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Why is Asad Shafiq given the golden boy treatment in ODIs?

terrible player

Pakistan batting is so shocking we have to persist with this feeble player ? he has a 30 average in domestic cricket !

there are plenty of players with much better averages who open the innings rather than hide in middle order like he does

Amar786 said:
Asad Shafiq hasnt done nothing for pakistan in his 26 innings he has played got an average of 29.20 and a strike rate of 68. And people still want him in our odi side.

Do you want to know when he scored his 5 half centuries:

78 not out against Zimbabwe chasing 151
71 of 102 balls out against West Indies batting first
61 not out against West Indies chasing 222
51 not out against Zimbabwe bating first
50 aginst England batting first

Asad Shafiq should be dropped he bats at number 3 but still cant get a big score. And Asad Shafiq supporters critcise Umar akmal that he cant score big when he bats at number 6 and Asad shafiq who has all the overs in the world to bat but still cant score big.

Asad Shafiq supporters wanted Farhat to be dropped in order to get Shafiq in the side at the start of the England ODI series. But what has Shafiq done either if farhat deserves to be dropped so does Asad Shafiq.

Asad Shafiq supporters accuse Umar Akmal of being a player who scores 30/40 runs but i want tell Shafiq supporters that Shafiq cant score 30/40 Runs even. Shafiq scores it in a blue moon to.

Out of 26 innings shafiq crossed the run mark of 30 only 10 times.
On top of that his strike rate is poor even in the innings he crossed the 50 run mark.
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One thing is for certain, Umar Akmal is 10 times the batsman Asad is right now. Umar needs to be in the top order in both Tests and ODIs ASAP.
 
People are being too harsh on Shafiq. Do you realize what a torture it is and how pressurizing it is to be made to bat alongside Younis and Misbah in ODI's? The guy used to get the final game of a tour to cement his place, or he has to bat in pressure situtions when the team has lost wickets or the seniors are busy tuk tuking while he has to deal with the pressure of the rising run rate.

If you watch Shafiq's ODI knock against England in the 2nd ODI, you will see he does rotate the strike and has the ability to play the big shots once set. There is a huge world of a difference batting with YK/Misbah and batting with Yousaf. He needs to be persisted with . I rate him a more promising option in ODI's compared to Azhar Ali whom i feel is strictly a test batsman.
 
there are much bigger problems in the team than shafiq, they need to fix those first, shafiq can wait
 
Inziquicksingle said:
Come on Looney, lets not kid ourselves. He hasn't "proved anyone wrong" in Tests as of yet. He averages a very mediocre 37 in Tests. This is like borderline acceptable even for Pakistan. Proving everyone wrong is when the guy is consistently scoring runs and makes a few big ones. Zero hundreds and averaging 32 if you remove Bangladesh is pretty unimpressive. I'm not saying drop him, but he has a LOT to prove.

His ODI record is poor and honestly plays like a phattu. This is not his fault because like you pointed out he is dropped often. Another reason is his kuptaan is a bigger phattu.

So basically a very average start to his career, can still be a good player, I hope.
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Anyone who is picked and dropped for strange reasons , do you reckon he will go on to become the next Ricky Ponting ? If any player is picked for Pakistan , no matter how mediocre or great , give them games to play for a couple of series before jumping to any conclusion about them or do not include them at all if they have not earned the chance .
 

Details of Matches played by Asad Shafiq


1. Asia Cup against Bangladesh: Scored 17 of 11 balls SR 89.47 playing @ no 4: Got 1 match in failed in this match.

2. 1st ODI England series: Scored 19 of 10 balls SR 190.00 playing @ no 7. This was a 41 overs aside match Pakistan needed 83 runs of last 8 overs when Shafiq came to crease.

3. 2nd ODI England series: Scored 50 of 58 balls SR 86.20 playing @ no 4. Came into bat in 26th over after Pakistan lost two quick wickets after a 122 opening stand batted till 44.1 overs.

4. 3rd ODI England series: Scored 40 of 59 balls SR 67.79 playing @ no 3. Score was 8-2 in 2.4 overs when Asad came to bat and played till 24.2 overs. Shared a 64 runs partnership with Fawad Alam.

5. 4th ODI England series: Scored 11 of 18 balls SR 61.11 playing @ no 3: 4th ODI England Series. Failed in this match.

6. 5th ODI England Series: Got a duck in this match playing @ no 3: 5th ODI England Series. Failed in this match.

7. 1st ODI South Africa Series: Scored 19 of 36 balls SR 52.77 playing @ no 1. Played as an opener in this match unable to contribute.

