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Ya.. Indians sure watch matches in the stadium. Not test matches. Just T20Is . Not even ODIs. Everyone would be doing some 9 to 5 job. They won't have time to watch Test match.
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Crowd shows that overseas Indians rate BGT very highly. There were lots of Indians living in Australia who came out in force.
That's all you can read from crowd and TV rights.
I don't mind what is bigger Ashes or BGT but it is up to Aussies to decide as they play both.
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I am not sure if we were watching the same series here, all I saw was india getting dominated by the ozzys where the Indian batsmen were made to look like school children playing against the big boys.
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The series went into the last match though. Doesn't happen when England tour Australia. England's record there for the last 3 Ashes is something ridiculous like 0-13 in 15 tests - they are just a shade better than Pakistan in that regard.
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Apart from Head and to some exten smith (who averaged 35) even Aussies were looking like school kids. They escaped from Bumrah in the final test mostly on the most difficult pitch. As far as India goes don't gloat lol Kohli , Rohit struggled against NZ as well. At this point they will struggle against anyt eam. Nitish Kumar reddy first class average 21. BGT average 37 which is more than Smith, Labu, Carey, Konstas, Khawaja, Sweeney, Mitch marsh
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I thought this Aussie basting lineup is amongst the weakest i have ever seen And because of that Ind would win. What i didn't factor in wax how poor Ind would bat and play generally
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Aus won the series but their long term future looks more shaky. Most of the current players are too old and their backup is very weak. They were celebrating scoops by a 19 year old but he will get found out quickly and they are giving debuts to bits and pieces players.
There doesn't seem to be any strong players waiting in reserve as they had in the past.
India has a steady pipeline of players and some of their new comers stepped up nicely here too. A clear out and a reset will make them strong again.
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closer games, in the last series England was down 2-0 after first two tests and pulled it back in last two, even the draw was entertaining watching Crawley break Cummins, this BGT outside of the first test Australia has been ridiculously dominant and outside of the 4th test, 2nd/3rd and 5th matches were whatever. in the 2023 ashes all the games bar 4th were close and cracking.
You use numbers, but I don't think they matter at all, there are more Indians than English, duh, doesn't mean their serieses are greater than ours.
Sorry this excuse doesn't work cause there are significantly more British-born residents in Australia (~960,000) compared to Indian-born residents (~846,000 as of 2023).
Tv ratings and active Crowd participation in a match is the the most important criteria to get an idea of which series is bigger. This isn't something we need to further debate about.
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So u r saying entire British and indian residents watch cricket alone.british born residents may be Polish,Nigerian , Korean, Chinese who don't have tondo anything with cricket. Even if it's British he may bother about football or rugby .But probability of Indians watching cricket will be more .parents and kids support will be completely different matter altogether .
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That thread was nearly hundreds of people replying. And the only angry ones were Indians.
Indians are just desperate to latch onto this since they have boycotted the Pakistan games
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What are you on about? You play India vs Ethiopia in Addis-Ababa the ground would be sold out with Indians. An Aussie literally 2 replies below yours echoed what I posted as well.
And this 'BGT'. India is so hungry for Western appreciation, I had not seen a single Aussie who ket calling it 'BGT', their series against India. Indians desperately want to make it like Ashes by giving it a moniker and then get butt hurt when Australians on forums say they dont give a hoot about India, only want England for Ashes. Pakistan also has series with names like this but noone uses them.
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It only went into the last Test due to the rain draw which saved India.
But aside from all this nonsense about Indians fans forcing 'BGT' > Ashes, India played well enough everytime in Australia going back 2 decades
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I agree with you, but they haven't boycotted anything.
Their hypocritically not coming to PK but still wish to play CT, to top it off their fans are still watching PK vs SA test so that they can latch onto something when Pakistan loses.
To top it off they throw around words like wannabee aussie to cope with the fact that their on a pakistani forumn and not an indian one.
Only one desperate are Australian who themselves are saying BGT is bigger than Ashes. Indians never mentioned BGT being bigger in the first place.
