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Will India tour Pakistan in 2023(Asia Cup) and 2025(Champions Trophy)?

Will India tour Pakistan in 2023(Asia Cup) and 2025(Champions Trophy)?

  • They will only come for the Asia Cup in 2023

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • They will only come for the Champions Trophy in 2025

    Votes: 2 13.3%

  • They will come for both events

    Votes: 7 46.7%

  • They will not send a team to Pakistan for any of these events

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • Total voters
    15
If it was a world cup then I think they would. However I don't think they will for the Asia Cup (which is a crap tournament although I'm glad Pak are hosting) or the Champions Trophy.
 
At this point of time we shoould be in a "aam khaao gitli mut gino" mode... a few weeks ago it seemed like game over for pcb...
 
Highly doubtful but things can change - it all depends on the political situation between Pakistan and India.
 
Sep 2023/ Asia Cup
Apr 2024/ General Elections in India

No way India will tour Pakistan ahead of the general Elections. BJP would never take that step.

I would be less surprised if India tours for CT than I would for Asia Cup, as the CT is after the elections whereas the Asia Cup is just months before the elections. BJP would not want to get in the bad books
 
I think they will

Jay Shah, son of Amit Shah is up to something
 
2023 is near impossible. 2025, only if Congress is in power.

But i think the template has been set with India hosting the 2021 T20 WC in UAE. Pakistan will likely do the same.

TBH if all other countries are ready to tour pakistan, except India, I think the CT should go ahead in Pakistan only and ICC should allow India to skip it.
 
cricketjoshila said:
2023 is near impossible. 2025, only if Congress is in power.

But i think the template has been set with India hosting the 2021 T20 WC in UAE. Pakistan will likely do the same.

TBH if all other countries are ready to tour pakistan, except India, I think the CT should go ahead in Pakistan only and ICC should allow India to skip it.
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You can’t set the precedent of allowing a nation to skip a tour. It will open a never closing door.
 
cricketjoshila said:
2023 is near impossible. 2025, only if Congress is in power.

But i think the template has been set with India hosting the 2021 T20 WC in UAE. Pakistan will likely do the same.

TBH if all other countries are ready to tour pakistan, except India, I think the CT should go ahead in Pakistan only and ICC should allow India to skip it.
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In that case India should play in UAE. In CT a team plays just 3 games (in group stage). So India playing 3 games in UAE wouldn’t be a problem
 
Why would India even skip it? Didn't Pakistan play in India during 2011 world cup and 2016 T20 world cups? In an ICC tournament teams must be punished for political based backing out, regardless if the team is India or Pakistan.
 
Rana said:
You can’t set the precedent of allowing a nation to skip a tour. It will open a never closing door.
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Well, pretty sure BCCI has already negotiated a outlet for itself. If not, they will before they sign the MPA.

As a Pakistani you should want the tournament to be in pakistan, whether India play or not, rather than shifting to UAE because India wont tour.
 
I want to tell one thing to my indian brothers if Pakistan can play in india 2023 then there shouldn't be any issue for india to play in Pakistan
 
Kohli said:
In that case India should play in UAE. In CT a team plays just 3 games (in group stage). So India playing 3 games in UAE wouldn’t be a problem
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What about the Knockouts? If india qualify?

What about the other teams? Will the entire group be hosted in UAE?
 
Azzurri said:
Why would India even skip it? Didn't Pakistan play in India during 2011 world cup and 2016 T20 world cups? In an ICC tournament teams must be punished for political based backing out, regardless if the team is India or Pakistan.
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Yeah I think it’s ridiculous to think India will skip it. It will just lead to Pakistan skipping all India based ICC tournaments especially if Ramiz is still the chairman. Not sure the ICC can handle a tournament that loses the interest of the global fan following of Pakistan.
 
Sunny_majoka said:
I want to tell one thing to my indian brothers if Pakistan can play in india 2023 then there shouldn't be any issue for india to play in Pakistan
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I don’t think our ‘Indian brothers’ care or think of it like that im afraid.
 
cricketjoshila said:
What about the Knockouts? If india qualify?

What about the other teams? Will the entire group be hosted in UAE?
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I don’t think India would have problem travelling for a game as it’s an ICC tournament.

