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No hope. We will lose with this pathetic team.
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India face two new injury battles just over a month out from their ICC World Test Championship final meeting with Australia.
Key batter KL Rahul and pacer Jaydev Unadkat have sent scares through the national camp with hamstring and shoulder problems respectively, both while on IPL duty.
Left-arm quick Unadkat fell in a freak accident on Sunday, tripping on a wire in his follow through during a net session. The 31-year-old left training heavily strapped, and is a doubt to take part in the one-off World Test Championship final at The Oval from June 7.
The injury compounds India’s fast bowling fitness issues, with Jasprit Bumrah not named in the squad and targeting the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup campaign at the end of the year after recently undergoing back surgery. Unadkat is one of five bowlers named in the squad to take on Australia, though Shardul Thakur and Umesh Yadav are under fitness clouds of their own.
Rahul’s injury adds to injury woes on the batting side, and could force a change of philosophy for India come the final.
Already missing Shreyas Iyer and first-choice wicketkeeper-batter Rishabh Pant, Rahul limped off the field during Lucknow Super Giants’ match against Royal Challengers Bangalore, refusing to be stretchered off as he clutched his leg.
Rahane returns as India name World Test Championship Final squad
Should he not take part in the WTC final, Ajinkya Rahane would likely make his first Test appearance in over a year, with Shubman Gill to join skipper Rohit Sharma at the top of the order. Assuming Cheteshwar Pujara and Virat Kohli line up at No.3 and No.4, Rahane would slide in at No.5.
Meanwhile, final opponents Australia are seemingly on course to make their final push for the WTC mace with a clean bill of health.
Experienced pacer Josh Hazlewood made a successful return from an Achilles injury that has kept him out since the Sydney Test in January, taking 2/15 from three overs and helping Royal Challengers Bangalore defend their miserly 126.
India squad: Rohit Sharma (c), Shubman Gill, Cheteshwar Pujara, Virat Kohli, Ajinkya Rahane, K L Rahul, KS Bharat (wk), Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja, Axar Patel, Shardul Thakur, Mohammad Shami, Mohammed Siraj, Umesh Yadav, Jaydev Unadkat
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It hurts when you lose after reaching the finals.
But our selection committee doesn't give new guys any chance.
No hope. We will lose with this pathetic team.
It hurts when you lose after reaching the finals.
Easy win coming for Australia
What kind of supporter you guys are? Giving up on your team even before a ball being bowled?
The last test series Australia won over India was in 2014, when MSD was still our test captain. We have since beaten them twice in India and Australia. India has got mental edge over them.
I am very sure we will beat Australia in WTC finals too and lift the trophy. Just a bit of sunny Lords and game will be even more one sided towards India.
Rajdeep's prediction - India to lift WTC under Rohit Sharma
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My prediction:
India 68 all out, Jadeja 16*
Aus 334 all out, Green 92
India 183 all out, Rahane 79
Conclusion - India loses the WTC Final twice post which Rahane goes on to play 20 more tests and complete his 100 test landmark.
India will surely miss Rishabh Pant and Bumrah.![]()
India will surely miss Rishabh Pant and Bumrah.![]()
Yes but we still have bowling line up to win the WTC final but main worry is our batting line up.Rohit , Pujara, Kohli ,Rahul, Rahane all are playing on past reputation rather than performance . pant was only our hope along with Jadeja to contribute some impact full runs .
India will surely miss Rishabh Pant and Bumrah.![]()
Rohit
Gill
Pujara
Virat
Rahane
KL ( Wk)
Jadeja
Thakur
Umesh
Siraj
Shami
This should be our playing eleven from selected team
less than 2 weeks to go for WTC finals and our guys, media, mindset, psyche is still hooked onto the mickeymouse tel kangi IPL over who makes the playoffs, MSD entry into the ground, celebrity sightings and vk vs gg saas bahu tomfoolery.
Look at the number of Aus players already playing in the county scene, getting acclimatised and our guys will rock up straight from 35 degree heat and hopefully are not 15/5 in the first hour on the first day.
When it comes to foresight and forward planning, the cement heads at BCCI are experts to churn out the moolah but nothing to do to assist us in winning.
No succession plan in place when VK, Che pu, hitman, Ash, Shami, Jads, ishant, jinks etc all go out in one go - Where are the replacements?
