Will Pakistan & India change their line-ups based upon the weather forecast for the 23 October clash

[mon858]

Will Pakistan & India change their line-ups based upon the weather forecast for the 23 October clash

I guess its either a wash-out or at most a very few overs match.

Minimum we can have 5 over match. So assume its a 5 over match or 8 over match, what line-up would you go with and batting order. I am sharing for Pakistan, feel free to share for India, or potentially any other teams as we are likely to see other shortened games as well.

Playing XI in batting order:
1. Haider
2. Fakhar
3. Nawaz
4. Asif
5. Shadab
6. Wasim Jr.
7. Babar
8. Rizwan
9. Naseem
10. Haris
11. Shaheen

Bowling:
1: Shaheen
2. Naseem
3. Shadab
4. Wasim
5. Haris

Who would your picks be, and what do you think our management would do in such circumstance?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

I hope they are able to think out of the box and do not send Rizwan n Baber to open, with Shan Masood one down and Khushdil Shah two down to “stabilize” the innings.

Asif Ali n Nawaz should open with Haider one down and Wasim Jr two down.

 

[Rajdeep]

Pant
SKY
DK
Pandya
Rohit
Axar
Ashwin
Harshal
Shami
Bhuvi
Arshdeep

 

[TheSultan]

Rizwan and Babar will go in to conserve wickets. After all we need to ensure we’re not all out

 

[jnaveen1980]

KL Rahul will open. A free mind KL Rahul is very very dangerous.

 

[MenInG]

I guess its either a wash-out or at most a very few overs match.

Minimum we can have 5 over match. So assume its a 5 over match or 8 over match, what line-up would you go with and batting order. I am sharing for Pakistan, feel free to share for India, or potentially any other teams as we are likely to see other shortened games as well.

Playing XI in batting order:
1. Haider
2. Fakhar
3. Nawaz
4. Asif
5. Shadab
6. Wasim Jr.
7. Babar
8. Rizwan
9. Naseem
10. Haris
11. Shaheen

Bowling:
1: Shaheen
2. Naseem
3. Shadab
4. Wasim
5. Haris

Who would your picks be, and what do you think our management would do in such circumstance?

Pakistan management is not known for lateral thinking.

 

[MenInG]

Thinking a bit more - all that can be done is a change in batting order - not much more can be done about the players we have.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Pant
SKY
DK
Pandya
Rohit
Axar
Ashwin
Harshal
Shami
Bhuvi
Arshdeep

too many bowlers and less hitting ability.

If its a rain shortened 8-10 ov slog fest, we need 4 or at max 3.5 bowlers. the strategy is to pack with batsmen.
Id'd go for
KL
Rishabh (get the lh rh combo)
VK - to bat thru if openers fail...chances are high as ball will swing
Hardik
sky
rohit
dino (playing the extra batter give u insurance)
ash (if it seams it will spin - Ash with his experience is mandatory now that jads is not here)
axar (his lh could be an advantage if he gets to bat in the last over or so, can be sent earlier than ash)
Hopefully we are on a big score batting first or chased well batting 2nd and the guys below dont need to bat.
Mo shami
arshdeep

 

[Ab Fan]

Rohit
Pant
SKY
Pandya
DK
KL
Axar
Harshal
Bhuvi
Shami
Arshdeep

Batting depth till 8 and 6 bowlers. Don't need spinners here unless he can slog like Axar.

 

[Rana]

If it does turn into a 10-13 over slogfest

I would be more tempted to bring in Dahani, Hasnain into the XI as potential sloggers. They have a better chance of connecting with the ball and clearing the boundary as compared to Khushdil on the bench

 

[Deewana Mastana]

A lot of people on SM hoping it is rained off.

 

[AAli98]

Match should be 0.4 overs 4 bowlers bowling 1 ball each.. Afridi should come out of retirement & face those 4 delivery’s.

 

[shaz619]

Match should be 0.4 overs 4 bowlers bowling 1 ball each.. Afridi should come out of retirement & face those 4 delivery’s.

0 off 1 ball - Afridi

 

[Major]

asked in pavilion,

Malik thinks, opener stay same, but you can change the batting from middle, dont change oepner.

