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I was looking at the rankings and Pakistan happen to be the lowest ranked South Asian nation, even behinds the likes of Bhutan and Nepal. In comparison, India are ranked 101th in the world, so around 104 places above Pakistan, so this entire argument of "cricket being number 1" is instantly destroyed when India are so much better at football. I saw a bang average side like Cambodia destroy Pakistan 4-1 on aggregate in the world cup qualifiers, whereas teams like India Bangladesh Nepal and Maldives are playing in the main AFC world cup 2022 qualifiers.

Then, you have a nation like Maldives, who are probably the size of a small town in Pakistan and have performed great in football, compared to Pakistan. They've won 2 SAFF cups and showed time and time again why they are the most talented sporting nation in South Asia after India.

Why are Pakistan so poor at football? It can't just be all about cricket, or else India would've been similar.
 
I was looking at the rankings and Pakistan happen to be the lowest ranked South Asian nation, even behinds the likes of Bhutan and Nepal. In comparison, India are ranked 101th in the world, so around 104 places above Pakistan, so this entire argument of "cricket being number 1" is instantly destroyed when India are so much better at football. I saw a bang average side like Cambodia destroy Pakistan 4-1 on aggregate in the world cup qualifiers, whereas teams like India Bangladesh Nepal and Maldives are playing in the main AFC world cup 2022 qualifiers.

Then, you have a nation like Maldives, who are probably the size of a small town in Pakistan and have performed great in football, compared to Pakistan. They've won 2 SAFF cups and showed time and time again why they are the most talented sporting nation in South Asia after India.

Why are Pakistan so poor at football? It can't just be all about cricket, or else India would've been similar.

Seen the state of the Pakistan cricketers?

Now imagine they had to run for 90 minutes with only a 15 minute break.
 
Corruption, politics, infighting in PFF, lack of interest and our domestic leagues are out of function since 2015. We were also banned by FIFA which prevented us to play games which made us fall to 201 in FIFA rankings.

A lot of players on Pakistan's team are overseas Pakistanis(mostly born in Norway and Denmark). Pakistan could attract overseas Pakistani players like Ghayas Zahid(first South Asian to play in the Champions League), Etzaz Hussain(plays in the Norwegian league) and Easah Suliman(Has captained England U21). This of course will only work if PFF gets it's act straight.

People in Balochistan, Lyari and the Northern Areas actually like football more than Cricket which is why i'm against popularizing cricket in those places.

The truth is that we can't expect a sport like Football to flourish in a country where even it's national sport Hockey is struggling.

Also India has the ISL where they have like China attracted old retired players from Europe with huge amounts of money.
 
Corruption, politics, infighting in PFF, lack of interest and our domestic leagues are out of function since 2015. We were also banned by FIFA which prevented us to play games which made us fall to 201 in FIFA rankings.

A lot of players on Pakistan's team are overseas Pakistanis(mostly born in Norway and Denmark). Pakistan could attract overseas Pakistani players like Ghayas Zahid(first South Asian to play in the Champions League), Etzaz Hussain(plays in the Norwegian league) and Easah Suliman(Has captained England U21). This of course will only work if PFF gets it's act straight.

People in Balochistan, Lyari and the Northern Areas actually like football more than Cricket which is why i'm against popularizing cricket in those places.

The truth is that we can't expect a sport like Football to flourish in a country where even it's national sport Hockey is struggling.

Also India has the ISL where they have like China attracted old retired players from Europe with huge amounts of money.

Pretty much. Also for any nation to improve in football it first has to have a decent domestic league. Our domestic league has no following, is in shambles, with no money, the grounds are worse than my backyard and the problems you mentioned.

A shame really.
 
Plus i don't understand why we're comparing Pakistan Football with India Football. War torn nations like Syria and smaller countries like Bahrain have better teams. The only reason India dominates South Asia is because everyone is awful. The two best football teams in our region is Iran and Uzbekistan which is why Afghanistan left SAFF(South Asian Football Federation) and joined the CAFA(Central Asian Football Association) which inclueds Iran aswell.
 
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Plus i don't understand why we're comparing Pakistan Football with India Football. War torn nations like Syria and smaller countries like Bahrain have better teams. The only reason India dominates South Asia is because everyone is awful. The two best football teams in our region is Iran and Uzbekistan which is why Afghanistan left SAFF(South Asian Football Federation) and joined the CAFA(Central Asian Football Association) which inclueds Iran aswell.

Because if Pakistan is compared with Syria or Bahrain, everyone will say cricket is number 1 sport in Pakistan, and they can't compete because of that distraction. Whereas with India, who also have the same cricket distraction, are a much better team than Pakistan in football.
 
Because if Pakistan is compared with Syria or Bahrain, everyone will say cricket is number 1 sport in Pakistan, and they can't compete because of that distraction. Whereas with India, who also have the same cricket distraction, are a much better team than Pakistan in football.

Not saying that we should compare ourselves to them. All i'm saying is that there are other countries to look up to if you want to get inspired. Same as you wouldn't look up to Zimbabwe or Nepal if you wanted to build a cricket team.
 
Pakistan was suspended for a few years so the ranking is worse than it should be. Best option to improve in short term is to get players of Pakistani descent from Europe.
 
In many south indian states football was bigger than cricket t. And many south indians would not know Indian cricket team was playing who the current captain is but would know the state football team schedules and players. I am not sure if its still the case though.
 
In many south indian states football was bigger than cricket t. And many south indians would not know Indian cricket team was playing who the current captain is but would know the state football team schedules and players. I am not sure if its still the case though.

Not really. Kerala was the only southern state where football was way bigger than cricket. But the IPL bringing in a Kerala team and Sreesanth, though he was based in Bengaluru, changed that and now it seems cricket is quite big there.

Bengal also was crazy about football but they had Eden Gardens and I guess cricket has also always been huge there.
 
Cricket is still the most professionally run sport in Pakistan and that tells you alot about the other sports.
 
numerous issues..faisal saleh hayat has for some reason the backing of FIFA..as long as he is there the game will continue to remain where it is..

there is a massive appetite for both Hockey and football in pakistan if the federations get their act together.

We need to spend more money on our domestic league and create a proper city based competition. Same with hockey.

the sponsors will come once they realise there is a viewership and money.

The first step is to fix the national team..that is a massive task...

we need to look at teams in places like the middle east to see how they consistently get into world cups and asia cups..

Overall though money is king and we have none..
 
numerous issues..faisal saleh hayat has for some reason the backing of FIFA..as long as he is there the game will continue to remain where it is..

there is a massive appetite for both Hockey and football in pakistan if the federations get their act together.

We need to spend more money on our domestic league and create a proper city based competition. Same with hockey.

the sponsors will come once they realise there is a viewership and money.

The first step is to fix the national team..that is a massive task...

we need to look at teams in places like the middle east to see how they consistently get into world cups and asia cups..

