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Which side will win the India v Pakistan Super 4 clash in the Asia Cup on 4 September?

Which side will win the India v Pakistan Super 4 clash in the Asia Cup on 4 September?

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I just hope our batting doesn't make Arshdeep and Avesh look to be better bowlers than they actually are.
 
If it is not a must win game, Pakistan will win.

Then India will win in finals vs Pakistan.
 
JaDed said:
:))) i just hope we don’t play him
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Pandya remains key for India's success once again :inti

If Pakistan can go past the sheer brilliance of Pandya, they will roll over us by 70-74 runs. :inti
 
Jadeja seems to be out of the tournament. Big blow for India.

I hope India plays an allrounder and not a dud bowler. Avesh Khan must be dropped immediately.

Pakistan smashed HK while India just had a normal win. Pakistan has the momentum. When they get red hot, they are a demolishing machine.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
India will win.
Also if KL Rahul is replaced with Pant then this won't be close.
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Bhai, how come your confidence remains at the topmost level? Or you simply post this irrespective of what will happen on the match day?
 
Rohit
Kohli
SKY
Pant
KLR
Pandya
Axar

Bowlers - Bhuvi, Arshdeep, Chahal and Ashwin.

Since we have Axar for final overs hitting, we don't need DK now. Axar is a good hitter down the order.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Jadeja seems to be out of the tournament. Big blow for India.

I hope India plays an allrounder and not a dud bowler. Avesh Khan must be dropped immediately.

Pakistan smashed HK while India just had a normal win. Pakistan has the momentum. When they get red hot, they are a demolishing machine.
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Big blow? This is actually good news for those fans who wanted him out of the team. According to them India will be pretty strong without Jadeja. :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
Pandya remains key for India's success once again :inti

If Pakistan can go past the sheer brilliance of Pandya, they will roll over us by 70-74 runs. :inti
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Are you expecting him to play well everytime?
 
I really think we should go with Bishnoi and definitely not Ashwin.
 
Need to get rid if Pandya early and Dinesh too. A thrashing is always on the cards from India
 
Irrespective of everything exciting time hopefully The game lives upto the hype.
 
Ab Fan said:
If it is not a must win game, Pakistan will win.

Then India will win in finals vs Pakistan.
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Can anyone answer if it is a must win game for both sides as I haven't checked the super 4 fixtures? :inti
 
Hope we smash India and in the final too and then in the WC too. A man can wish. :sree
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
He doesn't have enough bats left to gift either. :inti
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HK gifted their jersey to Kohli other day.. but with nice words they were inspired by him.

I laughed a little inside thinking it was due to his slow innings against them.
 
Whatever could have gone wrong went wrong with Pakistan last Sunday - losing the toss, losing Babar and Rizwan at the wrong time, the quicks got cramps at the critical stage of the game, and an error in the strategy. India, despite a win, didn't bat to their potential.

Pakistan’s weakness - weak middle order, which puts pressure on the top order.
India’s weakness - vulnerable top order and ordinary bowling(probably weakest among the top four).
Also, India’s captain talked about changing mindset and template in t20, i.e., taking more risks in the power play. So you’d think they’d have an opener who they don't mind losing early and can take risks. A conservative player like Rahul, who didn't play for the last three months, certainly doesn’t fit the bill.

On Sunday, the team that can cover their weakness better than the opponent will be victorious. But the match begins from 50-50(no clear favorites).
 
Ab Fan said:
Rohit
Kohli
SKY
Pant
KLR
Pandya
Axar

Bowlers - Bhuvi, Arshdeep, Chahal and Ashwin.

Since we have Axar for final overs hitting, we don't need DK now. Axar is a good hitter down the order.
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Drop kl, play hooda. Avesh should never play for India again.
 
Ab Fan said:
Rohit
Kohli
SKY
Pant
KLR
Pandya
Axar

Bowlers - Bhuvi, Arshdeep, Chahal and Ashwin.

Since we have Axar for final overs hitting, we don't need DK now. Axar is a good hitter down the order.
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No way India will drop Avesh for a spinner that too Ashwin. Avesh may be crap but we need his short balls against Pak batsmen.
 
