Who should be India's pacers for their tours of Australia, England, South Africa & New Zealand?

[Hasan123]

Indias 2 fast bowlers in the current series very England have bowled well. The test for Shami and Yadav is away from home. But what I want to know is which Indian fast bowlers you would select away from home.

Can be a 3/4 man seam attack depending on the balance of your side.

Discuss

 

[Sachin136]

I would go with Shami and Yadav in Australia and SA, and Shami and Bhuvi in NZ and England. Maybe add Ishant if they decide to go with 5 bowlers, with Ashwin and Jadeja.

 

[Slog]

I would go with Shami and Yadav in Australia and SA, and Shami and Bhuvi in NZ and England. Maybe add Ishant if they decide to go with 5 bowlers, with Ashwin and Jadeja.

Why doesn't Ishant play anymore?

 

[troodon]

Shami and Bhuvi in SA/Eng/NZ.

Shami/Ishant/Yadav in Aus.

 

[troodon]

Why doesn't Ishant play anymore?

Kohli likes Yadav.

Ishant did bowl far more match winning spells than Yadav. When Ishant gets it right, he will demolish the batting. Did that a few times in the last 3 years.
Yadav even when ge gets it right does not get more than 2 or 3 wickets. I do not remember Yadav getting more than 3 wickets in any Test.

The major problem for Ishant is, when he starts bowling badly, he does not recover even in subsequent spells. He continues his form to the future tests too. Just my observation.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

1. Mohammad Shami

2. Ishant Sharma

3. Bhuveneshwar Kumar

4. Umesh Yadav

5. Barinder Sran

6. Varun Aaron



Top 4 and any of 5 or 6 as per conditions.

 

[EliteCynical]

Kohli likes Yadav.

Ishant did bowl far more match winning spells than Yadav. When Ishant gets it right, he will demolish the batting. Did that a few times in the last 3 years.
Yadav even when ge gets it right does not get more than 2 or 3 wickets. I do not remember Yadav getting more than 3 wickets in any Test.

The major problem for Ishant is, when he starts bowling badly, he does not recover even in subsequent spells. He continues his form to the future tests too. Just my observation.

Reverse Swing is the reason. Umesh and Shami are better at reverse swing in Asian conditions than Ishant. Umesh actually changes his action to a slingy round armish one, to get the ball to tail in. Ishant, because of his height and point of release does not get as much reverse and hence is ineffective with old ball.

Shami is in a different league altogether.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

It's not as if these guys haven't played in Aus/SA/NZ/Eng. May be some people have short memory but I still can't forget that last day against south africa when they were chasing 400 plus target and managed to draw that test match. They could have won it too before they decided to shut the shop. Recently we couldn't bowl out west indies too on the last day of the test match. We are a good/dominant bowling unit only at home these days.

 

[Justcrazy]

Shami , Yasav and kumar are three top choices.

If someone is injured Ishant comes in.

 

[soso_killer]

Actually the question is will they operate with two spinners outside Asia as the emphasis of their attack?
That strategy will fail 9/10, a lot has been murmured about Kohli's trust in fast bowlers and his "attacking" instincts.
It's hard for any captain to shy away from what he knows best, and what has yielded results. Breaking up Jadeja and Ashwin will be one of the toughest decisions he'd make as captain.
Failing to be proactive instead of being reactive will have dire ramifications.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Actually the question is will they operate with two spinners outside Asia as the emphasis of their attack?
That strategy will fail 9/10, a lot has been murmured about Kohli's trust in fast bowlers and his "attacking" instincts.
It's hard for any captain to shy away from what he knows best, and what has yielded results. Breaking up Jadeja and Ashwin will be one of the toughest decisions he'd make as captain.
Failing to be proactive instead of being reactive will have dire ramifications.

Ashwin and Jadeja are both capable with the bat which makes it easy to play 3 seamers.

 

[street cricketer]

Wait what? Why are Indian ppers including only two pacers for overseas tours? I mean, do you guys seriously believe 2 pacers will pick the bulk of the wickets in Australia and South Africa?