Overall though money is king and we have none..

I disagree with respect. The first thing to fix is our domestic leagues, that is the first way people at local and grassroot level will get interested. Arrange a small league with big cities, some decent grounds, put it on PTV Sports and it doesn't even have to be a year long league. They can start with a month competition and take it from there.
 
No investment in the Sport at all. To Cricket obsessed to give any other Sport a chance.
 
No investment in the Sport at all. To Cricket obsessed to give any other Sport a chance.

Yeah, cricket will be limited to South Asia by 2030/2040 which is why we need to invest in football.
 
Yeah, cricket will be limited to South Asia by 2030/2040 which is why we need to invest in football.

Cricket will always be a minority Sport that most of the world doesn't care about. Only teams poor at major Sports like Football, Golf, Tennis and the Olympics care about it. The subcontinent is obsessed with Cricket as a means to out do each other. They think it is a bench mark for being seen as progressive:D China, Russia and America laugh at Cricket!:ma You can't expect our ex Cricketer PM to know much about other Sports or their impact.
 
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Pakistan is mainly ranked so low because of being suspended from Fifa for 2 years you can't improve your ranking if your not playing your only going to go down.

Also the league structure in Pakistan is horrible and so is the PFF itself. They don't care about the progress of Pakistani football

Another thing is they try to get overseas Pakistanis to play which isn't a bad thing but long term you want your grass root level to be good as well which it is not

In regards to talent their is talent in the country but also politics take into team selections as well

We need to scout more players from lyari , Balochistan, south Punjab, and Gilgit has talented players as well even in the city of Saragoda I have Seen some really good players
 
Pakistan is mainly ranked so low because of being suspended from Fifa for 2 years you can't improve your ranking if your not playing your only going to go down.

Also the league structure in Pakistan is horrible and so is the PFF itself. They don't care about the progress of Pakistani football

Another thing is they try to get overseas Pakistanis to play which isn't a bad thing but long term you want your grass root level to be good as well which it is not

In regards to talent their is talent in the country but also politics take into team selections as well

We need to scout more players from lyari , Balochistan, south Punjab, and Gilgit has talented players as well even in the city of Saragoda I have Seen some really good players

You will never be able to build a proper team with talent and skills alone. In football, you need to have good game awareness, team work and fast decision making which is only possible if you've played organized football and played for a youth team since childhood. There's a reason why football freestylers never make it professional.
Most kids who play football in Pakistan may be talented and skillful but will have a hard time playing professional football because they've never played organized football and probably never played for a youth club either.
 
Pakistan should follow the Ajax system.

https://lastwordonfootball.com/2019/03/06/why-ajaxs-academy-is-the-best-in-world-football/

Invest a lot of money, open a network of youth academies across the country and by 'youth' we're talking 6, 7, and 8-year olds. Find kids with the best skills/drive for the game then give them best coaches from Europe and South America, give them access to the best trainers and nutritionists and you'll see them bud into international-level stars by adulthood.
 
You will never be able to build a proper team with talent and skills alone. In football, you need to have good game awareness, team work and fast decision making which is only possible if you've played organized football and played for a youth team since childhood. There's a reason why football freestylers never make it professional.
Most kids who play football in Pakistan may be talented and skillful but will have a hard time playing professional football because they've never played organized football and probably never played for a youth club either.

I agree with that but I also mentioned it with the grass root and having a proper league structure which the pff needs to implement
 
Pakistan Football is poor because of one person. Faisal Saleh Hayat.

Hayat was president of the PFF since 2003, and has been described as a "feudal lord of Pakistani football".

Pakistan's FIFA ranking dropped from 168 in 2003 to 201 in 2017 to I have no clue where it is now. Despite his disastrous results, Hayat refused to resign and continued to hold on to his position as president like a dictator. Hayat himself was also the middle of various corruption allegations involving PFF and a legal battle at Lahore High Court with a warring faction intent on seeing him removed from office.

There is a group that his trying to oust him. When they temporarily did, FIFA for some stupid reason suspended Pakistan. Now, it should be worth noting that the recent FIFA scandal plays a role. Sepp Blatter and Faisal Saleh Hayat were essentially helping each other out...he voted for him in a farce FIFA election back in the day, and so when Hayat was removed, he asked Blatter to step him.



Thankfully, FIFA stepped in as the old Sepp Blatter junkies have been removed and forced the removal of Faisal Saleh Hayat just a few weeks ago.

Normalisation committee appointed for the Pakistan Football Federation
https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/who...ppointed-for-the-pakistan-football-federation

The committee will oversee a proper election for PFF.

Otherwise, up until Hayat tookover, Pakistan Football wasn't doing all too bad. But from 2003 onwards it was nothing but a disaster.

THANK GOD HE'S BEEN REMOVED. SHAMELESS PR**K.
 
I agree with that but I also mentioned it with the grass root and having a proper league structure which the pff needs to implement

PFF has an entire structure.

Pakistan Premier League
A Division - 16 clubs

Football Federation League
B Division - 30 clubs

National Club Championship
C Division - 20 clubs

Karachi Football League (semi-professional)
D Division - 21 clubs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistani_football_league_system

I would argue it was better structured than cricket in Pakistan. The only problem was Faisal Saleh Hayat. This guy since 2003 ran the entire football system into the ground.

Under his tenure,
a. Department teams were not phased out in favour of club teams
b. No TV contract with PTV was signed

These two major issues dragged Pakistan Football to where it is today. THANK GOD he was removed by FIFA (see above post).

FIFA is going to takeover PFF and hold the next federation election. I have high hopes.
 
Pakistan is too busy with cricket and hockey. Don't think they care about soccer.

All South Asian teams are bad in soccer (including India).
 
Pakistan is too busy with cricket and hockey. Don't think they care about soccer. All South Asian teams are bad in soccer (including India).

In Balochistan and Gilgit-Baltistan, football is played more than cricket. In Punjab and KP you'll see dusty cricket pitches, in these areas you'll see dusty football grounds. Lyari (Karachi) is also a hotbed of footballing talent.
 
In Balochistan and Gilgit-Baltistan, football is played more than cricket. In Punjab and KP you'll see dusty cricket pitches, in these areas you'll see dusty football grounds. Lyari (Karachi) is also a hotbed of footballing talent.

That's good.

I would love to see competitive soccer teams from South Asia. Cricket shouldn't be only sport.
 
In Balochistan and Gilgit-Baltistan, football is played more than cricket. In Punjab and KP you'll see dusty cricket pitches, in these areas you'll see dusty football grounds. Lyari (Karachi) is also a hotbed of footballing talent.

there are countries with populations below 1m and they excel at football, pakistan has a large pop but only if we promote football in a few areas with proper investment, coaches and acadmies like in lyari, gilgit, chitral you can easily build a good network and a team.
 
there are countries with populations below 1m and they excel at football, pakistan has a large pop but only if we promote football in a few areas with proper investment, coaches and acadmies like in lyari, gilgit, chitral you can easily build a good network and a team.

