Who are Misbah-ul-Haq's silent but powerful backers?

[Savak]

The guy has been extremely lucky since 2007.

The guy was selected at the age of 32 ahead of the much more experienced, legendary Mohd Yousaf in the 2007 T-20 WC squad and the PCB preferred to play him from 2010 onwards and decided to terminate Yousaf's career for good.

The guy was appointed captain in all formats in 2010 when his career at the age of 35-36 was more or less done, he had even threatened to burn his kit if he was ignored by the PCB for the 2011 WC and said he would quit the game. Last time i checked he was deservedly dropped from the team as a player because his individual performances were below par. The spot fixing scandal gave his career a huge boost.

The guy presided over our most woeful ODI form from 2011 to 2015 inspite of having the services of a pre 15 degree Ajmal, Hafeez, an in form Junaid, Irfan but still persisted with playing the 80's brand of cricket where our ODI rankings were at their lowest. The guy was given an honourable ODI exit without being held accountable

The guy was never held accountable for our horrible overseas performances against South Africa, New Zealand and Australia in 2017. Ian Chappel mocked the PCB for their statements that they will not force Misbah to step down or retire and that they will leave the decision to him.

After his ODI and Test retirement in 2015, 2017. The PCB allows him a role in the PSL.

The PCB gives him a powerful role in the PCB Cricketing Committee

The PCB encourages and goes out of their way to make him the head coach.

What next? Misbah as the next PCB Chairman or CEO? It is not unlikely at all given his luck and upward trajectory

I mean not even our legendary players, players with far more achievements than Misbah have not had this much luck, favor from the PCB.

I refuse to buy the theory that he has no backers, i am fully convinced that he has some powerful source. Misbah is a very cunning operator who operates in silence.

 

[KingKhan12]

He certainly does have some big backing. Everyone can see it except his blind fans.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

The guy was commentating once and was literally predicting the next 5 overs. His mind is engrained in cricket.

 

[in_cutter]

Keep crying

You are just going to have to put up with it. Just back the team.

 

[happydavy]

Has there ever been more dignified Pakistani player ever? That cultured persona is enough to get some backers. Though making him chief selector as well as head coach, might be an innovative concept but likely to end up as failure. Selectors have to be dispassionate who could give an outside in view, while coaches role is more about building connect with players and support them through bad times.

 

[Savak]

On what basis did the PCB reject Younis Khan but oblige Misbah-ul-Haq?

What I find bizarre is that Misbah is being paid $240,000 plus per annum for these two roles which works out to Rs 3.2 million a month.

Younis Khan requested the PCB to make him the U19, A team coach along with Chief Selector and wanted a remuneration of Rs 1.5 million but the PCB refused to oblige him.

I have to demand an investigation into Misbah ul Haqs connections. I refuse to believe he does not have the backing of an extremely powerful, influential person. You cannot survive in Pakistan without a powerful source, contact

 

[Salman4.]

Ego basis. Younis would've threatened to resign every month.

 

[Hawkeye]

Because, Younis Khan doesn't have the leadership skills that Misbah has? Nor does he command the same authority, respect, professionalism.

How are you conveniently ignoring YK's got the biggest ego among our ex-players, and cannot manage a group of 2.

 

[Savak]

Because, Younis Khan doesn't have the leadership skills that Misbah has? Nor does he command the same authority, respect, professionalism.

How are you conveniently ignoring YK's got the biggest ego among our ex-players, and cannot manage a group of 2.

Younis has plenty of respect amongst the youngsters. His role would have been to pass on his knowledge, experience to the youngsters

 

[Titan24]

I guess there is a big difference in personalities of both Younus and Misbah.

I believe Younus would have been great with U19 team but he is an emotional person which isnt bad on its own however, he lets emotions come in and effect his objective thinking and that is what happened most probably in his negotiations with PCB. Younus takes most of things to the heart as we have seen time and time again.

Misbah on the other hand in terms of personality is calm, composed and doesnt let emotions effect him and his thinking. So such kind of traits does help in terms of the interview process and negotiations.

Younus is a legend and PCB was keen of having him but unfortunately some things to do with pay and other such issues effected the outcome of the decision. I still hope Younus can gets associated with A team or U19 team at some level.

 

[topspin]

All this "Younis is emotional" and isn't "calm like Misbah" talk is ignorance.

This myth can be debunked very easily. Ijaz Butt during an interview spoke about the plot against Younis Khan and all the in-fighting that was going on in the team. He mentioned that had YK disclosed the culprits, he would have banned them there and then. However YK wasn't a snitch and gave those players a second chance. Eventually he resigned because he decided to put the team ahead of himself - not something I could say about Misbah!

Yet a notable Misbah loyalist ^ on here has the nerve to call YK "selfish" and "emotional".

Misbah could only wish he had the cricketing IQ of YK. The latter was an instant hit as captain and led the team to glory in the 2009 WT20. You only have to watch the first over of the game, bowled by Amir to see the disparity in their levels of captaincy.

Pakistan cricket would have been in a better place in the early 2010s, had Misbah been replaced by Fawad Alam in the test side, with YK given the captaincy instead.

 

[Savak]

All this "Younis is emotional" and isn't "calm like Misbah" talk is ignorance.

This myth can be debunked very easily. Ijaz Butt during an interview spoke about the plot against Younis Khan and all the in-fighting that was going on in the team. He mentioned that had YK disclosed the culprits, he would have banned them there and then. However YK wasn't a snitch and gave those players a second chance. Eventually he resigned because he decided to put the team ahead of himself - not something I could say about Misbah!

Yet a notable Misbah loyalist ^ on here has the nerve to call YK "selfish" and "emotional".

Misbah could only wish he had the cricketing IQ of YK. The latter was an instant hit as captain and led the team to glory in the 2009 WT20. You only have to watch the first over of the game, bowled by Amir to see the disparity in their levels of captaincy.

Pakistan cricket would have been in a better place in the early 2010s, had Misbah been replaced by Fawad Alam in the test side, with YK given the captaincy instead.

I have met a few people who know Younis Khan in Karachi. They mention he is one of the nicest guys around who goes out of his way to utilize his stature to help people get jobs, resolve problems and even voluntarily coaches kids whenever possible for free. No matter how much you diss him, insult him, he has a very high threshold but his biggest weakness is when he loses it he really loses it. But he is very big on izzat, respect and will never bend over to get something which is no surprise given his pathan roots.

PCB employed double standards by refusing to give YK the exact same thing they have given to Misbah

 

[Cornered-Forever]

All this "Younis is emotional" and isn't "calm like Misbah" talk is ignorance.

This myth can be debunked very easily. Ijaz Butt during an interview spoke about the plot against Younis Khan and all the in-fighting that was going on in the team. He mentioned that had YK disclosed the culprits, he would have banned them there and then. However YK wasn't a snitch and gave those players a second chance. Eventually he resigned because he decided to put the team ahead of himself - not something I could say about Misbah!

Yet a notable Misbah loyalist ^ on here has the nerve to call YK "selfish" and "emotional".

