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Will Australia be whitewashed in all three Asian nations?

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Four-zip in India, Two-zip in the UAE and now that Lanka have stood up in the third innings of this test the chances of a comeback appear slim.

Pity they didn't tour the Desh as well - would've been interesting.
 
Aus in deep trouble against Lankans, after 1st innings debacle, great come back from SL.

I won't say white wash is coming, but it will be hard for Aus to survive in such conditions.
 
Not in Bangladesh where theyll win and not in SL. In UAE and India yes
 
It would be one of the weakest Lankan team incase they lose the test!
 
Warner khwaja and burns should learn from smiths determination. If there batters play the patient game they would do better in Asia. Would still be difficult to win in Asia
 
Even India were surprised by Chandimal in our first test, where he scored 160 in difficult 3rd innings. We couldn't chase 160 odd and were bundled out for 110 where we should have won by an innings. I see that this test is going in a similar direction. Needless to say, India won that series 2-1.
 
Both India and Pakistan also lost a test to Sri Lanka on their last tours against a similar strength Lankan Test side. So should not be a surprise if Aussies lose a test as well.
 
nish_mate said:
OZ should tour BD more often to improve their Asian record
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Australia pls come to Bangladesh....we are eagerly waiting for u to tour....this time we will show how to make ur asian record worse...pls come to bd
 
Sandeep said:
Even India were surprised by Chandimal in our first test, where he scored 160 in difficult 3rd innings. We couldn't chase 160 odd and were bundled out for 110 where we should have won by an innings. I see that this test is going in a similar direction. Needless to say, India won that series 2-1.
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But the umpires also played a part in the Chandimal partnership that eventually won them the match.
 
The Last Of The Stars said:
Khawaja is overrated, and very vulnerable.
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Warner is even more over rated, but who cares. He is good at blasting on absolute belters, & he is going to play majority of matches on those tracks. We can over look few times when he would face Edbaston or Kandy ......
 
MMHS said:
Warner is even more over rated, but who cares. He is good at blasting on absolute belters, & he is going to play majority of matches on those tracks. We can over look few times when he would face Edbaston or Kandy ......
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Warner got the highest score from both teams during the only time he played a test in Edgbaston.
 
All these non Asian teams are poor away from home.

Aus in particular is hopeless against any decent side. They focus too much on being a home track bully.

And even their home pitches have become total flat. I miss the days they were considered a force.

Don't think anyone takes them seriously away now. :\

Same case for England against Pakistan. They're hopeless against us. But continue to own India in India.
 
If Aussies get whitewashed in this series , they should be stripped of no.1 ranking.Maybe England should hold it for the time being until India can rightfully claim it in December.
 
Sachin136 said:
Warner got the highest score from both teams during the only time he played a test in Edgbaston.
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Yes, a 60 ball 80, in 2nd innings when he threw bat at every thing, after 2 in 1st innings Next Test at Trent bridge same as well - duck on 1st morning & then 60+ in Day three.

He is an opener, and do you see anything beyond stats?
 
Pakistan will be the only team to win at home and away, Test series win against England, followed by a series win in Australia.
 
THey will be competitive in Sl since SL is as poor as they come.

Will be comprehensively whitewashed in the UAE and India however.
 
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One good performance, which is as yet incomplete by the way and also came on the back of Australia losing a bowler, does not do much to improve my faith in this Sri Lankan team. Australia would have to be incredibly poor to allow themselves to be whitewashed.

No doubt India will hammer Australia at home though.
 
We messed up big time preparing green tops that only we ended up batting on.

I said it before the first Test, we should have prepared turners.

We play spin better than Aus and our spinners would have been more than enough for the Aussies (just have a watch of the ODI series before the Tests that was played on slower wickets).
 
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1-down, two more to go.

Who is the Boxing Day test against this year? Warner needs to score 215* and Australia have to be 528/6 (d)!
 
Aman said:
We messed up big time preparing green tops that only we ended up batting on.

I said it before the first Test, we should have prepared turners.

We play spin better than Aus and our spinners would have been more than enough for the Aussies (just have a watch of the ODI series before the Tests that was played on slower wickets).
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Is it so easy to prepare "turners" in NZ?
 
Australia need to bounce back. Warner Khwaja and Burns have to improve. Smith can score once he is set.
 