The thing is that Pakistan doesn't even need to open academies all around Pakistan. Focus on building academies mostly in Balochistan, Lyari and the Northern Areas and to some extent Lahore and Islamabad.

Pakistan will be ranked 120-130 within a few years if that happens.
 
The thing is that Pakistan doesn't even need to open academies all around Pakistan. Focus on building academies mostly in Balochistan, Lyari and the Northern Areas and to some extent Lahore and Islamabad.

Pakistan will be ranked 120-130 within a few years if that happens.

Academies exist already. Problem was selectors and Faisal Saleh Hayat. Now that all the old trash have been booted out, I expect to see massive improvement.

They can at least return to 160 within the next year or so (pre 2003 rankings) and then we'll see how it goes from there.

I'm hopeful because FIFA stepped in to clean up this mess.
 
Running a football club for girls from poor families in a remote, mountainous area of Pakistan is hard enough at the best of times, let alone during a pandemic.

But footballer Karishma Ali has not let the coronavirus stop her pursuing her dream of helping girls in her impoverished native Chitral region, high in the Hindu Kush mountains, to have a better future.

The 23-year-old, who has represented her country at international football tournaments, said the pandemic had only made her more determined to give girls the opportunities often reserved for boys in Pakistan.

"Unlike boys, who could go out and play, girls remained cooped up, specially since even schools were closed," Ali told the Thomson Reuters Foundation by phone from Islamabad, where she has just completed a degree in business and management.

"Many had to help with household chores, which certainly was not much fun."

Ali started her high-altitude sports club two years ago with 60 girls aged between eight and 16, and now has nearly 150 members who ski, and play volleyball and cricket as well as football.

She hopes it can help them overcome the twin challenges of poverty and sex discrimination in a country where boys' education is prioritised, by helping them get sports scholarships in professional colleges.

It has not been easy - when the community discovered Ali's own football career, some were deeply hostile, and she received messages threatening to kill her if she continued.

"It was as seen inappropriate culturally because I would wear shorts, thereby baring my skin," she said.

The situation eased last year when she was selected for Forbes magazine's 30 Under 30 Asia list of rising stars, alongside tennis champion Naomi Osaka and K-Pop band Blackpink, and the community began to recognise her achievements.

Next month, 30 of the girls will have a week of training from professional coaches in Islamabad - something Ali said would be a "giant educational step" as most have never left their communities.

She has also raised funds for a van to take them to the field where they train - a two-hour walk from where they live - to escape disapproval from the community.

Her own family supported her dream of becoming a footballer, she said, calling her father a "feminist" who "believed in me when even I did not believe in me".

Society as a whole is less supportive, said Ali, who wants to see more state backing for sport in a country whose prime minister, Imran Khan, is a former cricket star.

She dreams of one day playing for a national team, but that will have to wait - Pakistan does not currently have a women's football team.

"I struggle every day myself," said Ali. "I work very hard at my end, but am not sure if the country's sports management is putting in the same effort."

If she has learned one lesson from her sporting career, however, it is this: "Fight no matter what, get up after a fall and be a leader," she said.
 
There are a fair few British footballers of good quality such as Nabi bros so a mystery really
 
Zidane Iqbal in the Utd academy is one to watch.

best name one could hope for, no pressure kid :D

fwiw if these kids are any good they will play for england, whats the point in playing for pakistan.
 
No amount of domestic development will see us from the SC compete against the rest of Asia right now. India has invested so much yet the best of ISL are physically, technically underwhelming against even the Central Asian teams like Tajikistan, Kyrgyz Republic forget Iran and Uzbeks

British/European imports are the way to go for South Asian teams. Unfortunately India doesnt allow them to play due to no dual citizenship. Though Pakistan can and you have some good players abroad ..Zidane Iqbal, Etzaz Hussain, Adil Nabi to name a few.
 
PFF has an entire structure.

Pakistan Premier League
A Division - 16 clubs

Football Federation League
B Division - 30 clubs

National Club Championship
C Division - 20 clubs

Karachi Football League (semi-professional)
D Division - 21 clubs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistani_football_league_system

I would argue it was better structured than cricket in Pakistan. The only problem was Faisal Saleh Hayat. This guy since 2003 ran the entire football system into the ground.

Under his tenure,
a. Department teams were not phased out in favour of club teams
b. No TV contract with PTV was signed

These two major issues dragged Pakistan Football to where it is today. THANK GOD he was removed by FIFA (see above post).

FIFA is going to takeover PFF and hold the next federation election. I have high hopes.

Faisal shah hayat is the number 1 reason everyone knows that

But regardless of this structure I feel it can be better also no grassroots development
Politics and corruption as well has killed the sport same like Pakistan hockey
 
best name one could hope for, no pressure kid :D

fwiw if these kids are any good they will play for england, whats the point in playing for pakistan.

Sadly he'll probably end up like Easah Suliman and Adil Nabi..
 
KARACHI: Almost eight years on from when the idea of holding a franchise football league in Pakistan was first conceived, a formal announcement came on Tuesday.

Not by the company which came with the initial proposal, nor by many others who’ve aspired to follow up on that idea and make it a reality. Also, not by the Pakistan Football Federation which is recognised by global football body FIFA.

Instead, it is the PFF led by Ashfaq Hussain Shah — one that came into power through an election of the country’s football governing body held by the Supreme Court — announcing it.

It will be holding it in a partnership with Global Soccer Ventures Limited, a company which was incorporated in March this year, days after Ashfaq’s PFF took over the PFF headquarters from the FIFA-appointed PFF Normalisation Committee in a move that saw Pakistan suspended from world football.

And GSV, with former K-Electric sports chief Zabe Khan as chief executive officer, has roped in some big-hitters to launch the six-team Pakistan Football League.

One of them is the former Manchester United International managing director Mike Farnan, who oversaw the club’s growth as a global marketing behemoth near the turn of this century and is joining the PFL as its chief operating officer.

Farnan wouldn’t delve into the politics which has plagued Pakistan football for the best part of the last decade but was hopeful that the league will help the national team return to the “FIFA family”.

“When this project was first proposed to me 18 months ago, I found it absolutely intriguing and the plan to launch a new league in Pakistan,” Farnan told Dawn on Tuesday.

“From a marketing point of view, you have a population of 220 million of sports-mad people. I found it massively encouraging to see a marketplace that had a huge, growing footballing fan base. For me, this was absolutely key in getting on board. The challenge of building a strong, well-structured football league in this country was something I couldn’t refuse.”

The key to making a franchise league work, though, is to make it commercially viable. Like cricket’s Pakistan Super League, which was first launched in 2016, it will involve a lot of money and investment and franchise owners will look for a return.