8. 2nd ODI South Africa Series: Scored 1 of 10 balls SR 10.00 playing @ no 1. Played as an opener in this match unable to contribute.

9. 3rd ODI South Africa Series: Scored 43 of 74 balls SR 58.10 playing @ no 4. Came into bat when the score was 13-2 in the 7th over played till 34th over before being run out. He did his job as Pakistan was chasing a target of 229. No big hitting was required.

10. 4th ODI South Africa Series: Scored 36 of 48 balls SR 75.00 playing @ no 4. Came to the crease in 10th over after a good start 64-2. Played till 23rd over before being run out again this time a unfortunate. Partnership of 56 Run between Younis Khan (19) and Asad Shafiq (36). Was not played in the 5th ODI of the series as Pakistan played Mohammed Yousuf in his place who just came to UAE for taking part in the tests.

11. 1st ODI New Zealand Series: Scored 4 of 12 balls SR 33.33 playing @ no 4. Unable to contribute in this match.

12. 6th ODI New Zealand Series: Scored 26 of 35 balls SR 76.92 playing @ no 5. Given chance to play after being dropped for 4 matches. Came to the crease in 12th over 58-3. Played till 24th over before being run out again unfortunately Kamran did not respond to the call and Asad had to run back to the crease but was short and got out. Shared a partnership of 74 runs with Kamran Akmal(45) Asad Shafiq (26).

13. World cup match Zimbabwe: Scored 78* of 97 balls SR 80.41 playing @ no 3. Did not feature in the first 4 games Pakistan played. Was given chance in the team as top order failed in the previous 4 games. Came to the crease in the 4th over and played till the end as Pakistan was chasing a score of only 151.

14. World cup match Australia: Scored 46 of 81 balls SR 56.79 playing @ no 3. Came to the crease in the 3rd over and played till the 32nd over. Pakistan was chasing a target of 177 so no need to go bashing. When he got out Pakistan needed just 39 from 18 overs with 5 wickets remaining.

15. World cup Quarter Final West Indies: DNB in the as Pakistan won by 10 wickets

16. World Cup Semi Final India: Scored 30 of 39 balls SR 76.92 playing @ no 3. Came to the crease in the 9th over and played till the 24th over. Got out to the wrong shot.

17. 1st ODI West Indies Series: Scored 61 of 76 balls SR 80.26 playing @ no 3. Came to the crease in the 13th over and played till the end taking the team to victory.

18. 2nd ODI West Indies Series: Scored 23 of 37 balls SR 62.16 playing @ no 3. Was playing ok before being run out and this time also not his fault.
33.2 Martin to Ahmed Shehzad, OUT, Shafiq is run out Or is he? It was pushed to point region and Shehzad sets off for the run before he changed his mind. Shafiq had rushed too far across. The fielder came in from backward point and threw to the bowler. Martin lunges to his left to collect it but here begins the drama. He reaches to break the stumps but he missed it! he then lunged again to find the stumps and the bail just about lifted before the bat came inside the crease. It appeared very close. Out is the verdict

19. 3rd ODI West Indies Series: Got a duck in this match playing @ no 3. Failed in this match.

20. 4th ODI West Indies Series: Scored 71 of 102 balls SR 69.60 playing @ no 3. Came to the crease in the 5th over and played till the 38th over. Shared a partnership of 153 with M Hafeez (77) & Asad Shafiq (71). Did not play in the 5th ODI of the series.

21. 1st ODI Ireland Series: Scored 4 of 12 balls SR 33.33 playing @ no 3. Came to the crease requiring 5 runs to win. Didn’t played the next ODI as Azhar Ali was given chance @ no 3

22. 3rd ODI Zimbabwe Series: Scored 51 of 72 balls SR 70.83 playing @ no 3. Came to the crease in the 7th over and played till 34th over. Shared a partnership of 97 with Younus Khan (55) & Asad Shafiq (51). Did not play in the first 2 ODIs of the series.

23. 5th ODI Sri Lanka Series: Scored 26 of 38 balls SR 68.42 playing @ no 2. Played as an opener in this match chasing a target of 218 so no need to go on bashing. Did not play in the first 4 games of the series got the chance only 1 match this series.

24. 3rd ODI Bangladesh Series: Scored 7 of 23 balls SR 30.43 playing @ no 2. Again got a chance in the last ODI of the series. Unable to contribute.

25. Only ODI Afghanistan: Scored 20 of 21 balls SR 95.23 playing @ no 3. Got out early this game. Unable to contribute.

26. 1st ODI England series: Got a duck in this match playing @ no 3. Failed in this match.

