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Why Is Patriarchy Seen As A Bad Thing?

Nope.

If a father or a big brother guides a daughter/sister, that's not oppression.

A father or big brother can guide without the need of patriarchy. No one is denying them that. But what happens when there isn't a meeting of minds?

Oppression can happen sometimes but that's not the fault of patriarchy.

The chances of oppression of far greater in a patriarchal society because the father and big brother are pressured, coercing corrective behaviour and wife/daughter/sister compelled to concede. This is where patriarchy is at fault as much as the individual.
 
LOL. You are comparing father-daughter relation with Palestine-Israel issue. No comparison whatsoever.

It is the power dynamic at play that I am comparing. Aside from the fact that father/daughter is not the only relationship at play in patriarchy, at societal level men have power over women. Zionist have power of the Palestinians and those that live under benevolent Zionism have much better life outcomes than those who want to choose unlimited freedom.

I don't want to get "any" before marriage anyway. I don't want a promiscuous unmarried bimbo.

Something tells me that is not out of your choice.
 
You may correct me if I am wrong but isn't Bangladesh an example where giving women economic empowerment, education and reproductive rights over their bodies resulted in the birth rate falling from 7 kids per family to two and a rise in GDP? An example of poverty and overpopulation indicators moving in the right direction?
 
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There is nothing further to discuss really. I have already written many times what I think about this topic. We are typing the same thing over and over. At this point, you are simply spamming the thread.

Something tells me that is not out of your choice.

Haha! Okay.

I don't want to commit zina. Choice is not an option.

Whatever floats your boat.
 
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Heard a story about patriarchy. A man was boasting to his friends that he takes all the important decisions in the household. So his friend asked how do you manage to make your wife comply. The man smiled and said that the trick is making the wife think that she is also a part of the decision making. So what I do is follow her decision in small, non - important cases, while i decide on all the important issues. So I decide who will in a long term war between India and Pakistan, whether China will overtake USA as the world leader, and all such important issues, while she makes the small decisions like, which boarding school should we send our child to, whether to use the extra money to buy a new car or getting a foreign trip, whether to invest in share market , which colour should we paint our house with and the likes .

Very good idea.

Make them think they are in control while you do your thing.

This reminds me of democracy. Democracy is really an illusion.
 
Very good idea.

Make them think they are in control while you do your thing.

This reminds me of democracy. Democracy is really an illusion.

Before any liberal gets triggered, 66% of this comment of mine was a joke.

I was only serious about the democracy part.
 
You may correct me if I am wrong but isn't Bangladesh an example where giving women economic empowerment, education and reproductive rights over their bodies resulted in the birth rate falling from 7 kids per family to two and a rise in GDP? An example of poverty and overpopulation indicators moving in the right direction?

Bangladeshi stats are not all accurate I suspect. Hasina government is deceptive.

Also, don't assume everyone in Bangladesh supports Hasina and her government. I definitely do not.

Women empowerment is important but it should be done without sacrificing core identity. Core of Bangladesh is conservatism (both social and religious). They should ensure radical liberalism doesn't take a hold.
 
Bangladeshi stats are not all accurate I suspect. Hasina government is deceptive.

Also, don't assume everyone in Bangladesh supports Hasina and her government. I definitely do not.

Women empowerment is important but it should be done without sacrificing core identity. Core of Bangladesh is conservatism (both social and religious). They should ensure radical liberalism doesn't take a hold.
As a person half of whose family came from Bangladesh, I dispute that.

Bangladesh had no place in Pakistan because Hindus and Christians were accepted as equals - my Dad went to St Gregory’s High School in Dacca.

The whole point is that even the majority of Muslims in what became Bangladesh rejected social and religious conservatism.
 
You may correct me if I am wrong but isn't Bangladesh an example where giving women economic empowerment, education and reproductive rights over their bodies resulted in the birth rate falling from 7 kids per family to two and a rise in GDP? An example of poverty and overpopulation indicators moving in the right direction?
Bangladesh relatively liberated its women compared with Pakistan.

Now all Bangladeshis live longer, have a higher level of education and have a GDP 40% higher than Pakistan.
 
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There is nothing further to discuss really. I have already written many times what I think about this topic. We are typing the same thing over and over. At this point, you are simply spamming the thread.



Haha! Okay.

I don't want to commit zina. Choice is not an option.

Whatever floats your boat.
Isn’t this an example of where your literal interpretation of your faith produces a worse outcome?

Zina is sex which is not with a spouse or a slave.

