Why are "some" Indians so obsessed with Pakistan?

[Mian]

Title says it all and it's pretty clear if you watch their news channel or movies selling pakistani manjan all the time or their politicians doing campaign during elections based on bashing Pakistan to attract vote bank. Arnab recent market ad wirh the title 'Pakistan's Migraine' was another example.

I am not claiming Pakistanis are not obsessed with Indians but Indians are taking it to a whole new level.

 

[Rayyman]

I was only Pakistani in my class in high school. Around 300 kids probably 100 white, 50 East Asian, 50 Indian, 50 Hispanic, 50 Arabs something like that. Only one black kid and I was lone Pakistani which is quite rare for school in my area. Anyways, I obviously closer to Indians but they neglected me for some reason and so I chilled with the one Bangladeshi kid instead.

So yeah maybe the Indian parents told their kids not to hang with Pakistanis because I was friends with Indians in middle school but got shunned in high school. I think there might be prejudice against Pakistanis from Non-Muslim Indians.

 

[big_gamer007]

Title says it all and it's pretty clear if you watch their news channel or movies selling pakistani manjan all the time or their politicians doing campaign during elections based on bashing Pakistan to attract vote bank. Arnab recent market ad wirh the title 'Pakistan's Migraine' was another example.

I am not claiming Pakistanis are not obsessed with Indians but Indians are taking it to a whole new level.

That is what your news show probably, election campaigns recently have been mostly about development and corruption issues with Pakistan being a minor talking point..

But now elections are over there are 100's of 24/7 news channel they have to survive.. With the recent activities of terrorists in valley the anti pakistan scripts are running on news channel.. Nothing to do with obsession it's just news which sells..

If you ask any normal Indian about Pakistan they have an opinion it's an underdeveloped country where terrorism is straining and people don't have food to eat.. That's the perception of Indians (not all) about Pakistan the country..

 

[Azzurri]

That is what your news show probably, election campaigns recently have been mostly about development and corruption issues with Pakistan being a minor talking point..

But now elections are over there are 100's of 24/7 news channel they have to survive.. With the recent activities of terrorists in valley the anti pakistan scripts are running on news channel.. Nothing to do with obsession it's just news which sells..

If you ask any normal Indian about Pakistan they have an opinion it's an underdeveloped country where terrorism is straining and people don't have food to eat.. That's the perception of Indians (not all) about Pakistan the country..

Haha you guys love to live in a delusional little world, Don't you? Moreover, for your kind information i suggest you to properly look around in your developed India and try to spot billions of hungry Indians on the roads before taking a dig at Pakistanis. I am not trying to troll you or getting amused by this fact but honestly you guys need to calm down and realise that India isn't a first world country by any means. India is even worst than pakistan

 

[ExpressPacer]

That is what your news show probably, election campaigns recently have been mostly about development and corruption issues with Pakistan being a minor talking point..

But now elections are over there are 100's of 24/7 news channel they have to survive.. With the recent activities of terrorists in valley the anti pakistan scripts are running on news channel.. Nothing to do with obsession it's just news which sells..

If you ask any normal Indian about Pakistan they have an opinion it's an underdeveloped country where terrorism is straining and people don't have food to eat.. That's the perception of Indians (not all) about Pakistan the country..

Thats quite the contrary. You guys think we live in such conditions but each and every Pakistan KNOWS the majority of Indians live in poverty-stricken conditions with people even being forced to hunt for rats, unfortunately. I have a genuine question though, why does India choose to spend billions of dollars on space programs to look cool to the world instead of working towards the welfare of its people?

 

[big_gamer007]

Haha you guys love to live in a delusional little world, Don't you? Moreover, for your kind information i suggest you to properly look around in your developed India and try to spot billions of hungry Indians on the roads before taking a dig at Pakistanis. I am not trying to troll you or getting amused by this fact but honestly you guys need to calm down and realise that India isn't a first world country by any means. India is even worst than pakistan

Again you totally misunderstand the point and go on defensive and start talking out of context.. Point is simple a normal Indian has his own life probably same with a normal Pakistani they don't go online and search how standard of living are in Pakistan or how developed Lahore is and stuff like that.. Ocassionally they hear in news about something bad happening in Pakistan and the terrorist camps over there.. So their POV is Pakistan is a poor under developed country.. That is the sad truth even if Pakistan was he most developed country in the world unless someone searches about it online it wouldn't be shown in our media so a normal person in India wouldn't know..

Not sure why you are pointing the faults in India of course we aren't the most developed either I am just giving you a viewpoint of a normal Indian on Pakistan the country.. Do I share this viewpoint? NO but then I read good things about Pakistan on PP other Indians don't.. Get my point?

 

[ExpressPacer]

Again you totally misunderstand the point and go on defensive and start talking out of context.. Point is simple a normal Indian has his own life probably same with a normal Pakistani they don't go online and search how standard of living are in Pakistan or how developed Lahore is and stuff like that.. Ocassionally they hear in news about something bad happening in Pakistan and the terrorist camps over there.. So their POV is Pakistan is a poor under developed country.. That is the sad truth even if Pakistan was he most developed country in the world unless someone searches about it online it wouldn't be shown in our media so a normal person in India wouldn't know..

Not sure why you are pointing the faults in India of course we aren't the most developed either I am just giving you a viewpoint of a normal Indian on Pakistan the country.. Do I share this viewpoint? NO but then I read good things about Pakistan on PP other Indians don't.. Get my point?

Yeah, then you're right.

 

[Azzurri]

Again you totally misunderstand the point and go on defensive and start talking out of context.. Point is simple a normal Indian has his own life probably same with a normal Pakistani they don't go online and search how standard of living are in Pakistan or how developed Lahore is and stuff like that.. Ocassionally they hear in news about something bad happening in Pakistan and the terrorist camps over there.. So their POV is Pakistan is a poor under developed country.. That is the sad truth even if Pakistan was he most developed country in the world unless someone searches about it online it wouldn't be shown in our media so a normal person in India wouldn't know..

Not sure why you are pointing the faults in India of course we aren't the most developed either I am just giving you a viewpoint of a normal Indian on Pakistan the country.. Do I share this viewpoint? NO but then I read good things about Pakistan on PP other Indians don't.. Get my point?