By the way, just checked and it looks like today's win was just the 2nd win for Sri Lanka against Australia in test matches. The last one was back in 1999 at Kandy. How long will Lankans have to wait for their 3rd win? :murali
 
They will bounce back. This is a kick to the nuts for them to wake up. Sri Lanka team is still very unsettled.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Easily the most overrated batting unit in the world, can only score in flat tracks.
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Honestly, they have just two batsmen.

Smith is genuinely world class, but yes Warner is the most overrated batsman in the world. He is rubbish against any swing or spin, but on pitches with pace and true bounce, he's extremely dangerous.

Cook over Warner any day in Test cricket.
Vijay is also a more well-rounded opener.
 
Sachin136 said:
Security issues are lame excuses?
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There was actually no serious security issue out there.Australian football team toured our country after cricket Australia took that decision of postponement.
 
Pfft....they can't even compete a la the West Indies over the past week.

Soon to be 0-2 in Lanka and 0-8 in Asia overall.
 
Losing wickets like nine-pins again. :91:
 
Number 1 Ranked Australia looking all set for 8th Defeat in a row in Asia

Now this is really weird for a Team ranked number 1 in Tests. They are looking all set to face 8th defeat in a row here in Asia.

0-4 in India

0-2 in UAE vs Pak

and now it looks like they are up for another defeat in SL after losing the first match.

We bash Asian teams all the time for their failures overseas but what are the non asian teams like Australia / England achieving when visiting Asia?

More than decade now and England didn't win a single Test against Pakistan in Pakistan/UAE.

Australia is finding it hard to even draw a Test in Asia this is their 3rd tour of Asia in last 3 years.

Last but not the least when is The Ashes starting? :P
 
Also remember Pak, India and SA all 3 managed to won Test series in SL during their last tours.
 
Every single team is htb these days. It's not even the fault of the players, the fault is in the system. This whole format relies too much on wickets/conditions and doesn't give the touring team a chance to compete.


This format doesn't have any future.
 
ICC should heavily focus on limited overs Cricket if they want to make cricket a global sport.


At least limited overs format of cricket provides reasults rather than a meaningless draw after five days of useless cricket and it's competitive enough to attract a wide range of spectators from allover the world.
 
Prince_ said:
Every single team is htb these days. It's not even the fault of the players, the fault is in the system. This whole format relies too much on wickets/conditions and doesn't give the touring team a chance to compete.


This format doesn't have any future.
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What if PAK wins or draws this series ?
 
Prince_ said:
At least limited overs format of cricket provides reasults rather than a meaningless draw after five days of useless cricket and it's competitive enough to attract a wide range of spectators from allover the world.
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Are you serious? When was the last time there was a draw in a non-rain affected game?
 
This is hilarious.

Love it when Lanka wins.

This is truly an era of "bullies at home, minnows away".
 
So Lanka have rocketed past 300 in the first innings of the final test.

Reckon they've got enough to last Australia two innings already.
 
There you have it then. Three-zip.

India: 0-4 (4)
UAE: 0-2 (2)
Lanka: 0-3 (3)
 
I think If Australia play in Bangladesh and bat second , they are likely to loose , unless Starc produces dream spell.
 
Justcrazy said:
I think If Australia play in Bangladesh and bat second , they are likely to loose , unless Starc produces dream spell.
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Australia v Bangladesh in Bangladesh is a mouth watering prospect. Pity the series didn't happen.
 
My casual observation is that there is really no major consequences for Australia doing poorly in Asia.
They lost 4-0 in India....They got rid ok Mickey Arthur
They lost 2-0 against Pakistan, nothing happened. (well not nothing, there was talk of giving additional points to Sheffield Shield teams batting out 100 overs)
They've lost 3-0 to Sri Lanka and it seems like nothing will happen.
Lehman has been confirmed as coach till 2019. A cursory look at the news commentary tells you that some of the guys who were left out for the third test will be back against South Africa....and then some thinking about taking 3 spinners to India. You would be forgiven for thinking that unless it happens in India for the cricket administrators it doesn't really matter).
You cannot fault this mindset to an extent because (a) as long as Australia can come out on top against traditional pace reliant teams (south Africa, England, New Zealand) at home or away and as long as (b) they win at home there really is no point of thinking of spin bowling as a key requirement of the game whether batting or bowling.
Take the contrast of England right now who have lost to Pakistan: there is much made of the fact that England need to manufacture a spinner and spin competent batsmen because England lost a couple of matches. You would not have heard any of this talk if England had won this series. In fact after Old Trafford, Athers and Hussain commented that hopefully the groundsmen understand the message that for England to win they need bouncy pitches with minimal lateral movement. Of course that turned out to be the wrong conclusion because the Oval pitch had even more bounce than Old Trafford.
Which brings me to point about the Pakistan tour to Australia. Other than correcting an abysmal record, they can ensure that CA has to front up to deficiencies that can be swept under the carpet as something that "happens when we tour Asia"
Of course that's a big if. but one thing is for sure, having watched the dismissals of Australian batsmen to straight deliveries, Yasir Shah is in for a good time. But for that, his batsmen need to shake off their generational deficiencies on Australian wickets.
 