So your faith, as handed down 1600 years ago, didn’t mean for you to be a virgin until marriage.

In my own religion there are countless reasons why I don’t believe in literal interpretation, and this is one.

How can it possibly be less moral for you to have sex with a nice, willing, consenting Canadian girl than with a slave?

Literal interpretation make IS rapists seem more godly than decent Canadian compatriots of yours.

If you take your religion too literally you end up in a situation in which your future wife and you will both have no sexual skills, have bad sex and end up with a worse relationship than you needed to.

There is nothing in my religion about having driving lessons or using toilet paper, but I live in a different world.

By all means observe your own faith. But perhaps you should review how literally you should interpret it.
 
It is the power dynamic at play that I am comparing. Aside from the fact that father/daughter is not the only relationship at play in patriarchy, at societal level men have power over women. Zionist have power of the Palestinians and those that live under benevolent Zionism have much better life outcomes than those who want to choose unlimited freedom.



Something tells me that is not out of your choice.

Sure. Not only women are oppressed by patriarchy, as it forces gentle and kind men and boys to act out of character, forces them to compete unduly, pushes nations into warfare.

What we need is a patriarchy-matriarchy mix. The world would immediately become safer, and the environment would start heading back into health.
 
As a person half of whose family came from Bangladesh, I dispute that.

Bangladesh had no place in Pakistan because Hindus and Christians were accepted as equals - my Dad went to St Gregory’s High School in Dacca.

The whole point is that even the majority of Muslims in what became Bangladesh rejected social and religious conservatism.

LOL. A few days ago, there was a massive conflict where Muslims targeted Hindus. I don't support that action but it shows that our core is conservative.

Do not confuse elite class with regular people. Elite people (upper class) tend to be liberals like you; regular people are mostly conservative and I want it to stay like that.

The section of Bangladesh you are referring to (liberal/secular upper class) is a minority section.
 
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Isn’t this an example of where your literal interpretation of your faith produces a worse outcome?

Zina is sex which is not with a spouse or a slave.

So your faith, as handed down 1600 years ago, didn’t mean for you to be a virgin until marriage.

In my own religion there are countless reasons why I don’t believe in literal interpretation, and this is one.

How can it possibly be less moral for you to have sex with a nice, willing, consenting Canadian girl than with a slave?

Literal interpretation make IS rapists seem more godly than decent Canadian compatriots of yours.

If you take your religion too literally you end up in a situation in which your future wife and you will both have no sexual skills, have bad sex and end up with a worse relationship than you needed to.

There is nothing in my religion about having driving lessons or using toilet paper, but I live in a different world.

By all means observe your own faith. But perhaps you should review how literally you should interpret it.

Very poor post.

Committing sex before marriage has many risks. What if the girl gets pregnant? What if the man leaves? A lot can go wrong.

Many girls in the west get abandoned after they become pregnant. So, they have to raise their children as single mothers.

There is very good logic in prohibiting premarital sex.

Either way, it is a no-go zone for me because my religion says so. There are certain rulings that need to be taken literally and it is one of those.
 
There are certain rulings that need to be taken literally and it is one of those.

Correction: A ruling is to be taken literally, unless scholars specify otherwise.

We shouldn't sell out our religion based on whims and desires.
 
How can it possibly be less moral for you to have sex with a nice, willing, consenting Canadian girl than with a slave?

Literal interpretation make IS rapists seem more godly than decent Canadian compatriots of yours.

If you take your religion too literally you end up in a situation in which your future wife and you will both have no sexual skills, have bad sex and end up with a worse relationship than you needed to.

There is nothing in my religion about having driving lessons or using toilet paper, but I live in a different world.

By all means observe your own faith. But perhaps you should review how literally you should interpret it.

Let's break this down one at a time.

I am anti-slavery. Islam actually promotes freeing slave; freeing slave is considered as a virtuous act. Also, slaves no longer exists. I would want to marry a Muslim woman (doesn't matter whether Canadian or not).

IS? Do you know that IS is rejected by almost all Muslims worldwide? They are so bad that even Al-Qaeda and Taliban don't like them. IS seems like a CIA/western project to destabilize Middle East. IS seems like a project to advance Greater Israel Project. Please read more about this.

No sexual skills? LOL. You are making it sound like sex is rocket science that you need to study for years. I expect this type of thinking from a gender studies major; not a psychologist like you.

Last but not the least, I intend to follow my religion as per mainstream interpretations. I leave these interpretations to scholars who are in charge of this. I tend to go with majority views.
 