Likewise, there remains only little evidence that a franchise league can actually boost the development of the game in a country. But Farnan believes the system is in place to ensure that both the sporting and financial aspects are looked after in the PFL.

“The key to making anything commercially work is to have a clear plan in place,” he said. “Everything that is planned, is structured, has an opportunity to grow commercially. I believe we have that plan. I believe we have the people who can make this viable.

“My interest is building a league that is well-structured and well-organised, a league that is competitive and that will bring fans in their thousands to support it,” he added.

“This is the start. At the bottom of the pyramid, we’re building a grassroots programme that can work and support this league by bringing through young and talented players who can go on to do bigger things. The middle part is to ensure that the league works well.

“Finally, most importantly, [it is what it gives] to the nation. That Pakistan has all the right structures in place, both management and a plan, to make sure that the national team goes back into the FIFA family and qualifies for World Cups.”

Dawn has learnt that despite the FIFA ban, organisers remain confident that a successful first edition of the league will eventually led to recognition by FIFA and the Asian Football Confederation.

However, Kaleemullah, one of Pakistan football’s biggest stars, said he won’t take part in the PFL.

“I won’t take part in this league since it doesn’t have the endorsement of FIFA or the AFC,” Kaleem, who himself has been talking up the prospects of holding a franchise league on social media, told Dawn on Tuesday. “There is no clarity on what is on offer for the team that will win. There is no guarantee at this point in time about the winners going on to play in AFC club competitions.”

‘NEW ECOSYSTEM’

In the news release announcing the PFL, the PFF of Ashfaq said that a state-of-the-art stadium will be developed in the partnership with GSV while it will also focus to produce “ground-breaking international technical football collaboration with top clubs from Europe”.

“This collaboration ensures funds are injected into Pakistan for the right reasons and for Pakistani football players so the nation can get its domestic football in order first,” it added, reiterating its stance that the FIFA ban doesn’t matter as Pakistan has to improve its domestic structure first.

“The PFF has placed players at the heart of everything. PFL will help rebuild football in Pakistan by developing a new generation of players. It is designed to create a new football ecosystem.”

It’s been a rocky road to Ashfaq announcing the PFL, the move earlier seeing his vice-president Sardar Naveed Haider Khan resign from his post, saying the partnership with GSV was “a sellout”.

There has been little clarity on the deal but Dawn reported last month that the model proposed by GSV is similar to the one in neighbouring India, where IMG-Reliance secured all commercial rights to tournaments organised by the All Indian Football Federation for 15 years in 2010 and oversaw to the launch of the Indian Super League four years later. The ISL has since taken over the I-League as India’s top league competition.

The PFF will be offered Rs4,000,000 for each franchise, which will be sold by GSV for US$2milllion. All commercial rights, including broadcasting and sponsorship, will be with GSV with PFF receiving 12.5 per cent from the total revenue.

Naveed claimed that the PFF was “underselling” the rights.

Naveed was previously a marketing consultant during the long reign of Faisal Saleh Hayat — from 2003 up until the appointment of the NC in September 2019.

In 2013, he announced that the PFF would be holding a six-team inter-city franchise league after meeting with officials of Green Peak International, led by Salman Sarwar Butt, the former managing director of cricket’s PSL.

That plan never saw light of the day but over the last several years the idea of holding a franchise league has been floated numerous times by different parties in Pakistan. PSL franchise Peshawar Zalmi owner Javed Afridi and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa football official Shahid Shinwari have all stated their intentions of doing so.

GSV seem to have beaten them all to it, and also PFF NC chief Haroon Malik who also had designs on holding a league.

Last week, the PFF NC issued a strong-worded statement that “any entity which enters into a sporting relationship with an illegal parallel body [Ashfaq’s PFF] will be dealt with according to the relevant FIFA and PFF Statutes and any such act may carry serious consequences for the involved parties.”

Both GSV and Ashfaq — who became PFF president in a Supreme Court-held election in December 2018 — remain undeterred though.

Ashfaq’s PFF announced last week that the Pakistan Premier Football League (PPFL) will commence from later this month and it is expected that the inaugural season of the PFL will follow soon after.

Published in Dawn, August 4th, 2021
 
Many years back I remember how excited I was when Graham Roberts the former Spurs, Rangers and England defender joined Pak football side to assist the coaching staff. Thought a high profile figure like him joining would gave Pak Football great hope. Suffice to say he left without making any impression at all.
 
There is only one manager who can sort out Pak Football. His name is Steven Gerrard one of the greatest players off all time:11:
 
there is no hope for pakistan football.

a six team franchise league does nothing to develop local talent. need tens of millions of dollars of investment in coaches and kids at grass root level to maybe become a top 100 football nation.

as much as id like to see pak play football, should bite the bullet and just focus on other sports.
 
Cricket is still the most professionally run sport in Pakistan and that tells you alot about the other sports.

Precisely.

There doesn't seem to be much comprehension about organised sport in Pakistan, I imagine it's not that different to how we used to play at school where you put down two sweaters to mark the goal.
 
Former English football player Michael Owen has signed a three-year deal to become the official ambassador of the Pakistan Football League (PFL), according to a media release from Global Soccer Ventures (GSV).

"Owen will take the reins of Pakistan football to help devise a strategic partnership programme by uniting the nation with the might of football in England. Owen will reveal the PFL logo from the home of football in England in October," the statement reads.

It added that he is scheduled to visit Pakistan to conduct a series of football master classes and formally unveil PFL's logo.

Owen's "hybrid role" will include creating a global professional gateway for new Pakistani footballers who can adapt to the modern form of the game.


"Pakistan’s football potential is huge and I am excited about identifying untapped talent in a nation of 220 million. I am looking to cross-promote and develop football between UK and Pakistan through the first ever franchise model league — The PFL," the media release quoted Owen as saying.

Meanwhile, GSV CEO Zabe Khan said he was "pleased" to see the English athlete playing an important role in charting a new era of football for Pakistan. "This is a striking partnership to help Pakistan move the goal posts to international development of football," he said.

Owen was the "crown jewel of Liverpool", according to the media release, and also won the Ballon d'Or in 2001.

"Pele hailed Owen as one of the world’s greatest living players in the current era. With his wealth of experience, Owen has embarked on a journey to uncover a new crop of talent and form priceless partnerships to create a player franchise gateway programme," the media release stated.

Owen began his career with Liverpool FC as a schoolboy and went on to be their top goal scorer from 1997 until he moved to Real Madrid in the summer of 2004. After spending a year in Madrid, he returned to England to join Newcastle United.

In 2009, Owen joined Manchester United on a free transfer and after three years at Old Trafford, he joined Stoke City where he retired at the end of season 2012/2013.