Misbah could only wish he had the cricketing IQ of YK. The latter was an instant hit as captain and led the team to glory in the 2009 WT20. You only have to watch the first over of the game, bowled by Amir to see the disparity in their levels of captaincy.

Pakistan cricket would have been in a better place in the early 2010s, had Misbah been replaced by Fawad Alam in the test side, with YK given the captaincy instead.

Misbah sure has his fair share of haters here. I've never loved him or his cricket, but I definitely won't argue against a home-grown coach with a resume (both inside and outside of cricket). We need to develop and build on a sustainable long-term sport strategy and promoting homegrown talent into leadership roles is the way to go.

As far as your backing question is concerned, after PM IK's promise in the US to bring professionalism to our cricket I have no doubt that this is being carried out under his instructions through one channel or another. For that reason, I have no doubt that this is the decision that PAK cricket needs where it stands today.

 

[Titan24]

All this "Younis is emotional" and isn't "calm like Misbah" talk is ignorance.

This myth can be debunked very easily. Ijaz Butt during an interview spoke about the plot against Younis Khan and all the in-fighting that was going on in the team. He mentioned that had YK disclosed the culprits, he would have banned them there and then. However YK wasn't a snitch and gave those players a second chance. Eventually he resigned because he decided to put the team ahead of himself - not something I could say about Misbah!

Yet a notable Misbah loyalist ^ on here has the nerve to call YK "selfish" and "emotional".

Misbah could only wish he had the cricketing IQ of YK. The latter was an instant hit as captain and led the team to glory in the 2009 WT20. You only have to watch the first over of the game, bowled by Amir to see the disparity in their levels of captaincy.

Pakistan cricket would have been in a better place in the early 2010s, had Misbah been replaced by Fawad Alam in the test side, with YK given the captaincy instead.

Younus himself resigned as captain which he shouldnt have in my opinion. He again let his emotions take over him in that decision.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/434064.html

"I met the chairman today and told him I needed to rest," Younis told Cricinfo. "I told him I feel as If I have no command over this team. And if a leadership has no command over its players, what is the point of continuing to lead? I also told him that the last 3-4 months have been very trying times for me, not just with the cricket but all that has happened outside it. I need time to get myself together now."

"He was really unhappy with the shots some of the batsmen played and he feels as if they did it deliberately to undermine him," one source told Cricinfo. "He just feels as if he is knocking his head against a brick wall, telling batsmen, senior guys, how to play and them just not listening. He is tired of the constant fighting within the team, especially when it is not clear what they are all fighting or upset about. Nobody has gone to him directly to say anything and that has upset him the most. It isn't so much the pressure of his own failures that has brought him down as this."

 

[Titan24]

Misbah sure has his fair share of haters here. I've never loved him or his cricket, but I definitely won't argue against a home-grown coach with a resume (both inside and outside of cricket). We need to develop and build on a sustainable long-term sport strategy and promoting homegrown talent into leadership roles is the way to go.

As far as your backing question is concerned, after PM IK's promise in the US to bring professionalism to our cricket I have no doubt that this is being carried out under his instructions through one channel or another. For that reason, I have no doubt that this is the decision that PAK cricket needs where it stands today.

Good post.

 

[Savak]

Good post.

Imran Khan could not have influenced Misbahs career trajectory for the last 12 years. Misbah has received a lot of favors in the last 12 years from the PCB which was never ever accorded to far better cricketers than him which makes this trajectory look extremely suspicious and pretty evident now that he is utilizing a very powerful but silent connection

 

[Titan24]

Imran Khan could not have influenced Misbahs career trajectory for the last 12 years. Misbah has received a lot of favors in the last 12 years from the PCB which was never ever accorded to far better cricketers than him which makes this trajectory look extremely suspicious and pretty evident now that he is utilizing a very powerful but silent connection

Agreed, Misbah has been supported for quite sometime but the reason I understand is that he maintains a good image, not in bad books of anyone, no nonsense kind of a person, knows how to manage people (Not a single issue of grouping or any such thing under his captaincy tenure) talks sense more often than not (That is what would have influenced Wasim Khan's decision), is calm and composed.

These are few traits which will help anybody in any field to progress in my opinion.

 

[topspin]

I have met a few people who know Younis Khan in Karachi. They mention he is one of the nicest guys around who goes out of his way to utilize his stature to help people get jobs, resolve problems and even voluntarily coaches kids whenever possible for free. No matter how much you diss him, insult him, he has a very high threshold but his biggest weakness is when he loses it he really loses it. But he is very big on izzat, respect and will never bend over to get something which is no surprise given his pathan roots.

PCB employed double standards by refusing to give YK the exact same thing they have given to Misbah

Thanks for sharing and those who know Younis, either personally or through connections (like yourself), or have followed his career extensively (as I have since his debut), will know that he is a top bloke.

I still maintain that he isn't as emotional as what he's made out on PP. If he wanted too he could have exposed and perhaps ended the careers of those who were plotting against him.

Anyway we know it's going to end in tears for Misbah, so YK will get his chance I'm sure.

 

[Savak]

Agreed, Misbah has been supported for quite sometime but the reason I understand is that he maintains a good image, not in bad books of anyone, no nonsense kind of a person, knows how to manage people (Not a single issue of grouping or any such thing under his captaincy tenure) talks sense more often than not (That is what would have influenced Wasim Khan's decision), is calm and composed.

These are few traits which will help anybody in any field to progress in my opinion.

Lol, not sure about grouping. He was part of the group which conspired against Younis Khan.

People are confusing shameless compromising, gee hazoori, salaam badshah salamat with good man management skills, tolerance and professionalism. There is a big difference. During Misbahs captaincy tenure in the 7 years he was in charge, he never once took advantage of it and then at the end deflected blame by scapegoating selectors for not giving him the players he wanted. To cry after the fact when the team has lost and suffered has zero value and tantamount to saving ones own behind

 

[Slim]

The guy was commentating once and was literally predicting the next 5 overs. His mind is engrained in cricket.

Are we talking about the same guy that was against Shaheen Shah Afridi for the WC selection? Recommended Azhar Ali to be Pakistan's next captain? Opened with Younis Khan in a world cup match? Picked players like Riftaullah, Ifthikar, Rahat in the Friends XI i mean Pakistan playing 11?

 

[Saj]

Well he's highly respected in the world of cricket and not just in Pakistan.

People listen to him, people respect him, people like him.

He must have done something right.

 

[Slim]

Because, Younis Khan doesn't have the leadership skills that Misbah has? Nor does he command the same authority, respect, professionalism.

How are you conveniently ignoring YK's got the biggest ego among our ex-players, and cannot manage a group of 2.

Pathetic comments about a test ATG from the fan of a player who is nothing.

 

[Savak]

Well he's highly respected in the world of cricket and not just in Pakistan.

People listen to him, people respect him, people like him.

He must have done something right.