While doing so you guys are obliged to take a dig at Pakistan. I guess that's a necessity for few of our Indian mates here. Anyhow, my comment wasn't directed only towards you but as a whole towards the Indian Troll club on PP. I was increasingly getting frustrated by the new wave of trolls on PP for the last few months hence posted this comment. Nothing personal

 

[big_gamer007]

Thats quite the contrary. You guys think we live in such conditions but each and every Pakistan KNOWS the majority of Indians live in poverty-stricken conditions with people even being forced to hunt for rats, unfortunately. I have a genuine question though, why does India choose to spend billions of dollars on space programs to look cool to the world instead of working towards the welfare of its people?

Read my above reply to the other poster should answer your query..

Regarding spending on space program that is one of the best things about India, to look cool? How old are you 12? Space program is making money launching satellites of other countries at cheaper rate and GPS and weather satellites etc are needed if used properly..

The politics and policies in India or for that matter any sub continent country is mostly corrupt, people don't fight for real issues they fight and protest over quotas and stuff like that.. It's easy to fool the masses it's a shame but that's the reality.. of course I would love to have same healthcare welfare facilities like USA and U.K. But that is never gonna happen in my lifetime.. Have to accept that fact it's a shame really..

 

[CricketCartoons]

Don't know about others, but I don't know and don't care about anything Pakistani. I make it to a point to avoid anything that is remotely related to Pakistan.

 

[big_gamer007]

While doing so you guys are obliged to take a dig at Pakistan. I guess that's a necessity for few of our Indian mates here. Anyhow, my comment wasn't directed only towards you but as a whole towards the Indian Troll club on PP. I was increasingly getting frustrated by the new wave of trolls on PP for the last few months hence posted this comment. Nothing personal

I don't take a dig at Pakistan or Pakistani's for me we are all humans first and if I don't believe in discriminating on basis of religion or country.. Anyways the truth is harsh India and Pakistan can never be friends now atleast for the next 10-15 years.. It won't affect majority of either of us we can carry on with our lives as normal..

 

[ExpressPacer]

Don't know about others, but I don't know and don't care about anything Pakistani. I make it to a point to avoid anything that is remotely related to Pakistan.

You're not related to this thread because you're not Indian.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Read my above reply to the other poster should answer your query..

Regarding spending on space program that is one of the best things about India, to look cool? How old are you 12? Space program is making money launching satellites of other countries at cheaper rate and GPS and weather satellites etc are needed if used properly..

The politics and policies in India or for that matter any sub continent country is mostly corrupt, people don't fight for real issues they fight and protest over quotas and stuff like that.. It's easy to fool the masses it's a shame but that's the reality.. of course I would love to have same healthcare welfare facilities like USA and U.K. But that is never gonna happen in my lifetime.. Have to accept that fact it's a shame really..

Oh please. Best thing? Why else would India do it? There's absolutely no reason why a severely under-developed country should be partaking in a space race. Sooner or later, if India doesn't stop with this, it will meet the same fate as the Soviet Union.

But hey, if that's what you guys want then so be it.

 

[Azzurri]

I don't take a dig at Pakistan or Pakistani's for me we are all humans first and if I don't believe in discriminating on basis of religion or country.. Anyways the truth is harsh India and Pakistan can never be friends now atleast for the next 10-15 years.. It won't affect majority of either of us we can carry on with our lives as normal..

Its only possible if people start to educate their hearts instead of educating just their minds.

 

[big_gamer007]

Oh please. Best thing? Why else would India do it? There's absolutely no reason why a severely under-developed country should be partaking in a space race. Sooner or later, if India doesn't stop with this, it will meet the same fate as the Soviet Union.

But hey, if that's what you guys want then so be it.

Mate I'm no scholar at space program stuff and I'm lazy to search and give you points why it is good so I'll tag couple of knowledgable Indians who love writing posts who can answer that query of yours..
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

I do agree with need to eradicate poverty but the politicians are too corrupt and full their own pockets.. Both space program and eradication of poverty can happen simultaneously IF from top to bottom we had honest people in charge.. If from top 1billion is given for let's say helping poor give daily food by the time it reaches the poor that 1bill would have become 200mill or something..

 

[ExpressPacer]

Mate I'm no scholar at space program stuff and I'm lazy to search and give you points why it is good so I'll tag couple of knowledgable Indians who love writing posts who can answer that query of yours..
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

I do agree with need to eradicate poverty but the politicians are too corrupt and full their own pockets.. Both space program and eradication of poverty can happen simultaneously IF from top to bottom we had honest people in charge.. If from top 1billion is given for let's say helping poor give daily food by the time it reaches the poor that 1bill would have become 200mill or something..

I agree. And the same happens in Pakistan too. Which is why I say, why waste the money into your space programs and pointless Mars explorations when there is going to be corruption even there? At least some of the money would be spent on the millions of people dying of hunger and poverty? Any-who, this is not the crux of this thread so lets not get out of path.

 

[big_gamer007]

But then again, even if we are to accept that Pakistan is sponsoring terrorism in India, you must also agree that India does the same in Pakistan. Be it East Pakistan or Balochistan. There have been countless incidents of Indian agents being caught. How many of such causes have been reported in India? Heck, we even find Indian agents inciting Sindu-desh sentiments in Sindh!

So, lets not get into the blame game, my friend because we both have blood on our hands.

Yea that's how it is our media don't show anyone as sponsoring terrorism in your country.. Doesyoir media show anyone sponsoring terrorism in our country?

Anyways IMO India-Pakistan should have been like USA-Canada but unfortunately we are the way we are so gotta live with it, hardly effects your daily life so no one really cares to get United and demand governments to fix the relations..

 

[IAJ]

Don't know about others, but I don't know and don't care about anything Pakistani. I make it to a point to avoid anything that is remotely related to Pakistan.

Pakpassion...

 

[Zak_Fan]

1) Indian media talks lesser about Pakistan than Pakistani media does about India (things might be comparable after Modi's rise).

 

[IAJ]

1) Indian media talks lesser about Pakistan than Pakistani media does about India (things might be comparable after Modi's rise).