"His rise to glory started when he netted on his senior debut for Liverpool in 1997 against Wimbledon and the young English starlet made his debut for the England senior team in 1998 making Owen the youngest player ever to represent England."

The statement said a kickoff date and full league schedule would be announced soon.

It added that new franchise teams would soon be awarded for Karachi, Lahore, Quetta, Islamabad, Peshawar and Multan. "[The teams] will see a new era of football taking huge strides to develop football to international standards," it said.

'Pakistan's first franchise-based domestic league'
The Pakistan Football Federation (PFF) led by Ashfaq Hussain Shah had signed a partnership with GSV in August to launch the PFL and upgrade the infrastructure for football in the country.

The press release issued for the announcement had said that the new venture would also entail the construction of a state-of-the-art "flagship" stadium in Karachi.

GSV also roped in some big-hitters to launch the six-team PFL — one of them being former Manchester United International managing director Mike Farnan, who oversaw the club’s growth as a global marketing behemoth near the turn of this century, joining the PFL as its chief operating officer.

DAWN
 
Not really. Kerala was the only southern state where football was way bigger than cricket. But the IPL bringing in a Kerala team and Sreesanth, though he was based in Bengaluru, changed that and now it seems cricket is quite big there.

Bengal also was crazy about football but they had Eden Gardens and I guess cricket has also always been huge there.

Football was also quite popular in Goa (Dempo Sports) and Punjab (DCM Phagwara).
 
Pakistan to establish its first soccer city stadium in Karachi in collaboration with GSV

KARACHI: Global Soccer Ventures, looking to launch a franchise football league in Pakistan, have entered into a US$12million 10-year agreement with NED University of Engineering & Technology to set up a ‘Soccer City’ Stadium, it was announced in a news release on Tuesday.

It said that the reveal of the stadium plan is due to follow at the end of this month but Dawn understands that the deal will likely see the transformation the NED University’s football ground into a stadium which will host the matches of the Pakistan Football League, the six-team franchise league announced by GSV last year.

Although there is no start date for the PFL, the infrastructure for it is being developed with GSV claiming that the Soccer City will “offer FIFA international playing conditions and an enduring football experience for fans and players with a raft of marketing and technology opportunities for brands”.

“I have seen the science and evolution of football on offer and it will be a major transformation for football in Pakistan,” NED University vice-chancellor Dr. Sarosh Hashmat Lodhi was quoted as saying in the news release.

Former England striker Michael Owen, who is the brand ambassador for GSV, added that the Soccer City “would not only ignite inter-city football rivalry but will also become the future of football development all over Pakistan”.

GSV had entered into a long-term deal to hold the PFL with the court-elected Pakistan Football Federation of Ashfaq Hussain Shah, which isn’t recognised by FIFA.

But Ashfaq’s PFF has since been forced out of its office with the FIFA-appointed PFF Normalisation Committee set to be handed back the headquarters of the country’s football governing body which would see the lifting of the FIFA suspension on Pakistan in place since April.

GSV, though, has crucially secured backing from the government to launch the PFL which is modeled on cricket’s highly-popular Pakistan Super League.

Published in Dawn, January 5th, 2022
 
For the reason that Pak is terrible at almost all Sports. Obsession with Cricket means a lack of funding in other Sports. It is a grass roots problem that is not being addressed by anyone. Plenty of Footballing talent in Baluchistan and Karachi that could be nurtured and polished if the government really cared. We live in hope.
 
Rawalpindi Express Shoaib Akhtar kicked off a life-changing career opportunity for 20 super talented Pakistani football players. The initiative is spearheaded by Global Soccer Ventures (GSV) NexGen Soccer Trials in collaboration with Kamyab Jawan Sports Drive.

According to a statement issued in this regard, the road to the United Kingdom and Ireland has now become unstoppable with the world’s fastest bowler, Akhtar, setting his sights to helping fast track football in Pakistan.

Akhtar will also offer a transformational role to help shape the future of football in Pakistan with GSV. The trials are being heavily invested into by GSV in Pakistan offering the very first UEFA scouting assessment on a national level in Pakistan to talent ID in 10 cities across 11 venues to subsequently offer life-changing careers through professional football contracts in Ireland.

The tour also includes four master classes in Karachi, Islamabad, Quetta, and Lahore to develop local football coaching expertise to European standards under St Patrick’s Football Club development programme.

At least 15-25 coaches have been selected on merit to attend masterclasses to help up-skill their football coaching methods and transfer skills so they become certified train-the-trainers in Pakistan leaving a sustainable roll-out plan under Kamyab Jawan Sports Drive.

Talking about the initiative, the Chairman of GSV Yasir Mahmood said: “Football is here to stay for the right reasons to develop and provide an opportunity for Pakistani players. With Akhtar as an iconic cricket legend well regarded around the world will help play a transitional role in making football become on top of the minds of our nation."

Meanwhile, CEO of GSV Zabe Khan said: “The only lifeline a player has and that is to play. Pakistan has seen nothing but football being swiped off its so-called grassroots."

"I welcome Shoaib Akhtar standing shoulder to shoulder with GSV offering a new hope for Pakistan’s next-generation football players," he added.

British Deputy High Commissioner Allison Blackburne said: “Football is not just a sport, for many in the UK it’s a way of life, and it would be great to see it become more popular in sport-loving Pakistan.

He further said: "I’m delighted that talented young players here in Pakistan will have this opportunity provided by GSV to learn from some of the best UEFA coaches through St Patrick’s Athletic Football Club."

On the other hand, Belgian UEFA licensed coach Karel Freaye said: “Football is for everyone and I am looking for talent with the potential to develop and grow into professional players in Europe.

With the trial registrations rising by the hour, he said that he is excited to see what football technical excellence Pakistan has to offer with football.

On the other hand, SAPM on Youth Affairs and Chairman Kamyab Jawan Program Usman Dar said: “The revival of sports is the top priority of Prime Minister Imran Khan’s Government. I welcome GSV in their efforts for reviving football in Pakistan.

"PM’s Kamyab Jawan Programme together with GSV will ensure that through football talent hunt we will produce the next football Kamyab Jawan heroes who will represent Pakistan nationally and internationally," he expressed.

President of St. Patrick’s Football Club Garret Kelleher expressed: "It is simply wonderful that the resources are now being put in place in Pakistan to allow football inspiring those with a passion for the game to fulfil their dreams and aspirations just like Shoaib Akhtar has in the world of cricket representing Pakistan at the highest level."

Talking about the sports, CEO of Itel Zeeshan Yousuf said: “What excites me the most about this legacy project of GSV is the prospect of changing lives of 20 successful kids who will be on a life-changing journey to Europe.

Appreciating the initiative, he further said that Pakistani talent has the once in a lifetime opportunity to get groomed and secure professional contracts to take on the world, as they get set to represent Pakistan internationally.