We have a huge load of legends who are equally well respected if not more but even they do not receive massive backing and support from the PCB like he does. His non stop upward trajectory since 2007 at the expense of much better players is impossible to ignore now

 

[Slim]

Be Misbah.

Be Mediocre.

Lose your country a WC final, a WC semi final.

Become captain.

Leave team with it being ranked 6th in tests, and 7th in ODIs at the brink of elimination from CT qualification.

Become coach and chief selector, replacing a silverware winning coach.

 

[in_cutter]

We have a huge load of legends who are equally well respected if not more but even they do not receive massive backing and support from the PCB like he does. His non stop upward trajectory since 2007 at the expense of much better players is impossible to ignore now

Most of our legends are on TV/Youtube throwing hissy fits. That’s all they are good for. So you can carry on with your sulking for the next couple of yrs.

 

[topspin]

Are we talking about the same guy that was against Shaheen Shah Afridi for the WC selection? Recommended Azhar Ali to be Pakistan's next captain? Opened with Younis Khan in a world cup match? Picked players like Riftaullah, Ifthikar, Rahat in the Friends XI i mean Pakistan playing 11?

Nailed it bhai

 

[topspin]

Pathetic comments about a test ATG from the fan of a player who is nothing.

It's sickening to find Misbah's loyalists belittling an ATG player of spin. If it wasn't for YK's one man army efforts with the bat in those UAE tests, Misbah's record would have deteriorated just like it did in ODIs.

The funny thing is YK achieved more as captain in white ball cricket (in just a few months) than the misery Misbah brought us from 2011 to 2015!

 

[Abid Z]

The guy has been extremely lucky since 2007.

Poor post factually in correct.
The guy was selected at the age of 32 ahead of the much more experienced, legendary Mohd Yousaf in the 2007 T-20 WC squad and the PCB preferred to play him from 2010 onwards and decided to terminate Yousaf's career for good.
No it was Yousuf who decided to terminate his own career by not partaking in playing domestic cricket and turning up for training camps. Misbah and younis were On record to say they wanted Yousuf post 2011. You do realise that Yousuf was captain of the team in Australia/New Zealand in 2010? The incidents you are talking about were after 2011 but nobody told Yousuf to quit Warwickshire in the 2011 season early.

The guy was appointed captain in all formats in 2010 when his career at the age of 35-36 was more or less done, he had even threatened to burn his kit if he was ignored by the PCB for the 2011 WC and said he would quit the game.
No I think you will find that he was dropped around 2009 and his comments were “he felt like burning his kit”. He may have been dropped rightly for cricketing reasons but honestly every coach from Nigel Lawson and sac whatmore to Mickey have spoken about his maturity and cricketing intelligence. Ie despite being a limited player he had always displayed good leadership and spot fixing and Ijaz butts bans revived taufeeq, hafeez and others also.

Last time i checked he was deservedly dropped from the team as a player because his individual performances were below par.
You obviously didn’t do a very thorough check. Even a cursory glance at his performances would show that he batted solidly and consistently.

The guy presided over our most woeful ODI form from 2011 to 2015 inspite of having the services of a pre 15 degree Ajmal, Hafeez, an in form Junaid, Irfan but still persisted with playing the 80's brand of cricket where our ODI rankings were at their lowest. The guy was given an honourable ODI exit without being held accountable
We had a spin bowling attack because these were our best bowlers. But we’ve had a very fragile batting order for as long as I can remember. Misbah can’t be blamed because of the failures of Ahmed shehzad, nasir, shoib maqsood and Umar akmal.

If that’s the case you can also blame haves Miandad for losing heavily the 1992 England odi series when we had our best bowlers wasim waqar and mushy.


South Africa, New Zealand and Australia in 2017. Ian Chappel mocked the PCB for their statements that they will not force Misbah to step down or retire and that they will leave the decision to him.
We’ve had a poor record in these countries for as long as I can remember and I started watching cricket in 1987. There are many many reasons why we keep losing here despite have good players but misbah is not the cause of all this.

After his ODI and Test retirement in 2015, 2017. The PCB allows him a role in the PSL.
So what? Good for him to contribute at at the highest level.

The PCB gives him a powerful role in the PCB Cricketing Committee
Do you prefer the return of the dinosaurs?? Look at andrew Strauss in England. Recently retired educated crickets have a lot to prove.

The PCB encourages and goes out of their way to make him the head coach.
They are investing in their own personnel. Obviously they need a flexible local coach who will help tie in the new structure without the language and cultural barriers. Once the new structures are in place obviously a new elite coach can fit into the new system but there is always 2 steps forward and 1 step back in any new structure and clearly misbah understood the domestic scene very well.

What next? Misbah as the next PCB Chairman or CEO? It is not unlikely at all given his luck and upward trajectory
Why not if he is suitably qualified?

I mean not even our legendary players, players with far more achievements than Misbah have not had this much luck, favor from the PCB.
Great players don’t always make great coaches or administrators



I refuse to buy the theory that he has no backers, i am fully convinced that he has some powerful source. Misbah is a very cunning operator who operates in silence.

That’s because you start off working backwards from a conclusion that anything misbah is doing is inherently suspicious. The logical thing to do is to appreciate that the new pcb needs the core four of mani, wasim, misbah and waqar to help devolve the workings of the pcb to get the most out of the new systems in place. It’s about strengthening junior cricket and local coaching committees not just the final playing 12.

 

[Abid Z]

The guy has been extremely lucky since 2007.

Poor post factually in correct.

The guy was selected at the age of 32 ahead of the much more experienced, legendary Mohd Yousaf in the 2007 T-20 WC squad and the PCB preferred to play him from 2010 onwards and decided to terminate Yousaf's career for good.

No it was Yousuf who decided to terminate his own career by not partaking in playing domestic cricket and turning up for training camps. Misbah and younis were On record to say they wanted Yousuf post 2011. You do realise that Yousuf was captain of the team in Australia/New Zealand in 2010? The incidents you are talking about were after 2011 but nobody told Yousuf to quit Warwickshire in the 2011 season early.

The guy was appointed captain in all formats in 2010 when his career at the age of 35-36 was more or less done, he had even threatened to burn his kit if he was ignored by the PCB for the 2011 WC and said he would quit the game.

No I think you will find that he was dropped around 2009 and his comments were “he felt like burning his kit”. He may have been dropped rightly for cricketing reasons but honestly every coach from Nigel Lawson and sac whatmore to Mickey have spoken about his maturity and cricketing intelligence. Ie despite being a limited player he had always displayed good leadership and spot fixing and Ijaz butts bans revived taufeeq, hafeez and others also.

Last time i checked he was deservedly dropped from the team as a player because his individual performances were below par.

You obviously didn’t do a very thorough check. Even a cursory glance at his performances would show that he batted solidly and consistently.

The guy presided over our most woeful ODI form from 2011 to 2015 inspite of having the services of a pre 15 degree Ajmal, Hafeez, an in form Junaid , Irfan but still persisted with playing the 80's brand of cricket where our ODI rankings were at their lowest. The guy was given an honourable ODI exit without being held accountable

We had a spin bowling attack because these were our best bowlers. But we’ve had a very fragile batting order for as long as I can remember. Misbah can’t be blamed because of the failures of Ahmed shehzad, nasir, shoib maqsood and Umar akmal.