No, I don’t think travelling from Pak to UAE once would be a problem for teams.
 
Azzurri said:
Why would India even skip it? Didn't Pakistan play in India during 2011 world cup and 2016 T20 world cups? In an ICC tournament teams must be punished for political based backing out, regardless if the team is India or Pakistan.
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What punishment? At best ICC will withold BCCI'S share from that tournaments earnings. BCCI will be willing to take that hit.
 
If other countries come and India don't, tournament should still go on.

Cricket is not just about India.
 
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Rana said:
Yeah I think it’s ridiculous to think India will skip it. It will just lead to Pakistan skipping all India based ICC tournaments especially if Ramiz is still the chairman. Not sure the ICC can handle a tournament that loses the interest of the global fan following of Pakistan.
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Pakistan can too skip, if they want. But pakistan will lose its proportionate share from ICC for skipping 3 tournaments.

BCCI will lose its share too for skipping the CT 2025.

As things stand today, If Modi is re elected and Imran in pakistan, forget about any cricket.
 
Kohli said:
I don’t think India would have problem travelling for a game as it’s an ICC tournament.

No, I don’t think travelling from Pak to UAE once would be a problem for teams.
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The government of India has to agree. They give no damn about ICC.
 
cricketjoshila said:
The government of India has to agree. They give no damn about ICC.
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It’s not just government of India. It’s a known fact that “government” of every country HAS to agree.

I already did talk about government. I am not talking about governments here. It’s nothing new.

I expected u to be much smarter smh
 
no and no.
on social media and other forums our beloved parosis are already saying that they will pressurize indian govt to not take part in Pakistan in any ICC event. so it wont happen in Pakistan, we all know.
 
Kohli said:
It’s not just government of India. It’s a known fact that “government” of every country HAS to agree.

I already did talk about government. I am not talking about governments here. It’s nothing new.

I expected u to be much smarter smh
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For the Indian team to travel to Pakistan, the Indian government has to agree. I doubt they will if things remain the same.
 
Poseidon said:
no and no.
on social media and other forums our beloved parosis are already saying that they will pressurize indian govt to not take part in Pakistan in any ICC event. so it wont happen in Pakistan, we all know.
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Why can't the ICC take some losses and hold the event in pakistan, without India?
 
cricketjoshila said:
For the Indian team to travel to Pakistan, the Indian government has to agree. I doubt they will if things remain the same.
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That’s the basic and we all know that. For every country it needs to happen. I think they’ll let India travel for a one off game (FINAL), under the statement “it’s an ICC tournament” which is already used to play Pak in ICC tournaments
 
Not in 2023 with the Indian elections the following year.

Peace between India/Pakistan suddenly springs from nowhere so there is a chance in 2025
 
cricketjoshila said:
For the Indian team to travel to Pakistan, the Indian government has to agree. I doubt they will if things remain the same.
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Indian government will have no problem playing against Pakistan in a neutral venue then? If that is right why do we not play a bilateral series against Pakistan in UAE? There shouldn't be any excuse to play in UAE after hosting IPL and our World Cup there? Whenever this topic comes, one can see the hypocrisy by both Indian government and BCCI on this. Real cricket fans want to see India vs Pakistan cricket matches. :inti
 
Kohli said:
That’s the basic and we all know that. For every country it needs to happen. I think they’ll let India travel for a one off game (FINAL), under the statement “it’s an ICC tournament” which is already used to play Pak in ICC tournaments
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If Modi is in power. Then don't think India will travel to Pakistan.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Indian government will have no problem playing against Pakistan in a neutral venue then? If that is right why do we not play a bilateral series against Pakistan in UAE? There shouldn't be any excuse to play in UAE after hosting IPL and our World Cup there? Whenever this topic comes, one can see the hypocrisy by both Indian government and BCCI on this. Real cricket fans want to see India vs Pakistan cricket matches. :inti
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they are also saying if it held in UAE hosted by Pak thn boycott it also.
 
Kohli said:
But I highly doubt CT will take place in Pak, given the security concerns. It’ll mostly be held in UAE
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If other countries object, then i will shift to UAE.

If only India refuses, then it will be unfair on pakistan to shift the tournament to UAE.
 