1. How do you know that, source?

 

[ExpressPacer]

Pakpassion...

The irony...

 

[ExpressPacer]

1) Indian media talks lesser about Pakistan than Pakistani media does about India (things might be comparable after Modi's rise).

All Indian media talks about is Pakistan. Our actors, our singers, our bands, our army, our coke studio, our dramas and now even to the extent of our movies which Pakistani media itself doesn't talk about.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Yea that's how it is our media don't show anyone as sponsoring terrorism in your country.. Doesyoir media show anyone sponsoring terrorism in our country?

Anyways IMO India-Pakistan should have been like USA-Canada but unfortunately we are the way we are so gotta live with it, hardly effects your daily life so no one really cares to get United and demand governments to fix the relations..

Had Pakistan and India worked together towards the goal of eradicating poverty, both country's would be quite well off. But we waged war instead.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Pakpassion...

I said remotely. Please read carefully the next time.

 

[Zak_Fan]

1. How do you know that, source?

Observation. Pakistan has gained relevance in Indian media over the years because of a pompous anti-Pak stance from Modi govt, and the recent Kashmir situation.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I said remotely. Please read carefully the next time.

Take some English lessons bro. Using "remotely" actually means that you wouldn't want to do anything with something that has any sort of link to Pakistan even if it is very small.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Both of those are wrong. All Indian media talks about is Pakistan. Our actors, our singers, our bands, our army, our coke studio, our dramas and now even to the extent of our movies which Pakistani media itself doesn't talk about.

You are deluded brother, too deluded.

 

[ExpressPacer]

You are deluded brother, too deluded.

Sure I am. Even CID used to have episodes based on Pakistan lol.

 

[captain crook]

Sure I am. Even CID used to have episodes based on Pakistan lol.

Why do you care to watch those C grade shows bro?

 

[Yossarian]

Title says it all and it's pretty clear if you watch their news channel or movies selling pakistani manjan all the time or their politicians doing campaign during elections based on bashing Pakistan to attract vote bank. Arnab recent market ad wirh the title 'Pakistan's Migraine' was another example.

I am not claiming Pakistanis are not obsessed with Indians but Indians are taking it to a whole new level.

It's replicated on this forum.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Why do you care to watch those C grade shows bro?

I really liked it. I liked the suspense. Plus, we never had anything similar in Pakistan.

 

[JaDed]

Oh please. Best thing? Why else would India do it? There's absolutely no reason why a severely under-developed country should be partaking in a space race. Sooner or later, if India doesn't stop with this, it will meet the same fate as the Soviet Union.

But hey, if that's what you guys want then so be it.

We don't do the space program because its cool,we do it because its the future,it benefits India tremendously and makes us self reliable.

ISRO works well with states for weather updates,positioning and what not.
For defense purposes USA declined to help us during Kargil with GPS,so we got our own,its called be self reliant.
We did the same for Automobile as well.

Such sad comments that you actually think India can afford to show off with "space programs".Look at the minds involved,the days of space show off are long over man,its a business now and one has to be capable to beat SpaceX(USA company which will dominate in the future).ISRO charges for the satellites that it launches ,we don't do it for free off cost.

 

[JaDed]

Let's give an idea about the whole situation, the southern states most of them have their own TV channels and news channels and unless something happens in the LOC they could care least about Pakistan.

The North East India has its own issues with infrastructure and in need of proper development again least bothered about Pakistan,they probably are more interested in what Bangladesh is upto or Myanmar.

Now ,right away lets open the top news media(in whatever terms) from both countries and lets check what news is shared on each country.Check out The Hindu,Indian Express,NDTV,The Wire(centris-Leftist Indian media) and Republic,Times Now,India today and at the same time please open Tribune,Dawn now unless I'm getting a different feed based on location i would say i see more news on India and its celebrities on Pak sites.
(Plz feel free to correct me)

 

[Lonewarrior]

We don't do the space program because its cool,we do it because its the future,it benefits India tremendously and makes us self reliable.

ISRO works well with states for weather updates,positioning and what not.
For defense purposes USA declined to help us during Kargil with GPS,so we got our own,its called be self reliant.
We did the same for Automobile as well.

Such sad comments that you actually think India can afford to show off with "space programs".Look at the minds involved,the days of space show off are long over man,its a business now and one has to be capable to beat SpaceX(USA company which will dominate in the future).ISRO charges for the satellites that it launches ,we don't do it for free off cost.

bro are you sure about that ?

 

[JaDed]

bro are you sure about that ?

Thanks,googled it apparently it was selective till 1999 although they made it available after 2000 but there is no official confirmation from Armed forces.

https://scroll.in/article/807449/how-the-kargil-war-led-india-to-develop-navic-its-own-satellite-navigation-system

 

[Lonewarrior]

Thanks,googled it apparently it was selective till 1999 although they made it available after 2000 but there is no official confirmation from Armed forces.

https://scroll.in/article/807449/how-the-kargil-war-led-india-to-develop-navic-its-own-satellite-navigation-system

hmmm... I think the real story is somewhere in between .... just saying.

 

[JaDed]

hmmm... I think the real story is somewhere in between .... just saying.

I agree,guess bias got the better of me,nevertheless its important to have one and not just for show off.

 

[Muhammad10]

Don't make racist posts. Also, don't discuss other forums on here.

 

[ahmedzee]

I go to indian news outlet like times of india etc, all they talk about is Pakistan and/or cleavage pics of celebs around the world.

 

[ExpressPacer]

We don't do the space program because its cool,we do it because its the future,it benefits India tremendously and makes us self reliable.

ISRO works well with states for weather updates,positioning and what not.
For defense purposes USA declined to help us during Kargil with GPS,so we got our own,its called be self reliant.
We did the same for Automobile as well.

Such sad comments that you actually think India can afford to show off with "space programs".Look at the minds involved,the days of space show off are long over man,its a business now and one has to be capable to beat SpaceX(USA company which will dominate in the future).ISRO charges for the satellites that it launches ,we don't do it for free off cost.

