- Joined
- Oct 2, 2004
- Runs
- 217,988
A lot of animosity between both countries preceding the elections but with those done, can things go back to 'normal'? Can true peace be reached during PM Modi's reign?
-
Contact the PP Team
Will relations between India and Pakistan improve with re-election of PM Modi?
- Thread starter MenInG
- Start date
No!
Radicalized extremists religious nationalists government needs a boogeyman to get vote.
Muslims of Indian and Pakistan is an easy way to win any election in India.
So maybe temporary peace but come election time in India, they critters of hate will try to start another war on false pretext.
jaspa888
Local Club Star
- Joined
- Aug 1, 2007
- Runs
- 1,996
I think they will improve. A lot of pre-election bluster from Modi, but he is a canny politician who has harnessed the Hinduvas josh to gain power. He knows tensions in the region are not good for anyone.
- Joined
- Oct 2, 2004
- Runs
- 217,988
A lot will depend on Modi lowering the rhetoric in the coming days
Technics 1210
Test Debutant
- Joined
- Feb 27, 2019
- Runs
- 15,318
Short answer is no.
The minds of the Indian public are so polluted with Modi's anti-Pakistan rhetoric, that the only way Modi can stay in power is by playing the Pakistan bogeyman card.
Congress party didn't lose the election because Rahul Gandhi was incompetent, it was because Rahul didn't smear Pakistan as Modi did.
This tells you one thing. Indians do not care about the economy, do not care about society, do not care about injustices - they only care about Pakistan.
The moment there is any semblance of peace between the two nations, it will signal the end of the BJP - the Hindu ruling party. Not going to happen for love nor money.
The minds of the Indian public are so polluted with Modi's anti-Pakistan rhetoric, that the only way Modi can stay in power is by playing the Pakistan bogeyman card.
Congress party didn't lose the election because Rahul Gandhi was incompetent, it was because Rahul didn't smear Pakistan as Modi did.
This tells you one thing. Indians do not care about the economy, do not care about society, do not care about injustices - they only care about Pakistan.
The moment there is any semblance of peace between the two nations, it will signal the end of the BJP - the Hindu ruling party. Not going to happen for love nor money.
Zeeraq
First Class Captain
- Joined
- Sep 28, 2011
- Runs
- 5,437
It depends if his anti-Pakistan sentiment is real or just an election ploy, if it is real then the relationship between the two countries will deteriorate further under Narendra Modi.
- Joined
- Oct 2, 2004
- Runs
- 217,988
KARACHI: Pakistan has played down a decision by the Indian government not to invite Prime Minister Imran Khan to Thursday’s swearing-in ceremony of his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi, saying India’s ‘internal politics’ did not permit him to extend an invitation.
“His [Modi’s] entire focus [during the election campaign] was on Pakistan-bashing. It was unwise to expect that he can get rid of this narrative [soon],” Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi told a news channel in the evening.
Earlier, a Reuters report had said New Delhi would not invite PM Khan to Mr Modi’s oath-taking ceremony.
An Indian government statement said the leaders of Bangladesh, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Nepal and Bhutan — all members of the little-known Bay of Bengal Initiative for Multi-Sectoral Technical and Econo*mic Cooperation — had been invited to Modi’s swearing-in.
Imran may meet Indian PM at SCO summit in Kyrgyzstan next month
All nations from the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC), which includes Pakistan, Afghanistan and the Maldives, were invited to the swearing-in ceremony for Mr Modi’s first term in 2014.
Then prime minister Nawaz Sharif had attended the event.
Speaking at a Geo News programme on Monday evening, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said the Indian premier had congratulated Imran Khan after he won the general election last year and wrote a letter as well.
He said relations between countries were based on reciprocity and PM Khan had congratulated Mr Modi as a goodwill gesture.
He said a meeting for the sake of dialogue to find a solution to the Kashmir issue, as well as Siachen and Sir Creek disputes, would have been a significant measure instead of attending the swearing-in ceremony.