Sitting ducks for the WTC finals - thanks to BCCI!
Australia legend Ricky Ponting has revealed Virat Kohli feels he ‘back to his absolute best’ and said his wicket would be the most prized by Australian players in the upcoming ICC World Test Championship 2023 Final.
Ponting was speaking at the official curtain raiser for the event in New Delhi on Friday (19 May) morning. The most successful men's Australian captain unveiled the Test Mace – the coveted trophy India and Australia are vying for – and then interacted with local academy kids and the media in an event organised by the ICC.
Ponting is set to head back home following Delhi Capitals' final game of IPL 2023 against Chennai Super Kings on Saturday. Still, he said he “can’t wait” to get to London shortly after that in his capacity as a commentator for the WTC23 Final.
Ravi Shastri selects his standout young players at the IPL on The ICC Review that could still feature at the 2023 ICC Men's Cricket World Cup.
The 48-year-old looked visibly excited about the prospect of watching high-quality Test cricket at The Oval from June 7, in particular the match-ups between some of the best in the business.
One of them being India No.4 Kohli. The 34-year-old has been irresistible since he found form – he scored his sixth IPL century against Sunrisers Hyderabad on Thursday – and Ponting believes that spells trouble for Australia.
“I caught up with Virat about a month ago when we played them in Bangalore,” said Ponting. “And I had a good chat to him about his batting and where he was at and his career. And he said to me then that he actually feels like he's almost back to his absolute best.
“You probably saw that last night, you know, he's had a very good IPL and I'm sure he'll be the prize wicket that all the Australians are looking are looking forward to.”
India will be missing some key players for The Ultimate Test – Rishabh Pant is a long-term absentee, KL Rahul was ruled out of the Final after sustaining an injury in the IPL, and Jasprit Bumrah is continuing his rehabilitation from a back problem.
That in mind, Ponting said the Final would revolve around the contest between India’s top order and Australia’s pace attack. “I think it'll be India's top order against Australia's fast bowling, It’s a bit of a mouth-watering thought going forward.
“Generally, we think about the battles between India's spinners and Australia's batters. But will that be negated by the wicket at The Oval? Normally the wickets that I've played on The Oval have started as really good batting wickets, and actually have offered a little bit to the spinners as the game's going on.
“That's what I'd like to see in this wicket – to have a really good contest on day four, day five, or maybe even day six, seeing how it's going.”
There’s been talk about how a significant portion of India’s WTC squad have been playing the IPL in the lead up to the Test, as opposed to just four from Australia, and how that would affect their preparations for the Test.
But Ponting believes there are advantages with both approaches. “There are two ways you can look at it,” he said. “For someone like Virat (Kohli) – is he better off playing now and scoring runs at a consistent basis, and have confidence going into a game? Rather than being the Australian guys that have been back home, haven't been playing much cricket, will be mentally better prepared, but haven't got the runs and cricket under their belt …
“Is Mohammad Shami going to be in a better (position) skill-wise than what Pat Cummins is? Cummins hasn't played any cricket for a few months now. It's a hard one. A lot of it comes down to the individual.
“The Indian players that are here playing in the IPL won't only be thinking about the IPL. They'll be on workload management stuff to make sure that they're right to bowl in a Test match in a couple of weeks’ time.
“There's two ways to look at it – I'm not sure there's a right or wrong. What the Australian players have done though, you know, with Steve Smith and (Marnus) Labuschange being in England there, getting used to the conditions the best they can – they're giving themselves the best chance. Michael Nesser and Sean Abbott are also over there, bowling, making sure they're ready in case there's an injury to any of the Australian fast bowlers.
“I don't think there's an advantage either way, to be honest. But I'm sure if you ask Virat what he'd rather be doing, he'd say he'd rather be scoring runs now. If you ask the fast bowlers they'd probably say that they'd probably prefer to have a couple of weeks rest. It works both ways.”
The ICC World Test Championship 2023 Final will be played at The Oval, starting June 7.
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India would be overwhelming favorites if Pant and Bumrah were there, but without them Australia are a bit more likely to win. But I don't think it will be anywhere near as one-sided as many here seem to think. Let's not forget that Australia have lost their last four test series against India.
Aus are gonna smash us by lunch on 3rd day.
