Why can't Pakistan plan for super overs or shortened DRS games?

[mominsaigol]

Something I've noticed that never gets talked about, is that Pakistan is incapable of planning for any rare but possible events that can happen in cricket.

2007 Icc world cup Group stage India vs Pakistan.

Match ends in a tie and at the time to determine wins in such a situation we had Bowl outs. India humilated pakistan dueing the bowl out session where not a single pakistani bowler was able to aim accurately at the stumps?

England vs Pakistan 2015 uae game

England annihilated Pakistan in a super over.

Zimbabwe vs Pakistan 2020-2021

Pakistan only scored 2 runs in a super over and failed misreably

Usa vs Pakistan 2024

Pakistan conceded 19 runs in a super over and failed to reach the target.

The only super over i can think of that Pakistan ever won vs against Australia in 2012.

Similarly Pakistan has usually lost most drs games as well. Only pak vs SA 2022 and Pak vs sa in ct 2017 went in Pak's favour as Sa is the only team that plays a drs situation worse then Pakistan.

In terms of RR, Pakistan is poor at planning and managing it.

In both 2019 and 2023 wc Pakistan failed to qualify for the semi's solely due to the fact that they were behind in RR and had to achieve ridiculous milestones to clear it, Such as scoring 600 against NZ in 2019 and scoring 329 In 7 overs againat England in 2023.

Planning for drs + shortened games, RR, and Super overs are standard norms in international cricket.

So why is Pakistan so poor at it?

 

[Rana]

Pakistan never care about DRS either

The most self entitled white ball cricket nation.

 

[mominsaigol]

Pakistan never care about DRS either

The most self entitled white ball cricket nation.

Unless fakhar pulls a Kiwi Zaman or they happen to face sa in a rain affected game,

Pakiatan usually gets hammered by any side if the game is shortened or if they have to play a super over.

Similarly their by far the poorest side when it comes to managing RR in icc events.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

We like to take the game deep and rain shortened games don't allow our batsman to have jaan pechaan with the opposition bowlers.

 

[emranabbas]

Unless fakhar pulls a Kiwi Zaman or they happen to face sa in a rain affected game,

Pakiatan usually gets hammered by any side if the game is shortened or if they have to play a super over.

Similarly their by far the poorest side when it comes to managing RR in icc events.

Shorter the game the more aggressive you have to play, do you think rizwan and babar can play aggressive cricket?

 

[mominsaigol]

Shorter the game the more aggressive you have to play, do you think rizwan and babar can play aggressive cricket?

Ba/riz can give aggressive speeches in the press and call themselves aggressive t20 bradmans on twitter

 

[stani_pak]

I dont know so im just speculating here

I feel when our team practices

They just have regular net sessions maybe work on some weakenesses and have a basic game plan.

I dont think they ever practice or even have a practice match among each other to work out scenerios such as super over, matches being reduced to 12 or 10 or 5 overs. Match scenerios where you have 2 batsman and 25 are needed in 12 etc..

I know other teams do this and you can see they are well prepared, but when it comes to Pakistan they always look clueless. There is also never plan B or out of the box thinking

Today Pak should have shuffled there batting according to the situation of the match instead they opened with Farhan and Rizwan and Babar to come in at 3.

It comes down to professionalism. Other teams are more professional and look and consider everything, where as Pak it seems just to do things one way.

 

[mominsaigol]

I dont know so im just speculating here

I feel when our team practices

They just have regular net sessions maybe work on some weakenesses and have a basic game plan.

I dont think they ever practice or even have a practice match among each other to work out scenerios such as super over, matches being reduced to 12 or 10 or 5 overs. Match scenerios where you have 2 batsman and 25 are needed in 12 etc..

I know other teams do this and you can see they are well prepared, but when it comes to Pakistan they always look clueless. There is also never plan B or out of the box thinking

Today Pak should have shuffled there batting according to the situation of the match instead they opened with Farhan and Rizwan and Babar to come in at 3.

It comes down to professionalism. Other teams are more professional and look and consider everything, where as Pak it seems just to do things one way.

You're not speculating, You're right on the money. This is exactly what happens at camp

 

[Cricket Warrior]

its not about planning its about skills... do they have any in Pak team who can play like maxwell and stoinis?

 

[stani_pak]

You're not speculating, You're right on the money. This is exactly what happens at camp

Thats a shame but not suprised

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Pakistan team need to organize such overs in practice on hypothetical scenario...Could be useful for them

 

[Kroll]

Mentality thing, seem to panic and are defeated even before first ball is bowled and then come out swinging and swishing at fresh air.

I kinda knew it was going to end one way at the interval also taking into account lack of power hitting.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Pakistan team need to organize such overs in practice on hypothetical scenario...Could be useful for them

And imagine that practice session being led by Mohammad Rizwan.

Sari Mehnat barbaad!

 

[Kroll]

its not about planning its about skills... do thay have any in Pak team who can play like maxwell and stoinis?

Not many teams do. But they can still apply themselves instead coming out like frightened kittens.

They could have tried to pierce the gaps for fours instead of hitting all their shots into the air for easy catches and thus heaping more pressure on the next batsmen.

Once somebody got their eye in after a few balls, then it would have been easier to judge and go for the big shots. No point in tying to do things they're not capable of.

 

[JaDed]

Because they don’t treat it like a profession/science/management but jazba Junoon!

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Pakistan are not good at planning, they usually win with heart not with mind.

 

[Asad T]

This is the case even when it comes to game awareness:
- When Pakistan played India (was it in Melbourne?) a Pakistani bolwer bowled Virat during a free hit, the ball riccoched off the stumps, and India ran 2-3 runs. Pakistan thought it was a dead ball so they didn't bother chasing the ball from the get-go. That could have cost us the game. And it was match-awareness (from India) and our inability to understand the games more intracate rules that cost us the game.

On a similar (yet different note):
- Also, I have never seen a Pakistan player take a catch from outside the boundary rope, throw it back into play, and then take the catch after hopping back inside the boundary. I'm almost certain it is because we don't practice this scenario in our fielding drills. Other teams practice this to no end. Our lack of planning / practice for improbable events screw us.

 

[Mohraheem]

Misbah tuktuk mentality… that’s what’s in there head

 

[The_KING]

Pakistan team don’t have the ability to improvise and think outside the box.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

simple answer is that lack of power hitters

 

[Mohraheem]

simple answer is that lack of power hitters

Tuktuk mentality… PCB needs to remove this tuktuk tactics. . one guy rotates the strike by playing tuktuk and other does power hitting. This will never work …

 

[BouncerGuy]

Pakistan lacks players who are brave like Fakhar Zaman or Shahid Afridi who are not afraid to start hitting from ball number 1.

Pakistan is not gonna win these shortened 7-8 overs game because our batters are not brave.