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Who should bat at #3 for Pakistan in T20Is?

Who should bat at #3 for Pakistan in T20Is?

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1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Babar Azam
3. Hussain Talat

World class top 3.
 
Talat. Thought he'd move up gradually, but looks pretty assured at the crease already. Play him at three in T20s, and 4 in ODIs. In ODIs, let Sarfraz have back the no.5 position where he's had his best success, and stick Malik down at 6.
 
Hussain Talat, even though he has played against a West Indies A side he still has played really well and done much better than expected for playing his first T20I series.
 
So far so good i think...still talat sarfraz and malik same sort of players, not sure how many 320 plus scores we're looking in odis with these players at the helm.
But, I do like the look of Asif, Faheem, Nawaz/Imad and Shadab lower down the order.
 
Hussain Talat will play at number 3. Think Arthur recently said something like 'Talat has made the one-down position his own'.
 
Depends on situation. I believe Faheem Ashraf should Bat at 3 as nightwatchman otherwise I go for Talat.
 
Fakhar Zaman should keep opening. As we saw in NZ, Babar and Sarfraz are not great hitters so better to have them at 4 or 5, otherwise they will slow down the innings. I would go with Talat if the choice was between Malik and Talat. Because Hussain Talat is young and a better bowler.
 
Saeed said:
Fakhar Zaman should keep opening. As we saw in NZ, Babar and Sarfraz are not great hitters so better to have them at 4 or 5, otherwise they will slow down the innings. I would go with Talat if the choice was between Malik and Talat. Because Hussain Talat is young and a better bowler.
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A very strange choice. If they are not good hitters how will they accelerate in the final overs? Having a player like Babar at the top of the order is good as he will rotate the strike and give more opportunities to the stroke players. Also it will give an opportunity for Babar himself to get some boundaries in the first 6 overs with the fielders in. Batting in the later overs mean that he has to go from the first ball, it might be the difference between 180 and 200+.
 
giri26 said:
A very strange choice. If they are not good hitters how will they accelerate in the final overs? Having a player like Babar at the top of the order is good as he will rotate the strike and give more opportunities to the stroke players. Also it will give an opportunity for Babar himself to get some boundaries in the first 6 overs with the fielders in. Batting in the later overs mean that he has to go from the first ball, it might be the difference between 180 and 200+.
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There is no guarantee that they will bat during the last few overs. Pakistani batting could easily collapse against better bowling lines. So if Pakistan’s batting collapses they can come to stablise the innings and leave it on Malik, Faheem and Nawaz to accelerate.

To benefit from first 6 overs he should open, otherwise how can we say for sure that openers won’t bat out the first 6 overs? And if openers bat out the fist 6 overs and provide Pakistan a good start than there would be need for him to come at 3 as he would slow down the innings.
 
This set up is ok till Sharjeel is back. Sharjeel and Fakhir are the opening pair Pakistan need, a pair that world could fear...You need six hitters and players who can take the power game to the opposition...Sharjeel and Fakir at top, Asif and Faheem at bottom, in between Babar and Talat to consolidate. We need to go for combination that takes us to 330+ every game on phatta tracks(which one will get in ICC tournaments)...

Sarfraz is not a modern player, nor has power in his game, we need to look beyond him...He messes up the batting lineup, like Azhar its better for him and Pakistan to stick to test only. We need a Captain who atlas is in the team on merit :facepalm:
 
Hussain Talat has started well at number 3. However, the opposition quality hasn't been the greatest but let's keep him at 3 for the next couple series and see how he goes
 
ads101 said:
Talat. Thought he'd move up gradually, but looks pretty assured at the crease already. Play him at three in T20s, and 4 in ODIs. In ODIs, let Sarfraz have back the no.5 position where he's had his best success, and stick Malik down at 6.
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I wouldn’t mind Talat at 6 in ODIs too considering Haris is a must in the Top 4 in ODIs
 
yasir said:
This set up is ok till Sharjeel is back. Sharjeel and Fakhir are the opening pair Pakistan need, a pair that world could fear...You need six hitters and players who can take the power game to the opposition...Sharjeel and Fakir at top, Asif and Faheem at bottom, in between Babar and Talat to consolidate. We need to go for combination that takes us to 330+ every game on phatta tracks(which one will get in ICC tournaments)...

Sarfraz is not a modern player, nor has power in his game, we need to look beyond him...He messes up the batting lineup, like Azhar its better for him and Pakistan to stick to test only. We need a Captain who atlas is in the team on merit :facepalm:
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I think it’s highly unlikely Sharjeel will ever play for Pakistan again.