Our over hyped IPl stars are going to rock up on the coming monday-tuesday-wednesday fresh off 35-40 deg indian summer and modelling for freakin paan masalas, gambling sites, fizzy sodas and other products that even their khandaaan are never going to use, into early summer england when the ball swings big and their IPL hit blink and giggle technicque and mindset is challenged.
To just make this a contest and this goes onto the 4 days, hopefully we select someone like umesh whose pace can push them ausssies onto the back foot.
Else if they select Jaydev legend wasim reid vaas davidson unadkat, it will one useless 130 kmph trundler after another on which several Aussies who are currently plying the County circuit read : smith, labus, harris, neser et all who are are in tune with the eng conditions will feast and gorge playing on auto pilot with their eyes shut
We will be toasted on ice.
I dont see our overhyped bats with the exception of che pu lasting and winning sessions for us.
End of the day, the IPL is a necessary evil. But it is also An elongated elephantine never ending saas bahu fufi chachi over hyped drama that is about 45 matches, 35 days and 3 teams too long that is endangering the game we love and cherish and defo not gonna helping us win this WTC finals.
The heathrow immigration officers entry stamp on our models turned cricketer's passports would not even be dry by the time when they face the music of cummins, starc, boland and co.
No pracitice games, no red ball cricket - Thanks BCCI - U rock...that is you guys are rock bottom!
& Lastly, we have no LH batsmen in the top order, its just a team of complete right handers - i.e ipl duds!
We have no succession planning when ishant, ash, jads, vk, che pu , jinks, shami, saha, etc go/retire very soon and our over confidence is going to cost us heaps.
But then when you have a cric board who priotizes top $$ over producing top quality cricketers, and a media and public who are fixated on IPL and MSD's entry into the stadium and 1000's of other useless nuances what can you expect?
... From a very disgruntled indian cricket fan who says the BCCI does not represent million of rational thinking indians...
Am happy to be proven wrong...Go India - WTC 2023 !
Aus are gonna smash us by lunch on 3rd day.
Our over hyped IPl stars are going to rock up on the coming monday-tuesday-wednesday fresh off 35-40 deg indian summer and modelling for freakin paan masalas, gambling sites, fizzy sodas and other products that even their khandaaan are never going to use, into early summer england when the ball swings big and their IPL hit blink and giggle technicque and mindset is challenged.
To just make this a contest and this goes onto the 4 days, hopefully we select someone like umesh whose pace can push them ausssies onto the back foot.
Else if they select Jaydev legend wasim reid vaas davidson unadkat, it will one useless 130 kmph trundler after another on which several Aussies who are currently plying the County circuit read : smith, labus, harris, neser et all who are are in tune with the eng conditions will feast and gorge playing on auto pilot with their eyes shut
We will be toasted on ice.
I dont see our overhyped bats with the exception of che pu lasting and winning sessions for us.
End of the day, the IPL is a necessary evil. But it is also An elongated elephantine never ending saas bahu fufi chachi over hyped drama that is about 45 matches, 35 days and 3 teams too long that is endangering the game we love and cherish and defo not gonna helping us win this WTC finals.
The heathrow immigration officers entry stamp on our models turned cricketer's passports would not even be dry by the time when they face the music of cummins, starc, boland and co.
No pracitice games, no red ball cricket - Thanks BCCI - U rock...that is you guys are rock bottom!
& Lastly, we have no LH batsmen in the top order, its just a team of complete right handers - i.e ipl duds!
We have no succession planning when ishant, ash, jads, vk, che pu , jinks, shami, saha, etc go/retire very soon and our over confidence is going to cost us heaps.
But then when you have a cric board who priotizes top $$ over producing top quality cricketers, and a media and public who are fixated on IPL and MSD's entry into the stadium and 1000's of other useless nuances what can you expect?
... From a very disgruntled indian cricket fan who says the BCCI does not represent million of rational thinking indians...
Am happy to be proven wrong...Go India - WTC 2023 !
Aus are gonna smash us by lunch on 3rd day.
Our over hyped IPl stars are going to rock up on the coming monday-tuesday-wednesday fresh off 35-40 deg indian summer and modelling for freakin paan masalas, gambling sites, fizzy sodas and other products that even their khandaaan are never going to use, into early summer england when the ball swings big and their IPL hit blink and giggle technicque and mindset is challenged.