27. 3rd ODI England Series: Scored 18 of 39 balls SR 46.15 playing @ no 3. Unfortunate run out again. Unable to contribute in this game.
21.5 Swann to Asad Shafiq, OUT, 82.4 kph, all happening, appeal for lbw, turned down, and now a run out chance and given by the third umpire. It ran off the pad into the leg side, Cook came in and through back to Kieswetter who removed the bails and Shafiq's bat bounced in the air as he slid back in, unfortunate perhaps but he's gone.

This guy deserves a proper chance on regular basis @ his batting position i.e. no 3 ( this is the batting position he plays in domestic). This is the same guy who played innings of 50 & 40 on English pitches against England bowling attack. He always try to play according to situation required.
 
I would keep him and Fawad Alam in the rotation, I don't think he is good enough to be a regular, and he has had quite a few chances.

However, there aren't that many options available.
 
Asad Shafiq is a class act.

Truth is him and Umar Akmal need to exposed to more balls in ODIs - alongside Fawad Alam.

these three men are our run a ball score makers in this format.

our 3,4 and 5.
 
Should be given a long run in side at number 3 or 5, if we can persist with a failure like YK for 200+ ODIs then why not give others chances as well...
 
Openers to Introduce:
Ahmad Shehzad
Nasir Jamshed
Afaq Raheem
Shehzaib Hasan

Middle Order Players:
Azhar Ali
Umer Akmal
Asad Shafiq
Fawad Alam
Usman Salahuddin
Haris Sohail

Allrounders:
Hammad Azam

Bowlers:
Rahat Ali
Mohd Talha
Bilawal Bhatti
Raza Hasan

All of these players need to be introduced to International cricket in this year.
 
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Excellent batting Asad! Keep it up. Good positive strokeplay and more importantly strike rotation. Hope your captain can learn.
 
Inziquicksingle said:
Stop posting nonsense Shahrukh, if you read that post carefully you will see I haven't said anything wrong. He has performed today and he should be in the team now.
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bro, you wanted him to be dropped based on one bad series.....

No player is dropped on the bases of one bad series, every player has one bad series.....
 
shahrukh619 said:
bro, you wanted him to be dropped based on one bad series.....

No player is dropped on the bases of one bad series, every player has one bad series.....
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I didn't say anything about one bad series. I looked at his career stats and he has clearly not been anything more than mediocre, and this was mostly against minnows, unless an average of 27 and SR of 68 is good.

Based on this I said he should be given ONE MORE CHANCE and then asked to sort out his batting. I also said "So basically a very average start to his career, can still be a good player, I hope."

He has played really positively today which is a refreshing sight to watch. Lets hope Misbah learns.
 
shahrukh619 said:
bro, you wanted him to be dropped based on one bad series.....

No player is dropped on the bases of one bad series, every player has one bad series.....
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Arz hai :

Pal bhar mein tamam umer ki sochein badal jati hain
Jin rahon per chaltey hain wohi, rahein badal jati hain

:shafiq
 
Shafiq is the most best, stylish and awsomest player ever!!! dammit all! Did you see him wear that haiwaan shirt?!!

Nobody can pull of the haiwaan shirt and HE DID DAMMIT!!
Have you seen him run with his little legs?!!
I swear if they were a foot longer he would be faster than Usain Bolt!!!
 
here is asads white face.
roryhamiltonbrown.jpg
 
The thread Starter is absent

Had Shafiq been out cheaply he would have been all over this thread
 
VTEC said:
The thread Starter is absent

Had Shafiq been out cheaply he would have been all over this thread
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This is the problem with most of the Asad and Umar fans.
When either Asad or Umar fails, opposite sets of fans act as he is the biggest tragedy in Pakistan cricket.
 
Sad to see such fans tbh

i mean both lads are playing for Pakistan and both playing in Merit unlike Malik and Farhat
Both are also aspiring Youngsters unlike YK

And u cant say either of these guys are Minnow Bashers like Hafeez
 
VTEC said:
Sad to see such fans tbh

i mean both lads are playing for Pakistan and both playing in Merit unlike Malik and Farhat
Both are also aspiring Youngsters unlike YK

And u cant say either of these guys are Minnow Bashers like Hafeez
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Umar Akmal averages 38 for Pak and has been our highest scorer with the most 50+ scores since he made his debut.

Shafiq averages 28 with a SR of 70.

Umar Akmal get so much unreasonable hate compared to his stats. Easily our best batsman.
 