Forget about 3, we will need 4 pacers on the hard wickets of Australia and South Africa. Even New Zealand turns flat after the first day. England might just about be the only place where we can get away with 3 seamers (provided they don't dish out flat wickets).

Regardless of the venue, our team for the overseas series should be:

Vijay
Rahul
Pujara
Kohli (c)
Rahane
Pant (wk)
Ashwin
Pandya
Yadav/Bhuvi
Shami
Ishant

Pandya is out for six weeks with a fracture shoulder, but him and Pant should be blooded in as soon as possible before the next round of overseas tours starts. Preferably in one of the Aus matches/Bang/SL matches so that they get experience before the tour of South Africa.

 

[Napa]

It's not as if these guys haven't played in Aus/SA/NZ/Eng. May be some people have short memory but I still can't forget that last day against south africa when they were chasing 400 plus target and managed to draw that test match. They could have won it too before they decided to shut the shop. <b>Recently we couldn't bowl out west indies too on the last day of the test match. We are a good/dominant bowling unit only at home these days.</b>

Your bias is showing. You mention the 1 innings out of 6 that the Indian bowlers didn't get WI out, but conveniently forget to mention the other 5 where they pretty much destroyed WI batting (scores of 243, 231, 196, 388/6 225, and 108).

 

[Sin Nombre]

More than bowlers, we need good slip fielders. Any takers?

Also Bhuvi is a cert in an away xi unless it is a very flat pitch.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Ishant, Bhuvi and Shami will be my top picks. Umesh and Aaron should be backup.

 

[anindo]

Shami is an automatic choice everywhere.

Bhuvi is a guaranteed starter in England & NZ while Ishant is the same in Australia and SA. In all probability these 3 will be our first choice pace bowlers.

Umesh is being preferred currently in India because of his pace and ability to bowl reverse swing. I don't think he will be selected in traditional pace friendly conditions as we saw recently at the Eden Gardens where Bhuvi was preferred.

There are a few others on the fringes. Shardul Thakur has been knocking on the door for some time. Bumrah is having a good first-class season. Sandeep Sharma is a wonderful swing bowler with immaculate control. He has been working hard to get his pace up and will be a handful if he manages to do that. Pandya might be chosen as the 5th bowler who bats at No.8.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Your bias is showing. You mention the 1 innings out of 6 that the Indian bowlers didn't get WI out, but conveniently forget to mention the other 5 where they pretty much destroyed WI batting (scores of 243, 231, 196, 388/6 225, and 108).

Yeah anything I post becomes biased and anything you post is the reality.

 

[Napa]

Yeah anything I post becomes biased and anything you post is the reality.

So you claim that you did not ignore that the Indian bowlers bowled out WI in 5 of 6 innings with an average score of about 200.6, and that you only mentioned the 1 out of the 6 innings they failed is reality? Okay, then...

 

[Zeshan547]

India have better pacers than pak and better spinners even for overseas, and they will win or atleast draw their next series in Eng, Nz, SA, Aus. This is a gun team,
1_Rahul
2_Vijay
3_Pujara
4_Kohli (c)
5_Rahane
6_Pant (wk)
7_Ashwin
8_Jadeja/Pandya (depend on pitch and conditions)
9_Bhuvi
10_Shami
11_Ishant
strongest top 5 plus very good lower order, and 5 front line bowlers, this team will give every team run for their money in both home and away.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So you claim that you did not ignore that the Indian bowlers bowled out WI in 5 of 6 innings with an average score of about 200.6, and that you only mentioned the 1 out of the 6 innings they failed is reality? Okay, then...

Taking wickets against a weak west indies team is an accomplishment these days? Why are you not talking about mccullum's triple hundred and AB's & Faf's brilliant batting on the last day? The only one who is biased here is you. Sorry but I can't speak a lie here that indian fast bowlers are the best in business. We are only good at home these days. Deal with the reality.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Our ideal strategy should be 3 pacers to attack in first innings and 2 spinners to attack in 2nd innings.

3 pacers are likely to be: Shami, Ishant and Bhuvi (with Umesh and a few others backup).

