Why is Sarfraz Ahmed rated more by non-Pakistanis than Pakistanis themselves?

[SarfiBabarHaris]

From Nasser to Atherton to Manjeraker to Slater etc he is rated highly by non-Pakistanis.

But Pakistanis on the other side hardly appreciate him.

Non-Pakistanis appreciate his intelligence, passion, grit, fight and getting the best out of his players but Pakistanis criticize him because he 'shouts' at players.

What is the reason of that? Do Pakistanis have high benchmarks?

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

My non-Pakistanis friends also rate him highly and say he will be the first player on their Pakistan team sheet considering the package which he brings. But as a Sarfraz fan for a long time now I have hardly seen Pakistanis appreciating him.

 

[TalhaSyed]

It's the typical "grass is greener on the other side" mind set which many Pakistani fans have.

That's been the case with Pakistani skippers for a while.

I never heard a non-Pakistani utter a negative words about Misbah during his captaincy tenure.

However, on PakPassion by many posters, Misbah was portrayed as public enemy No.1 and by some - Misbah is still blamed for our struggles in limited over cricket.

 

[forverlurker]

Sarfraz is the best thing out of PCB since amir 2009

 

[kamz]

It's the typical "grass is greener on the other side" mind set which many Pakistani fans have.

That's been the case with Pakistani skippers for a while.

I never heard a non-Pakistani utter a negative words about Misbah during his captaincy tenure.

However, on PakPassion by many posters, Misbah was portrayed as public enemy No.1 and by some - Misbah is still blamed for our struggles in limited over cricket.

thankfully none of these fans have a say on pakistan cricket

they would have made it worse

no one will see the brilliance or even comment on Sarafarz's captaincy today of how he got the slips in, how he backed up Shadab and Junaid

When stokes came in, he could have continued to choke with Morgan and Stokes (with Shadab and Hafeez), but he got Junaid and Hassan in and went with an aggresive strategy - ball was reversing

no one will see the brilliance that he gave Hassan 3 overs rather than just 2, saving some of Hassan's overs for the end - he is going for the kill

Even when Moeen and Stokes were on, he didnt bring hafeez straight away to get the spinners quota done. He continued with Junaid

He is a good tactician and even now when the england batsmen are completely choked by Junaid and Hassan, he gets Shadab and now Rumman to complete the quota, inviting them to take higher risks, which may yield wickets


unfortunate, none of the fans will appreciate these things or infact the very idea that cricket is a funny game and had this strategy not pulled off, they would have lambasted Sarfaraz.

The key thing for fans to look at is that Sarfaraz does not fear about his decisions, he has strong self belief and supports his team mates which are essential traits to have in a good leader.

one shoudl worry if Sarfaraz takes a bold decision, it does not pay off and then he develops fear of taking bold decisions in the future

 

[TalhaSyed]

thankfully that none of these fans have a say on pakistan cricket

they would have made it worse

no one will see the brilliance or even comment on Sarafarz's captaincy today of how he got the slips in, how he backed up Shadab and Junaid

When stokes came in, he could have continued to choke with Morgan and Stokes (with Shadab and Hafeez), but he got Junaid and Hassan in and went with an aggresive strategy - ball was reversing

no one will see the brilliance that he gave Hassan 3 overs rather than just 2, saving some of Hassan's overs for the end - he is going for the kill

Even when Moeen and Stokes were on, he didnt bring hafeez straight away to get the spinners quota done. He continued with Junaid

He is a good tactician and even now when the england batsmen are completely choked by Junaid and Hassan, he gets Shadab and now Rumman to complete the quota, inviting them to take higher risks, which may yield wickets


unfortunate, none of the fans will appreciate these things or infact the very idea that cricket is a funny game and had this strategy not pulled off, they would have lambasted Sarfaraz.