If that’s the case you can also blame haves Miandad for losing heavily the 1992 England odi series when we had our best bowlers wasim waqar and mushy.

South Africa, New Zealand and Australia in 2017. Ian Chappel mocked the PCB for their statements that they will not force Misbah to step down or retire and that they will leave the decision to him.

We’ve had a poor record in these countries for as long as I can remember and I started watching cricket in 1987. There are many many reasons why we keep losing here despite have good players but misbah is not the cause of all this.

After his ODI and Test retirement in 2015, 2017. The PCB allows him a role in the PSL.

So what? Good for him to contribute at at the highest level.

The PCB gives him a powerful role in the PCB Cricketing Committee

Do you prefer the return of the dinosaurs?? Look at andrew Strauss in England. Recently retired educated crickets have a lot to prove.

The PCB encourages and goes out of their way to make him the head coach.

They are investing in their own personnel. Obviously they need a flexible local coach who will help tie in the new structure without the language and cultural barriers. Once the new structures are in place obviously a new elite coach can fit into the new system but there is always 2 steps forward and 1 step back in any new structure and clearly misbah understood the domestic scene very well.

What next? Misbah as the next PCB Chairman or CEO? It is not unlikely at all given his luck and upward trajectory

Why not if he is suitably qualified?

I mean not even our legendary players, players with far more achievements than Misbah have not had this much luck, favor from the PCB.

Great players don’t always make great coaches or administrators

I refuse to buy the theory that he has no backers, i am fully convinced that he has some powerful source. Misbah is a very cunning operator who operates in silence.

That’s because you start off working backwards from a conclusion that anything misbah is doing is inherently suspicious. The logical thing to do is to appreciate that the new pcb needs the core four of mani, wasim, misbah and waqar to help devolve the workings of the pcb to get the most out of the new systems in place. It’s about strengthening junior cricket and local coaching committees not just the final playing 12.

 

[Saj]

We have a huge load of legends who are equally well respected if not more but even they do not receive massive backing and support from the PCB like he does. His non stop upward trajectory since 2007 at the expense of much better players is impossible to ignore now

Most of whom didn't even bother to apply for any role at PCB but would rather sit on tv and whine and moan and criticise.

 

[wasimjunior]

Most of whom didn't even bother to apply for any role at PCB but would rather sit on tv and whine and moan and criticise.

This isn’t a job to be an accountant at your local Fortune 500 firm.

Pcb find the right candidate and approach him.

This Would also stop leeches like Waqar who conveniently step down for “health reasons” when it suits them and come running Back when they lose their media gigs and need a few bucks

 

[Savak]

Most of whom didn't even bother to apply for any role at PCB but would rather sit on tv and whine and moan and criticise.

And why would they? Did the Steve Rixon episode not prove why no self respecting individual not want anything to do with the PCB? Why should it be okay for foreigners to not want anything to do with the PCB but not okay for our local legends to not want anything to do with the PCB?

Didn't Younis Khan offer to coach, be the chief Selector for the A, U19 teams at half of Misbahs salary? What did the PCB do in return? Is Younis Khan moaning and criticizing

 

[Titan24]

Lol, not sure about grouping. He was part of the group which conspired against Younis Khan.

People are confusing shameless compromising, gee hazoori, salaam badshah salamat with good man management skills, tolerance and professionalism. There is a big difference. During Misbahs captaincy tenure in the 7 years he was in charge, he never once took advantage of it and then at the end deflected blame by scapegoating selectors for not giving him the players he wanted. To cry after the fact when the team has lost and suffered has zero value and tantamount to saving ones own behind

Not sure how much of a role he would have played in the group against Younus as Misbah was around 32-33 years of age with not much international cricket experience or reputation behind him and future wasnt looking very bright at that time for him too. So not sure he would have influenced Younus' captaincy reign in any way.

I completely agree Misbah is not perfect but I am mentioning a few reasons which in my opinion get him in the good books of most management regimes of PCB, PSL franchises etc more often than not.

I think there is no one backing him as with backing you dont have to rot in domestic cricket for decade or so, thinking about leaving cricket, before getting a decent shot at international cricket at 32-33 years of when most players are thinking about their retirements.

 

[Majid Khan]

Misbah stands out head and shoulders above other Pakistani cricketers in terms of the following qualities and combined together, they make him unique for a Pakistan player:

1. Modesty
2. No Ego
3. Well Educated (MBA)
4. Leadership qualities
5. Good communication and people skills, builds good working relationships with all
6. Keeps out of controversies
7. Able to handle criticism
8. Mentally resilient and can cope with pressure


Now name me another Pakistani player who has all these qualities.

 

[Savak]

Misbah stands out head and shoulders above other Pakistani cricketers in terms of the following qualities and combined together, they make him unique for a Pakistan player:

1. Modesty
2. No Ego
3. Well Educated (MBA)
4. Leadership qualities
5. Good communication and people skills, builds good working relationships with all
6. Keeps out of controversies
7. Able to handle criticism
8. Mentally resilient and can cope with pressure


Now name me another Pakistani player who has all these qualities.

Please don't put Misbah on a pedestal. He has plenty of ego which is proven by his refusal to quit domestic cricket, international cricket when he was well past it.

Good communication and people skills are being confused with being a shameless, position saving compromiser ahead of the greater good of the team

Keeps out of controversy is rubbish as well. When the PCB replaced him as T20 captain with Hafeez, he immediately went to Zaka Ashrafs house and threw a hissy fit. Who can forget his threat to burn his cricket kit in 2010. Are we going to forget his involvement in the lobbying against Younis Khans captaincy in 2009?

Ability to cope with criticism is rubbish as well. He has reacted and responded to ex players who have criticized him in the media

We saw how mentally resilient he was at Mohali. Blocking and playing dots for 4-5 deliveries every over is not coping with pressure. Playing at a strike rate of Sr 60-70 and allowing the run rate to escalate to 10 plus in the final overs is not dealing with pressure

No Pakistani players has all of these qualities

 

[sshakir411]

In the Pakistani fan pea brain, the best of the best cricketers are the ones who fit only one mould: extravagant, outspoken, nice-haired, now or never, go-hard-or-go-home kinda individuals. Basically the concept of a Bollywood hero, a savior who will land from the heavens and pull all the right strings each time and show the world he’s boss!

God forbid if the individual does not check all/some of the boxes.... he’s either there because of nepotism, backing, corruption, and whatever the fans little peas can think of.

These were our local candidates: Waqar, Mohsin Khan, Mohammad Akram, Mohammad Wasim, Faisal Iqbal.

One outsider with no coaching experience.

Pretty obvious that Misbah was asked to apply for the coaching role after Wasim Khan realized an unconventional approach had to be tried. Instead of debating/discussing the new structure and role, or what the advantage or disadvantage would be to the team....Pakistani fans want to discuss....who is Misbah-Ul-Haq’s puppet master?