Misbah says the same, and Misbah adds Shadab and Nawaz wil play a big role and bring in form players like babar and rizwan

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Rizwan should be moved down the order.

Fakhar and Bobby to open.

Asif 1 down

Nawaz /Haider 4

 

[Cover Drive Six]

No batting changes from our side. Our top order batsmen are capable of hitting.
Bhuvi and Siraj are good in overcast conditions.
Only one spinner is enough, play with Axar over chahal.

 

[asadee]

According to Misbah and Malik Riz and Babar should still open with Nawaz and Shadab next

 

[MenInG]

No need to mention bookmakers etc on PakPassion.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

No batting changes from our side. Our top order batsmen are capable of hitting.
Bhuvi and Siraj are good in overcast conditions.
Only one spinner is enough, play with Axar over chahal.

Siraj is not even in the squad...

 

[Snowflake]

I don't think we're going to get a single over in. It looks terrible in Melbourne

 

[Concerned]

Pant
SKY
Pandya
Rohit

That’s a solid line up for 10 overs. Pakistan have no equivalent

 

[NeVerMind]

Sunday's BBC Weather forecast for Melbourne: Thick Cloud. Max 19°Celsius, min 13°Celsius. https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2158177

BBC weather saying it is overcast but no rain predicted as of now...

 

[Anis Shivani]

Ha ha ha, very funny!
Even if it were five overs, it would be Rizwan and Babar to open, are you kidding?
I have totally lost interest in the World Cup, I hope not to watch the India-Pak match.
The Rizwan Babar stubbornness killed it for me. I never cared for T20s anyway, but that was the coup de grace.
I guess I'm not a real fan.

 

[Slim]

KL Rahul will open. A free mind KL Rahul is very very dangerous.

Big IF.

 

[Sarwar89]

Match will take place & this time Pakistan will beat India with even more confidence, as was the case in Australasia cup final in 1994. Where Pakistanis were so much sure of win despite scoring 250, which was 15-20 runs short of their real aim. Or Asia cup Group stage 1995, where Aquib just knew he will run through them.

Sunday’s game will restore Pakistan’s confidence of beating india in any situation back to 1995 & backwards. Their fluke win in Bangalore 96, restored parity afterwards specially Toronto 4-1 win & indepedence cup dhaka ( kanitker). We want those beautiful days back prior to 1996. Those glorious days of Rothmans cup 89 when pakistan defeated india in final & then 2 weeks later again defeated india in nehru cup at Eden Gardens. Or crushing 5-1 odi away series win in india (87) even 1 game they won was actuslly a tie.

 

[ex-q-zit]

My Indian line-up would be:

Rohit
KL
VK
SKY
Hooda
Hardik
DK
Bhuvi/Axar
shami
Arshdeep
Chahal

In a rain shortened match we dont need 6 bowling options as each bowler may be needed to bowl only 1-2 overs. I am surprised Hooda is not chosen by most people. Hooda is destructive batsman. I would send him ahead of SKY n Hardik if spinners are bowling at that time. VK too is a must as he can steady the ship at one end if openers get out early while the hitters can go bang bang. Pant has not been so successful as an opener so I prefer Hooda over him who can even bowl an over if needed.

My Pakistani line-up would be as follows:

Fakhar/Shan
Babar
Rizwan
Nawaz
Shadab
Ifti
Asif
Waseem Jnr
Haris
Shaheen
Naseem

There can be a toss-up between Shan and Fakhar depending on who is fit. If Shan is fit I would go with him. Fakhar though has an image of a hitter his s/r is around 128 and avg of 28. with the overcast conditions Fakhar may not deliver. Shan on the other hand is more eqipped to handle the conditions and picks the gaps in the 2-3 overs of PP.

Rizwan will be a floater who will come at 3 only if an early wicket falls. Else it will be Nawaz and Shadab followed by Rizwan and others.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Match will take place & this time Pakistan will beat India with even more confidence, as was the case in Australasia cup final in 1994. Where Pakistanis were so much sure of win despite scoring 250, which was 15-20 runs short of their real aim. Or Asia cup Group stage 1995, where Aquib just knew he will run through them.