Very poor post.

Committing sex before marriage has many risks. What if the girl gets pregnant? What if the man leaves? A lot can go wrong.

Many girls in the west get abandoned after they become pregnant. So, they have to raise their children as single mothers.

There is very good logic in prohibiting premarital sex.

A lot of married men leave after their wives become pregnant. Or at any other time. Perhaps we should ban marriage. Clearly it is not natural.
 
A lot of married men leave after their wives become pregnant. Or at any other time. Perhaps we should ban marriage. Clearly it is not natural.

If you ban marriage then there is no difference between humans and wild animals.

There are some things that separate us from animals. One is marriage.

Radical liberals may want humans to be like animals but we should be better than this. We shouldn't abandon law and order; we shouldn't abandon benevolent status quo.
 
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Let's break this down one at a time.

No sexual skills? LOL. You are making it sound like sex is rocket science that you need to study for years. I expect this type of thinking from a gender studies major; not a psychologist like you.

Last but not the least, I intend to follow my religion as per mainstream interpretations. I leave these interpretations to scholars who are in charge of this. I tend to go with majority views.
Sex is an extremely complex act. There are useless lovers who don’t know foreplay and have no moves, and there are skilled practitioners.

It makes a difference when you are tired or drained, believe me.

As for religious scholars, they are the worst people to be guided by. By definition they are the ones who take things literally, they are totally biased and unobjective and they generally haven’t led normal lives and don’t understand normal people.

I genuinely worry for you. You may not have the skills, knowledge and experience to make a woman happy. And your literal interpretation of religion seems to be driven by biased male clerics who may not be anchored in reality.
 
As for religious scholars, they are the worst people to be guided by. By definition they are the ones who take things literally, they are totally biased and unobjective and they generally haven’t led normal lives and don’t understand normal people.

I genuinely worry for you. You may not have the skills, knowledge and experience to make a woman happy. And your literal interpretation of religion seems to be driven by biased male clerics who may not be anchored in reality.

If staying away from zina means I have no skill, knowledge, and experience to make a woman happy, that's fine with me. I want to keep it that way till marriage. That's simply classier and more natural.

Regarding religious scholars, it is very ignorant for you to say they are the worst people. No point in discussing this with you if you really think that.

Do you want to know who are the worst? Gender studies and leftist professors.
 
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It is very clear Liberals hold sex as the highest priority of humanity. No wonder Liberalism is an abject failure.
 
If staying away from zina means I have no skill, knowledge, and experience to make a woman happy, that's fine with me. I want to keep it that way till marriage. That's simply classier and more natural.

Won't be fine with her, though.
 
Homosexually.
Transgenderism.
Wanton sex.

These are leading beliefs which Liberalism stands for today, and its propents defend till they are blue. All related to sex.
 
Homosexually.
Transgenderism.
Wanton sex.

These are leading beliefs which Liberalism stands for today, and its propents defend till they are blue. All related to sex.

Problem with modern day liberals is they want humans to be like animals. They want unlimited freedom and societal lawlessness; we are seeing the outcome now in front of our own eyes.

Many societies worldwide (particularly in the west) are declining morally. This decline is likely to continue, unless radical liberalism is called out and neutralized.
 
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Problem with modern day liberals is they want humans to be like animals. They want unlimited freedom and societal lawlessness; we are seeing the outcome now in front of our own eyes.

Many societies worldwide (particularly in the west) are declining morally. This decline is likely to continue, unless radical liberalism is called out and neutralized.

Yup, and while morality is in decline, hypocrisy and STDs are on the incline.
 
Bangladesh relatively liberated its women compared with Pakistan.

Now all Bangladeshis live longer, have a higher level of education and have a GDP 40% higher than Pakistan.

Thanks for confirming that patriarchy in poor countries keeps them poor.
 
Sure. Not only women are oppressed by patriarchy, as it forces gentle and kind men and boys to act out of character, forces them to compete unduly, pushes nations into warfare.

What we need is a patriarchy-matriarchy mix. The world would immediately become safer, and the environment would start heading back into health.

Indeed couldn't agree more.
 
Thanks for confirming that patriarchy in poor countries keeps them poor.

Gulf states show otherwise.

They are rich and have high levels of patriarchy. They are doing just fine.

Poverty is not tied to patriarchy. It is tied to other factors.
 
Humour me. Ignore the irrelevance. What would ME economy be like without oil?