Also Sarfraz is the best tactician in Pakistan so he stays. As far as his batting goes, he does alright when he is batting at 4, the problem is when he bats at 6, and tries to hit from the get-go. He isn’t suited for that role so he shouldn’t be playing ther. At 4 he did well in the NZ T20’s and also in the 1st T20 vs West Indies
 
Ahson8 said:
I wouldn’t mind Talat at 6 in ODIs too considering Haris is a must in the Top 4 in ODIs
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I wouldn't mind either. But think there's space for Talat up the order and have haris in top 4.

I'd play

1. Fakhar
2. Babar
3. Haris
4. Talat
5. Sarfraz
6. Malik
7. Fahim (or another bat)

The onus on Sarfraz batting up as we lacked the batting up against pace hence captain had to come up and take responsibility. Hopefully however Talat will be better.

Malik looks awful against pace, so best kept down the order.

Sarfraz's best position has been 5, where he averages 60 SR 93. And where those big knocks against England came where he was comfortably our best bat in that series.
 
1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Sarfaraz Ahmad
3. Babar Azam
4. Hussain Talat
5. Shoaib Mallik
6. Asif Ali
7. Fahim Ashraf
8. Shadab Khan
9. Mohammad Nawaz
10. Hasan Ali
11. Mohammad Aamir
 
Ahson8 said:
I think it’s highly unlikely Sharjeel will ever play for Pakistan again.

Also Sarfraz is the best tactician in Pakistan so he stays. As far as his batting goes, he does alright when he is batting at 4, the problem is when he bats at 6, and tries to hit from the get-go. He isn’t suited for that role so he shouldn’t be playing ther. At 4 he did well in the NZ T20’s and also in the 1st T20 vs West Indies
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This is myth, we have lost 5-0 to NZ, tactics does not work if batsmen are flat. Not to mention, loosing 2-0 in test to SL in UAE. In most defeats, he was out of depth and ideas, could not lead from front, because he has very little to offer in those departments. Captaincy really comes in to play in test, where he(and think tank) does not even know what team to play in UAE...

CT win has lot more to do with young guns like Fakhir, Hasan, Shadab, Amir inspiring and performing, again over bowling rise to occasion, than Captaincy. Only in Pakistan we keep carry non performing and non deserving Captain, because we need a senior guy to hold hand. We are still #7 test and ODI team, every player matters, Sarfraz has no place in ODI and T20 team. Test, I don't disagree, he is best choice for now. We had made the same mistake, as with Azhar, made a guy Captain who is not in the team on merit.
 
babajee said:
1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Babar Azam
3. Hussain Talat

World class top 3.
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what has Talat even done ? He gets all bent out of shape when trying to hit down the ground or hit in general.

I do not understand the hype around him as he is also a trundler. The only good thing maybe that is left handed and young.

Harris Sohail is 10 times the player
 
yasir said:
This set up is ok till Sharjeel is back. Sharjeel and Fakhir are the opening pair Pakistan need, a pair that world could fear...You need six hitters and players who can take the power game to the opposition...Sharjeel and Fakir at top, Asif and Faheem at bottom, in between Babar and Talat to consolidate. We need to go for combination that takes us to 330+ every game on phatta tracks(which one will get in ICC tournaments)...

Sarfraz is not a modern player, nor has power in his game, we need to look beyond him...He messes up the batting lineup, like Azhar its better for him and Pakistan to stick to test only. We need a Captain who atlas is in the team on merit :facepalm:
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Sarfraz has been avergaing 40+ since 2015 and also has a healthy strike rate. ( centuries as well ( in WC and in Eng vs Eng, something great captan ul haq could not do)
Moreover, he is different league to Tuk Tuk Azhar as Sarfraz shows way more intent.

Besides hes the best spin player we have maybe Malik comes close

This is just him as a batsman not a winning captain
 
The intelligent Supporter said:
what has Talat even done ? He gets all bent out of shape when trying to hit down the ground or hit in general.

I do not understand the hype around him as he is also a trundler. The only good thing maybe that is left handed and young.

Harris Sohail is 10 times the player
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I do not understand the hype around Fakhar Zaman. He is a hack of the highest grade and depending on the day, he is a leg side hack or an off side hack. What the hell is his batting stance as well... that crouch is so ugly.

#PPers
 
Talat should bat at no. 3 in T20s. Babar will be better in the powerplay overs. This will be our batting line-up.

Fakhar
Babar
Talat
Sarfraz
Asif
Malik
Faheem
And so on...
 
Im liking the current top three it is the right mix of fire and ice. Fakhar to bring the heat, Babar and Talat to knock it around and find the odd boundary, plus Talat has that extra gear to his game.

Then we have old stalwarts in Sarfaraz and Malik. If the situation is good we can promote Asif to number fourth and really turn the screw.
 
ads101 said:
Talat. Thought he'd move up gradually, but looks pretty assured at the crease already. Play him at three in T20s, and 4 in ODIs. In ODIs, let Sarfraz have back the no.5 position where he's had his best success, and stick Malik down at 6.
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Playing Malik at no. 6 is a disaster waiting to happen - esp in Asia.