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Country’s cricketing star Shoaib Akhtar has embarked on a life-changing career opportunity for 20 super talented Pakistani football players with his talent hunt for sports talent in collaboration with Global Soccer Ventures (GSV) NexGen Soccer Trials and Prime Minister Imran Khan’s Kamyab Jawan Sports Drive.

According to a statement issued, the road to the United Kingdom and Ireland has now become invincible as Akhtar sets his sights on helping fast track football in Pakistan.

Akhtar will also offer a transformational role to help shape the future of football in Pakistan with GSV.

The trials are being heavily invested into by GSV in Pakistan offering the very first UEFA scouting assessment on a national level in Pakistan to talent ID in 10 cities across 11 venues to subsequently offer life-changing careers through professional football contracts in Ireland.

The tour also includes four master classes in Karachi, Islamabad, Quetta, and Lahore to develop local football coaching expertise to European standards under St Patrick’s Football Club development programme.

At least 15-25 coaches have been selected on merit to attend masterclasses to help up-skill their football coaching methods and transfer skills so they become certified train-the-trainers in Pakistan leaving a sustainable roll-out plan under Kamyab Jawan Sports Drive

Shoaib Akhtar said, “I will do everything in my sphere of influence to ensure football is no longer neglected in Pakistan. It has been like an orphan since the 1950s, homeless and kicked around by various bandits. I will make sure football resurfaces professionally and ethically for the benefit of Pakistani players.”

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2339261/shoaib-akhtar-begins-talent-hunt-with-pms-kamyab-jawan-gsv
 
Christian Karembeu brings the trophy to Pakistan - but will it have any effect on enthusiasm for the game in the country?
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The Pakistan Football Federation (PFF) acquired the services of Brazilian goal-keeping coach Marcelo Costa Schroeder, it emerged Monday.

Marcelo has joined the men’s team camp which is underway in Lahore.

In 1994, following the completion of his undergraduate studies at Moura Lacerda University, he began working for the São Paulo Cup for Junior Soccer. In 1997, he continued to coach soccer for Green Planet.

He holds several international coaching certifications in addition to a wealth of professional experience. From February 2019 to November 2019, he was the Pakistan national team's goalkeeping coach during the World Cup 2022 Qualifying.

He got his Goalkeeping Level 3 Coaching Certification from (Asian Football Confederation), Goalkeeping Coaching Course from CBF (Brazilian Football Confederation), German methodology Goalkeeping Coaching Course from QFA (Qatar Federation Association), and -FIFA Goalkeeping Coaching Course in 2010.

Sharing his views, Marcelo Costa said: "It is a great pleasure for me to rejoin the Pakistan team as a goal-keeping coach. I am thankful to the Pakistan Football Federation (PFF) which trusted my abilities and provided me with an opportunity to train the goalkeeper according to international standards," he added.

"I will share all my experience with this team and my tactics to make them the matchless side of Asia. No doubt, the boys have the potential and with proper guidance and training, they can be made the toughest side for the opponents," Marcelo said.

He further said that my first priority is to further polish the strength of green shirts.
 
Inspirational speech as Pakistan play their first international game after 3 years.

Pakistan returned to international football after a gap of more than three years in a FIFA friendly game against the Asian opponents at the Dasharath Stadium in Kathmandu.

However, the game ended in a 1-0 loss to the Shaheens as Nepal's Anjan Bistan netted the only goal of the match to lead the home side to victory.

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the pff logo is hideous, glad to see pak playing competitive football again tho.
 
KARACHI: Former Pakistan national football team captain Essa Khan believes that the national side can qualify for the FIFA World Cup in 2030.

However, Essa, who scored 11 goals in 36 appearances for Pakistan, says that the dream of playing the World Cup can only be achieved if decisions are based on merit.

“The World Cup will be increased to 48 teams from 2026 which gives Pakistan a good opportunity to qualify for the event. Even if Pakistan can’t qualify for 2026 World Cup, I’m hopeful that they can make it in 2026 if merit is promoted and all the stakeholders are on the same page,” said the 38-year-old.

Essa was also unimpressed with the Pakistan Football Federation Normalisation Committee’s decision to play a friendly against Nepal, which the Shaheens lost 1-0.

“Playing a friendly match against Nepal was a waste of money,” he said. “Including diaspora players in the squad also damaged the confidence of local players.”

Anjan Bista scored the winner as Nepal beat Pakistan by 1-0 at the Dasharath Stadium in Kathmandu.

This was Pakistan men's team's first international match in more than three years.

The foreign players which had joined Pakistan’s squad included Hassan Bashir, Adnan Yaqoob, Abdullah Iqbal and Yousuf Butt. All four players currently ply their trade in Denmark’s club football.

FIFA lifts ban on PFF
Pakistan’s return to the international arena was possible after FIFA had decided to lift ban on the Pakistan Football Federation (PFF), which was imposed in April 2021 due to undue third-party interference, in June earlier this year.

FIFA also extended the mandate of the Normalisation Committee (NC) by 12 months.

According to FIFA, the mandate of the normalisation committee includes the managing of PFF’s daily affairs, ensuring the proper registration and scrutiny of the clubs in Pakistan, draft and ratify, with the assistance of FIFA and the AFC, an electoral code for the PFF, organise the elections at district followed by provincial levels and conduct the elections of a new PFF executive committee.
 
there is no hope for pakistan football.

a six team franchise league does nothing to develop local talent. need tens of millions of dollars of investment in coaches and kids at grass root level to maybe become a top 100 football nation.

as much as id like to see pak play football, should bite the bullet and just focus on other sports.

Yeah, more than football we should focus on hockey and cricket. Being 4x world champions in hockey, still the highest number of titles in the sport, we should look to improve the state of hockey above things like football, a sport in which we never had a foot in, no pun intended.
 
As the Fifa World Cup kicks off in Al Khor’s Al-Bayt Stadium on Sunday, there will also be fireworks going off above the Gul Baloch Football Ground in Siddiq Village as the Baloch residents of this little Malir neighbourhood perform traditional dances.

As has been happening every four years here, the place is already wearing a festive look, literally. The walls have been whitewashed for the village’s two artists to paint the faces of the most popular players and flags of all the nations playing in the mega event, though there seems to be a particular fondness for Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy and Portugal here.

The Gul Baloch Football Ground is owned by the Gul Baloch Football Club. There is a big screen installed in the ground to screen the World Cup matches. “During the Uefa Europa League, we put up a screen on the top floor of our club building but this is the World Cup so we are expecting a bigger crowd,” says Rashid Abdul Razzak, who owns the Gul Baloch club.

The club has played a big role in fueling football talent among the local youth. Bilal Baloch, an under-18 player from here, now plays for Bremen City in Germany. Two more locals, Pir Baksh and Waseem Mohammad are playing in football clubs in Iran while another youngster, Yaseen Baloch, plays for Karachi United.

