I think the most popular foreign cricketers in India are (as far as I know): in no particular order
1. AB
2. Gilchrist
3. Afridi
4. Wasim
5. Steve Waugh
6. KP
7. Chris Gayle.
Afridi? Seriously?
Surely not more than Lara, Brett Lee, Murali, etc.
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I think the most popular foreign cricketers in India are (as far as I know): in no particular order
1. AB
2. Gilchrist
3. Afridi
4. Wasim
5. Steve Waugh
6. KP
7. Chris Gayle.
I think the most popular foreign cricketers in India are (as far as I know): in no particular order
1. AB
2. Gilchrist
3. Afridi
4. Wasim
5. Steve Waugh
6. KP
7. Chris Gayle.
If you talk about their playing days no one comes remotely close to Imran 's popularity in India , not even wasim, he was massive . The most popular cricketer in india at the time followed by viv richards who was also very charismatic . At least thats what people like Gavaskar , kapil dev ,Sharmila tagore , Mohinder amarnath , Sanjay manjrekar and Rajdeep sardesai believe.
In pakistan MS dhoni is perhaps the most respected and famous indian cricketer .
Surprisingly Afridi has a bigger fan following in India than sachin has in Pakistan.
Maybe in 80s or 90s. Most of the kids I grew up with knew Wasim, Akhtar and Inzi very well, but hardly anyone had heard of Imran. Even I first heard of him when I started following Pakpassion.
Thats why i said playing days .Maybe in 80s or 90s. Most of the kids I grew up with knew Wasim, Akhtar and Inzi very well, but hardly anyone had heard of Imran. Even I first heard of him when I started following Pakpassion.
I didn't ask him why.
Maybe I did once but I forgot exactly what he said.
I guess the reason was self explanatory.
Political climate was really bad. India Pak games were seen as mini wars.
We should not lose to India/Pak no matter what...was a motto in those times.
So, you heard of Imran, the GOAT Asian cricketer and GOAT allrounder after joining PP?
Were you not interested in cricket earlier?
Probably coz he was captain of the Pak team that thrashed India in many Tests in those days as well as being the man responsible for most of said victories by his performances.
I see a lot of Indian PPers showing their hate for Mohd. Azharuddin, but same cannot be said for Akram. It's like pure love.
I see a lot of Indian PPers showing their hate for Mohd. Azharuddin, but same cannot be said for Akram. It's like pure love.
Love for a player doesn't have logic.
You can throw stats, awards, ratings at someone but if he doesn't have a soft corner for someone, it won't make him love that player (respect sure but not love).
Similarly, if he likes someone, he would like him inspite of all flaws.
Azhar was very well loved by Indians but his antics hurt Indians a lot which is why it turned into hatred.
Wasim Akram's antics never hurt Indians (majority of them don't even know about it) so there isn't much to hate him.
Outside of PP, if Amir performs, he will be loved too by Indians. Many already like him.
Indians hate Azhar coz he betrayed them. Why should they be angry at Akram..
Agree.
On a side note, I have observed that Azhar is hated a lot more than Jadeja, Mongia etc. May be because he was captain of the team.![]()
I'm sure as a cricket lover one will hate any player who has tarnished the game.![]()
Imran was HUUUGE in India is his playing days. esp among females a lot.
How many fans watch the game as a cricket lover..
Azhar was hated more because he was loved very much by the populace as Sif pointed out. Also he was the captain of India as well and one of India's best and most reliable players. So when news broke out, he got more hate.
Imran Khan is considered by many to be the most handsome man to ever play the game.![]()
wasim very popular in BD too. No one ever talked about Waqar, Miandad or Khan ever.
It was Wasim all the way. Had to do with his looks![]()
Agree.
On a side note, I have observed that Azhar is hated a lot more than Jadeja, Mongia etc. May be because he was captain of the team.![]()
Wasim and sachin were the two best cricketers in their sides respectively in the 90s, the two superstars .
Wasim was everything Tendulkar was not . Tall , goodlooking , agressive with a rockstar image , a poster boy of sorts and most importantly a fast bowler the likes of which India had never had .