Dingolfy said:
No way India will drop Avesh for a spinner that too Ashwin. Avesh may be crap but we need his short balls against Pak batsmen.
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They have Brar on the bench? He can’t be any worse
 
I don’t like the prospect of having to face Axar Patel. He is major bowling upgrade to Jadeja, also a very useful lower order batsman
 
Pakistan bowling lineup is scary. India has washed up oldies at the top. Inconsistent middle order. Trundlers.
 
Dingolfy said:
No way India will drop Avesh for a spinner that too Ashwin. Avesh may be crap but we need his short balls against Pak batsmen.
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Avesh is trash. He has some strong connections in BCCI as only that can explain his selection in the team. He went for 53 runs against Hongkong who only scored 38 against Pakistan.

Pandya should come in place of Avesh and bowl his 4 overs. He cannot be worse than Avesh. India needs a lot of batting deapth against Pakistan. Only then they will be able to play freely and post a big score.
 
Rana said:
They have Brar on the bench? He can’t be any worse
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Bhuvi,Arshdeep and Avesh are only pacers in squad. And Pakistan always play our spinners well and Fakhar almost ended Ashwin’s LOI career in 2017 CT.
Avesh Khan has the height and his effort ball goes up beyond 140kph. I would say that’s enough for Pak middle-order.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Avesh is trash. He has some strong connections in BCCI as only that can explain his selection in the team. He went for 53 runs against Hongkong who only scored 38 against Pakistan.

Pandya should come in place of Avesh and bowl his 4 overs. He cannot be worse than Avesh. India needs a lot of batting deapth against Pakistan. Only then they will be able to play freely and post a big score.
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Ashwin’s batting skills have deteriorated and he was never T20 bat even in his good days. Avesh is in the team for his height and his short-of-length bowling. We should play horses for courses
 
Ab Fan said:
Can anyone answer if it is a must win game for both sides as I haven't checked the super 4 fixtures? :inti
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It's not a must-win game. The loser can (and probably will) get to the finals assuming they beat Afg and SL.
 
Pakistan's bowling is in irrerestible form. For us to win, we need to be atleast 45/0 at the end of the Powerplay but Naseem is an issue. Even bigger issue is the inability to attack shadab. Unless Pant can slog sweep the crap outta him, that's another issue.

I'm only confident of us bashing Pakistan's death bowling because they aren't that good at that.

In conclusion, unless we get PAK batting out for a below par score, we don't have a chance
 
As a Pakistan fan I think the most important wickets are those of HP and SKY. Both are game changers. How time change. Kohli and Sharma not that threatning any more.
 
Dingolfy said:
Ashwin’s batting skills have deteriorated and he was never T20 bat even in his good days. Avesh is in the team for his height and his short-of-length bowling. We should play horses for courses
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Avesh is not suited anywhere with his trash bowling. Short and wide is his bread and butter.

I am not saying Ashwin should come in. But if I have to choose, I choose Ashwin over Avesh. But Ideally I would bring in Axar. He can bowl economically and can hit a few big blows if it is his day.
 
IAJ said:
As a Pakistan fan I think the most important wickets are those of HP and SKY. Both are game changers. How time change. Kohli and Sharma not that threatning any more.
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Rohit is just old and fat. He is on his last legs. I have followed him during last IPL and he was utter failure. Terrible to say the least. But he gets into the team as he is a senior and past reputation.
Kohli always struggles to accelerate. He does not have the array of shots to take control of the game. he is a 100-105 S/R player. On a good day he can go up to 130.
 
IAJ said:
As a Pakistan fan I think the most important wickets are those of HP and SKY. Both are game changers. How time change. Kohli and Sharma not that threatning any more.
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If Sharma manages 40 balls he will be dangerous as well, if Kohli plays 50 balls I’m almost sure we will lose the game, if Rahul plays the match and plays 30 balls i’ll switch it off.
 