Narrow lanes and houses are decorated with participating teams’ flags and buntings, as if Siddiq village hosts the matches

Razzak says that you encounter unique individuals, all great football fans, in Siddiq Village. There is Ghulam Murtaza, a fitness enthusiast, whose favourite football team happens to be Germany, and he has learnt the German language, too. The house he lives in is called German House and its entrance is covered with the German flag. Another person who speaks Italian has Italy as his favourite team. You also run into Maqdoom Murad Baloch, a rap artist, who raps about his favourite teams.

BUNTINGS of flags from teams competing in Fifa Cup adorn a lane in the village.—White Star
And there is the famous samosa and pakora seller, Mama Brazil, too, here, who after closing his little shack now sells from a pushcart. In the morning he sells the salted snacks to bus drivers and factory workers who pass by the place and after that the same pushcart is used for selling the football country flags and jerseys that he gets from the thrift market or Lunda Bazaar, to sell here as cheap memorabilia.

For the last 18 days, Sajid Ali, who has a video games shop, has been closing his shop at around midnight and coming to Siddiq Village to paint World Cup countries’ flags, players’ pictures and all kinds of designs on all the walls in the vicinity till Fajr prayers. “I then head home to grab some sleep until Zuhr after which it’s back to my shop and back here,” Sajid shares his routine of the past two-and-a-half weeks. He is himself a fan of France and wanted to paint lots of French flags along with pictures of his favourite footballer Antoine Griezmann but he also makes sure to listen to everyone else’s requests, too.

You see his art almost everywhere except for one narrow lane which displays art by a young woman, Dr Sabina Hussain. The young optometrist doesn’t want to take the entire credit for her art. She says that her husband too has painted some of the pictures there. The couple are quite football crazy. She is a Germany fan and he is a Brazil fan. The lane is decorated by Sabina alone since 2006 when she was a little girl and now she has her husband by her side. “This time we painted keeping in mind to turn this place into a Mini Qatar. Earlier, there has also been a Mini Russia, Mini Brazil, Mini South Africa and Mini Germany,” she laughs.

You turn around to admire the place as you prepare to leave. For any lover of the game, there is so much here to take in and appreciate -- the art, the panaflex prints, the different flag bunting, Mama Brazil etc. Siddiq Village is a football wonderland in Malir!

Published in Dawn, November 20th, 2022
 
One thing I observed is that Indian diet does not allow for strong bodies. I am assuming it’s the same for Pakistan too. Low quality food will not let bodies develop to their full potential. Stunted growth is a big problem in South Asia.

Also, football is not a popular sport. Game is too slow for the audience. Even Americans find it boring. After 2 hours of play, if the score is 0-0, it’s hard to gain popularity among masses.
 
One thing I observed is that Indian diet does not allow for strong bodies. I am assuming it’s the same for Pakistan too. Low quality food will not let bodies develop to their full potential. Stunted growth is a big problem in South Asia.

Also, football is not a popular sport. Game is too slow for the audience. Even Americans find it boring. After 2 hours of play, if the score is 0-0, it’s hard to gain popularity among masses.

I bet if by some miracle india qualifies for the World Cup. Soccer would be very popular in India all of a sudden
 
One thing I observed is that Indian diet does not allow for strong bodies. I am assuming it’s the same for Pakistan too. Low quality food will not let bodies develop to their full potential. Stunted growth is a big problem in South Asia.

Also, football is not a popular sport. Game is too slow for the audience. Even Americans find it boring. After 2 hours of play, if the score is 0-0, it’s hard to gain popularity among masses.

u gain interest for sports during childhood, it gets passed down from parents to kids mostly, especially playing to high technical level in childhood invariably involves playing with older relatives. even in the UK ive rarely met die-hard football fans of pakistani origin, and despite producing boxers and cricketers, no pakistani footballer has come close to being national quality.

this is why pak should focus on the sports it can leverage, i.e. non-team sports like wrestling, MMA, weight lifting, boxing, etc for which there is already some local untapped interest.
 
You need major sponsors and academies to nurture talent from a young age. Ambani seems to have taken a shine to it and is investing in India. China started it a couple of decades ago. But it will take a few decades before India can qualify to the WC. China can qualify in the next WC because of 48 teams. The best Asia could muster so far are SK and Japs and they are bang on average at the world stage. You need thousands of coaches with tens of thousands of kids passionately working on their games from a very young age.
 
One thing I observed is that Indian diet does not allow for strong bodies. I am assuming it’s the same for Pakistan too. Low quality food will not let bodies develop to their full potential. Stunted growth is a big problem in South Asia.

Also, football is not a popular sport. Game is too slow for the audience. Even Americans find it boring. After 2 hours of play, if the score is 0-0, it’s hard to gain popularity among masses.

Football is not a popular sport in India? You must be kidding. They are just not fans of mediocre football that Indian team plays.

160 million football fans in India
In January this year, a YouGov survey conducted on behalf of the Indian Super League club FC Goa showed that there are 160 million football fans in India. The passion for the sport clearly exists, it’s just a matter of where it’s being channelled.
 
KARACHI: Aiming to induct a handful of more overseas players in coming months Pakistan’s senior men’s football team head coach Shehzad Anwar on Saturday said that his brigade is ‘complete’ and it just needs exposure before the 2026 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers to be held later this year.

“Our team is complete in every respect and what we need is exposure. I am confident we will be able to prepare a solid lot for the World Cup Qualifiers,” Shehzad told 'The News' in an interview after returning from Maldives where Pakistan lost 1-0 in their one-off game against Maldives in Laamu, Gan, on March 21.

This was the second international friendly from Pakistan during the last four months after their first in November 2022 against Nepal in Nepal which also heralded the country’s return to international circuit after long three years.

“We have six goalkeepers and of them three are seniors and three under-22. We have also approached UAE-based goalie Hamza Zahid, who plays for Al-Rams Club, and he will also be available for us for the June FIFA window,” Shehzad revealed.

“Easah Suliman, a defender, who plays in Portugal, will also be available in June. He has completed his documents,” Shehzad said.

“Attacking midfielders Otis Khan from Grimsby Town, which featured recently in the FA Cup, and Adil Nabi, who plays in Athens, will also be with us in June,” the coach said.

“We have time at our disposal and in the meantime if we get any home-grown experienced player in his top shape then we will welcome him to the squad,” Shehzad said when asked whether there will be any room for the experienced footballers to return to the side ahead of the SAFF Cup and World Cup Qualifiers.

Shehzad said it is expected that his charges will be able to get ten to 12 matches before the World Cup Qualifiers which is the main target of Pakistan.

Shehzad said that he has already given training programme to the boys who have now gone to their homes after the Maldives game.

“But still we plan to train some boys in Lahore during Ramadan and we will work on some specific areas. And from May 1 we will hold a proper camp at Lahore,” Shehzad said.