So this.contrasting personality of the two superstar cricketers could have captured the imagination of the Indian public .
Similarly Dhoni is loved a lot more in Pakistan as well....infact these days I am sure he is loved more by Pakistani fans than the hardcore Indian fans.
Reason being Dhoni is what Pakistan cricket needs from the Sarfaraz's and Kamran Akmals of the world.
Dhoni is a gentleman,has Charisma and an accomplished cricketer all check boxes that Wasim ticks too which makes them that much more loved.
With guys like Inzamam and Sachin....They were great cricketers but they are a little behind in the charisma department......Inzi being a religious guy kept to himself while Sachin was always shy and reserved.
On the other hand likes of Imran and Ganguly have mixed emotions among fans while they have done a lot and contributed for their respective teams....the opposition fans respect them but their smugness comes across as arrogance and fans may all not relate to them.
Then there are guys like Miandad and Kapil Dev...great cricketers and competitors in their playing days,but little dehati(native) in nature which has made them into caricatures.
Next category Dravid and Waqar....both are well respected and more of the silent types...so while they have the respect as cricketers,their personality as normal people is not entirely known....Waqar has opened up a little with hsi commentary and IPL stint while as Dravid too with the way he is communicating with Youngsters may make them popular as well.
Then there are likes of VVS Laxman,Misbah and Younis Khan who keep to themselves and there is only respect and no extreme opinion.
Finally likes of Shoaib Akhtar,Afridi,Sehwag(Post-retirement),Mo Yousuf-They are too becoming caricatures and now are more popular for off-field antics than on-field accomplishments.
For me mainly because I love exciting bowlers and those with great ball skills.
I love Anderson's bowling for the same reason (though I don't like the guy as a person) as he moves the ball like a string attached to it. Wasim used to do it at high pace on all tracks, and had a great bouncer and yorker as well.
I love MJ's bowling at his peak for the same reason (as he is exciting wrt his pace and bounce).
I'm not really a great fan of most Pak batsmen but their bowlers mainly Wasim, as you admire most what you don't have and not what you already have.
Furthermore, he is a very grounded person off the field and very helping of our bowlers as well. Doesn't give verbal diarrhea statements like some of his teammates and carries himself extremely well in the media.
You have to first find the answer that why Kohli is liked by Pakistani fans.
Kohli is miles and miles ahead of every Pakistani batsman and nobody will even attempt to prove that any Pakistani batsman is better than Kohli in any aspect.
Tendulkar did not get the same love because Pakistan had world class batsmen like Anwar, Inzy, Yousuf, etc. Pakistani fans always compared them with Tendulkar and some actually believed that those Pakistani batsmen were better than Tendulkar.
With Kohli and current generation of Pakistani batsmen, it is not even a subject for debate.
Now applying the same theory to Wasim and Indian fans, he is respected because there has not been a single fast bowler in Indian history who was as good as Wasim so there is no other option than accepting his greatness. I am sure, if Srinath was as good as Wasim, we would have seen so many threads bashing Wasim.
Along the same lines, Imran's vs Kapil comes to mind. Even though, Imran was a better cricketer than Wasim without a doubt, he does not get the same love from Indian fans. The reason is simple that India had a very good all-rounder in Kapil Dev who they could compare to Imran.
Similarly Dhoni is loved a lot more in Pakistan as well....infact these days I am sure he is loved more by Pakistani fans than the hardcore Indian fans.
Reason being Dhoni is what Pakistan cricket needs from the Sarfaraz's and Kamran Akmals of the world.
Dhoni is a gentleman,has Charisma and an accomplished cricketer all check boxes that Wasim ticks too which makes them that much more loved.
With guys like Inzamam and Sachin....They were great cricketers but they are a little behind in the charisma department......Inzi being a religious guy kept to himself while Sachin was always shy and reserved.
On the other hand likes of Imran and Ganguly have mixed emotions among fans while they have done a lot and contributed for their respective teams....the opposition fans respect them but their smugness comes across as arrogance and fans may all not relate to them.