What would be Pakistan team like without Babar? What would be Argentina like without Messi? What would happen if the sky was hot pink? These are all irrelevant and useless questions.

Are gulf states economically well? Yes.
Are they also patriarchs? Yes.

No need to make things complex.
 
What would be Pakistan team like without Babar? What would be Argentina like without Messi? What would happen if the sky was hot pink? These are all irrelevant and useless questions.

Are gulf states economically well? Yes.
Are they also patriarchs? Yes.

No need to make things complex.

They aren't doing economically well because of patriarchy but despite patriarchy. Without oil they would be like Afghanistan.
 
They aren't doing economically well because of patriarchy but despite patriarchy. Without oil they would be like Afghanistan.

Nope.

Patriarchy has no relation to poverty. They are doing well because of oil and great decisions.

If anything, benevolent patriarchy is actually a great help to achieve their ambitions.
 
Nope.

Patriarchy has no relation to poverty. They are doing well because of oil and great decisions.

If anything, benevolent patriarchy is actually a great help to achieve their ambitions.

Name me a patriarchal country that is doing economically well without oil.
 
Name me a patriarchal country that is doing economically well without oil.

Nope. There is no need to.

Your argument is flawed.

If you go through the last 700+ posts, you can understand the benefits of a benevolent patriarchy. No need to repeat myself.
 
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Hahhahahahhaha. You sound like a parrot. DO you have nay idea what percentage is gender studies degrees a year???" Do you? 2.2 million degrees a year in USA, 16,000 behavior science. Of those a very small percentage gender studies. Please stop with gender studies statements. Do you follow bill Walsh??????

That's where the problem lies.

Gender studies folks are small in numbers but control a significant narrative. Their viewpoints are being shoved down everyone's throat.

Bill Walsh or Matt Walsh?
 
Because you can't name one.

It is like asking me to name a sky that is pink.

This is an absurd and illogical question.

Oil is part of their natural resources. Every country has resources.

You two are simply asking irrelevant questions. Some of these questions have been answered already. Go back and read the past 750+ posts.
 
no he is n ot. You just dont have an answer. Name one country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't answer an illogical question.

It is like asking me to prove 2+2=4.

Ask good questions and I can answer.

Also, some of these topics have already been discussed. You can go back and read.
 
Name one country. Hahahhahahhahha. Its hilarious

British Empire has looted $45-trillion from Indian subcontinent alone.

These western countries got advanced due to all the lootings.

If patriarchic countries looted that much, they could've been advanced too.

In short, it is not about oil or no oil. You have to look at bigger picture.

Also, when you mean development, what do you mean? Walking in bikini is not development. Low crime would be a development. Gulf states have low crimes.
 
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Dude gold countries have more money than the British empire every did. WHAT HAVE THE PRODUCED???
What is their contribution???/
After oil its Khajur ( dates). lol!!!!!

It is not black and white like that.

They don't have to produce much because they have a large number of natural resources (oil).

Would you work if you have $10-billion in savings?

But, I believe they have started to diversify. They are having a project called Vision 2030.

Anyway. This is not the topic. Economy has nothing to do with patriarchy. Not sure why we are discussing this.
 
It is not black and white like that.

They don't have to produce much because they have a large number of natural resources (oil).

Would you work if you have $10-billion in savings?

But, I believe they have started to diversify. They are having a project called Vision 2030.

Anyway. This is not the topic. Economy has nothing to do with patriarchy. Not sure why we are discussing this.

Look at Norway. also flooded with oil. How many noble prize winners???? Human rights? women rights?
 
13. for a country that size. Saudi? The whole of Middle East?
 
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Look at Norway. also flooded with oil. How many noble prize winners???? Human rights? women rights?

Nobel prize? Hahahahaha!

Who cares about this stupid prize? If Obama can get it, it shows it has no value.

Women rights and human rights can vary from culture to culture. You can't shove your American system to the entire world.
 
Obama got Nobel peace prize. Not Nobel prize in science. Two very different things. So I ask again. How many Nobel prizes in the oil rich Middle East in science. What is middle eats contribution. A BIG FAT ZERO

Why are you emphasizing on "Nobel prize in science"?

It has nothing to do with patriarchy. It has nothing to do with anything really.

Every country has different priorities.
 
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I brought it up because you say Middle East is doing as well as anyone else. I am saying there is a mirage of them doing well due to oil. If you take away oil they have nothing. ZILCH!!!!!!!!. No contributions at all. Norway also a oil rich country. Plenty of contributions to the society.!!!!!!!
 