Border-Gavaskar Trophy: 'It Is Bigger Than The Ashes' Mark Waugh Makes An BOLD Comment News24 -
The BGT has been an entertaining series down under in the 21st century and has the same commercial value.
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How Australia v India became as big as the Ashes
In terms of both commercial and sporting impact, the Border-Gavaskar Trophy, which begins on Friday, has caught up with rivalry between England and Australia
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Stop acting like this comparison was started by Indians.
I must admit that the 'wannabe Aussie' comment towards you is confusing.
Are they accusing you of not being an Indigenous Australian (Aboriginal)? In that case, most of Australia then cannot be considered as 'Aussies'.
Or are they saying you are not an Australian citizen?
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I am talking about average fans. Not commies hired by channels for broadcasters who pay for the series. I am talking about the average Aussies.Only one desperate are Australian who themselves are saying BGT is bigger than Ashes. Indians never mentioned BGT being bigger in the first place.
Border-Gavaskar Trophy: 'It Is Bigger Than The Ashes' Mark Waugh Makes An BOLD Comment News24 -
The BGT has been an entertaining series down under in the 21st century and has the same commercial value.
How Australia v India became as big as the Ashes
In terms of both commercial and sporting impact, the Border-Gavaskar Trophy, which begins on Friday, has caught up with rivalry between England and Australia
Stop acting like this comparison was started by Indians.
But common sense is too common.
An Aussie in this thread literally said the same thing in the last page as me.
LOL this is such a weird post
. Now you got problem with Indians who are fond of using acronyms. You are overanalyzing behaviour and coming across as bitter. Also don't mistake Test Cricket crowd with limited overs crowd. Filling stadium in Test Cricket is always a challenge no matter who and where the cricket is being played.
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Their saying that although I live in aus, Because I equally support both teams, I'm not allowed to.I must admit that the 'wannabe Aussie' comment towards you is confusing.
Are they accusing you of not being an Indigenous Australian (Aboriginal)? In that case, most of Australia then cannot be considered as 'Aussies'.
Or are they saying you are not an Australian citizen?
I can only support Pakistan because at its core I'm pakistani by race.
However these numbskulls don't understand that countries like UK, Aus, USA are melting pots and not primarily indian/ pakiatani races like Pakistan and india are as nations.
But then again these people can't even spell indigenous so who cares. Their way too stupid to know the difference.
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@Ice Man lastly even if I wasn't, I can support whichever team I want. So it doesn't matter.
People support ronaldo but that doesn't mean they have to indigenous from Portugal. Losts of Portugal football fans
But Indians can't fanthom such a concept. It's beyond their education and understanding.
Maybe instead of being obsessed with Indians like a bitter Pakistani. Perhaps blame Australians instead who started this comparison. Tell them to stop comparing Ashes with BGT for no reason. There are dozens other series being played maybe ask them to advertise Pak-Australia series as much as BGT.
Ah ok, thanks for that, mate. I understand now.
I guess people don't realise that there is actually a decent portion of Australians themselves that were born and bred here and live here that actively support against the Australian cricket team as well. They want the cricket team to lose against any opposition. Yet, they are considered as proper, true blue Aussies as well.
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Their knowledge is based on what ex cricketers say, not based of what passionate fans who live in Australia claim.
Australia is a melting pot with so many nationalities and personalities. They aren't a one note hive mind. Their some fans who want their team to be on the top and their some fans who equally respect other teams and heck their some born and bred aussies who don't even watch cricket.
It's a land with varying personalities. But the issue here is that 90% of Indians in this forumn are all a collective hive mind.
Literally they all share the same opinions with the same rubbish personalities.
I had to convince myself that these guys are multiple people and not just one person who has created 80+ alts.
Bang on, mate. It's pretty normal here in Australia for all kinds of cultures to mix with each other. As an example, during the soccer world cup, you will be see Australians actively supporting the Socceroos and another country based on their ethnic background at the same time. Its all pretty normal behaviour.
Anyway, thread is being derailed so I guess we should get back on topic..
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It's been a quasi-fun series but only because of Bumrah. India's batting has been an absolute embarrassment.