 

[Savak]

In the Pakistani fan pea brain, the best of the best cricketers are the ones who fit only one mould: extravagant, outspoken, nice-haired, now or never, go-hard-or-go-home kinda individuals. Basically the concept of a Bollywood hero, a savior who will land from the heavens and pull all the right strings each time and show the world he’s boss!

God forbid if the individual does not check all/some of the boxes.... he’s either there because of nepotism, backing, corruption, and whatever the fans little peas can think of.

These were our local candidates: Waqar, Mohsin Khan, Mohammad Akram, Mohammad Wasim, Faisal Iqbal.

One outsider with no coaching experience.

Pretty obvious that Misbah was asked to apply for the coaching role after Wasim Khan realized an unconventional approach had to be tried. Instead of debating/discussing the new structure and role, or what the advantage or disadvantage would be to the team....Pakistani fans want to discuss....who is Misbah-Ul-Haq’s puppet master?

The question is perfectly justified if you monitor his upward trajectory since 2007. Its like the PCB cannot live without him. It is highly suspicious why he is always the number one name in all PCB affairs. It definately warrants an indepth investigation

 

[Junaids]

Most of whom didn't even bother to apply for any role at PCB but would rather sit on tv and whine and moan and criticise.

Sorry, but that is more ethical than sitting on the committee that removes the Head Coach, then applying for the job.

I used to respect Misbah, but it has become plain obvious that he is just a Cricket Tragic who wants supported employment so that he doesn't have to get a real job in the real world.

And he will use any means to get what he wants. Which delayed Babar Azam's Test career by 2 years.

 

[Major]

Allah

Misbah's mother was once giving an interview and she said something that really touched me.

Izat aur Zilat deynay wala saab Allah kay haath mein hota hai

This was during the time when misbah was being attacked by everyone..

Also, alot of posters on this forum haven't meant Pakistani cricketers. You ahve no idea how they behave. Misbah had the backing of every PCB official. Even back in the early 2000s he was being touted as captain by Tauqir Zia.

Almost 90% of our first class cricketers are kind of jahils. You ever sit with them or talk to them they do such stupid things that really makes you think that how could this guy be representing our country.
PCB officials are educated people, and they prefer to deal with people who also come from educated backgrounds.

When i was playing club cricket, i was once asked by Naveed Malik to deposit his cheque in the bank right accross. I had that guys whole bank account number in my hands, and i am not even his firend or anything. Thats how stupid these people are.

Umar Amin was a good educated fellow, and always a good person to talk to.
But then there was my coach who would make side comments that Umar Amin only made it because his father would come with him and stand while he was being coach. He is mummydaddy bla bla.

This is the difference between the educated and the non educated cricketers. PCB officials dont like to deal with such people. Younis Khan is another example of being uneducated. THe guy has no patience, and everyone knows that when it comes to beuracracy, you need to be patient.


Also Misbah came back in to the team with reasons.

In 2007 he came back into the team as he was playing alot of t20s with Pakistan A and in one instance he made a 100.

The 2010 come back was due to the oath brigade and the spot fixing fiasco. Ijazz Butt was fed up with what had happened. The Oath Brigade took place due to groups that were form in the team. Than the spot fixing also took place as Asif, Butt, Amir all belonged to one group. And Afridi was no good either. Misbah was chosen as the leader due to his Pakistan A and Sngpl experience plus he wasnt invovled in groupings. He didn't belong to any group.

As for now, his knowledge of the game is unmatched. Plus, he has a god rapport with the players, almost everyone praised him for this position. He has a SNGPL and Islamabad United and Faisalabad Team as performance record.

His dedication for the game is no lie, he played grade 2 just to see his Faisalabad team from being kicked out of first class. He saved it twice.

Also Zakir khan and many officials have dealt wth Misbah before. THere used to be alot of arguments on selectiion. During 2018-2019 most of the players that were chosen in Misbahs team ended up playing for Pakistan

Misbah even picked Shaheen Afridi in his SNGPL and Ibtisam Sheikh aswell. INfact, Misbah went on to pick Azizullah aswell for SNGPL, who was a hidden gem in Pakistan u19

 

[Snowflake]

It's the dinosaurs running the PCB who, just like a typical 60 year old uncle in any desi family, think that Misbah was a great player for Pakistan. These are the people whose understanding of the game is limited to just final scorecards.

If one doesn't have understanding of the modern day cricket and cannot see beyond scorecards to analyze players, they'll think Misbah is the best thing since sliced bread.

Fact is, this guy was devastating for Pakistan cricket and unfortunately there's no end in sight to this torture.

 

[Snowflake]

Allah

Misbah's mother was once giving an interview and she said something that really touched me.

Izat aur Zilat deynay wala saab Allah kay haath mein hota hai

This was during the time when misbah was being attacked by everyone..

Also, alot of posters on this forum haven't meant Pakistani cricketers. You ahve no idea how they behave. Misbah had the backing of every PCB official. Even back in the early 2000s he was being touted as captain by Tauqir Zia.

Almost 90% of our first class cricketers are kind of jahils. You ever sit with them or talk to them they do such stupid things that really makes you think that how could this guy be representing our country.
PCB officials are educated people, and they prefer to deal with people who also come from educated backgrounds.

When i was playing club cricket, i was once asked by Naveed Malik to deposit his cheque in the bank right accross. I had that guys whole bank account number in my hands, and i am not even his firend or anything. Thats how stupid these people are.

Umar Amin was a good educated fellow, and always a good person to talk to.
But then there was my coach who would make side comments that Umar Amin only made it because his father would come with him and stand while he was being coach. He is mummydaddy bla bla.

This is the difference between the educated and the non educated cricketers. PCB officials dont like to deal with such people. Younis Khan is another example of being uneducated. THe guy has no patience, and everyone knows that when it comes to beuracracy, you need to be patient.


Also Misbah came back in to the team with reasons.

In 2007 he came back into the team as he was playing alot of t20s with Pakistan A and in one instance he made a 100.

The 2010 come back was due to the oath brigade and the spot fixing fiasco. Ijazz Butt was fed up with what had happened. The Oath Brigade took place due to groups that were form in the team. Than the spot fixing also took place as Asif, Butt, Amir all belonged to one group. And Afridi was no good either. Misbah was chosen as the leader due to his Pakistan A and Sngpl experience plus he wasnt invovled in groupings. He didn't belong to any group.

As for now, his knowledge of the game is unmatched. Plus, he has a god rapport with the players, almost everyone praised him for this position. He has a SNGPL and Islamabad United and Faisalabad Team as performance record.

His dedication for the game is no lie, he played grade 2 just to see his Faisalabad team from being kicked out of first class. He saved it twice.