Sunday’s game will restore Pakistan’s confidence of beating india in any situation back to 1995 & backwards. Their fluke win in Bangalore 96, restored parity afterwards specially Toronto 4-1 win & indepedence cup dhaka ( kanitker). We want those beautiful days back prior to 1996. Those glorious days of Rothmans cup 89 when pakistan defeated india in final & then 2 weeks later again defeated india in nehru cup at Eden Gardens. Or crushing 5-1 odi away series win in india (87) even 1 game they won was actuslly a tie.

Its funny that you compare different eras and different formats of the game. The skill level of the Pakistani team in 90s was a different level compared to the skill level of the current team especially the batting. That was a team with the likes of saeed anwar, aamir sohail. inzamam etc. While the Indian team was a one-man army especially until Sourav n Dravid arrived.

Now coming to this world cup. Its important to note that toss is not as important a factor this time around as was in Dubai were the team winning the toss won the match. So that evens thing out for both teams as they can enter the field without a handicap. If its a full 20 over game then both teams start at 50-50. But if its a rain-curtailed match then the more shorter it gets it tilts more towards India as India has more power hitters compared to Pak. Especially hitting in autralia needs skill not slogging.

I hope the Pakistani team is not as over-confident as you are. A 10 wicket victory doesn't happen everytime. This time around its going to go to the wire like the 2 encounters few weeks back.

 

[Sarwar89]

Its funny that you compare different eras and different formats of the game. The skill level of the Pakistani team in 90s was a different level compared to the skill level of the current team especially the batting. That was a team with the likes of saeed anwar, aamir sohail. inzamam etc. While the Indian team was a one-man army especially until Sourav n Dravid arrived.

Now coming to this world cup. Its important to note that toss is not as important a factor this time around as was in Dubai were the team winning the toss won the match. So that evens thing out for both teams as they can enter the field without a handicap. If its a full 20 over game then both teams start at 50-50. But if its a rain-curtailed match then the more shorter it gets it tilts more towards India as India has more power hitters compared to Pak. Especially hitting in autralia needs skill not slogging.

I hope the Pakistani team is not as over-confident as you are. A 10 wicket victory doesn't happen everytime. This time around its going to go to the wire like the 2 encounters few weeks back.

I want Babar azam to forfeit the toss & give toss thing to india ( they decide) if pak bats first ideally they should play handicap match. Means if it is 20 over match, babar should declare at 19 overs. So india will have toss advantage & 1 extra over advantage. ( then no more excuses)

Even while chasing babar should try to chase with 4 to 5 overs remaining.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I don't mind if it is a shortened game as long as it is not interrupted.

 

[MenInG]

Rohit asked about the rain and its effect on the game:

"Yes, it (toss) does become a little important. Melbourne weather keeps changing. You don't really know what is going to happen tomorrow. We need to come here thinking it will be a 40-over game, but if it is a shortened game, we will be ready for it"

 

[ex-q-zit]

Pakistan Predicted XI vs India, T20 World Cup: Will Pakistan Make Changes In Middle-Order?

Pakistan's middle-order will be under the scanner once again when the Babar Azam-led side faces arch-rivals India in their opening match of the T20 World Cup Super 12s at the Melbourne Cricket Ground on Sunday. Babar, during the pre-match press conference, confirmed that top-order batter Fakhar Zaman will not feature against India due to an injury. However, Shan Masood could boost their batting line-up, after clearing tests, following a concussion scare. With Babar's recent struggles, wicketkeeper-batter Mohammad Rizwan has taken responsibility with the bat. However, the middle-order has been Pakistan's Achilles heel of late.

Here's how Pakistan might line-up against India:

Babar Azam:The Pakistan captain was in top form prior to the Asia Cup, but his form has deteriorated since then. His role will be key for Pakistan's chances in the match.

Mohammad Rizwan: Currently the top-ranked T20I batter in the world, Rizwan has delivered the goods with the bat over the last two years. His partnership with Babar will be crucial for Pakistan, especially due to the middle-order concerns.

Shan Masood: The southpaw has played some valuable knocks since making his comeback in the team last month. The management will hope that Shan can replicate his recent outings with the bat.

Asif Ali:The veteran batter could get a nod ahead of struggling Khushdil Shah in the playing XI. However, his performances haven't been impressive enough. He will look to to put on a good show this time around.