The English will get slaughtered down under next summer.
The English will get slaughtered down under next summer.
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this series didn't live up the hype the Indians created
ashes is ashes, at best BGT is a knock off copy of ashes
ashes is ashes, at best BGT is a knock off copy of ashes
This is not entirely true.... people dont just turn up to grounds unless the cricket is competitive ... which it most certainly was throughout the series. While the scoreline says 3-1 it was hardly the case and until Bumrah got injured 2-2 was were it was headed towards.
What do you mean there are more Indians than English in Aus? Even if that is true , but since you are claiming that the Ashes is the one that the Aussies really Crave for what stops the Aussies from filling the grounds in Australia during Ashes? You cant just say since the tiny English grounds are full that its good enough to declare that Ashes > BGT.
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Since when did Mark waugh become Indian fan? lol More than Indians claiming you trying to desperately prove Ashes > BGT . Are you jealous this series is getting massive international attention. Even in SA vs Pak series they were discussing about it lol. It's okay to feel grumpy about it I understand. It is quiet normal.
“India-Australia Test series has taken over and it is bigger than the Ashes” - Mark Waugh
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The 3-1 result will never tell how much Bhumrah tortured Australia
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The ending was tame. They had a stand in captain for the stand in captain. That would never happen in Ashes.
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Same can be said of how Boland Tortured Indian line up in 3 tests. And to a lesser extent how Cummins Tortured india with his all round skill.
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Yup it was such a shame. Biggest influence for India was missing nearly the entire match. He left with 5 down. Never came back. India affected in multiple ways. He would be talking to bowlers as well about line and length. Without him India missed that services too not just his bowling. With low target to defend Noobs like Prasidh started going for pole hunting ended up serving juicy half vollies on that hit the deck pitch.
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No it wasn't, 160 wasn't a defendable total, be it Bumrah or Marshall. Now, first thing first people buy tickets before the game so competitiveness is not the factor and second thing, the first test was great but Australia easily won the second, third was a obvious draw and fourth was once again, a decisive Australian victory, and the fifth was against a decisive Australia victory albeit Bumrah's injury played a factor.
The grounds are always filled in English ashes serieses, the Australian ones are almost written off as massacres in favour of Australia and thus aren't so attended, I did concede BGT is a better series than the Australian ashes, not the English one.
Thats not entirely true that people buy tickets before the game .... if so what stops aussies from filling up the grounds considering how people are trying to pretend that Ashes is the next best thing to sliced bread. Doesn't make any sense.
Also not true is your take on the last 2 tests. India had very good chances of winning both MCG and SCG Tests. This is why it is actually important to watch the matches. Each session was a proper highly competitive contest. This is the main reason why many ground records were broken which Ashes can only dream of.
The puny English grounds don't count for anything. The BGT as a whole is far better than the Ashes as a whole. You have no idea how the BGT in India is soo popular.
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? The grounds are decent enough, again, there's no English presence for Australian Ashes because it's not competitive, the indian presence is what filled the grounds for BGT
at no point did India have a real shot at Brisbane, Melbourne or Adeliade, it was always "does Australia win or does India manage a draw", that's not competitive.
sounds kinda weird to say the grounds don't count.
Ashes is simply the ultimate goal of English and Australian cricket, as long as Australia has ashes they're content, that's just how things are
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I really dislike Indians use of acronyms, they over do it. Its super annoying.LOL this is such a weird post
Also don't mistake Test Cricket crowd with limited overs crowd. Filling stadium in Test Cricket is always a challenge no matter who and where the cricket is being played.
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I would call Australia-India series as bigger than Ashes because my indians friends seem very invested in this debate.
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They were discussing SA-Pak series during India-Aus series as well…
Stop sounding so desperate.
Ashes is the more historical rivalry. But startiing from 2000 no other series has provided as high quality cricket as BGY. 2001.2003-4, 2004-2005, 2007-2008, 2016-2017, 2018-2019, 2021, 2023 all high quality closely fought series. 2011 and 2014 were the only two dud series.
There is no shortage of expat English community in Aus + NZ. If the matches were competitive and it really meant something perhaps it would attract the english crowds.