Umesh is that he can bowl well but he doesn't know exactly how to pick wickets unlike Shami.

Ishant is excellent when there is bounce/seam movement but he too doesn't have the ability to strike consistently otherwise.

Bhuvi is super skilled but lack of height may be an issue on flat tracks. I think he would be fine in all countries except Aus.

Shami is our true all conditions bowler as of now. He has improved by leaps and bounds.

Shardul Thakur, Nathu Singh and a few others are in the fringes and I hope they do get chances.

2 spinners are likely to be Ashwin and Jadeja (with Jayant Yadav and Kuldeep Yadav in the wings).

Ashwin is good but I feel there is some work that needs to be done for him to be more penetrative on flatter tracks (I mean in tracks where there is little to no rough). Maybe these non spinning pitches against England are a blessing in disguise for India which serves as a good practice ground.

Jaddu is a solid support bowler. There is no one in the world who can give you control better than this guy.

Jayant Yadav is good but his bowling lacks the extra bite for him to be selected overseas.

Kuldeep Yadav is truly a great hope for India overseas. Needs to be fast tracked into our team fast. He has a higher ceiling than Ashwin potential wise.

My ideal bowling lineup for outside Asia would be:

Bhuvi (swing, seam)
Shami (pace, swing, seam)
Ishant (bounce, seam)
Ashwin (turn, flight, drift, dip)
Kuldeep Yadav (turn, flight, drift, dip)

If Kuldeep is not good enough, then Jaddu
If Bhuvi is not good enough, then Umesh or Nathu or Shardul or someone else

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Taking wickets against a weak west indies team is an accomplishment these days? Why are you not talking about mccullum's triple hundred and AB's & Faf's brilliant batting on the last day? The only one who is biased here is you. Sorry but I can't speak a lie here that indian fast bowlers are the best in business. We are only good at home these days. Deal with the reality.

We were really good in WI.

Yes, Sabina Park was a screw up...agreed....all bowlers flopped....but the pitch lost its zip too. A team that gets all out for 200 usually doesn't score 353/2 in one day without something drastically happening to the pitch.

Just the prev day, 4 wickets fell for 50 odd runs. The rain had messed up the pitch a lot.

Still we should have somehow got the remaining 6 wickets so yes, there is a problem....but our pacers in the WI tour showed a lot of improvement.

 

[DRsohail]

shami.yadav.ishant sharma.and buvi on green top..

 

[DRsohail]

We were really good in WI.

Yes, Sabina Park was a screw up...agreed....all bowlers flopped....but the pitch lost its zip too. A team that gets all out for 200 usually doesn't score 353/2 in one day without something drastically happening to the pitch.

Just the prev day, 4 wickets fell for 50 odd runs. The rain had messed up the pitch a lot.

Still we should have somehow got the remaining 6 wickets so yes, there is a problem....but our pacers in the WI tour showed a lot of improvement.

i think buvi will be very dangerous on nz green top.....he is fantastic seam bowler..i still remember his debut t20 vs pak..on flat pitches 3rd option should be ishant,,

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

We were really good in WI.

Yes, Sabina Park was a screw up...agreed....all bowlers flopped....but the pitch lost its zip too. A team that gets all out for 200 usually doesn't score 353/2 in one day without something drastically happening to the pitch.

Just the prev day, 4 wickets fell for 50 odd runs. The rain had messed up the pitch a lot.

Still we should have somehow got the remaining 6 wickets so yes, there is a problem....but our pacers in the WI tour showed a lot of improvement.

So west indies is the benchmark for our bowlers now? What about our bowlers performances against england, nz, south africa and australia? Only stand out performance was from Ishant at lords.

So many series and matches have been lost due to indian bowlers failing to make use of the bowling conditions. No matter whichever bowler you choose they are going to screw it up away from home. Our batsman have to do all the hardwork in ODI's too by scoring 280-300 or chasing totals more than 280 everytime.

I think you have watched enough cricket to know that when we tour these places we become a completely different team from what we are at home.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

So west indies is the benchmark for our bowlers now? What about our bowlers performances against england, nz, south africa and australia? Only stand out performance was from Ishant at lords.