I brought it up because you say Middle East is doing as well as anyone else. I am saying there is a mirage of them doing well due to oil. If you take away oil they have nothing. ZILCH!!!!!!!!. No contributions at all. Norway also a oil rich country. Plenty of contributions to the society.!!!!!!!

Why would you want to take out oil? I don't understand.

Every country has resources like that.

Oil is part of them. They make enough money from it. But, they are starting to have Vision 2030 and starting to diversify (if I am not wrong).

Anyway. Like I said, it has nothing to do with patriarchy. Economy is not related to patriarchy.
 
Indeed.

Radical liberals are the champion of hypocrisy. Cancel culture is a testimony to that.

It’s always Conservative Cancel Kings who accuse others of Cancel Culture.

You want to Cancel feminism, Cancel gender freedom, Cancel a woman’s right to equal education and job opportunities. Cancel abortion. Cancel sexual freedom.

Yet hilariously you, the Cancel King of PakPassion, accuse others of Cancel Culture.

By the way, how did you feel swearing your Oath of Allegiance to the Queen of Canada?

How was it for you pledging your undying loyalty and obedience to a woman?
 
By the way, how did you feel swearing your Oath of Allegiance to the Queen of Canada?

How was it for you pledging your undying loyalty and obedience to a woman?

I don't remember. I did that in 2009. I was 19 then.

I don't think I remembered or cared about what I was saying.
 
Obama got Nobel peace prize. Not Nobel prize in science. Two very different things. So I ask again. How many Nobel prizes in the oil rich Middle East in science. What is middle eats contribution. A BIG FAT ZERO

To be fair, the Gulf states score pretty high on the Human Development Index. Not as high as European or North America, but better than Russia and Africa.

It’s human rights where they lag behind, largely due to patriarchy.
 
I don't remember. I did that in 2009. I was 19 then.

I don't think I remembered or cared about what I was saying.
But you do understand that you pledged before God your life to the service of and obedience to a woman?

I don’t see how that is consistent with the views you have espoused in this thread.

You took a promise before God to serve a woman.
 
To be fair, the Gulf states score pretty high on the Human Development Index. Not as high as European or North America, but better than Russia and Africa.

It’s human rights where they lag behind, largely due to patriarchy.
Yes they do. And the only reason is oil. What’s their next product that they sell that the world wants. Where are the Nobel prize winners ??
 
Yes they do. And the only reason is oil. What’s their next product that they sell that the world wants. Where are the Nobel prize winners ??

East or west, benevolent patriarchy is the best.

Why are you so concerned about Nobel Prize winners? What has it have to do with patriarchy?
 
But you do understand that you pledged before God your life to the service of and obedience to a woman?

I don’t see how that is consistent with the views you have espoused in this thread.

You took a promise before God to serve a woman.

Like I said, I don't remember a single letter. It happened over a decade ago. Who has time to ponder over this?

Also, I am okay with Elizabeth as my leader. She is not a bimbo like Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian. She is competent.
 
East or west, benevolent patriarchy is the best.

Why are you so concerned about Nobel Prize winners? What has it have to do with patriarchy?

Nobel prize winners in science / economics shows how a society is evolving. Shows their achievements. Shows progress. I am not talking about the political Nobel prize for peace. Talking about science/ economics.
 
Like I said, I don't remember a single letter. It happened over a decade ago. Who has time to ponder over this?

Also, I am okay with Elizabeth as my leader. She is not a bimbo like Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian. She is competent.

Paris the self-made multi-millionairess?

Kim the self-made billionairess?

Maybe that’s why you insult them - they have escaped patriarchal control to become more successful than you could ever be.
 
Nobel prize winners in science / economics shows how a society is evolving. Shows their achievements. Shows progress. I am not talking about the political Nobel prize for peace. Talking about science/ economics.

When you are filthy rich (like the Saudis are), these stuffs become less important.

Having said that, I believe they are now focusing on Vision 2030. Goal of this project is to reduce dependency on oil. Please take a look.
 
When you are filthy rich (like the Saudis are), these stuffs become less important.

Having said that, I believe they are now focusing on Vision 2030. Goal of this project is to reduce dependency on oil. Please take a look.
Norwegians are filthy rich. That did not stop them
 
When you are filthy rich (like the Saudis are), these stuffs become less important.

Having said that, I believe they are now focusing on Vision 2030. Goal of this project is to reduce dependency on oil. Please take a look.
Yes the vision 2030 started MBS…. Let’s see …
 
Paris the self-made multi-millionairess?