Not true at all MCG Aus 2nd inngs at 91/6 and Bumrah on rampage India had a real good chance of winning that Test had Jaiswal not dropped a easy catch of Marnus. Even then starting the last session on D5 with just 3 wkts down the consensus was for a Draw. The fact that Aus did not declare overnight on D4 with the lead well in excess of 300 in itself tells you how unsure Aus was of forcing a win. As I said scorecards will not tell you all of this. Need to watch the game. Ditto with SCG where we would most certainly have pushed Aus to the edge if not for Bumrah's injury. So the matches were absolutely riveting and it was a case of each side fighting back. The ebbs and flows of Test Cricket were on full display
Because the scale is different when you compare to large Indian and Aussie grounds to the English grounds which are tiny in comparison .... this is like comparing a full bath tub to a olympic sized swimming pool lol
Not based on crowds and following. Doesnt put bums on the chairs in Aus despite more than centuries worth of head start over BGT.
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Not really. lol
The majority of English expats will have little interest in cricket regardless.
Well lets say thats true for the sake of discussion... whose problem is it that the Ashes does not even appeal to the citizens of the founding nation of Ashes lol ? Thanks for making my point in the most spectacular way.
No ones, the fact that cricket has managed to maintain it's position as the 2nd biggest sport in a country that is competitive in so many global sports is a pretty resounding success, football will always naturally be the largest sport however.
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2013 too where the great born winners and God breed were blanked 4-0 .on top of it home work saga
So maybe the Ashes rivalry does not have the power to even lift the stature of English Cricket which lags behind quite frankly much lesser sports in comparison to cricket ? No matter how you look at it Ashes comes out as not having enough captivating power to even attract the attention of its own citizens by showcasing the beauty of Test Cricket. Therefore this discussion of Ashes vs BGT is a non-starter.
Yeah meant the 2013 series in India and not the 2014 series in Australia as a dud one.2013 too where the great born winners and God breed were blanked 4-0 .on top of it home work saga
It literally sells out stadiums in the country months/nearly a whole year in advance, it's got plenty of captivating power, it's just never going to match football which is just too dominant a sport in the country to ever be matched by anything.
Nowhere compared to the massive captivating power of the BGT which can sellout much much larger stadiums in Aus which also BTW is not a Cricket first country
Thats the thing ... Test Cricket is a far superior sport and yet it cannot compete with football which suggests that the English team has been pathetic for decades and that they play a very boring brand of cricket played by even more boring cricketers. Once they fix that ( Bazball has a decent chance of doing that ) then perhaps the Ashes rivalry can attract more people to the grounds in Aus and maybe incentivize ECB to invest in bigger stadiums.
Its laughable that England has these puny excuses that pass off as stadiums despite nearly 150 yrs of Test Cricket.
test cricket is nowhere near the sport that football is. no sport is anywhere near football
respectfully disagree. The kinds of drama thats possible in Test Cricket is simply unmatched .... thats like comparing Junk food ( which is football ) to a proper 7 Course fancy dinner which is Test Cricket. No comparisons whatsoever.
Australia is for all intents and purposes a cricket first country during the cricketing summer, there's no competition. How did that captivating power of the trophy do in the 2023 edition in India, even with the 10s of thousands of free tickets dished out?
This is quite clearly completely subjective and down to personal preference and opinion.
20-30k capacity grounds are fine given the size of the country, much better to be playing every international game in front of packed out crowds rather than the majority of games in an sparsely populated soulless bowl.
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But i must say Test cricket in Australia is more popular than Test cricket in India. During England series apart from Dharamsla crowd was not this big. Probably slightly higher crowd for BGT series.
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Nothing comes close to Motor racing when it comes to crowd attendance.
i don't think you watch football much, if you think so. Football appeals to a much wider population world wide. Even in India in states like West Bengal, Kerala, Manipur , Goa, Sikim football is more popular than cricket. That's despite India's status in football being laughworthy. That's the appeal of football, even in countries which are not great in football football is a huge sport, all other sports are only popular in countries which are good at it.