Ab Fan said:
Bhai, how come your confidence remains at the topmost level? Or you simply post this irrespective of what will happen on the match day?
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I don't believe in jinx and all.

It's quite apparent that Indian batting is way better than Pakistan. We won the last match without contributions from top order+SKy and they won't fail every time.

Pakistan can only win if they win the toss and restrict us to 160, the probability of that happening is low.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I don't believe in jinx and all.

It's quite apparent that Indian batting is way better than Pakistan. We won the last match without contributions from top order+SKy and they won't fail every time.

Pakistan can only win if they win the toss and restrict us to 160, the probability of that happening is low.
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They literally failed against HK
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I don't believe in jinx and all.

It's quite apparent that Indian batting is way better than Pakistan. We won the last match without contributions from top order+SKy and they won't fail every time.

Pakistan can only win if they win the toss and restrict us to 160, the probability of that happening is low.
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In T20 technique means zilch. experience means zilch. In T20 form is the most vital factor. You cannot have players struggling to find their form. Every single player on the park should be in form. They don't have to be repuated players.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I don't believe in jinx and all.

It's quite apparent that Indian batting is way better than Pakistan. We won the last match without contributions from top order+SKy and they won't fail every time.

Pakistan can only win if they win the toss and restrict us to 160, the probability of that happening is low.
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There is a thin line between confidence and overconfidence. Even though Pakistan is missing their premier bowler Shaheen Shah and their batting is weak, they can still surprise India. Always keep your feet on the ground especially when it comes to Ind vs Pak matches. :inti
 
Pak will win it if we get off to a good start. That is the thing that with Pak there are more if's and but's then there are with India. This is why India start as slight favourites again. Will the losing side be eliminated from the tournament?
 
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ACC have messed up big time with the scheduling by making India and Pakistan play each other first in the super 4.

Now the losing team will be under severe pressure against battle hardened Sri Lanka and the dangerous Afghans , knowing one loss will throw them out of the tournament. Yeah I don't think we're going to see an India vs Pakistan final... again.
 
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I would be very dissapointed if india manage to defend a total against pakistan with that bowling attack if they lose the toss. Pakistan should win if they chase.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I don't believe in jinx and all.

It's quite apparent that Indian batting is way better than Pakistan. We won the last match without contributions from top order+SKy and they won't fail every time.

Pakistan can only win if they win the toss and restrict us to 160, the probability of that happening is low.
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If anything, India needs the toss even more in Dubai if the last 2 games between the two sides are anything to go by.
 
If India win the toss, they are winning period.
If Pak win the toss, game becomes even stevens
 
Dingolfy said:
No way India will drop Avesh for a spinner that too Ashwin. Avesh may be crap but we need his short balls against Pak batsmen.
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At present, Avesh is doing nothing except for usual leaking for runs almost every game. His bowling average is 32 now. He needs to be dropped now. Ashwin will atleast be useful against the likes of Fakhar and Khushdil in the middle order, those two left handers can make things worse for Chahal and Jadeja hence we need an off spinner there.

It will be again Hardik Pandya whom we will rely on to be the enforcer in middle order with those short stuffs against technically inept Pakistan middle order.
 
India is still confused about their 4/5/6/7. They are settled with 3 past by sell dates up the order. Indian tail is terrible.
 
sweep_shot said:
Indian bowling is not superior this time. Pakistani bowling attack is better.

Indian batting is better though.
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Not really. Pakistan batting is way better in u.a.e conditions. Much superior.

Bowling is around the same level. Pakistan has more pace. India has more bounce if they select siraj.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
India is still confused about their 4/5/6/7. They are settled with 3 past by sell dates up the order. Indian tail is terrible.
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Exactly time and time again I have mentioned this. This india batting side is a joke in these conditions and in swing friendly conditions.

Rohit old
Kohli past sell date
Sky being a flatbtrack minnow bashing bully

Only good player is pandya

Had india chosen Gill, pant who himself is inconsistent, maybe samson and put KL in middle order then I can see india being equal or better than pakistan in batting. Currently not even close.

Bowling is around the same level if india pick siraj or tyagi back into the side.
 
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