The key thing for fans to look at is that Sarfaraz does not fear about his decisions, he has strong self belief and supports his team mates which are essential traits to have in a good leader.

one shoudl worry if Sarfaraz takes a bold decision, it does not pay off and then he develops fear of taking bold decisions in the future

Sarfraz has been very good todqay MashAllah!

Hope it long continues!

 

[Markhor]

A decent chunk of Pakistani fans are fickle clowns.

 

[waleed88]

I think he is rated by Pakistanis... getting there slowly, if you read about Sarfraz on socail media, alot of people are defending him, calling for his support.. most of his haters have nothing to say about his ability but his english speaking..

More likeability than Misbaah actaully at the start of his captaincy,

 

[waleed88]

His captaincy was decent against India but the wheels came off very quickly against them in the last 10... Wahab Riaz made sureto release pressure whenever they couldn't get runs

 

[Heisenberg]

I don't think he has the personality. Too early to judge either way.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

I don't think he has the personality. Too early to judge either way.

what is personality?

Who has personality in Pak ? Shehzad, Afridi , Imad ?

Really I want to know what this personality thing is and its relation with captaincy and influencing results.

 

[idrizzy]

thankfully none of these fans have a say on pakistan cricket

they would have made it worse

no one will see the brilliance or even comment on Sarafarz's captaincy today of how he got the slips in, how he backed up Shadab and Junaid

When stokes came in, he could have continued to choke with Morgan and Stokes (with Shadab and Hafeez), but he got Junaid and Hassan in and went with an aggresive strategy - ball was reversing

no one will see the brilliance that he gave Hassan 3 overs rather than just 2, saving some of Hassan's overs for the end - he is going for the kill

Even when Moeen and Stokes were on, he didnt bring hafeez straight away to get the spinners quota done. He continued with Junaid

He is a good tactician and even now when the england batsmen are completely choked by Junaid and Hassan, he gets Shadab and now Rumman to complete the quota, inviting them to take higher risks, which may yield wickets


unfortunate, none of the fans will appreciate these things or infact the very idea that cricket is a funny game and had this strategy not pulled off, they would have lambasted Sarfaraz.

The key thing for fans to look at is that Sarfaraz does not fear about his decisions, he has strong self belief and supports his team mates which are essential traits to have in a good leader.

one shoudl worry if Sarfaraz takes a bold decision, it does not pay off and then he develops fear of taking bold decisions in the future

This post is what dreams are made of. Even in the SL match he made very good captaincy changes, and today too.

Couldn't agree more with your last paragraph.

 

[Markhor]

what is personality?

Who has personality in Pak ? Shehzad, Afridi , Imad ?

Really I want to know what this personality thing is and its relation with captaincy and influencing results.

Afridi had personality and look where his captaincy got us.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Afridi had personality and look where his captaincy got us.

Pakistan is no 8. I repeat no 8.

What did past captains with personalities do ?

 

[Markhor]

Pakistan is no 8. I repeat no 8.

What did past captains with personalities do ?

Exactly. Tactical awareness >>> "Personality, body language and fluent press conferences"

 

[Heisenberg]

what is personality?

Who has personality in Pak ? Shehzad, Afridi , Imad ?

Really I want to know what this personality thing is and its relation with captaincy and influencing results.

I don't know. I don't pretend to know much about cricket. I just think he can crumble under pressure. I liked Misbah's personality better than Afridi btw

 

[TQ89]

This personality BS myth came into being because of our beloved IK.

According to our fans Tactics, cricketing brain can all go down the drain. Captain should be a guy who can seem intimidating like an action hero, has good looks and can speak english.

And being calm and collected makes captain a coward. He should shout abuses at fielders for drops, reprand the bowlers after every over and roar at the top of his lungs to show he is alpha male

 

[nam]

nashukray hain aur kya.. give em azhar ali back..

 

[sshakir411]

Inherent bias. Same reason they can't help but support ******** Akmals.

 

[the Great Khan]

From Nasser to Atherton to Manjeraker to Slater etc he is rated highly by non-Pakistanis.