Kim the self-made billionairess?

Maybe that’s why you insult them - they have escaped patriarchal control to become more successful than you could ever be.

I would be ashamed if my hypothetical daughter or sister becomes like Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian (even if she becomes a millionaire/billionaire).

Money is not everything.
 
I would be ashamed if my hypothetical daughter or sister becomes like Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian (even if she becomes a millionaire/billionaire).

Money is not everything.

I can’t stand either of them and what the stand for. But they are smart, strong self made women.
 
I would be ashamed if my hypothetical daughter or sister becomes like Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian (even if she becomes a millionaire/billionaire).

Money is not everything.

But nevertheless they have achieved massively and are therefore not bimbos.
 
Paris the self-made multi-millionairess?

Kim the self-made billionairess?

Maybe that’s why you insult them - they have escaped patriarchal control to become more successful than you could ever be.

We need more women in India to escape patriarchal control. They are massively brainwashed to believe a woman has to accept the authority of a man. I posted the link earlier in the thread for those who wish to discuss it.
 
We need more women in India to escape patriarchal control. They are massively brainwashed to believe a woman has to accept the authority of a man. I posted the link earlier in the thread for those who wish to discuss it.

Indian women are slowly breaking the shackles of Patriarchy. They are educated and a good percentage of middle class women work outside of their home. They have opportunities to explore their talent.
The concept of working women is almost 50 years old now. Even for arranged marriages, parents look for an educated working woman for their son. They very well know that single income households will be stuck in middle class forever.
 
There should not be patriarchy or matriarchy. There should only be meritocracy. A man should not lead a family or country just because he is a man. Women are very well capable of making tough decisions and are as smart as men. Both are equal.
 
Indian women are slowly breaking the shackles of Patriarchy. They are educated and a good percentage of middle class women work outside of their home. They have opportunities to explore their talent.
The concept of working women is almost 50 years old now. Even for arranged marriages, parents look for an educated working woman for their son. They very well know that single income households will be stuck in middle class forever.

Same goes for Muslim women, things are definitely getting better.
 
Indian women are slowly breaking the shackles of Patriarchy. They are educated and a good percentage of middle class women work outside of their home. They have opportunities to explore their talent.
The concept of working women is almost 50 years old now. Even for arranged marriages, parents look for an educated working woman for their son. They very well know that single income households will be stuck in middle class forever.

Why are you assuming patriarchy results in women not working? That's a faulty assumption.
 
Same goes for Muslim women, things are definitely getting better.
Yes they are in some countries and some countries no. Pakistan is lower in the Gender inequality index than it was 10 years ago. So gotten worse ( according to UN). It was just above Afghanistan and Yeman 1 year ago. But yes in some countries ( muslims( things are improving for sure. Turkey before the Islamist Erdgogan was higher on The GII. Since his reign it has been sliding downwards in rankings.
 
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion...s-and-society/

More than half a century ago, India was one of the first countries in the world to elect a woman as prime minister, and the country currently has several highly influential women politicians, including Sonia Gandhi, the head of one of the major national parties. Today, most Indians say that “women and men make equally good political leaders,” and more than one-in-ten feel that women generally make better political leaders than men, according to a recent Pew Research Center survey of nearly 30,000 adults throughout India. Only a quarter of Indian adults take the position that men make better political leaders than women.

Yet, in domestic settings, Indians tend to say men should have more prominent roles than women. About nine-in-ten Indians agree with the notion that a wife must always obey her husband, including nearly two-thirds who completely agree with this sentiment. Indian women are only slightly less likely than Indian men to say they completely agree that wives should always obey their husbands (61% vs. 67%), according to the survey, which was conducted between late 2019 and early 2020 (mostly before the COVID-19 pandemic).


61% of Indian women believe they must obey their husband's orders. That is some deeply entrenched beliefs in 2022.
 
This is an absurd post.

There are working women in gulf states. There are working women in many patriarchic societies.

Try again.
They are just breaking the shackles of patriarchy. You can look at the percentage of women work force in those countries vs western countries.
 
They are just breaking the shackles of patriarchy. You can look at the percentage of women work force in those countries vs western countries.

Nope. Another misinformed post.

Looks like you and Champ_Pal watched too many Bollywood movies.
 
This is an absurd post.

There are working women in gulf states. There are working women in many patriarchic societies.

Try again.

Only in selected professions. They do not have a choice to choose their own path. The man has to approve if the profession is acceptable.
 
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