Iftikhar Ahmed:There has been a lot of discussion regarding his place in the team. Iftikhar has played some decent cameos, put his striker-rate has been the main concern.

Mohammad Nawaz:Nawaz's recent form has been one of the positives for Pakistan. Apart from his ability to strike at crunch moments, Nawaz has the tendency to contribute with the bat, if the opportunity arrives.

Shadab Khan: Pakistan's vice-captain would be yet another impact player to watch out for in the key clash against India. Apart from his leg spin, Shadab can also be handy with the bat.

Mohammad Wasim Jr: Wasim could be one of the four pacers in the playing XI as Pakistan look to add more firepower to their bowling, which has been strength. He has put in some decent performance with the ball, and can also struck a few lusty blows, if the opportunity arrives.

Shaheen Afridi:Shaheen's place in the playing XI should be a no-brainer. After being out of action for nearly two months, Shaheen made a strong comeback in the warm-up game against England, where he made an instant impact. His ability with the new ball is second to none.

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Haris Rauf:While Shaheen is the X-factor with the new ball, Haris does the job in the middle, as well as the death overs. He provides important breakthroughs for his team, and his economy rate is also pretty impressive.

Naseem Shah:In Shaheen's absence, Naseem took the responsibility of dictating terms during the Asia Cup. The youngster would be hoping to make a strong statement right from the word 'go' in this tournament.

NDTV

 

[hitthestump]

I don't think we need Wasim and Naseem in the same XI. Haider Ali should take the place of one of them and be told simply to swing hard.

 

[Suleiman]

Need to play Hasnain.

I know people here have little patience for youth, but trust me, for him and Rauf, Australia is a second home. You don’t sit out when the native population of the country are ardent supporters of you.

Hasnain and Rauf need to play all games that matter. Need to use their expertise of the Aussie conditions.

4 pacers. All 140 kph+… ahhh

Play to our strengths, it’s not like the extra batsman is doing us favors

 

[ex-q-zit]

Need to play Hasnain.

I know people here have little patience for youth, but trust me, for him and Rauf, Australia is a second home. You don’t sit out when the native population of the country are ardent supporters of you.

Hasnain and Rauf need to play all games that matter. Need to use their expertise of the Aussie conditions.

4 pacers. All 140 kph+… ahhh

Play to our strengths, it’s not like the extra batsman is doing us favors

If you use 4 pacers how will you complete teh quota in time. remember under the new law you will be penalised if not completed within the stipulated time.

 

[Oneking]

Overcast conditions means the ball will be swinging, you need one proper batsmen and one slogger from other end I hope India will play against Shaheen in overcast conditions lol

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Need to play Hasnain.

I know people here have little patience for youth, but trust me, for him and Rauf, Australia is a second home. You don’t sit out when the native population of the country are ardent supporters of you.

Hasnain and Rauf need to play all games that matter. Need to use their expertise of the Aussie conditions.

4 pacers. All 140 kph+… ahhh

Play to our strengths, it’s not like the extra batsman is doing us favors

Then who sits out? Wasim Jr?
There is a trade off here, Wasim can bat and swing a few big hits, something that Hasnain can't.

We need runs on the board - by hook or by crook. That's our weakest link that we need to strengthen.

Bowling is already good enough, but notice that we are a only a two batsmen team at this point.

 

[Sports_Psychologist]

01 - Babar
Rizwan
Shan (if openers get out early) / Fakhar
Nawaz / Shadab
Fakhar (if fit) otherwise chacha
Haider
Shadab / Nawaz
Waseem / Hasnain (if Hasnain then bat him down the order)
Haris
Naseem
Shaheen

We need 4 pacers means 6 bowlers if may bowler has a rough day.
We need Fakhar against India if fit because it is a pressure game, Asif and Chacha are liabilities and should not be played for 6 hitting because of the horrific boundaries.
Shan is required if it's swinging and an opener gets out early.
Hasnain is required if he's bowling on line and length in the nets and if they believe that the bowl will be swinging in first few overs.
I believe this is the best lineup considering the resources available but I highly doubt that the Management will take any measures to cater the above.
Again as usual it's our bowling vs India's batting, chasing team will have a better chance of winning this game.