“In that time-frame we will release those players who will feature from their respective units in the National Games and after the end of the biennial domestic event they will join us again,” he added.

About getting India’s visas for the SAFF Cup Shehzad said that he does not think there should be any issue.

“I hope they will give us visas,” said Shehzad, a pro license coach.

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Pakistan can win the SAFF Cup if it can get 5-6 overseas players.
 
Pakistan can win the SAFF Cup if it can get 5-6 overseas players.

Well the talent is there, but remember that Football is a team sport. Many of the players will be playing for the first time together. Need to build up chemistry.
 
Ranking does not necessarily reflect the quality of the team/players. Pakistan is ranked 195th just below Tonga.

Look at the players of current Tonga team and compare them to the overseas players we will soon have available.

Pakistan will have players like Etzaz Hussain, Adil Nabi, Easah Suliman, Otis Khan, Harun Hamid, Abdul Arshad and Mohammed Adnan for the World Cup qualifiers in October this year. By looking at the players you will be amazed to see that this a 195th ranked team. You have teams that are ranked 50-60 places above that do not have players of this quality. You can check for yourself.
 
Ranking does not necessarily reflect the quality of the team/players. Pakistan is ranked 195th just below Tonga.

Look at the players of current Tonga team and compare them to the overseas players we will soon have available.

Pakistan will have players like Etzaz Hussain, Adil Nabi, Easah Suliman, Otis Khan, Harun Hamid, Abdul Arshad and Mohammed Adnan for the World Cup qualifiers in October this year. By looking at the players you will be amazed to see that this a 195th ranked team. You have teams that are ranked 50-60 places above that do not have players of this quality. You can check for yourself.

I've not really followed these guys are they any good?
 
I've not really followed these guys are they any good?

Etzaz, I believe played for Molde. The rest I think play in division 2 (4 th league in the English league system).

For the level of SAFF and AFC, they will be very good. They could at least help in Pakistan qualifying for the Asian Championship. For comparison, Baichung Bhutia one of Indias greatest strikers played for a team in the 3rd league system of English football in the 90s.
 
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Etzaz, I believe played for Molde. The rest I think play in division 2 (4 th league in the English league system).

For the level of SAFF and AFC, they will be very good. They could at least help in Pakistan qualifying for the Asian Championship. For comparison, Baichung Bhutia one of Indias greatest strikers played for a team in the 3rd league system of English football in the 90s.

Which teams do they play for..I'll follow them next season as I'm here in the uk
 
Etzaz, I believe played for Molde. The rest I think play in division 2 (4 th league in the English league system).

For the level of SAFF and AFC, they will be very good. They could at least help in Pakistan qualifying for the Asian Championship. For comparison, Baichung Bhutia one of Indias greatest strikers played for a team in the 3rd league system of English football in the 90s.

I think Pakistan have had these kinds of players in the past. Unfortunately what tends to happen is that their game drops when they are in Pakistani shirts.

Perhaps they arent used to the conditions and temperature in Asia.

Hopefully this lot is different.
 
Has Etzaz Hussain really been selected, or just rumours?

Also, anyone know if the boys will get the visas for India for the Saff Cup?
 
Has Etzaz Hussain really been selected, or just rumours?

Also, anyone know if the boys will get the visas for India for the Saff Cup?

He will be available in October for World Cup Qualifiers. He's documentation is currently in progress.

The boys will most likely get Visa's for the SAFF Cup. India has already made it public that they are welcome.
 
He will be available in October for World Cup Qualifiers. He's documentation is currently in progress.

The boys will most likely get Visa's for the SAFF Cup. India has already made it public that they are welcome.

Well that's very good to hear! I used to follow Pakistani football a lot back in my childhood, and we always spoke about if ever "one of us" (Pakistani diaspora in Norway) would represent Pakistan. Very interesting move. There was another player who did play an international match for Norway and even scored a goal some years ago, but he got to play as our whole A team was rested for some reasons I don't remember. (I think they were unavailable due to covid-19 regulations and quarantine rules at that time?)

Unluckily we did not win that game. If we had, he would have become a hero as it would have helped us qualify for the Euro's I think.

Great news about the visa's! I have actually bookmarked the date for Pakistan vs India in my calendar! :)
 
Lost 3-0 to Mauritius. I hope people can understand why we need more overseas players. Our "local" left back was extremely sloppy making basic mistakes. I have seen 15 year old school boys play better.
 
0-0 at half time, but then totally lost it after the break. Sad to see... Kenya will be tough, but should be able to beat Djibouti, no?
 
I've not really followed these guys are they any good?


Well it depends on what you choose to define as "good". Some fans are expecting them to play like prime Brazil. That is obviously not going to happen.

I would say that for South Asian standards they are "very good" while for AFC standards they are "good". This squad will be good enough for Pakistan to qualify for AFC Asian cup 2027. You could not really ask for more at this point

Etzaz Hussain- Most successful full blooded Pakistani player on the planet who eligible to play for Pakistan. Currently worth 600k Euro on transfermarket. To put things into perspective that is lmost double the value of the most expensive Indian player Lallianzuala Chhangte. Plays as a central midfielder for Apollon Limassol in Cyprus. Strong in passing, dribbling, taking free kicks, blocking the ball...

Adil Nabi: Spend 11 years at West Bromwich Albion academy. Played for England U17, U18. Among the most valuable players in South Asia with a current market value of 300k Euro. He's a good player with a lot of skill. He has quick feet and is very good in front of goal. Also a very technical player.

Easah Suliman: Best Pakistani defender by far and possibly the best CB in South Asia. First player of Asian origin to captain a English youth team. Scored in the final for England U19 when they won the Euros in 2017. Good at aerial duels, tackling, good stamina, intercepting the ball... Plays as CB for U.D. Vilafranquense in the Portugese second division on loan from Vitória S.C. who play in Portugals first division.

Otis Khan: Good player although he has been hyped up by Pakistani fans. Current market value of 150K Euro. Played for Manchester United's youth team for over a decade. Plays for Grimsby Town in Englands 4th division. Good at finding key passes, crossing, dribbling, decent pace...

Harun Hamid: Plays for QPR U21. Plays similiar style to Jude Bellingham. Remember him dribbling past 4 Maldives players effortlessly. Very talented young player. Does not have a current market value on transermarket.

Abdul Arshad: Plays for HB Køge in Danish 1st division. Not seen much of him but has a current market value of 150k Euro which means he is good for South Asian standard.

Mohammed Adnan: Used to be a very good player 3-4 years ago. Had a peak value of 300k Euro on transfermarket in June 2018. By far the most talented Pakistani player from Denmark. Sadly dude had personal issues one of them being gambling... He destroyed his own career. Watching him against Mauritius he is not the same player anymore. Good bench option though.
 
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