Also Zakir khan and many officials have dealt wth Misbah before. THere used to be alot of arguments on selectiion. During 2018-2019 most of the players that were chosen in Misbahs team ended up playing for Pakistan

Misbah even picked Shaheen Afridi in his SNGPL and Ibtisam Sheikh aswell. INfact, Misbah went on to pick Azizullah aswell for SNGPL, who was a hidden gem in Pakistan u19

His "knowledge of the game" was truly on display during our tour of Australia... It was also on display during the countless ODI innings that he sucked the momentum out of. Definitely a genius who left our ODI team in the ruins.

 

[Slim]

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] your god has been proven wrong so many times. His decision making, cricketing knowledge has been show to be below par in numerous occasions.

Let me provide you with some:

1) Isn't he the same guy that recommended Azhar Ali to become Pakistan's captain which proved to be disastrous for Pakistan cricket?
2) Didnt Misbah open with Younis Khan in a WC match for it to fail spectacularly?
3) Wasnt Misbah against Shaheen's selection for the WC 2019?
4) You claim Misbah is involved in no groupings yet he selected players like Ifthikar, Rahat, Riftaullah etc. for the team? He was infamously known for the Friends 11.
5) Wasnt Misbah responsible for Babar's non selection in tests?

There are many more, but i want to see if you can answer these 5.

 

[Snowflake]

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] your god has been proven wrong so many times. His decision making, cricketing knowledge has been show to be below par in numerous occasions.

Let me provide you with some:

1) Isn't he the same guy that recommended Azhar Ali to become Pakistan's captain which proved to be disastrous for Pakistan cricket?
2) Didnt Misbah open with Younis Khan in a WC match for it to fail spectacularly?
3) Wasnt Misbah against Shaheen's selection for the WC 2019?
4) You claim Misbah is involved in no groupings yet he selected players like Ifthikar, Rahat, Riftaullah etc. for the team? He was infamously known for the Friends 11.
5) Wasnt Misbah responsible for Babar's non selection in tests?

There are many more, but i want to see if you can answer these 5.

Quite a solid list but this isn't even 10% of failures

 

[Saj]

Sorry, but that is more ethical than sitting on the committee that removes the Head Coach, then applying for the job.

I used to respect Misbah, but it has become plain obvious that he is just a Cricket Tragic who wants supported employment so that he doesn't have to get a real job in the real world.

And he will use any means to get what he wants. Which delayed Babar Azam's Test career by 2 years.

There are flaws in what's happened, but give me someone who will try to work for the betterment of Pakistan cricket over those who criticise but do nothing, any day of the week.

 

[Savak]

There are flaws in what's happened, but give me someone who will try to work for the betterment of Pakistan cricket over those who criticise but do nothing, any day of the week.

So in other words we will overlook ethical issues, massive conflict of issues as long as our desired candidate gets the job

 

[The_Odd_One]

All this "Younis is emotional" and isn't "calm like Misbah" talk is ignorance.

This myth can be debunked very easily. Ijaz Butt during an interview spoke about the plot against Younis Khan and all the in-fighting that was going on in the team. He mentioned that had YK disclosed the culprits, he would have banned them there and then. However YK wasn't a snitch and gave those players a second chance. Eventually he resigned because he decided to put the team ahead of himself - not something I could say about Misbah!

Yet a notable Misbah loyalist ^ on here has the nerve to call YK "selfish" and "emotional".

Misbah could only wish he had the cricketing IQ of YK. The latter was an instant hit as captain and led the team to glory in the 2009 WT20. You only have to watch the first over of the game, bowled by Amir to see the disparity in their levels of captaincy.

Pakistan cricket would have been in a better place in the early 2010s, had Misbah been replaced by Fawad Alam in the test side, with YK given the captaincy instead.

You may have a memory of a goldfish if you do not remember Younis not accepting or quitting captaincy multiple times, throwing tantrums before 2011 and 2015 World cups upon his non-selection, fighting with Inzamam during a football match, beating up a fan, etc.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Misbah has the traits which are seldom found in a Pakistani cricketer, education, hard-work and honesty.

No wonder, PCB has no option but to rely on him time and time again.

 

[topspin]

You may have a memory of a goldfish if you do not remember Younis not accepting or quitting captaincy multiple times, throwing tantrums before 2011 and 2015 World cups upon his non-selection, fighting with Inzamam during a football match, beating up a fan, etc.

Inzamam was at fault there, but I'm not surprised to hear this drivel because you're not the sharpest tool in the box.

 

[Saj]

So in other words we will overlook ethical issues, massive conflict of issues as long as our desired candidate gets the job

That's not what I've written.

The recruitment process has not been perfect but Misbah has put his name forward which is more than what some of the tv experts have done.

 

[Sir-fraz]

its better to just give him a chance if he fails, it his own legacy that will get hurt. we all know his defensive mentality in odis was the cause of many loses. maybe he might be a better man manager. we will have to wait and see.

i just hope players are selected based on merit that all.

 

[Savak]

That's not what I've written.

The recruitment process has not been perfect but Misbah has put his name forward which is more than what some of the tv experts have done.

Again I ask you, why do you say it is justified for foreigners not to apply to the PCB but not give the same leeway to locals?

 

[Junaids]

That's not what I've written.

The recruitment process has not been perfect but Misbah has put his name forward which is more than what some of the tv experts have done.

With respect, this appointment crosses a red line far far beyond “imperfect recruitment”.

In most western countries there is a cooling off period, typically five years, before a former government minister or civil servant can work as a private sector lobbiest or employee. It is why people outside the USA are shocked by the putative venue of next year’s G7 summit.

We all assumed that Misbah’s education and assumed integrity meant that after he dismissed Mickey Arthur he would understand that 2024 was the earliest he could seek to take his job.

But clearly we assumed that Misbah had a degree of integrity that he does not in reality possess.

And it is not a one-off aberration. Everybody knows that the captain is subordinate to the Chief Selector, but the Coach is subordinate to the captain. That’s why no other team has been dumb enough to adopt this model.

But where does this leave the captain? Misbah will be both his subordinate and his boss!

The closest parallel I can recall was in the late 1980’s, when Rolling Stone Bill Wyman aged 52 married 17 year old Mandy Smith, at the same time that Smith’s mother was with Wyman’s son.

For some reason, Pakistan and Misbah have adopted that illustrious precedent. And it appears that the country is so used to conflicts of interest and bad governance that the press and media is abdicating its responsibility to make this stupid mistake untenable.

 

[Savak]

Let's not forget another thing. The PCB offered to make Misbah the head coach and chief selector of the U16, U19, A team but he refused back then but did not waste a second for accepting the same position when it came to the senior national team.

It's all about the $$$, the limelight, 5 star hotels, meals and daily allowances

 

[ManFan]

Let's not forget another thing. The PCB offered to make Misbah the head coach and chief selector of the U16, U19, A team but he refused back then but did not waste a second for accepting the same position when it came to the senior national team.

It's all about the $$$, the limelight, 5 star hotels, meals and daily allowances

It’s all about the money for everyone.

Misbah is a man, not a mythical figure.

 

[Saj]

Again I ask you, why do you say it is justified for foreigners not to apply to the PCB but not give the same leeway to locals?