Well, at least I'm glad I was able to get the message across. Whether you think India do it for showing off or not is your opinion because quite frankly, India will never indulge in nuclear war so I don't understand what benefits of GPS will be. Technology is already far ahead to be able to identify soldier positions without massive space programs.

 

[Third_Umpire]

Don't know about others, but I don't know and don't care about anything Pakistani. I make it to a point to avoid anything that is remotely related to Pakistan.

Except this forum, I suppose...

 

[shaz619]

I was only Pakistani in my class in high school. Around 300 kids probably 100 white, 50 East Asian, 50 Indian, 50 Hispanic, 50 Arabs something like that. Only one black kid and I was lone Pakistani which is quite rare for school in my area. Anyways, I obviously closer to Indians but they neglected me for some reason and so I chilled with the one Bangladeshi kid instead.

So yeah maybe the Indian parents told their kids not to hang with Pakistanis because I was friends with Indians in middle school but got shunned in high school. I think there might be prejudice against Pakistanis from Non-Muslim Indians.

That's more of an American problem then anything else, you're not the most civil and intelligent bunch to be honest.

British Indians and Pakistani's get on quiet well more often then not, the cricket brings out the beast in us but beyond that we're very good friends.

 

[shaz619]

Title says it all and it's pretty clear if you watch their news channel or movies selling pakistani manjan all the time or their politicians doing campaign during elections based on bashing Pakistan to attract vote bank. Arnab recent market ad wirh the title 'Pakistan's Migraine' was another example.

I am not claiming Pakistanis are not obsessed with Indians but Indians are taking it to a whole new level.

They are jealous generally, which why they often resort to various uncivil forms of behaviours to make themselves feel better; Pakistan is the barometer for comparison when it comes to greatness across all fields which is why for example they'd want to compare their inferior x, y or z to Pakistan's etc

India yearn for Pakistan's acceptance and always look to emulate the country; their life is defined by trying to be better then Pakistan while Pakistan yearn to be the greatest nation among all, it explains why Pakistan's mentality has ensured excellence while India's has resulted in disappointment.

 

[sjahmed23]

I wonder the same... when you see their news it is all anti-pakistani that makes you hesitant to say you are from Pakistan in front of your Indian colleagues. But when I talk to them, I don't think they really care about Pakistan and seem to generally think on the same level as far as regional politics are concerned.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Don't know about others, but I don't know and don't care about anything Pakistani. I make it to a point to avoid anything that is remotely related to Pakistan.

Except Mangoes.

 

[www787]

Don't know about others, but I don't know and don't care about anything Pakistani. I make it to a point to avoid anything that is remotely related to Pakistan.

Pakpassion

 

[www787]

You meant to say Indian media and Bollywood, not the general population.

 

[Mian]

People like him give me hope!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan and China are not our enemies.<br><br>Our enemies are ignorance and bigotry.<br><br>And they have got us completely surrounded.</p>— Sanjiv Bhatt (IPS) (@sanjivbhatt) <a href="https://twitter.com/sanjivbhatt/status/988398419713675264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[R3verse Swing]

People like him give me hope!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan and China are not our enemies.<br><br>Our enemies are ignorance and bigotry.<br><br>And they have got us completely surrounded.</p>— Sanjiv Bhatt (IPS) (@sanjivbhatt) <a href="https://twitter.com/sanjivbhatt/status/988398419713675264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Is he referring to Pakistanis and Chinese here OR people of India?

 

[Mian]

Is he referring to Pakistanis and Chinese here OR people of India?

People of India. Sanjiv Bhatt is a former Indian Police Service officer from Gujarat. He is known for his role in filing an affidavit in the Supreme Court of India against the Chief Minister of the Government of Gujarat, Narendra Modi, concerning Modi's alleged role in the 2002 Gujarat riots. He claimed to have attended a meeting, during which Modi allegedly asked top police officials to let Hindus vent out their anger against the Muslims.

 

[Pakistanian]

This obsession is working in my favor, so I got no complaints

 

[PakLFC]

Indians albeit not all of them feel that Pakistan still belongs to them. That it is lost land that they have to claim as if our forefathers were not people of the soil like they are. It is best to keep a healthy distance from them as I do at work. They tend to stick with their own group, we do that as well. There are good Indian's as well who agree that we also have the right to our land like they do. Problem is the Indian media who are obsessed with Pakistan, it is ridiculous the kinds of "breaking news" they give on Pak. By comparison Pak media has never been like that at all.

 

[Mian]

Indians albeit not all of them feel that Pakistan still belongs to them. That it is lost land that they have to claim as if our forefathers were not people of the soil like they are. It is best to keep a healthy distance from them as I do at work. They tend to stick with their own group, we do that as well. There are good Indian's as well who agree that we also have the right to our land like they do. Problem is the Indian media who are obsessed with Pakistan, it is ridiculous the kinds of "breaking news" they give on Pak. By comparison Pak media has never been like that at all.

But my question to them is when was the last time Hindustan was united as a country before British rule?

 

[KingKhanWC]

A few reasons.

1. They cant get over the fact Muslims ruled over large parts of India or a long time.

2. Pakistan was created, India was split.

3. Pakistan's being a much smaller nation with smaller armed forces have no fear of India and give back as much as they get.

4. We have a superiour head to head record in Cricket.

 

[cricketjoshila]

People of India. Sanjiv Bhatt is a former Indian Police Service officer from Gujarat. He is known for his role in filing an affidavit in the Supreme Court of India against the Chief Minister of the Government of Gujarat, Narendra Modi, concerning Modi's alleged role in the 2002 Gujarat riots. He claimed to have attended a meeting, during which Modi allegedly asked top police officials to let Hindus vent out their anger against the Muslims.

And he was caught lying and sacked. Supreme court found him exchanging emails with congress party to corner Modi for incentives.

 

[cricketjoshila]

A few reasons.

1. They cant get over the fact Muslims ruled over large parts of India or a long time.

2. Pakistan was created, India was split.

3. Pakistan's being a much smaller nation with smaller armed forces have no fear of India and give back as much as they get.

4. We have a superiour head to head record in Cricket.

1. Seems only you and few pakistanis are obsessed with this. When the fact is that India Pakistan BD all got conquered by foreign forces.