He should bat at no . 5 until the 2019 WC and then should retire. His role should be to accumulate at a SR of 90.

Sarfraz must bat at no. 6
 
Syed1 said:
Im liking the current top three it is the right mix of fire and ice. Fakhar to bring the heat, Babar and Talat to knock it around and find the odd boundary, plus Talat has that extra gear to his game.

Then we have old stalwarts in Sarfaraz and Malik. If the situation is good we can promote Asif to number fourth and really turn the screw.
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Should this top 3 also be persisted in ODI’s or should BAbar stick to no. 3
 
msb314 said:
Should this top 3 also be persisted in ODI’s or should BAbar stick to no. 3
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I say play the same 11 in ODIs as well. Yes Nawaz at 8 is bit of an anomaly, but he is definitely a good bowler who can maintain a very miserly economy and an excellent fielder and his batting may come in handy when we are 50-5 which as Pakistani fans we know is always around the corner. It may mean that Junaid/Shinwari have to sit out. Asif will be asked to play in T20 mode even in ODIs, since he is not an ODI player. If it comes off Pakistan will even start winning from impossible positions, if it doesn't then we will have Shadab/Fahim/Nawaz/Hasan after him all of whom are competent batsman.
 
Syed1 said:
I say play the same 11 in ODIs as well. Yes Nawaz at 8 is bit of an anomaly, but he is definitely a good bowler who can maintain a very miserly economy and an excellent fielder and his batting may come in handy when we are 50-5 which as Pakistani fans we know is always around the corner. It may mean that Junaid/Shinwari have to sit out. Asif will be asked to play in T20 mode even in ODIs, since he is not an ODI player. If it comes off Pakistan will even start winning from impossible positions, if it doesn't then we will have Shadab/Fahim/Nawaz/Hasan after him all of whom are competent batsman.
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Agree - would rather play Nawaz than Imad (who is complete rubbish).
 
Syed1 said:
I say play the same 11 in ODIs as well. Yes Nawaz at 8 is bit of an anomaly, but he is definitely a good bowler who can maintain a very miserly economy and an excellent fielder and his batting may come in handy when we are 50-5 which as Pakistani fans we know is always around the corner. It may mean that Junaid/Shinwari have to sit out. Asif will be asked to play in T20 mode even in ODIs, since he is not an ODI player. If it comes off Pakistan will even start winning from impossible positions, if it doesn't then we will have Shadab/Fahim/Nawaz/Hasan after him all of whom are competent batsman.
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Haris is a must in ODIs
 
Shoaib Malik should be thinking of retiring!

We need our most technically correct batsman at 3 - has to be Babar.
 
MenInG said:
Shoaib Malik should be thinking of retiring!

We need our most technically correct batsman at 3 - has to be Babar.
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After 2019. Hopefully he retires on really high note. If he hits the runs to Pakistan WC victory. It will be awesome.
 
It doesn't really matter, because Pakistan currently has a flexible batting line up and the best batting lines up ins T20s and these days ODIs are the flexible ones. I did however like the current set up of Fakhar, Babar and Talat. Throw in anyone from Salman to Malik and it still looks great. If the situation requires it, get Talat up top.

Lots of choice.
 
Asch Ali said:
After 2019. Hopefully he retires on really high note. If he hits the runs to Pakistan WC victory. It will be awesome.
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Yep, in the last 3 years Malik is averaging 50 at a sr of almost a 100 and before Pak found a couple of strikers, he was the only guy in the side who could clear the fence with ease. For ODIs that is...in T20s, his average is almost as good, is striking at almost 140 and when you add in his ability to bowl (hopefully Sarfraz uses him more) he is crucial to the sides success.

Let's not forget how he guided Pak's batting in upping the rate against SA in a crucial match.
 
Asch Ali said:
After 2019. Hopefully he retires on really high note. If he hits the runs to Pakistan WC victory. It will be awesome.
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Really should retire but then he needs to be 100% fit for 2019
 
Fakhar Zaman has to open - just leaves Babar Azam
 
MenInG said:
Fakhar Zaman has to open - just leaves Babar Azam
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I think Azam as an opener in T20 is fine with Talat at 3. Batting line ups can always change anyway, they aren't fixed, if Pakistan are chasing a big score I would actually open with Zaman and maybe someone like Ashraf
 
Always a nice dilemma to have, imagine if we still had Sharjeel, all these great players in one line up would make us close to unbeatable!
 
Hussain Talat for me but wouldn't mind if it is Sarfraz
 
Isn't Babar already batting at number 3 for Pakistan in T20Is?
 
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