To just make this a contest and this goes onto the 4 days, hopefully we select someone like umesh whose pace can push them ausssies onto the back foot.
Else if they select Jaydev legend wasim reid vaas davidson unadkat, it will one useless 130 kmph trundler after another on which several Aussies who are currently plying the County circuit read : smith, labus, harris, neser et all who are are in tune with the eng conditions will feast and gorge playing on auto pilot with their eyes shut
We will be toasted on ice.
I dont see our overhyped bats with the exception of che pu lasting and winning sessions for us.
End of the day, the IPL is a necessary evil. But it is also An elongated elephantine never ending saas bahu fufi chachi over hyped drama that is about 45 matches, 35 days and 3 teams too long that is endangering the game we love and cherish and defo not gonna helping us win this WTC finals.
The heathrow immigration officers entry stamp on our models turned cricketer's passports would not even be dry by the time when they face the music of cummins, starc, boland and co.
No pracitice games, no red ball cricket - Thanks BCCI - U rock...that is you guys are rock bottom!
& Lastly, we have no LH batsmen in the top order, its just a team of complete right handers - i.e ipl duds!
We have no succession planning when ishant, ash, jads, vk, che pu , jinks, shami, saha, etc go/retire very soon and our over confidence is going to cost us heaps.
But then when you have a cric board who priotizes top $$ over producing top quality cricketers, and a media and public who are fixated on IPL and MSD's entry into the stadium and 1000's of other useless nuances what can you expect?
... From a very disgruntled indian cricket fan who says the BCCI does not represent million of rational thinking indians...
Am happy to be proven wrong...Go India - WTC 2023 !
Top post. POTW for me.
BCCI doesn't deserve the Indian cricket fanbase.
It's a good post. One of that of a genuine Indian cricket fan who doesn't blindly say "yes" to whatever the BCCI does.
I love ICT, but I seriously hate BCCI. That's how I've been for years now.
I don't even have a problem with the IPL as long as it is short and competitive. When I say competitive I mean good quality and balanced wickets. The IPL this year has been one of the most boring I've seen... Literally boring, just keep watching the top 3 batters in the line up pile on runs, match after match after match... There was nothing else in it except for some games at Lucknow and Chennai.
With this preparation, good luck playing the WTC finals.
Aus are gonna smash us by lunch on 3rd day.
Our over hyped IPl stars are going to rock up on the coming monday-tuesday-wednesday fresh off 35-40 deg indian summer and modelling for freakin paan masalas, gambling sites, fizzy sodas and other products that even their khandaaan are never going to use, into early summer england when the ball swings big and their IPL hit blink and giggle technicque and mindset is challenged.
To just make this a contest and this goes onto the 4 days, hopefully we select someone like umesh whose pace can push them ausssies onto the back foot.
Else if they select Jaydev legend wasim reid vaas davidson unadkat, it will one useless 130 kmph trundler after another on which several Aussies who are currently plying the County circuit read : smith, labus, harris, neser et all who are are in tune with the eng conditions will feast and gorge playing on auto pilot with their eyes shut
We will be toasted on ice.
I dont see our overhyped bats with the exception of che pu lasting and winning sessions for us.
End of the day, the IPL is a necessary evil. But it is also An elongated elephantine never ending saas bahu fufi chachi over hyped drama that is about 45 matches, 35 days and 3 teams too long that is endangering the game we love and cherish and defo not gonna helping us win this WTC finals.
The heathrow immigration officers entry stamp on our models turned cricketer's passports would not even be dry by the time when they face the music of cummins, starc, boland and co.
No pracitice games, no red ball cricket - Thanks BCCI - U rock...that is you guys are rock bottom!
& Lastly, we have no LH batsmen in the top order, its just a team of complete right handers - i.e ipl duds!
We have no succession planning when ishant, ash, jads, vk, che pu , jinks, shami, saha, etc go/retire very soon and our over confidence is going to cost us heaps.
But then when you have a cric board who priotizes top $$ over producing top quality cricketers, and a media and public who are fixated on IPL and MSD's entry into the stadium and 1000's of other useless nuances what can you expect?
... From a very disgruntled indian cricket fan who says the BCCI does not represent million of rational thinking indians...
Am happy to be proven wrong...Go India - WTC 2023 !