Then there are guys like Miandad and Kapil Dev...great cricketers and competitors in their playing days,but little dehati(native) in nature which has made them into caricatures.
Next category Dravid and Waqar....both are well respected and more of the silent types...so while they have the respect as cricketers,their personality as normal people is not entirely known....Waqar has opened up a little with hsi commentary and IPL stint while as Dravid too with the way he is communicating with Youngsters may make them popular as well.
Then there are likes of VVS Laxman,Misbah and Younis Khan who keep to themselves and there is only respect and no extreme opinion.
Finally likes of Shoaib Akhtar,Afridi,Sehwag(Post-retirement),Mo Yousuf-They are too becoming caricatures and now are more popular for off-field antics than on-field accomplishments.
Nah you've got it all wrong people,
is most loved Pakistani batsman in India.
But as of now, AB it is. No one can reach the level of AB in India. Though I feel like current generation of England players are pretty much likable too. Once they start to play more of IPL they might have a chance to overcome AB.
Dada was a batsman .That is an interesting theory but that isn't the case. Sachin's opening partner was everything you mentioned - tall by Indian standards, handsome, aggressive, had a poster boy image (prince of Calcutta and all that) and had a huge ego to boot as well. But Dada's popularity could never reach Sachin's in India.
Great cricketer, and he led a wonderful generation of PAK cricketers. But, main reason is the media boom - young generation had the easy excess to global cricket matches, & commercialisation. Another major reason is people across South Asia are actually much closely bonded than what our politicians feed us.
However, the OP is partially correct - in terms of volume, Wasim indeed is the most popular non Indian Cricketer (not only Pakistani); but he is no where near to Imran, not even close. Imran was more popular than Kapil or Gavaskar, in India.
My elder cousins used to subscribe "Desh" magazine, Sports World, Sports Week & Sports Star back in 80s, which later I read from store room dumps - PTI can endorse me, how much popular Imran was in India those days.
If I take time constant popularity - probably most popular 6 visitors in India are
Imarn
Sir Gary
Viv
Wasim
Sir Ian
Kanhai
Might be wrong with the later positions, but I am fairly sure about the top 3.
AB is loved in India while Pakistan loves the more calm and collected nature of Amla
AB is loved in India while Pakistan loves the more calm and collected nature of Amla
Didn't read all the responses but it's not because of sucking up to us. I think it has got to do with the fact that Wasim was an insanely skilled cricketer who's peak coincided with the cable revolution in India. Here was a Pakistani cricketer who was actually ridiculously talented and good looking unlike the rest of their team and relatively non controversial in terms of media statements and generally friendly towards the Indian team . What is so surprising ? As far as match fixing was concerned, the entire Pakistan team was allegedly involved in fixing on the 90's. It was not like Wasim was a crook and the rest were angels. He was the cricketer most 90's kids associate Pakistan cricket with.
Did not Saqlain have all these traits?
Interesting point. I am well aware of Imran's fanbase in India that was there back in the day, that's why said "even Imran".
Over the years I saw Akram replace Imran as the most Pakistani cricketer in India so much so that even the generation before mine doesn't speak much about Imran.
Akram is considered like our own. You won't find Indians getting jealous of Akram's achievements, his wicket tally, his yorkers, his amazing spells etc. so much so that some times it feels they even take a bit of pride in them...they will defend him even when a Pakistani is criticizing him, never contest his greatness, have no problems putting him in world xis. The ever so stat loving Indians will start using phrases like "magician, talent, mesmerizing etc." to prove Akram was more dangerous than Waqar. Indian batsmen have no problems saying Akram was most difficult to face, or would have made their lives difficult if he was playing in this generation....
It's like he is the "humaara ladka" like he lovingly calls Ishant.
Of course, that's transition of generation.
Those who used to sleep with Imran's posters those days, now spend most of the time in Mandir, Mosque (or in Kitchen or fixing diapers of grandsons/daughters). Already, I see a serial choker is rated higher than Maradona by many & may be 10 years later you'll hear - who was El Diego? In 1986, there was a big group who formed "Church of El Diego" & that's not in Argentina only.