“Finding a new way [to resume dialogue] is also essential for them [India],” Mr Qureshi said. “If he [Modi] wants development of this region...the only way is to sit with Pakistan to find a solution,” the foreign minister added.
“It is in the interest of Pakistan to defuse tensions...Pakistan did not create tension. Now the entire world agrees that Pakistan had no role in the Pulwama incident,” Mr Qureshi said, referring to an attack on a convoy of the Indian army in occupied Kashmir in February that left over 40 soldiers dead.
Exception for Sushma
Last week, FM Qureshi had an unscheduled and informal meeting with Indian External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj on the sidelines of SCO meeting of foreign ministers in Bishkek.
It was the first face-to-face meeting between the two foreign ministers and the highest-level interaction since the post-Pulwama standoff, which had ended through intervention of foreign intermediaries.
According to the Indian media, Islamabad made a rare exception for Ms Swaraj to fly directly through Pakistani airspace to attend the SCO meeting.
Pakistan had closed its airspace for flights to and from India on Feb 26 after the Balakot standoff.
“The Indian government had requested us to allow Ms Swaraj to fly over Pakistan to avoid the longer route, and we gave them permission,” Foreign Office spokesperson Mohammad Faisal told Hindu.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1484989/qureshi-makes-light-of-no-invitation-for-pm-to-modis-oath-taking
“His [Modi’s] entire focus [during the election campaign] was on Pakistan-bashing. It was unwise to expect that he can get rid of this narrative [soon],” Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi told a news channel in the evening.
Earlier, a Reuters report had said New Delhi would not invite PM Khan to Mr Modi’s oath-taking ceremony.
An Indian government statement said the leaders of Bangladesh, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Nepal and Bhutan — all members of the little-known Bay of Bengal Initiative for Multi-Sectoral Technical and Econo*mic Cooperation — had been invited to Modi’s swearing-in.
Imran may meet Indian PM at SCO summit in Kyrgyzstan next month
All nations from the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC), which includes Pakistan, Afghanistan and the Maldives, were invited to the swearing-in ceremony for Mr Modi’s first term in 2014.
Then prime minister Nawaz Sharif had attended the event.
Speaking at a Geo News programme on Monday evening, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said the Indian premier had congratulated Imran Khan after he won the general election last year and wrote a letter as well.
He said relations between countries were based on reciprocity and PM Khan had congratulated Mr Modi as a goodwill gesture.
He said a meeting for the sake of dialogue to find a solution to the Kashmir issue, as well as Siachen and Sir Creek disputes, would have been a significant measure instead of attending the swearing-in ceremony.
“Finding a new way [to resume dialogue] is also essential for them [India],” Mr Qureshi said. “If he [Modi] wants development of this region...the only way is to sit with Pakistan to find a solution,” the foreign minister added.
“It is in the interest of Pakistan to defuse tensions...Pakistan did not create tension. Now the entire world agrees that Pakistan had no role in the Pulwama incident,” Mr Qureshi said, referring to an attack on a convoy of the Indian army in occupied Kashmir in February that left over 40 soldiers dead.
Exception for Sushma
Last week, FM Qureshi had an unscheduled and informal meeting with Indian External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj on the sidelines of SCO meeting of foreign ministers in Bishkek.
It was the first face-to-face meeting between the two foreign ministers and the highest-level interaction since the post-Pulwama standoff, which had ended through intervention of foreign intermediaries.
According to the Indian media, Islamabad made a rare exception for Ms Swaraj to fly directly through Pakistani airspace to attend the SCO meeting.
Pakistan had closed its airspace for flights to and from India on Feb 26 after the Balakot standoff.
“The Indian government had requested us to allow Ms Swaraj to fly over Pakistan to avoid the longer route, and we gave them permission,” Foreign Office spokesperson Mohammad Faisal told Hindu.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1484989/qureshi-makes-light-of-no-invitation-for-pm-to-modis-oath-taking
cricketjoshila
Test Captain
- Joined
- Mar 16, 2011
- Runs
- 48,059
- Post of the Week
- 1
Its funny how pakistani media tends to underplay any initiatives that doesnot includes pakistan. BIMSTEC has served interests of its members far more than SAARC.