Kohli said:
It happens every time before the match vs Pak, and even before this World Cup it did. So it’s nothing new
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There were isolated voices opposing the match. But visiting pakistan is a different thing altogether.
 
Kohli said:
And those voices won’t mean much when BJP (will be re-elected in 2024) as usual would just say “it’s an ICC tournament”
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2025 will have elections in various states plus UP election in 2026. Doubt BJP will agree. Esp. with Imran in power in pakistan.
 
I will be absolutely thrilled if the Indian govt decides not to send their team to Pakistan.

It's probably going to be Yogi Aditiyanath as the Indian PM, and it will be great to see if he holds his party's torch to display BJP's political drama of selling "hate against Pakistan" to peddle their political goals.

It will also be great to see having a global cricket tournament without India.

Pakistan has a big population and HUGE following of cricket, so this tournament will be a success without India.
BCCI can shove it's bragging of being a cash rich board, the World Cricket can go on, and this tournament will be an indicator.
 
If they come they’ll be welcome if they don’t they won’t be missed an overrated white ball team anyway lol
 
BCCI can shove it's bragging of being a cash rich board, the World Cricket can go on, and this tournament will be an indicator.[/QUOTE]

Well if that were the case then PSL would have been a huge success. No country as of now can match what India brings to the table in terms of finance. The ones who can do - China, USA are least interested. The ICC doesn't run on charity. It needs India and the Indian market. Jingoism won't help Pakistan.
 
Well in terms of white ball tournament trophies its way ahead of your team. So where does this bravado come from ...... a single win against India in the world T20 :srt

Mirpur express said:
If they come they’ll be welcome if they don’t they won’t be missed an overrated white ball team anyway lol
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Vildoc said:
Well in terms of white ball tournament trophies its way ahead of your team. So where does this bravado come from ...... a single win against India in the world T20 :srt
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If one were to go by Indian media, Indian fans, then India had already won against Pakistan and the T20 W cup 5 weeks ago.
 
In other word as Ramiz Raja said " 90 per cent” of ICC revenues are dependent on India and if the country decides to stop the funding, PCB can collapse but their delusion fan's want ICC tournament to go ahead without india.lol :qdkcheeky
 
Colorblind Genius said:
Pakistan has a big population and HUGE following of cricket, so this tournament will be a success without India.
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Ramiz Raja himself said that Indian businesses are indirectly funding the PCB. Take India out and you take out millions of dollars in sponsorship money. Who's going to make up for that? Chockaa Pan Masala?
 
Devadwal said:
In other word as Ramiz Raja said " 90 per cent” of ICC revenues are dependent on India and if the country decides to stop the funding, PCB can collapse but their delusion fan's want ICC tournament to go ahead without india.lol :qdkcheeky
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Delusional fans are on both sides. For example some of them from India also think that IPL can survive without international players. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Delusional fans are on both sides. For example some of them from India also think that IPL can survive without international players. :inti
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No IPL will not survive without top class international players but FACT IS THAT INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS NEED IPL SAME AS IPL NEED INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS .
 
India should tour pakistan for champion trophy but don't care about Asia cup as it is a useless tournaments where only two team are strong. Hopefully after CT India -pakistan bilateral series will resume. How i can forget india tour of pakistan in 2004. Remembered each event of that tour like it's happened yesterday .
 
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Kohli said:
That’s the basic and we all know that. For every country it needs to happen. I think they’ll let India travel for a one off game (FINAL), under the statement “it’s an ICC tournament” which is already used to play Pak in ICC tournaments
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India wont travel to Pakistan mate, period. One off game, one day game or one hour game all that dosent matter. Bottomline is, Indian cricket team wont tour Pakistan. Even if govt wants they cant give permission for the team to travel as it will create backlash within India and opposition will rip apart the govt. They are still targetting Modi for that couple of hours when he went to Pakistan and attented Nawaz Sharif's sons marriage. Also general Indian public is not very fond of playing with Pakistan. I am not talking about cricket fans like us but majority of Indians dont want anything to do with Pakistan including cricket. Before this T20 world cup game, there were many protests and pressure on govt/BCCI to cancel the game. In this situation If govt gives permission for cricket team to travel to Pakistan....people will percieve them as weak and might stop voting for them.