2. By British Parliament. Dont know what that has got to do with any Pakistani.

3. 1971 tells you what happens in a full fledged war. Talk about giving it back when Pak Army can divide India.

4. We have more ICC trophies.

The obessesion on PP with India is because

1. Close to 180mn muslims live in India a fact that goes againist the two nation theory.

2. India created Bangladesh. Took 90k Pakistanis prisoner and destroyed the notion that religion was a binding factor as per the two nation theory.

3. Despite various tries India still controls the rivers flowing to Pakistan and controls Srinagar Jammu and Leh.

4. BCCI is the most powerful board and the richest. It little no value to PCB in bilateral ties.

 

[KingKhanWC]

1. Seems only you and few pakistanis are obsessed with this. When the fact is that India Pakistan BD all got conquered by foreign forces.

2. By British Parliament. Dont know what that has got to do with any Pakistani.

3. 1971 tells you what happens in a full fledged war. Talk about giving it back when Pak Army can divide India.

4. We have more ICC trophies.

The obessesion on PP with India is because

1. Close to 180mn muslims live in India a fact that goes againist the two nation theory.

2. India created Bangladesh. Took 90k Pakistanis prisoner and destroyed the notion that religion was a binding factor as per the two nation theory.

3. Despite various tries India still controls the rivers flowing to Pakistan and controls Srinagar Jammu and Leh.

4. BCCI is the most powerful board and the richest. It little no value to PCB in bilateral ties.

Nice list but I am not all interested in India. I dont watch the IPL, never watch a Bollywood movie, dont care about Indian food, dress or any part of Indian culture. In fact I never visit an Indian forum but only respond to Indians on here. You cant say the same.

 

[PakLFC]

1. Seems only you and few pakistanis are obsessed with this. When the fact is that India Pakistan BD all got conquered by foreign forces.

2. By British Parliament. Dont know what that has got to do with any Pakistani.

3. 1971 tells you what happens in a full fledged war. Talk about giving it back when Pak Army can divide India.

4. We have more ICC trophies.

The obessesion on PP with India is because

1. Close to 180mn muslims live in India a fact that goes againist the two nation theory.

2. India created Bangladesh. Took 90k Pakistanis prisoner and destroyed the notion that religion was a binding factor as per the two nation theory.

3. Despite various tries India still controls the rivers flowing to Pakistan and controls Srinagar Jammu and Leh.

4. BCCI is the most powerful board and the richest. It little no value to PCB in bilateral ties.

We broke you first in 1947 and Muslim's ruled you for a thousand years. What have ICC and Cricket got to do with it? We have won the Hockey WC more times then you and in one to one Cricket matches own you like your Daddy! You have not even produced one fast bowler in your entire history! The idea of Pakistan was never for all Muslim's to move to Pak but only the ones who wanted to or could. Million's died on the way to Pakistan, do you not know that? Many more at the time who wanted to immigrate could not do so for living to far. You are here on our site not the other way round so you are the obsessed one.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We broke you first in 1947 and Muslim's ruled you for a thousand years. What have ICC and Cricket got to do with it? We have won the Hockey WC more times then you and in one to one Cricket matches own you like your Daddy! You have not even produced one fast bowler in your entire history! The idea of Pakistan was never for all Muslim's to move to Pak but only the ones who wanted to or could. Million's died on the way to Pakistan, do you not know that? Many more at the time who wanted to immigrate could not do so for living to far. You are here on our site not the other way round so you are the obsessed one.

Did Pakistan exist before 1947? Lol at you broke India. Both India and Pakistan were created by British Parliament. Read history.


2. Muslims ruling the SC had something to do with Pakistan? Did any Pakistani rule? Anyone? Pakistan too was conquered by muslim invaders. Some of the conquered people converted to islam. So?

3. We have more Hockey olympic medals.

4. We own you and your daddy like 11-0 in WCs.

5. BD was part of Pakistan and separated after a genocide was carried by Pakistan on bengali speaking muslims. Tells you how flawed the idea of united homeland of muslims was.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Did Pakistan exist before 1947? Lol at you broke India. Both India and Pakistan were created by British Parliament. Read history.


2. Muslims ruling the SC had something to do with Pakistan? Did any Pakistani rule? Anyone? Pakistan too was conquered by muslim invaders. Some of the conquered people converted to islam. So?

3. We have more Hockey olympic medals.

4. We own you and your daddy like 11-0 in WCs.

5. BD was part of Pakistan and separated after a genocide was carried by Pakistan on bengali speaking muslims. Tells you how flawed the idea of united homeland of muslims was.

6.The number of threads here on India when only 15-20 indian members are active tells you who is obsessed.

When these Indians with their disrespect towards Pakistan's culture and people disappear then I have no doubt that those threads will disappear as well. If someone knocks on your door then tells you your furniture is tacky and your family is ugly, will you invite them in with a cheery hello or deliver a firm slap to their face?

 

[R3verse Swing]

The reality is that whether India (or HINDUSTAN technically) was the first civilisation in history, 5000 years old, 1000 years old, or 70 years old as per present Indian secular constitution - Pakistan carved India into 2 pieces - and the record reflects this. This is the numeral uno reason why Indians lookup/despise to Pakistan. The second reason, Pakistan has given India a run for their money, in particular, nuclear capabilities. Last but not least as brother [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] has pointed out, Pakistan are ahead in head to head stats in Cricket vs India.

Few individuals significantly alter the course of history. Fewer still modify the map of the world. Hardly anyone can be credited with creating a nation-state. Mohammad Ali Jinnah did all three.

 

[Napa]

I am not claiming Pakistanis are not obsessed with Indians but Indians are taking it to a whole new level.

1. How do you know that, source?

All Indian media talks about is Pakistan. Our actors, our singers, our bands, our army, our coke studio, our dramas and now even to the extent of our movies which Pakistani media itself doesn't talk about.

Problem is the Indian media who are obsessed with Pakistan, it is ridiculous the kinds of "breaking news" they give on Pak. By comparison Pak media has never been like that at all.

A few reasons.