These days you have internet, facebook, tweeter, blogs, charts, IPL ... what not. Imagine 35 years back young people used to steal money, bunk office to see Imran for a glance in Stadium. I read it somewhere, a group of Indian workers (& not Muslims only, Hindus, Parsis & Shikhs as well), rented two bus to come from Nasik & see Imran at Bombay Test, he was injured that time, but was almost forced to play that Test.
Few of my elder cousins actually spend couple of days at BSF custody as they couldn't manage Visa in short time, tried to cross Benapole border before the Neheru Cup Final. And, Anju Mahedra can tell you better, the craze of Gary Sobers .................... compared to that, it's nothing now, nothing, trust me nothing.
Of course, that's transition of generation.
Those who used to sleep with Imran's posters those days, now spend most of the time in Mandir, Mosque (or in Kitchen or fixing diapers of grandsons/daughters). <b>Already, I see a serial choker is rated higher than Maradona by many & may be 10 years later you'll hear - who was El Diego? In 1986, there was a big group who formed "Church of El Diego" & that's not in Argentina only.</b>
These days you have internet, facebook, tweeter, blogs, charts, IPL ... what not. Imagine 35 years back young people used to steal money, bunk office to see Imran for a glance in Stadium. I read it somewhere, a group of Indian workers (& not Muslims only, Hindus, Parsis & Shikhs as well), rented two bus to come from Nasik & see Imran at Bombay Test, he was injured that time, but was almost forced to play that Test.
Few of my elder cousins actually spend couple of days at BSF custody as they couldn't manage Visa in short time, tried to cross Benapole border before the Neheru Cup Final. And, Anju Mahedra can tell you better, the craze of Gary Sobers .................... compared to that, it's nothing now, nothing, trust me nothing.
Of course, that's transition of generation.
Those who used to sleep with Imran's posters those days, now spend most of the time in Mandir, Mosque (or in Kitchen or fixing diapers of grandsons/daughters). Already, I see a serial choker is rated higher than Maradona by many & may be 10 years later you'll hear - who was El Diego? In 1986, there was a big group who formed "Church of El Diego" & that's not in Argentina only.
These days you have internet, facebook, tweeter, blogs, charts, IPL ... what not. Imagine 35 years back young people used to steal money, bunk office to see Imran for a glance in Stadium. I read it somewhere, a group of Indian workers (& not Muslims only, Hindus, Parsis & Shikhs as well), rented two bus to come from Nasik & see Imran at Bombay Test, he was injured that time, but was almost forced to play that Test.
Few of my elder cousins actually spend couple of days at BSF custody as they couldn't manage Visa in short time, tried to cross Benapole border before the Neheru Cup Final. And, Anju Mahedra can tell you better, the craze of Gary Sobers .................... compared to that, it's nothing now, nothing, trust me nothing.
Wasim's popularity went up after he started doing commentary for Star Sports. Remember the Shaz and Waz show on Star during our 2003-04 tour to Aus. It was a huge hit.
And from then on, Wasim Bhai has kept going to greater stardom among Indian fans. Fans respect him for his frank views on commentary. He's someone fans can easily relate to as during his commentary he doesn't try to come across as an 'elite'. IPL coaching stint and regular appearances on talk shows with his family has only helped him gain more fans.
Does that church have Maradona's hand of God?
This is something I've wondered about because Wasim has always been admired and 'loved' here. This is way before he even took up commentary stints or joined KKR.
In fact, he got those commentary stints etc because of the respect he had earned here. It's not the other way around which is what quite a few Pakistanis get wrong about him and India.
The affection for him has even been above that for Imran probably because the latter came across as jingoistic sometimes. Sadly Waqar isn't treated with the same respect and I think it has to do with the unfortunate one-off that Jadeja had against him.
Wasim was also a genuine champion cricketer in the sense that he played hard but didn't have any problem giving credit to the opposition. Still recall his genuine congratulations to Kumble after the 10-fer, something Waqar didn't display at the time.