But Pakistanis on the other side hardly appreciate him.

Non-Pakistanis appreciate his intelligence, passion, grit, fight and getting the best out of his players but Pakistanis criticize him because he 'shouts' at players.

What is the reason of that? Do Pakistanis have high benchmarks?

which pakistanis? the psuedo experts on PP? dont listen to them. Most of them are young and havent watched much cricket. Sarfi is a good captain and he has proven himself by winning a world cup in a hopeless situation. A real streetfighter.

Some "fans" just want some weird cross between malik and imran khan with a bit of akram mixed in..

 

[TQ89]

Waseen waqar always bring out the cliched "body language" after every defeat. The best captains of the modern age i have seen are MS dhoni and steve waugh. None of these gentlemen was panicking captain and always cool whether under pressure or not

 

[Lynx]

Because most Pakistani fans can't analyze and comprehend to save their lives. Lack of education.

 

[mikeypbadana]

Sarfaraz reminds me of dhoni with out power hitting. To be fair to Afridi he led well in 2011 World Cup dropped catches and the batting let them down otherwise he was decent as captain.

 

[Macho Mann]

which pakistanis? the psuedo experts on PP? dont listen to them. Most of them are young and havent watched much cricket. Sarfi is a good captain and he has proven himself by winning a world cup in a hopeless situation. A real streetfighter.

Some "fans" just want some weird cross between malik and imran khan with a bit of akram mixed in..

sorry but pakistani cricket analysts have never rated him

this is a fact and a reality

nasir hussain is a very unbaised anayst, and i also heard harsha boghle praising sarfraz

no pakistani has praised like foreign analysts

shoaib akhter even wanted him replaced after indian match

 

[the Great Khan]

sorry but pakistani cricket analysts have never rated him

this is a fact and a reality

nasir hussain is a very unbaised anayst, and i also heard harsha boghle praising sarfraz

no pakistani has praised like foreign analysts

shoaib akhter even wanted him replaced after indian match

then that should tell you alot about our so called experts.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Sarfaraz reminds me of dhoni with out power hitting. To be fair to Afridi he led well in 2011 World Cup dropped catches and the batting let them down otherwise he was decent as captain.

Leading this team to a semi/final is no less than a miracle.

Afridi had a strong team and favorable conditions.

 

[coy0607]

Sarfraz is the best thing out of PCB since amir 2009

Agreed! Perhaps even better...

I think Sarfaraz has got a real chance to go down as a top 2 Pakistani captain ever, with results to back it up... if the PCB can stay out of his way

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

if the PCB can stay out of his way

This is the biggest hurdle

 

[Madplayer]

Agreed! Perhaps even better...

I think Sarfaraz has got a real chance to go down as a top 2 Pakistani captain ever, with results to back it up... if the PCB can stay out of his way

You think he can be a good test captain?

 

[coy0607]

You think he can be a good test captain?

Why not? He's been near perfect for a new captain so far in ODIs and T20s

And I understand that test matches are a different beast, but leadership is leadership, and Sarfaraz clearly has leadership and tactical ability

 

[Saurav]

same case with Dhoni,Misbah etc basically desi captains

 

[Macho Mann]

i dont think sarfraz should captain tests, would put a lot of burden on him, should make ODI side better and let muhammad amir, babar azam or any other take captaincy

 

[coy0607]

i dont think sarfraz should captain tests, would put a lot of burden on him, should make ODI side better and let muhammad amir, babar azam or any other take captaincy

having would create more problems, having multiple captains is never a good idea and would inevitably lead to instability, political agendas and one of them being sacked

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Chappel singing high praises of Sarfraz's captaincy on ptv.

Has Chappel captained and was he a good captain of his time? Seems amazingly knowledgeable when it comes to captaincy. Some great points in about captaincy in general too.

 

[mak36]

From Nasser to Atherton to Manjeraker to Slater etc he is rated highly by non-Pakistanis.