I get to visit India about once a year and spend quite a bit of time there. In my conversations, Pakistan rarely comes up. What is there to talk about Pakistan anyway, unless there is a cricket match between the two countries which doesn't happen very often now. Even on media I can't remember any mention of Pakistan.

The idea that Indians are obsessed with Pakistan doesn't seem to have a minimal touch with reality. But leaving aside my personal experiences, I decided to try to do an objective test. I looked at the 4 leading Indian newspapers and the 4 leading Pakistani newspapers (according to PakWired) for mention of the other country.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/
http://indianexpress.com/
http://www.thehindu.com/

https://www.dawn.com/
https://www.thenews.com.pk/
https://dailytimes.com.pk/
https://nation.com.pk/

Front pagers of Indian newspapers have a total of 5 mentions of Pakistan from about 250 (rough guess) articles.

"Pakistan hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks heart transplant in India" (HT)
"Bikini pics of Pakistani model go viral" (TOI)
"Modi-Xi meet: China reassures Pakistan on ties" (TOI)
"You need strong arms, not smooth arms, on a sports field': former Pakistani cricket captain Sana Mir to young girls" (IE)
"Pakistan hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks heart transplant in India" (TH)

Front pagers of Pakistani newspapers have a total of 16 mentions of India from about 160 (rough guess again, the Pakistani newspapers seem to have fewer articles on their front pages).

"The Modi regime’s intolerance of political opposition and its cavalier attitude is killing Indian democracy" x 2 Neg (Dawn)
"Online myth busters fight tide of fake news in India" Neg (Dawn)
"Ailing Hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks New Delhi's permission for heart transplant in India" (Dawn)
"What India owes to Nehru" Neg (Dawn)
"Indian VP shoots down opposition's impeachment motion against chief justice" (Dawn)
"EXHIBITION: A CONTEMPORARY AWAKENING: An exhibition places the margins of miniature at the centre to give the genre an impetus to grow in India" (Dawn)
"Indian Air Force exercise and its objectives" Headliner Neg (TheNews)
"Leading Indian activist says BJP ideology believes in raping Muslim women" Neg (TheNews)
"Pakistan hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks heart transplant in India" (TheNews)
"Indian filmmaker reveals why Bollywood has not had its #MeToo moment yet" (TheNews)
"Hindu right wing and Jawaharlal Nehru" x 2 Neg (DT)
"Mulasthana’s doomsday — horrors of the 1965 war" (DT)
"Hurriyat calls on India to hold Kashmir talks with Pakistan"(TN)
"MODI DON'T DISTURB 'SURGICAL STRIKES' IN PROGRESS NARINDER MODI" Neg (TN)

So we have 2% of front page articles in Indian newspapers about Pakistan compared to about 10% in Pakistani newspapers about India. It is not even close.

Also, I have marked the articles which have negative news about a country by "Neg". 0% of Indian articles about Pakistan are negative whereas 56.25 (9/16) articles about India are negative in Pakistani newspapers.

Pakistan's obsession about India, and Pakistanis' belief that India negatively obsesses about them has a negative effect on Pakistan. You need to maintain a minimal touch with reality.

Here are snapshots of the top portions of the newpapers' frontpages. Note especially the crazy TheNews.


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[JaDed]

It's a great forum, where broad disucssions happen, but if there is a criteria for Indians not being allowed,mods can let us know.

There is a Pak defense forum too which I couldn't care about, there might be Indians there too but this forum has literally been a place which is a click away for me at all times.

The forum is great not only because you, but because of the ones who made this and keep the posters engaged with almost near perfect strictness, get off your high horse and learn to enjoy various topics that are shared on the forum.

 

[DeadBall]

No posts about why other nationalities are here. Everyone is welcome. Last warning. Keep in mind for future reference.

 

[Napa]

Which is why I say, why waste the money into your space programs and pointless Mars explorations when there is going to be corruption even there?

Space exploration is similar to electricity.

As the story is usually told, the prime minister or some other senior politician was given a demonstration of induction by Faraday. When asked “What good is it?” Faraday replied: “What good is a newborn baby?”

Back in the early 1980s when IITs started teaching Computer Science, someone may has said "why waste money doing this?". 35 years later TCS is valued at over a $100 billion creating much wealth for Indians. Indian poverty in those years has fallen from 61% to 25% according to WHO.

Also, the Indian space program actually generates revenues with multiple satellite launches for countries around the world. The US government actually banned launches on PSLV to protect its domestic industry. ISRO sent Mangalyaan to Mars at a cost of $75M, compared to NASA's Maven which cost $672M.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...bit-costing-just-11-of-nasas-own-mars-mission
https://hbr.org/2014/10/what-the-mission-to-mars-shows-about-indias-innovators

 

[JaDed]

Sweet. Your response proves Pakistanis are way more hospitable and understanding than one can imagine! Your experience on a Pak forum can never supercede the experience of an Indian on an Indian forum (otherwise you'd not be here). You are craving and finding more! The is the equivalent of a supernova.

You are always welcome to the land and people of Pakistan!

It's better than Indians forums ,you could had just asked me that and I would had given you a response.

And the creators/moderators of this forum are fair and hospitable, yes.

 

[PakLFC]

Did Pakistan exist before 1947? Lol at you broke India. Both India and Pakistan were created by British Parliament. Read history.


2. Muslims ruling the SC had something to do with Pakistan? Did any Pakistani rule? Anyone? Pakistan too was conquered by muslim invaders. Some of the conquered people converted to islam. So?

3. We have more Hockey olympic medals.

4. We own you and your daddy like 11-0 in WCs.

5. BD was part of Pakistan and separated after a genocide was carried by Pakistan on bengali speaking muslims. Tells you how flawed the idea of united homeland of muslims was.

6.The number of threads here on India when only 15-20 indian members are active tells you who is obsessed.

Exactly. This means that Pak came about by breaking India. You must have heard off M A Jinnah? Muslim's pre independence had everything to do with Pak, they were our forefathers. The point here is that India was ruled by a Muslim minority for centuries who were our ancestors. You include pre independence Sport success stories as your own, won't allow that. We have ruled Squash and have a better record against you at both Cricket and Hockey, FACT! India has dominated no Sport like we have Squash. The genocide continues in IoK and we also saw it in 1984 and Gujarat, do you deny this?. There was no Pak genocide in 1971 at all. Including your success at WC's we are still way ahead of you at one on one Cricket matches, try harder. Remember the ICC Trophy final last year?. Also, most threads here on India are opened by Indian people themselves!!!

