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Which side will win the match between England and New Zealand at Chester-le-Street?

Which side will win the match between England and New Zealand at Chester-le-Street?

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If NZL loses to England and Pakistan wins against BD, both will end up with 11 points. But NZL has better NRR unless they lose to England badly, or if Pakistan able to beat BD with big margin, Pak will through to SF.
 
So much has been toss dependent this world cup. Hope the Kiwis win the toss, bat first and then high chance of Boult & Ferguson putting the English batting under pressure.
 
It’s upto NZ

Do they want to limp into the Semi finals in an absolute sorry state?
 
If the pitch is flat, then NZ don't really stand a chance. It needs to be a 250 kind of wicket for NZ to win.
 
In the match itself, it would feel like Kane Williamson, Martin Guptill, Ross Taylor, Trent Boult, Lockie Ferguson, e.t.c are all Pakistanis and we would jump in joy with each small success they get during the game. We need to back them, they are all quality players and this would be the ideal time for them to show their worth.

I hope NZ try Blundell instead of that badly out of from Latham. Also, I think Tim Southee demolished England last time these 2 teams met in a WC game with a breathtaking spell in which he took a 7fer, but they would have to drop Ish Sodhi for that.

Playing XI:

1) Martin Guptill
2) Henry Nicholls
3) Kane Williamson(C)
4) Ross Taylor
5) Tom Blundell(Wk)
6) Jimmy Neesham
7) Colin De Grandhomme
8) Mitchell Santner
9) Tim Southee
10) Lockie Ferguson
11) Trent Boult
 
I think NZ will win because I think that Pakistan-Bangladesh is destined to be a do-or-die match.
 
moghul said:
If NZL loses to England and Pakistan wins against BD, both will end up with 11 points. But NZL has better NRR unless they lose to England badly, or if Pakistan able to beat BD with big margin, Pak will through to SF.
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Wrong. NZ will be on 10 and Pakistan on 11.
 
England and NZ played an awesome series last year. I think England won it 3-2. It'll be a good game I reckon.
 
I really hope Bangladesh find a way to shock India on Tuesday (India will be playing a game on no rest). This will increase Bangladesh’s runrate. It will make sure NZ knows that if they lose and Bangladesh beats Pakistan they can knock NZ out on NRR. I think this can actually force NZ to take the game as a must win
 
New Zealand has better bowlers but if it’s played on a fresh pitch and England bats first they can bat the kiwis out.
 
By how many runs /wickets Pakistan needs to defeat Bangladesh to have a NRR above New Zealand's current NRR
 
Dagestani_Eagle said:
By how many runs /wickets Pakistan needs to defeat Bangladesh to have a NRR above New Zealand's current NRR
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That’s not in the realm of possibility unless NZ is thrashed by 200 runs or 30 overs to spare then maybe Pakistan can do same to Bangladesh

Short story that not happening
 
Savak said:
NZ has the better bowling attack. Batting is too dependent on Williamson and Taylor. Grandhoime and Neesham blow hot and cold, England desperately needs the win more than NZ so they will be up for it. This is good in the sense that it will make Pakistan even more determined to play hard against Bangladesh.
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This match will be before our match against Bangladesh which could end up being a dead rubber, some boys might be dejected and not play that hard.
 
Isn't this ground a low scoring one?

Also, people forget NZ made the finals the last world cup with this same core.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
In the match itself, it would feel like Kane Williamson, Martin Guptill, Ross Taylor, Trent Boult, Lockie Ferguson, e.t.c are all Pakistanis and we would jump in joy with each small success they get during the game. We need to back them, they are all quality players and this would be the ideal time for them to show their worth.

I hope NZ try Blundell instead of that badly out of from Latham. Also, I think Tim Southee demolished England last time these 2 teams met in a WC game with a breathtaking spell in which he took a 7fer, but they would have to drop Ish Sodhi for that.