WhenSultansBowled said:
I'd back a fit Mustafiz and BD Spinners to defend 180+ against all sides (Pak and India including) in 4th innings in BD.
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No ways bro. They were miserable when we toured them last time around. Bagladesh has a long way to go in test cricket.

We were 283/0 and eventually lost only 6 wickets despite scoring at ~4.5/over. It also has something to do with the fact that Bangladesh played with 7 batsmen + keeper when there was lot of rain expected. Disappointing minnow mentality.
 
Pete Rose said:
My casual observation is that there is really no major consequences for Australia doing poorly in Asia.
They lost 4-0 in India....They got rid ok Mickey Arthur
They lost 2-0 against Pakistan, nothing happened. (well not nothing, there was talk of giving additional points to Sheffield Shield teams batting out 100 overs)
They've lost 3-0 to Sri Lanka and it seems like nothing will happen.
Lehman has been confirmed as coach till 2019. A cursory look at the news commentary tells you that some of the guys who were left out for the third test will be back against South Africa....and then some thinking about taking 3 spinners to India. You would be forgiven for thinking that unless it happens in India for the cricket administrators it doesn't really matter).
You cannot fault this mindset to an extent because (a) as long as Australia can come out on top against traditional pace reliant teams (south Africa, England, New Zealand) at home or away and as long as (b) they win at home there really is no point of thinking of spin bowling as a key requirement of the game whether batting or bowling.
Take the contrast of England right now who have lost to Pakistan: there is much made of the fact that England need to manufacture a spinner and spin competent batsmen because England lost a couple of matches. You would not have heard any of this talk if England had won this series. In fact after Old Trafford, Athers and Hussain commented that hopefully the groundsmen understand the message that for England to win they need bouncy pitches with minimal lateral movement. Of course that turned out to be the wrong conclusion because the Oval pitch had even more bounce than Old Trafford.
Which brings me to point about the Pakistan tour to Australia. Other than correcting an abysmal record, they can ensure that CA has to front up to deficiencies that can be swept under the carpet as something that "happens when we tour Asia"
Of course that's a big if. but one thing is for sure, having watched the dismissals of Australian batsmen to straight deliveries, Yasir Shah is in for a good time. But for that, his batsmen need to shake off their generational deficiencies on Australian wickets.
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That's what Pakistani batsmen will need to do consistently in Australia. If we fold for under 300, then Warner/Smith will build easy lead (no matter how good Yasir/Amir bowl) and an innings defeat can be on cards.
 
WhenSultansBowled said:
That's what Pakistani batsmen will need to do consistently in Australia. If we fold for under 300, then Warner/Smith will build easy lead (no matter how good Yasir/Amir bowl) and an innings defeat can be on cards.
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I have some hope because of how we fared in England. They need to find a way to draw/win that first test match, which will be the most challenging pitch. Azhar Ali should feel happy about opening in Australia; suits his batting stance.
 
So, this aussie team is getting trashed around in all the 4 nations of Asia, next time anyone questions the subcontinental team about their overseas record they should be slapped with australia's record in asia in the last 10 years.
 
India was lucky to win that series. A session in Australia's favour in the last match and they would've lost.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
India was lucky to win that series. A session in Australia's favour in the last match and they would've lost.
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ifs and buts

if azhar wouldn't have ran sami out pakistan could have saved th edgbaston test and beaten england 2-1

had sun shone in abu dhabi for 10 more mins england could have been 1-0 up

with a bit of luck pakistan could have won the melbourne test as well

australia fought valiantly in india but in the end the better team won the series and it was not down to luck
 
Third_Umpire said:
Happy to see BD doing well against Australia, hope they can finish the job off.
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If we don't do what west indies did we have a good chance. West indies took wickets of no balls dropped dollies. Missed easy run out chances. You need to be really mediocre to let a team batting 3rd score 480+
 
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