But Pakistanis on the other side hardly appreciate him.

Non-Pakistanis appreciate his intelligence, passion, grit, fight and getting the best out of his players but Pakistanis criticize him because he 'shouts' at players.

What is the reason of that? Do Pakistanis have high benchmarks?

thankfully none of these fans have a say on pakistan cricket

they would have made it worse

no one will see the brilliance or even comment on Sarafarz's captaincy today of how he got the slips in, how he backed up Shadab and Junaid

When stokes came in, he could have continued to choke with Morgan and Stokes (with Shadab and Hafeez), but he got Junaid and Hassan in and went with an aggresive strategy - ball was reversing

no one will see the brilliance that he gave Hassan 3 overs rather than just 2, saving some of Hassan's overs for the end - he is going for the kill

Even when Moeen and Stokes were on, he didnt bring hafeez straight away to get the spinners quota done. He continued with Junaid

He is a good tactician and even now when the england batsmen are completely choked by Junaid and Hassan, he gets Shadab and now Rumman to complete the quota, inviting them to take higher risks, which may yield wickets


unfortunate, none of the fans will appreciate these things or infact the very idea that cricket is a funny game and had this strategy not pulled off, they would have lambasted Sarfaraz.

The key thing for fans to look at is that Sarfaraz does not fear about his decisions, he has strong self belief and supports his team mates which are essential traits to have in a good leader.

one shoudl worry if Sarfaraz takes a bold decision, it does not pay off and then he develops fear of taking bold decisions in the future

Have a lot of time for both of these comments. When I read the criticisms some posters make about Sarfaraz's captaincy I honestly wonder whether they are talking about the same player.

He is a natural leader who brings energy and aggression every time he steps out on to the cricket field. He is a real fighter and has shown through his tactics/bowling changes he can read the match situation very well. Plus he isn't afraid to give the players a kick up the backside when needed. I'm looking forward to him taking over the test captaincy.

 

[LordEddardStark]

No matter how good he captains this side, he'll never go down as a favorite for us Pakistanies. I guess it's something to have with his uncombed hair, stubbly beard, fast paced way of talk and general non-handsomeness. In short, he is not cool enough.

Be it Sports or Entertainment or Music, we have infatuation with Coolness in this era. Sarfaraz is as tactical as they come but before CT, people at PP were advocating for Imad Wasim's captaincy instead. Glad those people won't speak up for a long time now.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Totally agree with you, but what can we do about Pakistani fans from whom most support players like Umar Akmal and Mohammed Rizwan instead of him.

He deserves all praise and has been instrumental in changing Pakistan's fortune, he is the major reason why we are in the Final and I highly doubt we would have gone past group stage had Azhar been the captain. What a Captain and a player he has been for Pakistan, just brilliant.

 

[asma_cricfan]

He is going to be more powerful now which I don't mind if he uses his power to throw akmals, hafeez, wahab out.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

No matter how good he captains this side, he'll never go down as a favorite for us Pakistanies. I guess it's something to have with his uncombed hair, stubbly beard, fast paced way of talk and general non-handsomeness. In short, he is not cool enough.

Be it Sports or Entertainment or Music, we have infatuation with Coolness in this era. Sarfaraz is as tactical as they come but before CT, people at PP were advocating for Imad Wasim's captaincy instead. Glad those people won't speak up for a long time now.

What an amazing post. Couldn't have said it better.

 

[Madplayer]

Chappel singing high praises of Sarfraz's captaincy on ptv.

Has Chappel captained and was he a good captain of his time? Seems amazingly knowledgeable when it comes to captaincy. Some great points in about captaincy in general too.

Is this a joke? Lol ian chappel was one of the best aussie captains ever. Some call him the best ever.

 

[LordEddardStark]

What an amazing post. Couldn't have said it better.

Thank you!