So the only option is India to play all games in UAE or skip the tournament all together. Though the later is not very reasonable as an ICC tournament without India meaning broadcaster will not agree with it. Star Sports reportedly lost crores of rupees just bcoz India didnt made it to semi finals this time. So hosting an ICC tournament without India will be a massive loss for broadcasters. ICC need to find a middle ground and host all India games in UAE. If India manage to reach finals, it should be hosted in Dubai and not in Lahore.
 
cricketjoshila said:
The government of India has to agree. They give no damn about ICC.
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Looks like the only man in the forum is either too happy with this announcement or he is too sad , I think the second option is right, take it easy , it happens, Paksitan is going to do great in many fields you shouldn't stress yourself out.Not good for the health.
 
I'm gonna make a prediction and say they will come. It will be massive. People in Pakistan are gonna go nuts if the Indians come. They will be overwhelmed with the response they gonna get. If they do come it will be one of the biggest CT tournaments ever..

I have a feeling that Modi might not get an outright majority next time and IK might win again. This is where diplomacy will play out. Things are moving very quickly and INdia can see geopolitical changes happening fast. They have already asked us to resume the composite dialogue etc but KHAN said no until the kashmir situation can be looked at..I mean the August one. I think we gonna see this happen..
 
Rajdeep said:
Forcing my opinion on you? :)))

I am just stating the ground reality. Personally I have no issue with Indian team touring Pakistan and thrashing them in Gaddafi Stadium. It will bring back the memories of that 2004 tour.

But the reality of all is India wont travel due to present situation between the two countries. No forcing of opinion here...lol.
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I didn’t ask ur opinion. According to me they’ll tour for a one off match if the CT does happen in Pak (which I doubt it will)
 
Colorblind Genius said:
I will be absolutely thrilled if the Indian govt decides not to send their team to Pakistan.

It's probably going to be Yogi Aditiyanath as the Indian PM, and it will be great to see if he holds his party's torch to display BJP's political drama of selling "hate against Pakistan" to peddle their political goals.

It will also be great to see having a global cricket tournament without India.

Pakistan has a big population and HUGE following of cricket, so this tournament will be a success without India.
BCCI can shove it's bragging of being a cash rich board, the World Cricket can go on, and this tournament will be an indicator.
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According to Rameez Raja, Majority of ICC revenues come from India and pakistani population means little when the economy is 280bn only.
 
I think this is Pakistan's chance to make a statement that they can stand without India if India decides not to tour. Imagine stadiums stuffed full of green shirted fans. The security issues will be a memory in 23 barring outright war or a February 27th incident. It's time for Pakistan to build an image of more than just a safe place to play-that it is a lucrative place to play. That more than anything else will eventually put Pakistan-India cricket relations back on the map because BCCI will start badgering GOI about missing out on the fun and money.
 
zn426 said:
I think this is Pakistan's chance to make a statement that they can stand without India if India decides not to tour. Imagine stadiums stuffed full of green shirted fans. The security issues will be a memory in 23 barring outright war or a February 27th incident. It's time for Pakistan to build an image of more than just a safe place to play-that it is a lucrative place to play. That more than anything else will eventually put Pakistan-India cricket relations back on the map because BCCI will start badgering GOI about missing out on the fun and money.
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If India organizes a India A vs India B vs India C or a IPL with only India players, it will have more eyeballs and sponsors than the CT in pakistan.

You must be really delusional if you think bcci needs pakistan to earn money.
 
DRsohail said:
Looks like the only man in the forum is either too happy with this announcement or he is too sad , I think the second option is right, take it easy , it happens, Paksitan is going to do great in many fields you shouldn't stress yourself out.Not good for the health.
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I have already said that pakistan should host the CT in pakistan.

But India has the right to decide if they will plsy or skip the tournament.
 
cricketjoshila said:
I have already said that pakistan should host the CT in pakistan.

But India has the right to decide if they will plsy or skip the tournament.
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Boycotting world events are not allowed in the ICC.

At best, India will need to raise the issue with the ICC and sort out the issue.