 

[Pakistanian]

No posts about why other nationalities are here. Everyone is welcome. Last warning. Keep in mind for future reference.

Nobody is saying that indians aren't welcome here. The point is that they can't come on Pakistani forum and tell Pakistanis that they're obsessed with them, that's just so ironic.

 

[DeadBall]

Nobody is saying that indians aren't welcome here. The point is that they can't come on Pakistani forum and tell Pakistanis that they're obsessed with them, that's just so ironic.

Anybody, Indians or otherwise can come on this forum and say whatever they want to as long as it is within the established perimeters. Hopefully, it's clear enough for all now.

 

[j_kazmi]

Nobody is saying that indians aren't welcome here. The point is that they can't come on Pakistani forum and tell Pakistanis that they're obsessed with them, that's just so ironic.

They can say whatever they want. Just because some indians come on Pakistani forums doesn’t mean they’re obsessed with us Pakistanis.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

I'd advise all users here to keep this "Indians shouldn't come on this forum" nonsense out of this forum. PP isn't a Galli Mohala forum where outsiders aren't allowed. It's a global forum where we welcome people from all sorts of race, religion, creed and backgrounds. Some of you guys posting nonsense on this thread are about to be handed indefinite bans and suggest keep these shallow and bigotted ideas to yourselves. Such behaviour isn't necessary here. Just because some users are from Pakistan doesn't mean they get to tell our neighbours across the border to leave this forum.

 

[Kashmirilion]

I'd advise all users here to keep this "Indians shouldn't come on this forum" nonsense out of this forum. PP isn't a Galli Mohala forum where outsiders aren't allowed. It's a global forum where we welcome people from all sorts of race, religion, creed and backgrounds. Some of you guys posting nonsense on this thread are about to be handed indefinite bans and suggest keep these shallow and bigotted ideas to yourselves. Such behaviour isn't necessary here. Just because some users are from Pakistan doesn't mean they get to tell our neighbours across the border to leave this forum.

Very well said brother. This is why I love this forum no one is allowed to go overboard, and we can have a sensible convo without resorting to get off this Pakistani forum the diversity and fairness to all makes this the best cricket forum on the internet. I want more posters from all over the world discussing the beautiful game that I love from every cricket playing nation and without our Indian posters how boring woud it be.

 

[gani999]

All Indian media talks about is Pakistan. Our actors, our singers, our bands, our army, our coke studio, our dramas and now even to the extent of our movies which Pakistani media itself doesn't talk about.

From what I can gather on the internet, the Pakistani media is as obsessed, probably more, about India as the other way around.

But I must admit one thing. The Pakistani media is generally more positive about India than what the Indian media is about Pakistan.

 

[gani999]

I'd advise all users here to keep this "Indians shouldn't come on this forum" nonsense out of this forum. PP isn't a Galli Mohala forum where outsiders aren't allowed. It's a global forum where we welcome people from all sorts of race, religion, creed and backgrounds. Some of you guys posting nonsense on this thread are about to be handed indefinite bans and suggest keep these shallow and bigotted ideas to yourselves. Such behaviour isn't necessary here. Just because some users are from Pakistan doesn't mean they get to tell our neighbours across the border to leave this forum.

POTW for me

Thank you [MENTION=146253]AssassinatedDevil[/MENTION]. [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION], [MENTION=146530]DeadBall[/MENTION] and the other admins for making this such a lovely forum.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Don't know why I am obsessed with Pakistan/Pakistanis. Probably because they like to be exclusive and hard to get, and I don't like my presence to go unacknowledged. If there is a Pakistani at a party, my eyes would be following him, while he would not even notice me. They don't respond with the same enthusiasm I have when meeting a Pakistani, as if being an Indian, I am just another person for them. That only makes me more enamoured of them and I try hard to get their attention, if not by pleasing, then by annoying them. Don't share the same feeling with any other nationality. I wonder why.

 

[mankuTimma]

I get to visit India about once a year and spend quite a bit of time there. In my conversations, Pakistan rarely comes up. What is there to talk about Pakistan anyway, unless there is a cricket match between the two countries which doesn't happen very often now. Even on media I can't remember any mention of Pakistan.

The idea that Indians are obsessed with Pakistan doesn't seem to have a minimal touch with reality. But leaving aside my personal experiences, I decided to try to do an objective test. I looked at the 4 leading Indian newspapers and the 4 leading Pakistani newspapers (according to PakWired) for mention of the other country.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/
http://indianexpress.com/
http://www.thehindu.com/

https://www.dawn.com/
https://www.thenews.com.pk/
https://dailytimes.com.pk/
https://nation.com.pk/

Front pagers of Indian newspapers have a total of 5 mentions of Pakistan from about 250 (rough guess) articles.

"Pakistan hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks heart transplant in India" (HT)
"Bikini pics of Pakistani model go viral" (TOI)
"Modi-Xi meet: China reassures Pakistan on ties" (TOI)
"You need strong arms, not smooth arms, on a sports field': former Pakistani cricket captain Sana Mir to young girls" (IE)
"Pakistan hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks heart transplant in India" (TH)

Front pagers of Pakistani newspapers have a total of 16 mentions of India from about 160 (rough guess again, the Pakistani newspapers seem to have fewer articles on their front pages).