 

[Fahdi]

I don't rate his batting down at number 6. Sarfraz has the makings of an an excellent number 4 batsman and most people can see that. The way he builds his innings and his limited big hitting ability make him highly unlikely to succeed batting lower than 5. Even his stats reflect this. I think Sarfraz averages 45+ in the top 5 and less than 25 at 6 and below since 2014. Sarfraz the batsman at 6 and 7 is a passenger in the side, he needs to move himself to 4 in the greater interest of the team. The Hafeez issue needs to be dealt with, the team cannot afford a bits and pieces number 4.

 

[Macho Mann]

sarfraz shouldnt stop here, beat the finalists which would be probably india and not only win the trophy first time but defeat india or bangladesh if they qualify

this is the best time as ever

 

[TQ89]

Chappel singing high praises of Sarfraz's captaincy on ptv.

Has Chappel captained and was he a good captain of his time? Seems amazingly knowledgeable when it comes to captaincy. Some great points in about captaincy in general too.

Chappell was Australias first modern captain. Aggression and sledging were started by him which the aussies next generation imitated. He is rated quite highly by english cricket fans as well as aussies. Also he captained australia in 1975 World cup

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Is this a joke? Lol ian chappel was one of the best aussie captains ever. Some call him the best ever.

Chappell was Australias first modern captain. Aggression and sledging were started by him which the aussies next generation imitated. He is rated quite highly by english cricket fans as well as aussies. Also he captained australia in 1975 World cup

Thanks guys!
Nice to see great words coming from a great captain for our current captain. And it was not some usual good words but an analysis of Sarfraz's captaincy and the things he did hence the high praises.

 

[Pete Rose]

because he has demonstrated something close the hype in his last three games. i dont believe in dishing out OTT praise. perform and you can have it...and you will have it till you perform.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

because he has demonstrated something close the hype in his last three games. i dont believe in dishing out OTT praise. perform and you can have it...and you will have it till you perform.

Non-Pakistanis have praised him for last 2-3 years now.

 

[Pete Rose]

Non-Pakistanis have praised him for last 2-3 years now.

so what?

 

[Confucius]

It's because we don't have an eye for character and tenacity we fawn over elegant cutt shots and lofted cover drive sixes. Most of our fans/"experts" appreciate the sport at a very superficial level. In Pakistani cricket a good-looking quick fire innings under no pressure trumps a gutsy one under difficult circumstances.

 

[srh]

My non-Pakistanis friends also rate him highly and say he will be the first player on their Pakistan team sheet considering the package which he brings. But as a Sarfraz fan for a long time now I have hardly seen Pakistanis appreciating him.

if what you are saying is truth and you did not invented it, then either those non-Pakistanis friends dont know much about cricket or they are pulling your legs and laughing at you on your back of how stupid you are to believe in it

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

so what?

so your point doesnt hold much value considering the thread topic.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

if what you are saying is truth and you did not invented it, then either those non-Pakistanis friends dont know much about cricket or they are pulling your legs and laughing at you on your back of how stupid you are to believe in it

one of the commentator also said it. lol!
For me, right now he is the second most important player in our team after Hasan. I am someone who believe captaincy is key in cricket.

 

[Pete Rose]

so your point doesnt hold much value considering the thread topic.

no it just sounds like the usual **** says it hence must be right. lots of folks have had a lot to say about pakistn and its players in the past. not all of it came true.

 

[Confucius]

Sarfaraz reminds me of dhoni with out power hitting. To be fair to Afridi he led well in 2011 World Cup dropped catches and the batting let them down otherwise he was decent as captain.

Afridi was a shockingly bad captain and an uber defensive one. His field placements and tactical astuteness were elementary at best. That said his bowling and that of Ajmal are what got us to the Semis in that tournament.

 

[cricketfan11]

Thank you!

Hence, players like Shahid Afridi who are considered cool/handsome, or players like Shoaib Akhtar, who have attitude/touch of arrogance, are somehow better received and escape a lot of criticism?