Don't get what you are asking.

Anyone can apply for the job as far as I am aware.

 

[Savak]

Don't get what you are asking.

Anyone can apply for the job as far as I am aware.

I have observed a trend here where people back foreigners for not applying to the PCB due to the low pay, perks offered and PCB's reputation as a poor employer

Why blame local applicants for not applying then? Why put Misbah on a pedestal for applying instead of the local players who may be equally as the foreigners be off put by the low salary of the job, PCB's reputation as a poor employer. Do these things go away for local applicants?

 

[Saj]

I have observed a trend here where people back foreigners for not applying to the PCB due to the low pay, perks offered and PCB's reputation as a poor employer

Why blame local applicants for not applying then? Why put Misbah on a pedestal for applying instead of the local players who may be equally as the foreigners be off put by the low salary of the job, PCB's reputation as a poor employer. Do these things go away for local applicants?

Yes, but those foreigners don't sit on tv and whine all day, every day about PCB not giving them an opportunity.

 

[Junaids]

Don't get what you are asking.

Anyone can apply for the job as far as I am aware.

Very good point!

Absolutely anyone.

Exhibit A: Having zero experience as a First Class coach appears to be no obstacle to being appointed.

Exhibit B: Having an outrageous Conflict of Interest having been on the committee which sacked the last coach appears to be no obstacle to being appointed.

You apparently don’t need any experience or even clean hands to get this job.

So yes, you make an excellent point and I totally agree with you.

 

[in_cutter]

Are people going to whine like this throughout he’s tenure? The guy has just been appointed. Judge later!

 

[shaz619]

Very good point!

Absolutely anyone.

Exhibit A: Having zero experience as a First Class coach appears to be no obstacle to being appointed.

Exhibit B: Having an outrageous Conflict of Interest having been on the committee which sacked the last coach appears to be no obstacle to being appointed.

You apparently don’t need any experience or even clean hands to get this job.

So yes, you make an excellent point and I totally agree with you.

If experience was the be and end all, graduates would never get a job! I can now honestly say, I am the greatest employee of all time in my company's history despite not being "experienced" sometimes the smarter blokes at the top recognise that someone likes myself or Misbah would bring a set of fresh ideas and energy which is not limited to the tried/tested methods or approaches which lack any ounce of adaptability, experience can be a negative to! you're too set in your ways like Mr. Miyagi telling you to wax on wax off! that's what experience brings to the table nothing more! Now that approach has its benefits but if you take risks from time to time a radical approach can be very very fruitful, I know you and Savak don't like Misbah but I think that is primarily because he is an Alpha Male!

 

[Hamza_]

I think Misbah will do fine.

Also we need to associate ISLU's Owners/Management with PCB/PCT, They are great at spotting talents.

 

[shaz619]

Speaking of the silent, powerful backers; they must be the worst ever, took like century's to make Misbah a regular fixture in the Pak team

Lets be honest, those who are overlooking his hard work and dedication which resulted in success are more dissapointed with their own lack of fortune, but it's not Misbah's fault you don't work as hard as him! it's the same people who always say x or y achieved physical superiority only due to steroids, that logic is just insecurity and masculine weakness

 

[daytrader]

This thread is a good reflection of OP's own insecurities by assuming you need powerful backers to succeed. Maybe he was hard done by someone in the past.
Bro, we are Muslims, the only powerful backer we need is the Almighty.

On the topic of Misbah's appointment, the man lives and breathes cricket. He is a natural leader, yes he's missing the flair that us Pakistanis love, but people follow him willingly. He's as clean as they come and doesn't carry the baggage like some of our Pakistani greats. He is where he is due to sheer hard work

 

[coy0607]

I'd say God!

Otherwise its hard to explain how a slightly above average batsmen who played minimum international cricket till the age of 30, and without any significant family or political connections goes on to captain Pakistan for 4+ years, then become the first ever head coach + chief selector.

Almost no one in Pakistan cricket has had the kind of power Misbah will have going forward

 

[Junaids]

If experience was the be and end all, graduates would never get a job! I can now honestly say, I am the greatest employee of all time in my company's history despite not being "experienced" sometimes the smarter blokes at the top recognise that someone likes myself or Misbah would bring a set of fresh ideas and energy which is not limited to the tried/tested methods or approaches which lack any ounce of adaptability, experience can be a negative to! you're too set in your ways like Mr. Miyagi telling you to wax on wax off! that's what experience brings to the table nothing more! Now that approach has its benefits but if you take risks from time to time a radical approach can be very very fruitful, I know you and Savak don't like Misbah but I think that is primarily because he is an Alpha Male!

There are starter jobs for beginners and high level jobs for specialists.

Misbah isn’t even a beginner. As I keep saying, if he’d applied to coach Bangladesh or Zimbabwe they would have said “sorry, you’re not qualified yet, once you have a history of having coached a First Class team we would consider offering you an interview”.

Some good captains make terrible coaches. Consider Bryan Robson and Roy Keane.

Being a successful captain (which Misbah wasn’t) does not prequalify you to be a top coach.

 

[MRSN]

It’s all about the money for everyone.

Misbah is a man, not a mythical figure.

Then why does he carry such a fake gentleman nice guy attutude.

 

[ManFan]

Then why does he carry such a fake gentleman nice guy attutude.

Because he’s smarter than the rest of the pack, who are a bunch of village idiots.

And I can say that because I come from a background of village idiots.

Also, you cannot pretend being that nice for so long without getting caught.

Everyone who has worked with Misbah has no complaints about his behavior.

He simply plays the game better than anybody else.

 

[CadPakFan]

Although I agree Misbah probably has some sort of connection, people are acting as if Younis is a perfect angle. Younis blackmailed the PCB into selecting him for the 2015 world cup.

 

[Junaids]

Because he’s smarter than the rest of the pack, who are a bunch of village idiots.

And I can say that because I come from a background of village idiots.

Also, you cannot pretend being that nice for so long without getting caught.

Everyone who has worked with Misbah has no complaints about his behavior.

He simply plays the game better than anybody else.

Almost.

Misbah is actually (and this should delight [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] ) cricket’s equivalent of Jacob Rees-Mogg.

In a scene full of uneducated village idiots his education makes him look polite, civilised and classy. It makes you over-estimate the man.

But Rees-Mogg is a weirdo who takes his nanny on the campaign trail with him, refuses to eat foreign food or even join his wife and kids when they holiday in Europe.

Misbah is a cricket tragic who can’t live without the game. But as captain he filled the team with his geriatric cronies and delayed the integration of Babar Azam. And he actually doesn’t have the ethics to go with his manners: he shamelessly applied for this job after being on the committee which removed his predecessor.

We concentrate, obviously, on the Conflict of Interest which saw Misbah take this job. But people forget that Mickey Arthur remained supportive of Misbah even when the entire cricket world said that he needed to drop himself in Australia.

But Misbah has now rewarded Arthur by stabbing him in the back to take his job.