Playing XI:

1) Martin Guptill
2) Henry Nicholls
3) Kane Williamson(C)
4) Ross Taylor
5) Tom Blundell(Wk)
6) Jimmy Neesham
7) Colin De Grandhomme
8) Mitchell Santner
9) Tim Southee
10) Lockie Ferguson
11) Trent Boult
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This team will give a tough time to england.Tom Blundell is an very aggressive player and a good batsman,he is an good replacement for latham.This kiwi tail is better than the poms and I hope the kiwi management plays this team against the poms
 
Welp. If England win, they would need to win by around 200 runs with Pakistan needing to inflict a similarly massive defeat on Bangladesh, if Pakistan are to go through. This means New Zealand have to win against England.
 
tell you what today wicket (WI vs SRL) is really flat but eng will have more pressure than NZ amd i see it a good game.
 
its the same ground with small boundaries , dont think nz is strong enough to beat england on this ground.
 
I'm expecting England to win. I'm already prepared for an elimination for Pakistan, so if Eng do win, I won't be upset for Pakistan, as I've already accepted we are out :(
 
NZ will win and then everything will depend on Pak vs Bangladesh game. If Bangladesh loses to India. Then it's over for them already. And who knows they too play bad deliberately to get Pak through. :D
 
I am totally rooting for NZ. Come on let us do it. I want this FTBs to be eliminated and their egos be put in place.
 
The team batting 2nd will as usual crapp there pants in a pressure game unless they get rolled over for 190

NZ best bet is win toss put 260 hope the sun bakes the pitch play santner & sohdi
 
England's losses were not in must win situations.
They did the job against India and I fully expect them to beat the Kiwis.

The Kiwis only have to ensure their NRR doesn't drop too much and they're through. Even a big defeat won't hurt them too much.

Best chance was for India to beat England.
 
Too close to call. England were massively improved against India but I think New Zealand will be a very tough opponent for us. I can see this being a close finish.
 
whoever wins the toss will win the game.
It's going to be a batting wicket, ECB will make sure of that lol

Oh well, Pak needs to beat Bangladesh and end the tournament on a high. They performed decently all things considered. Sweeping changes required post WC autopsy :inzi2
 
New Zealand never performes in big matches so England should win.
 
NZ big players have not scored in this tournament apart from Williamson.

Sri Lanka just managed to score 340 on the same ground these two will play..

Eng are probably smiling but pressure is pressure...
 
Majestic_Inzi said:
NZ big players have not scored in this tournament apart from Williamson.

Sri Lanka just managed to score 340 on the same ground these two will play..

Eng are probably smiling but pressure is pressure...
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Sri Lanka got that score against Windies.

NZ bowling is lot superior.
 
Let's keep our fingers crossed. Who knows which side of England turns up that day? May be England will be the New South Africa- i mean chokers.
 
NZ can definitelt beat England. I hope we see an over-confident England on Wednesday. Will be even more hilarous watching the meltdown.
 
Kiwis have lost last 2 games.... unlikely they will lose the third one :smith
 
NZ to win. Those who have plotted against PAK shall fail in the end.
 
India was the one team that could beat England at their best other than Australia.

NZ is overrated in this tournament. They will need a damp pitch like we had vs Aus, and bowl first to skittle England out for a low score.
 
Like someone mentioned before the organisers want the home team to atleast qualify for the semis.

I think the result of Eng-NZ match will be predetermined outside the field of play
 
England on a roll - expect them to steamroll New Zealand.
 
Lol posters calling England chokers. England problems has mostly been lack of quality in previous WCs.

But NZ are no better than according to PP standards. There issue has been lack of quality. But they have lost most pressure games. And most of the time it's been against better teams.

Hope NZ can win. But I will be shocked if they win.
 
Hasan123 said:
Lol posters calling England chokers. England problems has mostly been lack of quality in previous WCs.

But NZ are no better than according to PP standards. There issue has been lack of quality. But they have lost most pressure games. And most of the time it's been against better teams.