Get the impression Miandad is probably a victim of this mentality too - despite being considered a master tactician/match winner he is somehow not praised or mentioned as much as some other superstars. Rashid Latif is another one who comes to mind - someone who was an excellent keeper and whose dedication can be seen by how he has nurtured the likes of Younis Khan and Sohail Khan, possibly others.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Rashid Latif is another one who comes to mind - someone who was an excellent keeper and whose dedication can be seen by how he has nurtured the likes of Younis Khan and Sohail Khan, possibly others.

Karachi cricket owes a lot to Rashid Latif. My relative who plays club cricket in Karachi said Rashid opened 3 new academies in Khi where kids can come without fee.

 

[cricketfan11]

Karachi cricket owes a lot to Rashid Latif. My relative who plays club cricket in Karachi said Rashid opened 3 new academies in Khi where kids can come without fee.

I am not that well versed with Karachi's cricket scenario, but I have seen both Younis and Sohail saying that Latif has supported them since childhood and he is one of the reasons for their success.

It is not the case that I particularly admire Latif ; I just don't see him receiving credit for supporting Younis, one of Pakistan's best batsmen, for example, whereas we keep hearing about how Imran Khan supported Wasim Akram and co, for example.

Again- not saying Rashid's stature is equivalent to Imran's or Younis's stature is equal to Wasim's, but just drawing a comparison to highlight the apparent indifference towards Sarfraz.

 

[IMMY69]

He's had three brilliant games and what has also impressed me is new found calm.

 

[Salman]

I will cut to the chase, majority of the Pakistan cricket fans and pundits that were never happy about him given captaincy were predominantly from the non Sindhi regions of Pakistan, this is the sad truth, this guy has worked harder then any other Pakistan captain to get to this stage. Hope a big lesson in unity and appreciation has taken place for us fans over the last few days.

 

[Clubpenno]

what is personality?

Who has personality in Pak ? Shehzad, Afridi , Imad ?

Really I want to know what this personality thing is and its relation with captaincy and influencing results.

Azhar and Asad Shafiq

 

[shaaik]

Pardon me saying, We are thankless fans specially here on pakpassion.

 

[Pakistanian]

I will cut to the chase, majority of the Pakistan cricket fans and pundits that were never happy about him given captaincy were predominantly from the non Sindhi regions of Pakistan, this is the sad truth, this guy has worked harder then any other Pakistan captain to get to this stage. Hope a big lesson in unity and appreciation has taken place for us fans over the last few days.

This is not true.

 

[Greenstorm]

I will cut to the chase, majority of the Pakistan cricket fans and pundits that were never happy about him given captaincy were predominantly from the non Sindhi regions of Pakistan, this is the sad truth, this guy has worked harder then any other Pakistan captain to get to this stage. Hope a big lesson in unity and appreciation has taken place for us fans over the last few days.

No thats not true at all. Win matches for your team and fans will love you. Most of the cricket viewers in Pakistan usually do not go into details that how a captain is managing their bowlers, field position and batting orders etc. They just want the job done and that is the reason why Afridi is still the most loved cricketer among the masses and Misbah after all his contribution is still not appreciated that much. You will see the love for sarfaraz among fans once he brings that trophy home inshAllah.

 

[KhalidRafi]

Like Atherton said: He's a street-fighter. "The street-fighter from Karachi."

I've always rated him highly since he truly came to the fore during the World Cup. And I think he has developed great character and resolve in the last two years which is what you most look for in a captain. His attacking field settings and tactics have been such a breath of fresh air for the team too. Has the potential to be an amazing captain in the future.

 

[Executioner]

Because we see him as a grinder. Pakistanis don't love these grinders. They love the flashy drives of Yousuf. Sweeps of yk. Inzis flicks. Afridi's slog

To a common Pakistani growing up Sarfaraz is an abomination. To everyone else he is a fighter.

 

[Zabbaz]

It's the typical "grass is greener on the other side" mind set which many Pakistani fans have.

That's been the case with Pakistani skippers for a while.