"Skipping tournaments" is a foolish thing to say.
 
cricketjoshila said:
If India organizes a India A vs India B vs India C or a IPL with only India players, it will have more eyeballs and sponsors than the CT in pakistan.

You must be really delusional if you think bcci needs pakistan to earn money.
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I see that you are struggling with reading comprehension skills and selective reading. Let's state it another way, since you clearly didn't get it the first time.

I am advocating for Pakistan to be a power on its own in cricket. I am advocating that Pakistan should see to it that every home series, Asia Cup, and the champions trophy should be packed to the brim with Pakistan fans. That is what gives Pakistan market power on its own and shows further that Pakistan is not in need of India. Home cricket has returned to Pakistan. It will continue in Pakistan. New stadiums are on the way, safety is no longer a concern as Pakistan has hosted multiple tours safely over the last six years.

It is at that time, when Pakistan becomes a cricket power due to the lucrative nature of playing cricket in Pakistan, that will bring Pakistan and India to level terms and and force the BCCI to make a decision. And if BCCI wants to miss out on the world's largest sporting rivalry, they are more than welcome. Pakistan will continue further without issue as the domestic base will continue to generate money for Pakistan cricket.

EDIT: And I should add that passion of any kind, whether hatred or love, defines sporting rivalries.
 
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Devadwal said:
No IPL will not survive without top class international players but FACT IS THAT INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS NEED IPL SAME AS IPL NEED INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS .
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International players can survive without IPL. May be you are not aware of this but there was international cricket before IPL. :inti
 
cricketjoshila said:
When did India asked to resume composite dialogue and Khan said no?

India isnt interested in any dialogue and Modi will be signing his political death warrant if he engages with pakistan again.

There will be no compromises on Kashmir. No government is going to do that and that door has been firmly closed.
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Back channel discussions. The Indian side wanted to restart dialogue without kashmir and Pakistan said no. I have a feeling by 2025 a compromise will be achieved.
 
Asia Cup won't happen in 2023.

The evil BCCI will postpone it.
 
My bigger concern is will we have a good 10-12 stadiums ready for the CT. We cant just hold the CT in 3-4 stadiums only. The PCB needs to work on a war footing to get the stadiums up to International Standards
 
Savak said:
My bigger concern is will we have a good 10-12 stadiums ready for the CT. We cant just hold the CT in 3-4 stadiums only. The PCB needs to work on a war footing to get the stadiums up to International Standards
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You don't need that many for the CT. England hosted in 2017 as I'm sure you know and they had 3 venues.
 
Savak said:
My bigger concern is will we have a good 10-12 stadiums ready for the CT. We cant just hold the CT in 3-4 stadiums only. The PCB needs to work on a war footing to get the stadiums up to International Standards
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3 venues are enough for CT....it's a short tournament with only 15-16 games

Eng hosted 2017 CT using only 3 stadiums...
The Oval, Birmingham, Cardiff
 
I know it's unlikely but I hope Rameez and Saurav would sit down for a talk and strike a deal of playing the Indian games in Delhi, Mohali, Jaipur etc, where it's hardly a one hour flight for the travelling teams from Lahore/Islamabad.

The only other alternatives are playing the India games in UAE , India pulling out of the tournament (highly unlikely) or the whole tournament getting shifted to the UAE.
 
UzmanBeast said:
Boycotting world events are not allowed in the ICC.

At best, India will need to raise the issue with the ICC and sort out the issue.

"Skipping tournaments" is a foolish thing to say.
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If Indian government doesn't allow the Indian team to go, ICC cannot do anything.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I think we should have skipped the T20 World Cup 2021 because of the way our team performed this time. :inti
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His reply was not right, I specifically asked him not to get worried , not good for his health lol.He is behaving like BCCI chairman here .
 
Mesozoic said:
I know it's unlikely but I hope Rameez and Saurav would sit down for a talk and strike a deal of playing the Indian games in Delhi, Mohali, Jaipur etc, where it's hardly a one hour flight for the travelling teams from Lahore/Islamabad.

The only other alternatives are playing the India games in UAE , India pulling out of the tournament (highly unlikely) or the whole tournament getting shifted to the UAE.
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If all other teams agree to play in pakistan, why should matches be shifted out for India only?
 
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