So many series and matches have been lost due to indian bowlers failing to make use of the bowling conditions. No matter whichever bowler you choose they are going to screw it up away from home. Our batsman have to do all the hardwork in ODI's too by scoring 280-300 or chasing totals more than 280 everytime.

I think you have watched enough cricket to know that when we tour these places we become a completely different team from what we are at home.

So west indies is the benchmark for our bowlers now? What about our bowlers performances against england, nz, south africa and australia? Only stand out performance was from Ishant at lords.

So many series and matches have been lost due to indian bowlers failing to make use of the bowling conditions. No matter whichever bowler you choose they are going to screw it up away from home. Our batsman have to do all the hardwork in ODI's too by scoring 280-300 or chasing totals more than 280 everytime.

I think you have watched enough cricket to know that when we tour these places we become a completely different team from what we are at home.

Either people over-rate our performances or under-rate our performances.

There is a balance bro.

Chalo since you asked...

Indian pacers have done well in WI....then done well against NZ even in pace friendly Kolkata track....done well in Rajkot track (if not for dropped catches)...done well in Mohali weird track too.

Go back and analyze whether our pacers were this good in the past (even at home).

Results follow improvement.....

All this doesn't necessarily mean our pace attack is gonna be lethal in Aus/NZ/SA/Eng...one could hope they are good enough to take 20 wickets but what can't be denied is that they have improved.

Since you mentioned Sabina Park in your prev post, I talked about the whole WI tour. Maybe I should have quoted that post too.
For us, flat tracks with a bit of life (and no reverse) is always the challenge. We seem toothless in those tracks. We will get to that when we can but till then we can't dismiss all improvements as nothing.

For eg - Didn't you say after the Antigua test that you thought Ashwin was just a heavy spin track bully but it was nice to see he could pick wickets even in that track. Well...that was the result of all the improvements that happened BEFORE.....

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

All this doesn't necessarily mean our pace attack is gonna be lethal in Aus/NZ/SA/Eng...one could hope they are good enough to take 20 wickets but what can't be denied is that they have improved.

First of all I am only talking about indian fast bowlers performances away from home and this is the thread about them isn't it? At home we are heavily reliant on spinners and batsman. Away from home when everything relies on our fast bowlers they screw it up most of the time.

When we play in india and are getting wickets easily on these tracks due to ashwin and jaddu we always think we are a good bowling side. But as soon as we step out and play against western countries in their own backyard our bowling attack is exposed. Ashwin hasn't proved himself outside subcontinental conditions either. You can blame dhoni for that because he wasn't given a consistent run in any of the away series. Same goes true for someone like yasir shah who is getting dropped in away games.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

First of all I am only talking about indian fast bowlers performances away from home and this is the thread about them isn't it? At home we are heavily reliant on spinners and batsman. Away from home when everything relies on our fast bowlers they screw it up most of the time.

When we play in india and are getting wickets easily on these tracks due to ashwin and jaddu we always think we are a good bowling side. But as soon as we step out and play against western countries in their own backyard our bowling attack is exposed. Ashwin hasn't proved himself outside subcontinental conditions either. You can blame dhoni for that because he wasn't given a consistent run in any of the away series. Same goes true for someone like yasir shah who is getting dropped in away games.

You are missing the point.

Let me take another approach.

You were a bit surprised when you saw Ash do well in Antigua. Understandable but you did.

Why were you surprised?

Cos you were NOT accounting the improvement that he had made over the last 1.5 years. Other Indian posters were relieved but not surprised cos they accounted for that improvement. He has a long way to go is something that goes without saying.

Same way...you are again not accounting for the improvement that Shami and co have made in the last year or so.

For all we know, its totally possible for Indian pacers to screw up bad outside Asia. No one says they will surely click. But they have a BETTER CHANCE to do so with improvement.

If you say, I will only say they are good when they do it there, then what's the need for any cricket analysis? Its like saying world economy is bad AFTER the 2008 crash. Anyone can do that.