I see Misbah as the most dangerous man in the history of Pakistan cricket. And what he has done to Mickey Arthur shows me that he is both cold-blooded and ruthless in terms of what he is prepared to do for his own benefit.

 

[Savak]

Almost.

Misbah is actually (and this should delight [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] ) cricket’s equivalent of Jacob Rees-Mogg.

In a scene full of uneducated village idiots his education makes him look polite, civilised and classy. It makes you over-estimate the man.

But Rees-Mogg is a weirdo who takes his nanny on the campaign trail with him, refuses to eat foreign food or even join his wife and kids when they holiday in Europe.

Misbah is a cricket tragic who can’t live without the game. But as captain he filled the team with his geriatric cronies and delayed the integration of Babar Azam. And he actually doesn’t have the ethics to go with his manners: he shamelessly applied for this job after being on the committee which removed his predecessor.

We concentrate, obviously, on the Conflict of Interest which saw Misbah take this job. But people forget that Mickey Arthur remained supportive of Misbah even when the entire cricket world said that he needed to drop himself in Australia.

But Misbah has now rewarded Arthur by stabbing him in the back to take his job.

I see Misbah as the most dangerous man in the history of Pakistan cricket. And what he has done to Mickey Arthur shows me that he is both cold-blooded and ruthless in terms of what he is prepared to do for his own benefit.

Don't think Mickey Arthur will have much good to say about Pakistan Cricket after this episode

 

[Junaids]

Don't think Mickey Arthur will have much good to say about Pakistan Cricket after this episode

I am sure that Mickey recognised long ago that he was dealing with a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

The tragedy is that Mickey bided his time until Misbah retired and then made the long-overdue necessary changes, notably rejuvenating the team with young blood and dropping Yasir Shah outside Asia.

And now Misbah will undo all that good work.

 

[Savak]

I am sure that Mickey recognised long ago that he was dealing with a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

The tragedy is that Mickey bided his time until Misbah retired and then made the long-overdue necessary changes, notably rejuvenating the team with young blood and dropping Yasir Shah outside Asia.

And now Misbah will undo all that good work.

Mickey Arthur fully supported Misbah and Younis in public regardless of how he must have felt about them in private. He allowed Misbah to call the shots with regards to the test side as long as he was around.

To watch the same person backstab him was pathetic.

Mickey Arthur had also been asking the PCB to let him know in advance before the team left for the ODI WC whether they were going to keep him or not after the WC was over. But the PCB didn't give him an answer and told him to attend the PCB Cricket Committee meeting and present his case to them following which they would make a decision. In between he was assured by several PCB officials that he would be offered a 2 year contract extension and was completely taken by surprise at the end when his contract was not renewed. To add salt to his wounds he must be even more hurt to see the guy he backed as captain to vote to oust him as coach and then applied to replace him.

Mohsin Khan showed better ethics than Misbah by resigning from the PCB Cricket Committee a while back and then applying to the PCB for a role.

 

[Saj]

Don't think Mickey Arthur will have much good to say about Pakistan Cricket after this episode

Well he's promised me an interview.....let's see.

 

[cricket_cfa]

Misbah support was not enough to get him in team long term till he was 32
His approach is based on logic and calmness and he manages his resources well
My prayers are with him in his new role

 

[Slim]

Well he's promised me an interview.....let's see.

Please do tell him that many of us consider him the best Pakistani coach after Bob Woolmer and we are thankful to him for giving youngsters a chance and inducting a good fitness regime.

 

[Saj]

Please do tell him that many of us consider him the best Pakistani coach after Bob Woolmer and we are thankful to him for giving youngsters a chance and inducting a good fitness regime.

He reads PakPassion, so he knows the various opinions about him and his work.

 

[topspin]

Mickey Arthur fully supported Misbah and Younis in public regardless of how he must have felt about them in private. He allowed Misbah to call the shots with regards to the test side as long as he was around.

To watch the same person backstab him was pathetic.

Mickey Arthur had also been asking the PCB to let him know in advance before the team left for the ODI WC whether they were going to keep him or not after the WC was over. But the PCB didn't give him an answer and told him to attend the PCB Cricket Committee meeting and present his case to them following which they would make a decision. In between he was assured by several PCB officials that he would be offered a 2 year contract extension and was completely taken by surprise at the end when his contract was not renewed. To add salt to his wounds he must be even more hurt to see the guy he backed as captain to vote to oust him as coach and then applied to replace him.

Mohsin Khan showed better ethics than Misbah by resigning from the PCB Cricket Committee a while back and then applying to the PCB for a role.

Great post and I appreciate this even more coming from you, as you weren't a big fan of Mickey Arthur.

People talk about how Misbah is a "man of integrity" and "holds a dignified presence" etc, well they couldn't be any more wrong.

 

[Savak]

Great post and I appreciate this even more coming from you, as you weren't a big fan of Mickey Arthur.

People talk about how Misbah is a "man of integrity" and "holds a dignified presence" etc, well they couldn't be any more wrong.

I think Mickey Arthur being sacked was justified as he had been a failure in his overall tenure. But he wasn't the only one responsible, Sarfaraz should have been shown the door as well as Sarfaraz captaincy, form, fitness were all below par. To sack Mickey Arthur but not Sarfaraz was extremely unfair and unjust.

More than that, I wasn't a big fan of how the PCB went about sacking Mickey Arthur. If they had decided before hand that they were not going to retain him then he should have been told in advance and they should not have given him private reassurances that they were going to retain him. Even worse, they should not have replaced him with someone who was on the committee which voted not to grant him an extension and if he too voted against it.

Overall extremely unprofessional from the PCB

 

[shaz619]

There are starter jobs for beginners and high level jobs for specialists.

Misbah isn’t even a beginner. As I keep saying, if he’d applied to coach Bangladesh or Zimbabwe they would have said “sorry, you’re not qualified yet, once you have a history of having coached a First Class team we would consider offering you an interview”.

Some good captains make terrible coaches. Consider Bryan Robson and Roy Keane.

Being a successful captain (which Misbah wasn’t) does not prequalify you to be a top coach.

Well since good captains make terrible coaches then we got a lot to look forward to since you don't rate Misbah's captaincy

Going back to the experience levels, Ben Davison had none at the top level yet was signed as Fury's leading trainer; he not only got him back in fighting shape but guided him to a tremendous performance against Wilder and then subsequently was nominated as trainer of the year by ring magazine in his early 20s. Unheard of and very rare, but some times a radical selection for a top level role can be fruitful.

 

[Suleiman]

Misbah has no business being a coach of a national level team.

He is a yes man and in good books of people because of that. Limited captaincy, limited player, and loves aging players as he has a grudge against youngsters for keeping him out for so long from the squad when he was trying to make it.

When it was high time to ditch his childhood friend Younis in ODIs prior to WC2015, he was instead holding his hand ye dosti hum nahi todinge style.

Get ready for the return of Sohail Tanvir and Anwar Ali and Zulfiqar the spinner, and the benching of Mohammad Hasnain.