I never heard a non-Pakistani utter a negative words about Misbah during his captaincy tenure.

Because they did not have to watch him day in and day out. Neutrals do not necessarily watch a lot of Pak cricket. They hear or read about it second hand and are therefore reliant on other people’s views to form their opinions. When they did start to watch him up close in ODI’s, they started to question his approach.

Let me give you an example. Michael Holding was a huge Misbah fan. Before and during the 2015 WC he was full of so much praise for Misbah. He openly defended him and said he could not believe that he had any detractors when he was the one who was holding the Pakistani batting together and was a great captain.

Then as he started to watch him, he progressively became more and more understanding of Misbah's critics. He did not stop liking Misbah , but after a few frustrating inning he embarrassingly admitted to another former cricketer (Ian Chappell ?) that he now understood why so many people criticized Misbah and that their criticism was indeed merited. He still maintained that he thought that the critics went too far, but again reiterated that they had some valid points.

At one point during another post-match interview he burst out laughing seemingly out of embarrassment over the fact that he regretted that he had defended Misbah so vocally. The other former cricketers were kind of teasing him about it. I think it was after an Innings that was filled with significant amount of dot balls and that had a negative impact on the Pakistan inning.

However, on PakPassion by many posters, Misbah was portrayed as public enemy No.1

Some have but most have been quiet and held back. It is my impression that many have wanted to speak out earlier but been afraid to do so. But now we are beginning to see a much larger number of posters who are willing to openly speak up and criticize Misbah. I think this is refreshing and highly constructive. People are beginning to realize how things really are and have the courage to speak the truth.

They are realizing that what was thought to be an unpopular opinion is actually the view of the silent majority. They have been told for a long time that they do not understand cricket and that they should just accept that Misbah’s approach (to pretty much all things) was the correct one. But now they are beginning to realize that their own eyes were not lying to them nor was their logic, judgement or understanding of the game flawed.

Misbah is still blamed for our struggles in limited over cricket.

As he should be. We have been extremely kind to him to our own detriment. We need not be disrespectful or cruel. However, we should openly speak out against his flawed approach. More posters than ever before are beginning to do so. I think this is great for Pakistan cricket. It is very constructive. We are finally being objective rather than giving him a pass for being a nice guy. Also it helps that he has retired. Dissent seems to be more welcomed than it was before.

I know you hold a different view and that is fine. I respect your opinion. I just hope you keep an open mind.

I think the tentative signs of change we are seeing in our cricket is great. The passion of the fans also seems to be back. We are getting back our identity as cricket team. Not the pale shadow that we have been since post the 2011 WC.

 

[Zabbaz]

Chappell was Australias first modern captain. Aggression and sledging were started by him which the aussies next generation imitated. He is rated quite highly by english cricket fans as well as aussies. Also he captained australia in 1975 World cup

True. However he was not a fan of sledging and did not encourage it. Of course I could be wrong

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Bump!!
I couldn't stopped myself from commenting here.
And I'm sorry to say here in India atleast as far as whenever i had chat with my cricketing friends or uncles no one really like him watching especially when he is screaming at bowler's like he is playing some gully cricket.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Bump!!
I couldn't stopped myself from commenting here.
And I'm sorry to say here in India atleast as far as whenever i had chat with my cricketing friends or uncles no one really like him watching especially when he is screaming at bowler's like he is playing some gully cricket.

Sometimes your players need a talking to/tough love but to be honest he himself was never a great batsman. I was particularly disgusted with his behavior during a PSL game when Sarfraz and Moin Khan cursed Anwar Ali when he almost won his team a match and was unfortunately caught or run out (i can't remember). I'm glad he's not captain anymore because honestly he was nothing special and in fact a captain shouldn't be always praised it's the team as a whole that puts in a collective effort.

Sarfraz's only claim to fame is winning us the CT17 trophy along with some valiant t20 series wins at home which got us to the no. 1 t20 ranking.