What makes cricket discussions interesting is when we analyze the PROGRESS....the strenths, the weaknesses...and forming expectations based on that. It may or may not work (that's part of life) but usually good improvement always leads in some sort of
end result.

And by the way, in this series, there were many instances where pacers gave us the crucial breakthrough for spinners unlike the recent past.

 

[Moh@n]

Shami, Bhuvneshwar, Yadav and Ishant for tests. Aaron too but he hardly remains injury free.

Bumrah for LOIs only along with trundlers like Dhawal.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You are missing the point.

Let me take another approach.

You were a bit surprised when you saw Ash do well in Antigua. Understandable but you did.

Why were you surprised?

Cos you were NOT accounting the improvement that he had made over the last 1.5 years. Other Indian posters were relieved but not surprised cos they accounted for that improvement. He has a long way to go is something that goes without saying.

Same way...you are again not accounting for the improvement that Shami and co have made in the last year or so.

For all we know, its totally possible for Indian pacers to screw up bad outside Asia. No one says they will surely click. But they have a BETTER CHANCE to do so with improvement.

If you say, I will only say they are good when they do it there, then what's the need for any cricket analysis? Its like saying world economy is bad AFTER the 2008 crash. Anyone can do that.

What makes cricket discussions interesting is when we analyze the PROGRESS....the strenths, the weaknesses...and forming expectations based on that. It may or may not work (that's part of life) but usually good improvement always leads in some sort of
end result.

And by the way, in this series, there were many instances where pacers gave us the crucial breakthrough for spinners unlike the recent past.

Shami is the only fast bowler I like in our bowling line up. But he is not the only guy who is going to bowl there. L et's just wait for india's next assignment away from home. We will see then how much our fast bowlers have improved. Right now everything is looking improved and goody goody since we are winning at home.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Shami is the only fast bowler I like in our bowling line up. But he is not the only guy who is going to bowl there. L et's just wait for india's next assignment away from home. We will see then how much our fast bowlers have improved. Right now everything is looking improved and goody goody since we are winning at home.

That is true but the other aspects are also happening. Bhuvi has improved too. Yadav is no longer a spray gun in tests.

 

[Indiafan]

Shami is the only fast bowler I like in our bowling line up. But he is not the only guy who is going to bowl there. L et's just wait for india's next assignment away from home. We will see then how much our fast bowlers have improved. Right now everything is looking improved and goody goody since we are winning at home.

When we previously used to win at home, it was always spinners. It is still spinners but the zip and bounce our fast bowlers are getting on these pitches is being called out. The English commentators made note of 2 things

1) How much better our fast bowlers were bowling on these pitches when compared to the English bowlers. i mean Anderson looked toothless

2) How when Cook asks his fast bowlers to bowl, he wants them to contain and bowl length to play a foil with the spinners whereas Kohli expects his bowlers to go all out and attack

These were things which didn't happen before so I am very optimist

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

When we previously used to win at home, it was always spinners. It is still spinners but the zip and bounce our fast bowlers are getting on these pitches is being called out. The English commentators made note of 2 things

1) How much better our fast bowlers were bowling on these pitches when compared to the English bowlers. i mean Anderson looked toothless

2) How when Cook asks his fast bowlers to bowl, he wants them to contain and bowl length to play a foil with the spinners whereas Kohli expects his bowlers to go all out and attack

These were things which didn't happen before so I am very optimist

Credit goes to Kohli for these things. Yadav under kohli is a different bowler than he was under dhoni. Kohli like Ganguly expects his fast bowlers to be aggressive and shows confidence in them.

 

[Rightarmfast]

We have Nathu Singh, a genuinely fast bowler who is yet to make a debut. Plus the 2 fast bowlers from the Under19 world cup, Avesh Khan and Khaleel, both of who, are on the faster side and pretty good. Don't forget, we havent even discussed Varun Aaron right now. So, we do have a few choices, so definitely we have a lot to look forward to.

 

[Indiafan]

Credit goes to Kohli for these things. Yadav under kohli is a different bowler than he was under dhoni. Kohli like Ganguly expects his fast bowlers to be aggressive and shows confidence in them.

Absolutely. We are extremely lucky to have him.