I do watch only the high profile games in WC but it is nowhere close to the drama that Test Cricket can provide .... yes I know its the most popular sport in the world but anyone who truly understands the beauty of Test Cricket and the endless possibilities that it can provide will not pick Football over cricket. There is no comparison whatsoever.
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This thread is not for discussing football or cricket—please stick to the topic.
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For Indians? Sure, it might seem that way. But has anyone asked Australians? Do they also believe that the Border-Gavaskar Trophy is bigger than the Ashes? After all, they are the ones involved in these two rivalries. It feels like a one-sided, manufactured comparison. India vs Pakistan, on the other hand, is undeniably a much bigger and more global rivalry than India vs Australia.
Don’t fall for what these new-age fans, like @uppercut, claim. In India, no one loses sleep over India vs Australia matches, but when it’s India vs Pakistan, it’s no less than a war.
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Australia’s successful pursuit of the NRMA Insurance Border-Gavaskar Trophy created landmark attendance and viewership figures as cricket dominated the national conversation throughout the five-Test series
A total of 837,879 people attended the series, the fourth most for any Test series in Australia and the highest for any non-Ashes series with records tumbling at venues across the country.
West Test, Perth Stadium: Record daily attendance for any Test in Perth of 32,368 on Day 2, the second greatest total attendance for any Perth Test of 96,463, and the greatest total attendance for any Test against India.
Adelaide D/N Test, Adelaide Oval: A record single-day attendance for a Test against India with 51,642 on Day 2 and the largest attendance for a Test against India at Adelaide Oval of 135,012 set in just three days.
Brisbane Test, Gabba: Day 2 attendance of 34,227 was the largest for a Test against India in Brisbane, and the total of 91,195 was the greatest for any Test against India.
Boxing Day Test, MCG: The total attendance of 373,691 was a record for any Test match in Australia, surpassing the 350,534 who saw Don Bradman’s Australia defeat England in a six-day Test in 1937. The 74,362 final day attendance was a record Day 5 crowd for any Test in Australia.
New Year’s Test, SCG: The three largest daily attendances for a Test against India in Sydney, with the new single-day record of 47,998 set on Day 1.
The series attracted the largest-ever television audiences for a Border-Gavaskar Trophy, and the largest audience for a Test series since Seven and Fox Sports assumed the broadcast rights in 2018/19.
Across Australia, at least eight sessions averaged more than 2 million viewers, with 40 sessions averaging more than 1 million viewers.
Viewers in India watching on JioStar also set records, with viewership up significantly compared to the last Border-Gavaskar series played in Australia.
The global interest in the series was evident with more than two billion video views and 168 million engagements across Cricket Australia's social media channels since November 22, an increase of 205% and 150% year-on-year, respectively. Cricket Australia’s channels attracted two million new followers in the same period.
More than 4.9 million Australian users generated 42.9 million sessions across Cricket Australia’s platforms throughout the series.
Video consumption on web and apps also increased significantly with 39 million views – an increase of 338% year-on-year.
Nick Hockley, CA Chief Executive, said:
“Congratulations to the Australian and Indian teams on producing one of the most fiercely contested and captivating Test series in Australian cricket history and to Pat Cummins and his team on winning the Border-Gavaskar Trophy for the first time in ten years.
“We knew this would be an extraordinary series, but the size of the crowds, viewing audiences, and the digital engagement across all CA channels has exceeded our highest expectations.
“This series produced lifetime memories for the fans watching in packed stadiums or on their televisions and devices, brought our communities together, and underlined the place of Test cricket as the pinnacle format.
“Thank you to everyone who has been part of this special time in Australian cricket.”
A total of 837,879 people attended the series, the fourth most for any Test series in Australia and the highest for any non-Ashes series with records tumbling at venues across the country.
West Test, Perth Stadium: Record daily attendance for any Test in Perth of 32,368 on Day 2, the second greatest total attendance for any Perth Test of 96,463, and the greatest total attendance for any Test against India.
Adelaide D/N Test, Adelaide Oval: A record single-day attendance for a Test against India with 51,642 on Day 2 and the largest attendance for a Test against India at Adelaide Oval of 135,012 set in just three days.