Btw why is the swearing in ceremony of the Indian PM a topic of discussion even.
Btw why is the swearing in ceremony of the Indian PM a topic of discussion even.
King-Misbah
First Class Player
- Joined
- Jan 8, 2017
- Runs
- 2,799
What about India's terrorism? Stop being naive. Kulbushan Yadav was not sight seeing in Blauchistan.
AZ
Hall of Famer
- Joined
- Dec 29, 2008
- Runs
- 55,655
India's isolationist policy towards Pakistan has suited them just fine for the past decade, don't see why they would want to change that anytime soon.
plus it has helped further radicalize & strengthen BJP's Hindutva powerbase, ek ticket do mazay.
plus it has helped further radicalize & strengthen BJP's Hindutva powerbase, ek ticket do mazay.
- Joined
- Oct 2, 2004
- Runs
- 217,988
NEW DELHI: Guests arriving at the Pakistan high commission for the traditional Iftar were harassed by Indian security personnel, in a repeat of a similar happening during the Pakistan Day celebrations in New Delhi in March, reports said on Wednesday.
“There may be prospects of a thaw in the Indo-Pak relations but ties at the ground level continue to be hostile as the latest incident that occurred outside the Pakistan High Commission shows,” The Tribune said.
Pakistan is understood to have decided to protest against the harassment, it said.
According to reports, videos have emerged of armed security personnel rummaging in personal vehicles and plainclothes men asking invitees to produce identity cards that were then photographed while those of presumably another security agency were seen writing down I-card numbers of the invitees.
Reports said the harassment might cast a shadow on the Iftar scheduled by Indian High Commissioner to Pakistan Ajay Bisaria on Friday “as security agencies of both countries reciprocate will full measure”.
The close questioning of invitees, an aggressive search of some of the cars and exhortations by uniformed and plainclothes security personnel was a repeat of the intimidation on Pakistan Day celebrations at the same venue in March. At that time, security personnel were heard asking invitees to join the Indian government in boycotting the Pakistan Day celebrations.
“We have decided on a full court press [against Pakistan],” said an intelligence official while declining to comment on the incident.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1485432/indians-harass-guests-at-iftar-hosted-by-pakistan-hc-reports
“There may be prospects of a thaw in the Indo-Pak relations but ties at the ground level continue to be hostile as the latest incident that occurred outside the Pakistan High Commission shows,” The Tribune said.
Pakistan is understood to have decided to protest against the harassment, it said.
According to reports, videos have emerged of armed security personnel rummaging in personal vehicles and plainclothes men asking invitees to produce identity cards that were then photographed while those of presumably another security agency were seen writing down I-card numbers of the invitees.
Reports said the harassment might cast a shadow on the Iftar scheduled by Indian High Commissioner to Pakistan Ajay Bisaria on Friday “as security agencies of both countries reciprocate will full measure”.
The close questioning of invitees, an aggressive search of some of the cars and exhortations by uniformed and plainclothes security personnel was a repeat of the intimidation on Pakistan Day celebrations at the same venue in March. At that time, security personnel were heard asking invitees to join the Indian government in boycotting the Pakistan Day celebrations.
“We have decided on a full court press [against Pakistan],” said an intelligence official while declining to comment on the incident.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1485432/indians-harass-guests-at-iftar-hosted-by-pakistan-hc-reports
- Joined
- Oct 2, 2004
- Runs
- 217,988
NEW DELHI: Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan has written to his Indian counterpart Prime Minister Narendra Modi saying that he wants talks to resolve all reconcilable problems, including the Kashmir issue, a Pakistani media report said on Friday. The report came a day after India said there will be no bilateral meeting between the two leaders on the sidelines of a regional summit in Kyrgyzstan's Bishkek next week.