 

[Ind_Fan]

Hi all, I m from India I have been following this site for the last 2 years or so and I find so many Ppers , Ind or Pak are good in their points, knowledgable in the game , of course there have been times they punch below the belt, from both countries
Coming to the point, I have been following the game for thelast 32 years only to hetbrokrn abt tourslike 1989 pak, 1997 sa, 1997 wi, 1999 aus, 2003 wc, 2008 aus to recall the top disappointments. All these I am referring to have been major bowling , fast, failures with no one to support kapil, manoj, srinath, prasad, ishant, zahir etc at various times. The current lot of shami, kumar and ishant have two things in favor, fitness and captain's confidence which might result in higher drawn series in future than losses.

 

[Moh@n]

Shami is the only fast bowler I like in our bowling line up. But he is not the only guy who is going to bowl there. L et's just wait for india's next assignment away from home. We will see then how much our fast bowlers have improved. Right now everything is looking improved and goody goody since we are winning at home.

Bhuvneshwar won us the third test match in WI very recently on a very placid pitch. So no, Shami is not the only good pacer we have.

 

[street cricketer]

Hi all, I m from India I have been following this site for the last 2 years or so and I find so many Ppers , Ind or Pak are good in their points, knowledgable in the game , of course there have been times they punch below the belt, from both countries
Coming to the point, I have been following the game for thelast 32 years only to hetbrokrn abt tourslike 1989 pak, 1997 sa, 1997 wi, 1999 aus, 2003 wc, 2008 aus to recall the top disappointments. All these I am referring to have been major bowling , fast, failures with no one to support kapil, manoj, srinath, prasad, ishant, zahir etc at various times. The current lot of shami, kumar and ishant have two things in favor, fitness and captain's confidence which might result in higher drawn series in future than losses.

Welcome to PP!

 

[jnaveen1980]

They won't be using SG balls there. Conventional swing works better.

 

[anindo]

If there is some help in the pitches or overhead conditions, we have a reasonable chance of winning. If we get roads then the best we can hope for is a draw.

 

[King Kong]

Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh for all overseas tours. We have to move on from Ishanth. He is the worst fast bowler ever to have played for an international team. Great that Kohli recognized it and preferring other bowlers over him. Worst Dhoni kept on playing him. I am sure had Kohli been the captain for NZ and SA tours, we would have a result of 1-1 and 1-0. Waiting to see Dhoni getting kicked out of ODI team. That series against Zimbabwe was a great chance for selectors to test a young WK batsman. But he played that series and made India lose a match against mighty Zimbabwe.

 

[Indiafan]

Bhuvneshwar won us the third test match in WI very recently on a very placid pitch. So no, Shami is not the only good pacer we have.

Bhuvneswar has improved a lot recently. He was reversing a mile in the NZ test he played

 

[Napa]

So west indies is the benchmark for our bowlers now?

You are the one who introduced WI into the conversation by saying "Recently we couldn't bowl out west indies too on the last day of the test match."

The point is that you only pointed out the single failure when ignoring the numerous successes and concluded "We are a good/dominant bowling unit only at home these days".

This is a textbook case of being "biased".

 

[anindo]

Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh for all overseas tours. We have to move on from Ishanth. He is the worst fast bowler ever to have played for an international team. Great that Kohli recognized it and preferring other bowlers over him. Worst Dhoni kept on playing him. I am sure had Kohli been the captain for NZ and SA tours, we would have a result of 1-1 and 1-0. Waiting to see Dhoni getting kicked out of ODI team. That series against Zimbabwe was a great chance for selectors to test a young WK batsman. But he played that series and made India lose a match against mighty Zimbabwe.

Ishant took 15 wickets at 25 in NZ, 14 wickets at 27 in England and 13 wickets at 23. Needless to say India have not moved on from him and, fitness permitting, he will be in the XI when we tour overseas.

His LOI career though has definitely come to an end and rightly so.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You are the one who introduced WI into the conversation by saying "Recently we couldn't bowl out west indies too on the last day of the test match."

The point is that you only pointed out the single failure when ignoring the numerous successes and concluded "We are a good/dominant bowling unit only at home these days".