VTEC said:
Sad to see such fans tbh

i mean both lads are playing for Pakistan and both playing in Merit unlike Malik and Farhat
Both are also aspiring Youngsters unlike YK

And u cant say either of these guys are Minnow Bashers like Hafeez
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well said vtec..

Farhat, Malik, and Adnan are proof of corruption,nepotism. Until this continues(and it will continue unless our country as a whole turns different), I have no hope of our cricket improving.

It will be the same old story of so much talent being able to keep the fans interested. But no professionalism and no merit has in the past and always will keep the setup ruined.
 
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Umar Akmal averages 38 for Pak and has been our highest scorer with the most 50+ scores since he made his debut.

Shafiq averages 28 with a SR of 70.

Umar Akmal get so much unreasonable hate compared to his stats. Easily our best batsman.
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Can argue there i also firmly believe Umar is our Best ODI batsman

If only he can control his brain farts -.-
 
Inziquicksingle said:
Umar Akmal averages 38 for Pak and has been our highest scorer with the most 50+ scores since he made his debut.

Shafiq averages 28 with a SR of 70.

Umar Akmal get so much unreasonable hate compared to his stats. Easily our best batsman.
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I dont know why umar vs shafiq/azhar thread always comes up....All three of them are young in their careers umar is the most talented of the lot but no reason to attack on other boys to prove his worth...

i think umar gets more reaction from people because of his great talent which he is not utilizing very well and the blame goes to him and the management equally..
 
VTEC said:
Can argue there i also firmly believe Umar is our Best ODI batsman

If only he can control his brain farts -.-
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brain farts is there tradition. Plus he needs to be about 30 yrs old to have the kind of mature sense tocurb away from a tradition so strong.
 
I've always said Shafiq was a positive batsman. Top knock MashaAllah and I hope it's a matchwinning one InshaAllah. Pak's eventual total a disappointing one though
 
so people still think Shafiq can't hit boundaries? lol He hit some glorious 4s which were a treat to watch...and were NOT slogs through the line to mid wicket and mid on...like in most cases with Umar Akmal when he is in his Akmal mode.
 
Batted well today, it was a shame he didnt go on to score a hundred.
 
But he still can't play the short pitched ball remember ?
He must watch videos of K.Akmal, Farhat, Malik playing the short ball NOW and LEARN how to hook and pull the cricket ball.
 
*syed59* said:
But he still can't play the short pitched ball remember ?
He must watch videos of K.Akmal, Farhat, Malik playing the short ball NOW and LEARN how to hook and pull the cricket ball.
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Don't care about the short ball.He needs to have at least 1 six per innings if he wants to be a part of our ODI team .We can't have his boring Test match batting in ODI's .Such a tuk tuk player.
 
from_da_lost_dim3nsion said:
Don't care about the short ball.He needs to have at least 1 six per innings if he wants to be a part of our ODI team .We can't have his boring Test match batting in ODI's .Such a tuk tuk player.
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Don't worry the kiddie brigade will be back the minute he does not score in ODI/test match. They don't understand talent and resolve which makes both Azhar and Asad good batsman. Umar Akmal has more talent than both of them but God forgot to give him a brain.
 
Asad Shafiq should still be dropped from ODI team and squad

I know he has scored good runs today with a good strike rate (65 runs on 78 balls with 83 strike rate). But this match is a dead rubber so no pressure. And Pakistan is playing England's B team today. And Asad Shafiq still did not complete his job and scored a hundred after getting a start. He is still the 2nd least talented batsman in this ODI squad. And Pakistan ODI team needs better batsmen than him. Ramiz Raja also do not rate Asad Shafiq in ODIs at all.
 
Misbah needs you in the field right now , Umar , or are you the other Akmal ? :kami
 
jy1970us said:
I know he has scored good runs today with a good strike rate (65 runs on 78 balls with 83 strike rate). But this match is a dead rubber so no pressure. And Pakistan is playing England's B team today. And Asad Shafiq still did not complete his job and scored a hundred after getting a start. He is still the 2nd least talented batsman in this ODI squad. And Pakistan ODI team needs better batsmen than him. Ramiz Raja also do not rate Asad Shafiq in ODIs at all.
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What's your opinion of Azhar Ali?
 
jy1970us said:
I know he has scored good runs today with a good strike rate (65 runs on 78 balls with 83 strike rate). But this match is a dead rubber so no pressure. And Pakistan is playing England's B team today. And Asad Shafiq still did not complete his job and scored a hundred after getting a start. He is still the 2nd least talented batsman in this ODI squad. And Pakistan ODI team needs better batsmen than him. Ramiz Raja also do not rate Asad Shafiq in ODIs at all.
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U shud apply for job of chief selector. :zaka
 
Shayan said:
What's your opinion of Azhar Ali?
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Azhar Ali is a lot better batsman than Asad Shafiq.
Out of these 4 players (YK, Asad Shafiq, Misbah and Azhar Ali), only one should be in ODI team and that should be Azhar Ali.
 