Brisbane Test, Gabba: Day 2 attendance of 34,227 was the largest for a Test against India in Brisbane, and the total of 91,195 was the greatest for any Test against India.
Boxing Day Test, MCG: The total attendance of 373,691 was a record for any Test match in Australia, surpassing the 350,534 who saw Don Bradman’s Australia defeat England in a six-day Test in 1937. The 74,362 final day attendance was a record Day 5 crowd for any Test in Australia.
New Year’s Test, SCG: The three largest daily attendances for a Test against India in Sydney, with the new single-day record of 47,998 set on Day 1.
The series attracted the largest-ever television audiences for a Border-Gavaskar Trophy, and the largest audience for a Test series since Seven and Fox Sports assumed the broadcast rights in 2018/19.
Across Australia, at least eight sessions averaged more than 2 million viewers, with 40 sessions averaging more than 1 million viewers.
Viewers in India watching on JioStar also set records, with viewership up significantly compared to the last Border-Gavaskar series played in Australia.
The global interest in the series was evident with more than two billion video views and 168 million engagements across Cricket Australia's social media channels since November 22, an increase of 205% and 150% year-on-year, respectively. Cricket Australia’s channels attracted two million new followers in the same period.
More than 4.9 million Australian users generated 42.9 million sessions across Cricket Australia’s platforms throughout the series.
Video consumption on web and apps also increased significantly with 39 million views – an increase of 338% year-on-year.
Nick Hockley, CA Chief Executive, said:
“Congratulations to the Australian and Indian teams on producing one of the most fiercely contested and captivating Test series in Australian cricket history and to Pat Cummins and his team on winning the Border-Gavaskar Trophy for the first time in ten years.
“We knew this would be an extraordinary series, but the size of the crowds, viewing audiences, and the digital engagement across all CA channels has exceeded our highest expectations.
“This series produced lifetime memories for the fans watching in packed stadiums or on their televisions and devices, brought our communities together, and underlined the place of Test cricket as the pinnacle format.
“Thank you to everyone who has been part of this special time in Australian cricket.”
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Wow India is break all the records
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Agree. Even though we are on the losing side i have to say one of the most enthralling series i have witnessed. Wish INdia could have been proactive. Good learning lesson for all the first timers Jaiswal, Reddy, Rana, Akash, Prasidh. If anything experienced players were the ones who let down India badly. Kohli, Rohit, Gill, Rahul, Pant (barring SCG test). Jadeja. Experience is a curse. Anytime we play noob team we do much better.
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I want to ask once again what is this BGT. Where did this bgt come from. Nobody cares about this bgt.
No one will lose their sleep over this bgt thing.
It's just insignificant piece of garbage.
No one will lose their sleep over this bgt thing.
It's just insignificant piece of garbage.
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I already told you the Australian ashes is not as good as the English one or the BGT in term of Cricketting quality, You're merely commiting what is called a non-sequitor fallacy by repeatedly addressing a point never made
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this is the fallacy being commited here.
and Yes, there are English people in Australia, but cricket in England isn't as popular as in India and the Australian ashes is once again, not competitive.
It can be called closed at 96-6, after that it was not close at all when a 250+ target was presented as that had literally not been chased at Melbourne since 1929 Ashes, and now further on adding that the SCG test stopped being competitive very early too, comparing this BGT to the 2023 Ashes is a direct insult to the 2023 Ashes which was one of the greatest serieses ever played in this sport, since 2021 BGT might be a competitor but this wasn't.
and once again, it's a full display of you just being ignorant toward the Ashes, here's a fact, BGT is relevant when India is strong and irrelevant when India isn't, it's no different than the Frank Worrell trophy, or the Wisden trophy, or the SA vs Aus series of 2010s, it's just Something that is relevant because the teams are the two best in the world, the moment we return to the status quo of Australia winning the Australian BGT and India the Indian one, it won't even be compareable to the Ashes.
Ashes has cultural relevance which made it relevant even when England were no match for Australia or vice versa.