Wasim refused to recall Tendulkar after he was runout when Akhtar decided to stick himself in Sachin's way. But no one held that against him because he was always gracious off the field in his liberal praise of Sachin. This at a time when India wasn't of any use financially to him.
Fans notice these small things and respect it I guess.
Fascinating.
Amitabh married Calcutta girl Jaya in 1973, then Jamai Babu visited his in laws City, CP (Calcutta Police) was called to manage crowd at Damdam. ........................ few years back, CP was again asked for over time, when Asif Iqbal's team landed there for Eden Test.
Now, I am living my 2nd career in Canada - doing office, helping wife for house keeping, looking after kids as I don't have any social life here; so you see me lot in PP & I have some knowledge of PAK cricket. If I were in my Social life (& status) of Dhaka, I won't had been able to recognise half of these pathetic bunch, hardly anyone would have made the B team of 80s & 90s.
Politics & security has not much in it - not many Indian would have paid money or time to watch current PAK team. It's not only cricket or result, but it's the cricket that Misbah/Azhar/Afridi's team play, has lot to do with BCCI's stance. This PAK side actually irritates me more than any thing else - no quality, style or passion, in fact no class. Bring Zaheer, Javed, Imran, Wasim, Saeed, Waquar, Qadir, Inzi, Mazid, Shoaib, Razzak or even Asif Iqbal, Sarfraz, Sohail or Wasim Raja - BCCI Chief would have run to New Delhi twice a week for approval of IND-PAK Series.
And, lots of credit goes to PCB for that - hatched the golden eggs, but didn't feed the hen; now left with bones & feathers.
Amitabh married Calcutta girl Jaya in 1973, then Jamai Babu visited his in laws City, CP (Calcutta Police) was called to manage crowd at Damdam. ........................ few years back, CP was again asked for over time, when Asif Iqbal's team landed there for Eden Test.
Now, I am living my 2nd career in Canada - doing office, helping wife for house keeping, looking after kids as I don't have any social life here; so you see me lot in PP & I have some knowledge of PAK cricket. If I were in my Social life (& status) of Dhaka, I won't had been able to recognise half of these pathetic bunch, hardly anyone would have made the B team of 80s & 90s.
Politics & security has not much in it - not many Indian would have paid money or time to watch current PAK team. It's not only cricket or result, but it's the cricket that Misbah/Azhar/Afridi's team play, has lot to do with BCCI's stance. This PAK side actually irritates me more than any thing else - no quality, style or passion, in fact no class. Bring Zaheer, Javed, Imran, Wasim, Saeed, Waquar, Qadir, Inzi, Mazid, Shoaib, Razzak or even Asif Iqbal, Sarfraz, Sohail or Wasim Raja - BCCI Chief would have run to New Delhi twice a week for approval of IND-PAK Series.
And, lots of credit goes to PCB for that - hatched the golden eggs, but didn't feed the hen; now left with bones & feathers.
That's a nice little fantasy you have there. The reason there is no Ind-Pak series is because the current generation Indian fans don't really care about that.
You seem to be in awe of these names fair enough but
Abdul Razzaq, Abdul Quadir,Sarfaraz Nawaz really???)
He said the same thing. Didn't he?
He said the same thing. Didn't he?
Even if those players had still played, the situation would remained the same. Its not about the quality of cricket they play that's affecting the series rather there's too much negativity surrounding the two countries. India still plays a lot of cricket against the likes of Bangla, Zimbabwe despite the severe lack of quality.
Not true, most of the Pakistani fans rate AB a better ODI player than Amla and Amla as a better test player than AB which is entirely true.
The current generation of Pakistani fans like more graceful on-field personalities.
I think this is the main reason, a lot of Pakistani fans like players like Amla, Kallis, Dravid, Murali, Sangakarra, Williamson, etc.
Basically because of two deliveries in the '92 WC Final. And because he was more "talented" than his peers.
Heart over head stuff.
Imran and Wasim are both loved in India.
I like Wasim Akram because he is so desperate to be in india and always supporting us. I find most of the present and past pakistan players clueless nonsense talkers..But i personally respect guys likes of Inzimam, Hanif Mohammad and Wasim.