Hope NZ can win. But I will be shocked if they win.
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England was a very good team until 1992 and yet they failed to win a single world cup. They have played like 3 world cup finals and lost all of them. Lost a CT final and a world T20 final. If that's not choking then I do not know what else is.
 
The pitches of the last game on the pitch make no difference to the next game. Edgbaston was a dustbowl before England played there so I wouldn't be surprised if the Riverside isn't as flat as it was today when Sri Lanka batted.
 
More likely that England will win. I believe in momentum and England has it all. NZ is on the opposite end losing two games pretty convincingly (even though PAK saved it for the last over, we were in control from the 2nd over till the 99th over).
 
WC-Passion said:
The pitches of the last game on the pitch make no difference to the next game. Edgbaston was a dustbowl before England played there so I wouldn't be surprised if the Riverside isn't as flat as it was today when Sri Lanka batted.
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NZ can definitely win the game on a flat pitch too (Guptil could suddenly come alive) - but no matter what the pitch is, England just has more to play for. The only way NZ will be motivated to give an above-par performance is if Bangladesh beats India and forces NZ hand to not leave things to NRR
 
zulfiqar said:
NZ can definitely win the game on a flat pitch too (Guptil could suddenly come alive) - but no matter what the pitch is, England just has more to play for. The only way NZ will be motivated to give an above-par performance is if Bangladesh beats India and forces NZ hand to not leave things to NRR
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New Zealand will still want to win because they aren't "guaranteed" qualification yet and they would want to keep a good NRR. Also it would not be good for them to lose 3 on the trot going into the semis. There's lots of motivation.
 
hadi123 said:
I'm expecting England to win. I'm already prepared for an elimination for Pakistan, so if Eng do win, I won't be upset for Pakistan, as I've already accepted we are out :(
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Good you guys do not deserve to be in the semis anyway as this is reserved for the big boys of international cricket
 
RajHeeRaj said:
Good you guys do not deserve to be in the semis anyway as this is reserved for the big boys of international cricket
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Yes mr debutant so true just as you guys did not deserve to be in the semi finals of 1975,1979,1992,1999,2007 world cups, since those world cups were reserved for big bhoyzz.
 
The_Odd_One said:
England was a very good team until 1992 and yet they failed to win a single world cup. They have played like 3 world cup finals and lost all of them. Lost a CT final and a world T20 final. If that's not choking then I do not know what else is.
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They do have mentality issues. It's just not a reason they have failed at most WCs. For instance in the last 3 editions they were not good enough.
 
NZ will win this one. They are not supposed to lose three matches in rows- Pakistan, Australia, England.
 
RajHeeRaj said:
Good you guys do not deserve to be in the semis anyway as this is reserved for the big boys of international cricket
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The only big boys in current world cup is aus .So shred off your arrogance and pray your team don't play them in semis otherwise after pak flight to lahore immediately india will have to book there flight to new dehli
 
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saeed5646 said:
The only big boys in current world cup is aus .So shred off your arrogance and pray your team don't play them in semis otherwise after pak flight to lahore immediately india will have to book there flight to new dehli
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The same Aus team who we comfortably beat before? :rondu
 
Sarwar89 said:
Yes mr debutant so true just as you guys did not deserve to be in the semi finals of 1975,1979,1992,1999,2007 world cups, since those world cups were reserved for big bhoyzz.
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Boom! Got the debutant out for a golden duck I'd say. Good going :)
 
What would you give/sacrifice....

For NZ to beat England on Wednesday and bring the thing back into Pakistan hands.
I have already decided I will give £500 in charity if NZ win.

What would you give or sacrifice?
 
I'll give Zakaat regardless.
But I would really want pak to go to the semis though. INSHAALLAH they will.
 
saeed5646 said:
The only big boys in current world cup is aus .So shred off your arrogance and pray your team don't play them in semis otherwise after pak flight to lahore immediately india will have to book there flight to new dehli
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Same Australia who you said were ovverated?
 