The rose bowl is huge, and yeah the Australian stadiums are bigger than the English ones but the 2017 ashes was huge anyways
Crowds set to top 2 million during Australian summer
Massive crowds due to the expected success of the Ashes series and the limited-overs matches that follow combines with the continuing growth of the Twenty20 Big Bash League
and that's for a non competitive series, lol.
You wanna discuss lifetime? because 36-37 is still the biggest series ever despite being in a time when there were literally less people
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and again, 2021 ashes was just as big as the BGT that year despite being a slaughter.
Ignoring the obvious xenophobic undertone of this comment, you wanna talk about pathetic? what's pathetic is asian cricketers feeling the need to develope entire fircle circles and racketts to fatten their pockets selling all the integrity of the sport in a moment, now that is what I'd call pathetic.
now, ignoring the fact you obviously don't know what Football is, I'm just gonna educate you a bit on this, Cricket in England is and always has been the aristocrat's game, as a game you need dozens of people, tons of equipment and so forth to even play Cricket properly with huge investment from local perspective while football is way more accessible to everyone and way more "quick fun", it's not difficult to see why football is #1 and Cricket #2 all over the world bar south east Asia.
lol, and guess what people eat more between Junk food and 5 star 7 course fancy dinners.
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We Indians do care a lot and Aussie care too. It is not garbage or insignificant. It is global tournament for true fans.
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Ashes by far, only indians would disagree
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Ashes is not that competitive anymore... BGT is more balanced
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This BGT has been record breaking. Ashes might have a long history but BGT is more famous ATM especially because of huge number of Indian Fans.
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Was watching Bumrah's all wickets on Youtube (by CA Channel). What a foolish thing it was for Rohit to come & destroy the initial surge India took. At least he should not have captained (even if he played as a batsman), Bumrah should have continued to captain the series... It would have given the right momentum, right bowling rotation, right field placements and more importantly the right management of Bumrah himself! Indians would never forgive Rohit for this (a chance for beating Australia thrice in a row at their home, that would have been phenomenal) and his paltry achievement of winning us a T20 world cup wouldn't withstand...
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Rohit as a batsman alone will not make in to any format
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Surely gambhir and the coaching set up are more to blame than Rohit.
Yeah in the sense that's right... Especially after the win in the 1st test they should have at least retained Bumrah as the captain. We all were more worried about Rohit's return after 1st match, more than relishing the win in the 1st match, isn't it. And it came right!
Even if Rohit was selected as batsman (middle-order in particular, yes they didn't open with him in the 2nd test), it would not have affected the team much... Even in 1st test, Padikkal & Jurel didn't contribute much. But captaincy and man management skills can negate any shortcomings... I think they handed over captaincy to Rohit Sharma based on T20 WC Triumph! Heck they didn't understand that Rohit Sharma was never a full-term captain in Test Matches before (not even a player - he had both fitness & technique issues)... At least they should have removed his captaincy after the home whitewash against NZ.
Rohit was there (as a bastman) even in the last Australia tour which India won. He was On/Off as a batsman even in that series, but it didn't impacted that much on the team's prospects... I think Rohit even in this series would have played a decent 50-60 runs innings in one of the matches if he was not burdened with captaincy...
This series will haunt true Indian Cricket fans for quite some time (just like 2003-04 one). That time umpiring and this time Rohit (or his selection)... But one has to admit that India has been quite a good touring side to Australia most times...
I was talking about the lesser damage!
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India have done very well in the past in Aus.
Even this series was technically alive until the last day. It wasn't a great result but it isn't the end of the world either. A few changes and they will be strong again whereas Aus doesn't have much back up talent.
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Than BGT>Ashes
Because in a decade if 4 ashes happens than 2 will be in Eng and 2 in Aus, people will enjoy Eng one.But if 4 BGT happens than 2 will be in Aus and 2 in Ind, people will enjoy both more Aus one more
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How many of those were indians?
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It's going to be, it obvious. Indians have a Hugh population compared to England where cricket isn't even a main sport.
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Not sure why it matters? Not the first time India plays Australia. It is better than previous BGT.
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