Two ways of understanding the situation -
Blame ipl or be pragmatic
Ipl is a necessary evil . Pre ipl era , we were barely competitive abroad . Ipl seems to have ushered few positives u can’t overlook -
- Tushar , mohsin etc bowlers getting trained with the best . Bumrah got fast tracked into national team .. bowling talent is unearthed faster in ipl
- players are confident , financially secure . An azar situation likely will not occur . People making good money
- india has reached finals second time . Cheers . Shami , siraj , ash and jadeja coupled with Unmesh Shadul are good enough to build pressure and get wickets .
When I look at the squad , the batsmen are pretty much the ones playing last 5 years except vihari . Pant not being there with bumrah has been our misfortune . Still a decent team .
Wtc final champions will likely be aussie given lack of pant . But who knows - a bharat or a kishan might just surprise u .
If u were a bcci official , what else would u do ? Scheduling versus finances versus injuries . Not easy to please everybody
The only critique of bcci I have is the prima donna culture . Kohli was rightly shown the door though two years too late .
I would say be happy with ipl and wtc finals . Let’s hope that bcci does better selections for odi and t20 wc . They don’t seem to understand t20 and odi well . Rohit is now trying to play correct t20 and hopefully he will get us one if not two trophies in next two years .
Don’t sweat over cricket too much . It’s just a game .
Same opening partner for India for another WTC final- Rohit Sharma and Shubhman Gill.
KL misses out on a chance for another WTC Final.
Jet lag, format change, exhaustion. This crazy thing keeps happening every year. THey play IPL. THen they play an important Test and lose it.
It’s hard to beat team like India
But still supporting My Green
Revenge of Gabba![]()
It’s hard to beat team like India
But still supporting My Green
Revenge of Gabba![]()
I think solution is to shorten the IPL. It is too long currently.
Australia great Mike Hussey believes the experience of Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma will be crucial to India's chances at next month's ICC World Test Championship final in London.
Hussey was well-renowned as one of Australia's best batters in all conditions and thinks Kohli and Rohit must use their vast experience of batting in England to their advantage if India are to prevail against his former side.
The former Australia left-hander - who was among the coaching setup that helped England to last year’s ICC Men’s T20 World Cup title and is currently employed as batting coach of the Chennai Super Kings in the IPL - had no hesitation in nominating the veteran duo as the key players for India at the one-off Test that commences at The Oval on June 7.
"It’s hard to see past Virat Kohli," Hussey remarked.
"He (Kohli) is obviously coming back into some great form again in all forms of the game really, so both he and Rohit Sharma with the bat are going to be important for India."
India recently regained the Border-Gavaskar Trophy with an emphatic 2-1 victory over Australia in the four-match Test series on home soil, but Hussey knows conditions will be vastly different in London with fast bowling expected to be of more importance than the spin friendly tracks both sides faced on the sub-continent.
Hussey thinks India's quicks can make a difference at The Oval, but knows Australia's plethora of quality pacers - that includes skipper Pat Cummins and experienced left-armer Mitchell Starc - will prove difficult to handle.
"It is going to be played in England, so English conditions will be different to the recent series in India, so I think the fast bowlers are going to be important," Hussey noted.
"Pat Cummins (is a key for Australia) and Josh Hazlewood might be fit again which would be nice for Australia.
"But India have got so many great bowlers as well. You’ve got (Mohammed) Siraj and (Mohammed) Shami and obviously the spinners with (Ravindra) Jadeja and (Ravichandran) Ashwin as well.
Ravi Shastri selects a combined XI from the Australia and India line-ups set to meet in the ICC World Test Championship final 2023
"It’s a world-class attack and the Aussies are going to have to be at their best to beat them."
And pressed for which team he thinks will prevail and hold aloft the highly-coveted World Test Championship mace, a diplomatic Hussey said he was hoping for a good even contest between the two quality sides.
"I just want to see two great teams go head-to-head and see who comes out on top," Hussey said.
"We just want to see good, hard, fair cricket and whoever comes out on top deserves to. And it should be a fantastic match."
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TeamIndia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TeamIndia</a> members begin their preparations for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WTC23?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WTC23</a> at Arundel Castle Cricket Club. <a href="https://t.co/2kvGyjWNF7">pic.twitter.com/2kvGyjWNF7</a></p>— BCCI (@BCCI) <a href="https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1663148312126431232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2023</a></blockquote>
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