He is still the 2nd least talented batsman in this ODI squad
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Runs Scored > Talent

And Finn was bowling today
the same guy who knocked over the batting line up 3 Times
 
And of all people , you tell us what :raja thinks of Shafiq ? The less said about his own batting , the better . He even keep changing his opinion during commentary . Mohammad Yousuf thinks Shafiq is one of the best batsman from Pakistan and Waqar Younis also thinks highly of him .
 
jy1970us said:
dont forget its a dead rubber
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So what ? If Pakistan win , it will be 3 - 1 to ENG . Looks a bit more respectable than 4 - 0 to ENG , if you ask me . You had lost your argument in your 1st sentence of your thread anyway .
 
Looney said:
And of all people , you tell us what :raja thinks of Shafiq ? The less said about his own batting , the better . He even keep changing his opinion during commentary . Mohammad Yousuf thinks Shafiq is one of the best batsman from Pakistan and Waqar Younis also thinks highly of him .
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In cricket world opinion of Ramiz Raja counts a lot more than Mohammad Yousuf or Waqar Younis. Ramiz Raja is continuously on panels analyzing other players so when he says something about Asad Shafiq it should be given more importance.
 
jy1970us said:
In cricket world opinion of Ramiz Raja counts a lot more than Mohammad Yousuf or Waqar Younis. Ramiz Raja is continuously on panels analyzing other players so when he says something about Asad Shafiq it should be given more importance.
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Moyo seen him play personally, has also played alongside him. Waqar has coached him, so no one knows more than Waqar.

on a side note, I'd like an IP address check for this user. :amir
 
Looney said:
So what ? If Pakistan win , it will be 3 - 1 to ENG . Looks a bit more respectable than 4 - 0 to ENG , if you ask me . You had lost your argument in your 1st sentence of your thread anyway .
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dead rubber means there is lot less pressure on the players to perform. In 1st and 3rd ODI there was real pressure and Asad failed. In 4th ODI there was no pressure and Asad passed (although he failed in converting his start into a 100). That tells me Asad most likely will not perform when there is real pressure.
 
jy1970us said:
dead rubber means there is lot less pressure on the players to perform. In 1st and 3rd ODI there was real pressure and Asad failed. In 4th ODI there was no pressure and Asad passed (although he failed in converting his start into a 100). That tells me Asad most likely will not perform when there is real pressure.
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someone missed the test series :sadaf
 
dead rubber means there is lot less pressure on the players to perform. In 1st and 3rd ODI there was real pressure and Asad failed. In 4th ODI there was no pressure and Asad passed (although he failed in converting his start into a 100). That tells me Asad most likely will not perform when there is real pressure.
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First Match was 1 Ball Duck and a really good delivery

Second Match = Dropped

Third match was a controversial Run Out

Name one Series where Asad was played Consistently at a Postion?

Tell me how many Games he played in the ODI Series vs SL ZIM and BAN
 
jy1970us said:
dead rubber means there is lot less pressure on the players to perform. In 1st and 3rd ODI there was real pressure and Asad failed. In 4th ODI there was no pressure and Asad passed (although he failed in converting his start into a 100). That tells me Asad most likely will not perform when there is real pressure.
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and who scored under real pressure in tests?? your dad??
 
jy1970us said:
dead rubber means there is lot less pressure on the players to perform. In 1st and 3rd ODI there was real pressure and Asad failed. In 4th ODI there was no pressure and Asad passed (although he failed in converting his start into a 100). That tells me Asad most likely will not perform when there is real pressure.
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So going by your logic Umer Akmal is the worst batsman in the team cause he couldn't score even in a Dead rubber which had no pressure
 
jy1970us said:
please
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Ur saying Azhar Ali>> Asad Shafiq in ODIs

In all honesty I can not agree with that. Please if you have personal vendettas against certain ppl juss cuz they dint give ur son/daughter an autograph no need to take it out on Pakpassion.

Shafiq is here to stay in the ODI team for a while. Him and Umar Akmal will form the nucleus of the middle order. So learn to deal with it rather than make silly,useless threads that instigate guys on pakpassion to argue with u.
 
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