This is a textbook case of being "biased".

Yeah I introduced west indies into discussion because you are expected to win against such a side. Obviously the weakness will be highlighted more. It's like playing a 3 match series against zimbabwe and winning only 2 matches. You can be happy with 2-0 but I want my team to dominate and whitewash them.

 

[Bilal7]

Mohammad Shami is a class apart from every other Indian bowler. Expect him to do well but for the rest of the trundlers and spray-guns to be tonked around as usual.

 

[street cricketer]

Mohammad Shami is a class apart from every other Indian bowler. Expect him to do well but for the rest of the trundlers and spray-guns to be tonked around as usual.

Hopefully you start supporting India except when they're playing Pakistan.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

England and New Zealand

Bhuvy (leading the pack)
Ishant
Shami

Australia and South Africa

Shami (leading the pack)
Ishant
Yadav


But I hope Kohli stresses on going in early for those tours, our bowlers aren't really gifted with a good head on their shoulders so they need a couple of practice games to get their lengths and line adjusted for particular conditions, if that doesn't happen, Kohli or no Kohli I don't see any difference in results.

 

[Bilal7]

Hopefully you start supporting India except when they're playing Pakistan.

I loved it when Pakistan was #1 and India was #2. Unfortunately, India exceeded my expectations so I want them to get knocked off their perch before supporting them again. Kohli's transformation and Shami's rise has definitely made them a more likable team than they were a couple of years ago.

 

[Bewal Express]

Ind team looks strong with decent batsman, great batting depth, excellent spinners and good pacers.

 

[GrandMaster]

Vijay
Rahul
Pujara
Kohli (c)
Rahane
Saha/Parthiv (wk) --- Pant is good but should debut in India
Ashwin
Jadeja --- He is a must, good in putting pressure on batsmen, quite economical
Yadav
Shami
Bhuvi/Ishant

 

[Ab Fan]

Anyone who could win 1 game in Aus/SA and draw the series in Eng/NZ..

On an serious note,

For Eng/NZ
Shami
Bhuvi
Ishant

For Aus/ SA
Shami
Ishant
Yadav( Unfortunately)

 

[soso_killer]

Ashwin and Jadeja are both capable with the bat which makes it easy to play 3 seamers.

M. Johnson and Philander are handy with the bat, especially in conditions they are used to (pace & bounce). I wouldn't count/bet on them to chip in with meaningful runs in Asia though.
Same goes for Jadeja and Ashwin, good in Asia but will struggle in swinging conditions.
Kolhi mustn't fall into that trap. Pick specialist batsmen and bowlers or suffer the consequences. Neither Jadeja nor Ashwin is good enough to play as an all rounder in overseas conditions.
Otherwise Kohli will be doing what all Indian captains have done, play two spinners irrespective of the pitch or conditions which hasn't yielded much results.
That wouldn't make him any unique than the rest of the Indian captains over the years. I'm interested to see how he "attacks" under the pump as well. It's easy to do so in your conditions when everything is going well.

 

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M. Johnson and Philander are handy with the bat, especially in conditions they are used to (pace & bounce). I wouldn't count/bet on them to chip in with meaningful runs in Asia though.
Same goes for Jadeja and Ashwin, good in Asia but will struggle in swinging conditions.
Kolhi mustn't fall into that trap. Pick specialist batsmen and bowlers or suffer the consequences. Neither Jadeja nor Ashwin is good enough to play as an all rounder in overseas conditions.
Otherwise Kohli will be doing what all Indian captains have done, play two spinners irrespective of the pitch or conditions which hasn't yielded much results.
That wouldn't make him any unique than the rest of the Indian captains over the years. I'm interested to see how he "attacks" under the pump as well. It's easy to do so in your conditions when everything is going well.

India have never played 2 specialist spinners abroad except on spin-friendly pitches like Sydney. That's one reason why Ashwin was dropped in the last round of overseas tours as Jadeja was preferred for his accuracy and control. India have struggled overseas because they have never had 3 quality seamers bowling together and in form not because they play 2 spinners.