Congratulating him on his second term as the prime minister of India, Mr Khan said talks between the two nations was the only solution to help both countries' people overcome poverty and that it was important to work together for regional development, Geo TV reported.
Mr Khan said Pakistan desires the resolution of all problems, including that of the Kashmir issue, it said.
India has not yet reacted to the report.
This is the second time after PM Modi was re-elected to power that the Pakistani premier has expressed his desire to work together with India for the betterment of their peoples.
Over the last few years, India has refused any initiative for talks, contending that cross-border terror has to stop before talks can begin.
However, talks about a possible meeting between the two prime ministers at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit in Bishkek due started gaining momentum after Imran Khan called PM Modi to congratulate him for his landslide victory in the general elections. The foreign ministry said PM Modi had thanked Imran Khan for his phone call and greetings.
Relations with Pakistan - wobbling since the terror strike at Uri in 2016 - took a nosedive after a Jaish-e-Mohammed terrorist killed 40 CRPF soldiers in Jammu and Kashmir's Pulwama on February 14. Days later, India conducted air-strikes on a Jaish camp in Pakistan's Balakot on February 26. The Pakistan Air Force struck back, targeting civilian and military installations in India and captured Indian Air Force pilot Abhinandan Varthaman.
In April, Imran Khan was quoted as saying that he saw a better chance of peace talks with India if PM Modi's BJP won the elections. The cricketer-turned-politician had said if the next government in India were led by the Congress party, it might be "too scared" to seek a settlement with Pakistan over Kashmir, fearing a backlash.
The BJP swept the crucial national elections and decimated the Congress by winning 303 seats alone, surpassing its massive 282 seat win of 2014.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/imr...er-issues-report-2049851?pfrom=home-topscroll
Congratulating him on his second term as the prime minister of India, Mr Khan said talks between the two nations was the only solution to help both countries' people overcome poverty and that it was important to work together for regional development, Geo TV reported.
Mr Khan said Pakistan desires the resolution of all problems, including that of the Kashmir issue, it said.
India has not yet reacted to the report.
This is the second time after PM Modi was re-elected to power that the Pakistani premier has expressed his desire to work together with India for the betterment of their peoples.
Over the last few years, India has refused any initiative for talks, contending that cross-border terror has to stop before talks can begin.
However, talks about a possible meeting between the two prime ministers at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit in Bishkek due started gaining momentum after Imran Khan called PM Modi to congratulate him for his landslide victory in the general elections. The foreign ministry said PM Modi had thanked Imran Khan for his phone call and greetings.
Relations with Pakistan - wobbling since the terror strike at Uri in 2016 - took a nosedive after a Jaish-e-Mohammed terrorist killed 40 CRPF soldiers in Jammu and Kashmir's Pulwama on February 14. Days later, India conducted air-strikes on a Jaish camp in Pakistan's Balakot on February 26. The Pakistan Air Force struck back, targeting civilian and military installations in India and captured Indian Air Force pilot Abhinandan Varthaman.
In April, Imran Khan was quoted as saying that he saw a better chance of peace talks with India if PM Modi's BJP won the elections. The cricketer-turned-politician had said if the next government in India were led by the Congress party, it might be "too scared" to seek a settlement with Pakistan over Kashmir, fearing a backlash.
The BJP swept the crucial national elections and decimated the Congress by winning 303 seats alone, surpassing its massive 282 seat win of 2014.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/imr...er-issues-report-2049851?pfrom=home-topscroll
Pete Rose
Senior ODI Player
- Joined
- Nov 2, 2011
- Runs
- 22,848
- Post of the Week
- 2
They will improve over time. The Indian govt. has to some other pressing issues to iron out. Trump is going to town on their restrictive trade policies and has created a schism with Iran by coercing shining India to reduce Iran oil import and potentially lose the Chabahar port.
It will take some time for the PM's to talk. Right now, there's no major incentive.
It will take some time for the PM's to talk. Right now, there's no major incentive.
Similar threads
- Poll