"The Modi regime’s intolerance of political opposition and its cavalier attitude is killing Indian democracy" x 2 Neg (Dawn)
"Online myth busters fight tide of fake news in India" Neg (Dawn)
"Ailing Hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks New Delhi's permission for heart transplant in India" (Dawn)
"What India owes to Nehru" Neg (Dawn)
"Indian VP shoots down opposition's impeachment motion against chief justice" (Dawn)
"EXHIBITION: A CONTEMPORARY AWAKENING: An exhibition places the margins of miniature at the centre to give the genre an impetus to grow in India" (Dawn)
"Indian Air Force exercise and its objectives" Headliner Neg (TheNews)
"Leading Indian activist says BJP ideology believes in raping Muslim women" Neg (TheNews)
"Pakistan hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks heart transplant in India" (TheNews)
"Indian filmmaker reveals why Bollywood has not had its #MeToo moment yet" (TheNews)
"Hindu right wing and Jawaharlal Nehru" x 2 Neg (DT)
"Mulasthana’s doomsday — horrors of the 1965 war" (DT)
"Hurriyat calls on India to hold Kashmir talks with Pakistan"(TN)
"MODI DON'T DISTURB 'SURGICAL STRIKES' IN PROGRESS NARINDER MODI" Neg (TN)

So we have 2% of front page articles in Indian newspapers about Pakistan compared to about 10% in Pakistani newspapers about India. It is not even close.

Also, I have marked the articles which have negative news about a country by "Neg". 0% of Indian articles about Pakistan are negative whereas 56.25 (9/16) articles about India are negative in Pakistani newspapers.

Pakistan's obsession about India, and Pakistanis' belief that India negatively obsesses about them has a negative effect on Pakistan. You need to maintain a minimal touch with reality.

Here are snapshots of the top portions of the newpapers' frontpages. Note especially the crazy TheNews.

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This is standard from mainstream Indian media,they normally have neutral/Positive Pakistan news unless there is some aggression from Pakistani side.TOI is so typical as they have Bikini news going viral as news

 

[emranabbas]

definitely obsessed

Bollywood movies will have some sort of reference to Pakistan and it’s usually showing Pakistan in bad light. Mainly those movies related to terrorism

If the scene is related to cricket there defo will be a indo vs Pak match showing where India will the game

Gosh there are even full movies based on Pakistan


Indian news media is also heavily obsessed
Especially cricket related news
Eg. Afridis tweet, aane do series, mauka mauka etc... yet I have not seen such ads or news about Indian players doing so much rounds from the Pakistani side

How ever will agree Pakistani media will go full out if it’s to with defence, security, Kashmir etc.. but seems the general public don’t care

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

One of the problems is that a Pakistan forum will always attract those who have an agenda, and they will usually be those who have a gripe of some sort. Moving away from India, take the example of the very few Afghan posters who come here, one in particular is usually posting anti-Pakistan stuff, but does he represent all Afghans? Not at all, just the ones who have a problem with Pakistan, the rest won't post any more than a Saudi, Iranian or Chinese will. Indians stand out because they come here in large numbers compared to the rest. Many are fine contributors, some come to provoke and they are the ones who will get a like-minded response.

 

[Khan12]

So Olympics gold medal is better then a world cup.

 

[English August]

I get to visit India about once a year and spend quite a bit of time there. In my conversations, Pakistan rarely comes up. What is there to talk about Pakistan anyway, unless there is a cricket match between the two countries which doesn't happen very often now. Even on media I can't remember any mention of Pakistan.

The idea that Indians are obsessed with Pakistan doesn't seem to have a minimal touch with reality. But leaving aside my personal experiences, I decided to try to do an objective test. I looked at the 4 leading Indian newspapers and the 4 leading Pakistani newspapers (according to PakWired) for mention of the other country.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/
http://indianexpress.com/
http://www.thehindu.com/

https://www.dawn.com/
https://www.thenews.com.pk/
https://dailytimes.com.pk/
https://nation.com.pk/

Front pagers of Indian newspapers have a total of 5 mentions of Pakistan from about 250 (rough guess) articles.

"Pakistan hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks heart transplant in India" (HT)
"Bikini pics of Pakistani model go viral" (TOI)
"Modi-Xi meet: China reassures Pakistan on ties" (TOI)
"You need strong arms, not smooth arms, on a sports field': former Pakistani cricket captain Sana Mir to young girls" (IE)
"Pakistan hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks heart transplant in India" (TH)

Front pagers of Pakistani newspapers have a total of 16 mentions of India from about 160 (rough guess again, the Pakistani newspapers seem to have fewer articles on their front pages).

"The Modi regime’s intolerance of political opposition and its cavalier attitude is killing Indian democracy" x 2 Neg (Dawn)
"Online myth busters fight tide of fake news in India" Neg (Dawn)
"Ailing Hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks New Delhi's permission for heart transplant in India" (Dawn)
"What India owes to Nehru" Neg (Dawn)
"Indian VP shoots down opposition's impeachment motion against chief justice" (Dawn)
"EXHIBITION: A CONTEMPORARY AWAKENING: An exhibition places the margins of miniature at the centre to give the genre an impetus to grow in India" (Dawn)
"Indian Air Force exercise and its objectives" Headliner Neg (TheNews)
"Leading Indian activist says BJP ideology believes in raping Muslim women" Neg (TheNews)
"Pakistan hockey hero Mansoor Ahmed seeks heart transplant in India" (TheNews)
"Indian filmmaker reveals why Bollywood has not had its #MeToo moment yet" (TheNews)
"Hindu right wing and Jawaharlal Nehru" x 2 Neg (DT)
"Mulasthana’s doomsday — horrors of the 1965 war" (DT)
"Hurriyat calls on India to hold Kashmir talks with Pakistan"(TN)
"MODI DON'T DISTURB 'SURGICAL STRIKES' IN PROGRESS NARINDER MODI" Neg (TN)

So we have 2% of front page articles in Indian newspapers about Pakistan compared to about 10% in Pakistani newspapers about India. It is not even close.

Also, I have marked the articles which have negative news about a country by "Neg". 0% of Indian articles about Pakistan are negative whereas 56.25 (9/16) articles about India are negative in Pakistani newspapers.

Pakistan's obsession about India, and Pakistanis' belief that India negatively obsesses about them has a negative effect on Pakistan. You need to maintain a minimal touch with reality.

Here are snapshots of the top portions of the newpapers' frontpages. Note especially the crazy TheNews.

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Well done to you for bringing out some objective facts to this discussion. Pretty conclusive I must say and quite consistent with what I have observed myself. Indians' interest in Pak has progressively declined over the past 20 years and I think the trend will continue.