I do feel new zealand is being extremely underestimated on the forum. They are fully capable of beating England, specially if Boult and Ferguson go on a roll with a decent score on the board. Southee's addition will make them stronger too. I am backing them but one of the top three besides Williamson needs to contribute.
 
New Zealand seems like a timid team against top oppositions like India, England and Australia.

I back England to win this easily.
 
In the last ODI series between Eng and Nzl, every game was won by the team batting second. This included the epic http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...ngland-4th-odi-eng-tour-of-aus-and-nz-2017-18 , where England made 330+ and still lost and that's when Guptil and Munro both got out for 0 in Nzl innings. Both teams were almost exactly same as the ones in this World Cup.

Come on Nzl, remember that game and thrash Eng, whether batting first or second!
 
the_game said:
I do feel new zealand is being extremely underestimated on the forum. They are fully capable of beating England, specially if Boult and Ferguson go on a roll with a decent score on the board. Southee's addition will make them stronger too. I am backing them but one of the top three besides Williamson needs to contribute.
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They are a 2 batsmen team. Can't see them winning unless it's a seaming wicket with clouds.
 
NA said:
In the last ODI series between Eng and Nzl, every game was won by the team batting second. This included the epic http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...ngland-4th-odi-eng-tour-of-aus-and-nz-2017-18 , where England made 330+ and still lost and that's when Guptil and Munro both got out for 0 in Nzl innings. Both teams were almost exactly same as the ones in this World Cup.

Come on Nzl, remember that game and thrash Eng, whether batting first or second!
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That was a freak knock by Taylor.
 
England on paper is the team that should win. New Zealand has few tricks up their sleeves however. A lot will depend on whether boult can take early English wickets, that will certainly put them under pressure in their search for a high total. The pitch will play a crucial role, we all know flat pitches favour england but a sporting pitch can make things even.
 
saeed5646 said:
The only big boys in current world cup is aus .So shred off your arrogance and pray your team don't play them in semis otherwise after pak flight to lahore immediately india will have to book there flight to new dehli
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All teams in this world cup have weaknesses. For Australia if you get top 3 early their middle order will collapse however no one in this world cup has been able to do that but I won’t be surprised if it happens in the coming matches. All it takes is a good bowling spell at the start of the innings and it can put them in a tough position. They aren’t the invincible team of the 90s however they are a very good team in today’s day and age.
 
Ozeirk said:
All teams in this world cup have weaknesses. For Australia if you get top 3 early their middle order will collapse however no one in this world cup has been able to do that but I won’t be surprised if it happens in the coming matches. All it takes is a good bowling spell at the start of the innings and it can put them in a tough position. They aren’t the invincible team of the 90s however they are a very good team in today’s day and age.
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Looks like you are not watching aus games closely .they have atleast 2 collapses in worldcup
5/92 vs nz which they won at end
5/79 vs w.i they won it

So saying that there middle order is not tested is wrong .they have been put in pressure more than once yet they succeed from that which is sign of quality side
 
saeed5646 said:
Yup i said aus top 4 are overrated and they have proven me wrong .But they are dangerous side in semis they can beat any side which i predicted well before worldcup and stating the same now.

Btw what happen to your "Dark horses" westindies seems like they will finished just above Afghanistan ����


Are you not done with "pak pathetic team "because you are most active person in Pakistan match thread
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I was wrong about the West Indies and I have been critical of them for their performance. They still beat Pakistan so what does that say about Pakistan and it wasnt even close.

I support the team. Always will. But I will be honest in my opinion rather than be positive for the sake of it. I have never said the words I will stop supporting Pakistan. When they play poorly I will say it. If you lose lots of games in a row of course you will call your team out.

Pakistan haven't won the WC even if they get to the semis. If they get through they will more than likely have India or Australia. So predicting winning the WC still looks stupid.

Nice that you follow my posts though.
 
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