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"Will show Modi government how to treat minorities": says Imran Khan

when news is taken out of context it usually is or becomes FAKE NEWS.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Prime Minister <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a> quoting 11 August 1947 speech of Jinnah & Ashtiname(Covenant) of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) with christians.<br><br>“We must protect, give equal rights to our minorities & ensure they are free to practice their religion and not treated as second class citizens” <a href="https://t.co/5xdhoUltBB">pic.twitter.com/5xdhoUltBB</a></p>— PTI (@PTIofficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial/status/1076548103132467206?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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cricketjoshila said:
India is not Imran Khan's to comment neither is Naseerudin shah's personal life.

A PM of a country should know the minimum diplomacy and decency to know that another country's matter is not for him to poke his nose into.

Who India elects is not Pakistan's concern. No country in the world is answerable to Pakistan for its internal issues. Seems you guys have a problem understanding this.
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That’s rich from someone who support elected radicalized nationalists Hindu extremists and radicalized Hindu groups which immediately tell any Indian Muslim to go to Pakistan who criticize the elected radicalized nationalists Hindu extremists and radicalized Hindu extremists groups.

What a joke, lol
 
cricketjoshila said:
India is not Imran Khan's to comment neither is Naseerudin shah's personal life.

A PM of a country should know the minimum diplomacy and decency to know that another country's matter is not for him to poke his nose into.

Who India elects is not Pakistan's concern. No country in the world is answerable to Pakistan for its internal issues. Seems you guys have a problem understanding this.
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Absolutely correct. Imran Khan needs to stop making comments on India.

But, what right do Bhakts have to tell Naseeruddin Shah to go to Pakistan?

As an India citizen Shah has the right to criticise and question the Indian governments policies without fearing for the lives of his family?
 
Sidilicious said:
Absolutely correct. Imran Khan needs to stop making comments on India.

But, what right do Bhakts have to tell Naseeruddin Shah to go to Pakistan?

As an India citizen Shah has the right to criticise and question the Indian governments policies without fearing for the lives of his family?
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Nasseruddin shah has the right to cricticize the govt and people have the right to cricticize Shah. It goes both ways.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
Never knew freedom of speech is only for liberals. Be tolerant towards others as well, bruv.
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As I said, criticising is different from asking someone to move to Pakistan.

People have the right to point out hypocrisy of Naseeruddin Shah and to criticise him. But how is asking someone to move to Pakistan justified. Rather than actually countering the point Naseeruddin Shah is making, these Bhakts are actually proving his point that India is becoming intolerant.
 
Sidilicious said:
As I said, criticising is different from asking someone to move to Pakistan.

People have the right to point out hypocrisy of Naseeruddin Shah and to criticise him. But how is asking someone to move to Pakistan justified. Rather than actually countering the point Naseeruddin Shah is making, these Bhakts are actually proving his point that India is becoming intolerant.
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Naseeruddin Shah and his family has lived and thrived in India. Have become elites of the society. Then one day he starts pointing fingers at the majority community saying he is feeling unsafe. You think people will take this kind of hypocrisy lying down and go to his door to mollify him?
 
cricketjoshila said:
If they are threatening him he can go to the law agencies.

So what is Imran Khan's stake here?
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But why is he being threatened, why did they force the literary festival to be cancelled? I can't keep with these Hindu nutcase and their latest angst, please inform me.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Naseeruddin Shah and his family has lived and thrived in India. Have become elites of the society. Then one day he starts pointing fingers at the majority community saying he is feeling unsafe. You think people will take this kind of hypocrisy lying down and go to his door to mollify him?
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Are you telling me that mob lynching over cow slaughter are not happening with increased frequency? How often did one hear nonsense like go back to Pakistan, or anti-national 10-15 years back? Under the previous BJP govt under Vajpayee, India had its biggest challenge of the Kargil attacks. But somehow no one was called anti-national or there were no mob justice on cow slaughter. The fact is India has become more intolerant.

The government has failed in its job protect the citizen. Even if the citizen did break the law, he should be tried in court and not be subjected to mob justice. How is this supposed to make a person feel safer?

And the proper way to provide a counter argument, is to actually target ones argument. Not character assassinate one and ask one to be sent to Pakistan. Thats how you kill democracy. Thats how facism comes into being.
 
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Nasruddin Shaw has every right to criticize the government and few crazys have every right to tell him to go to Pakistan. As long as they don’t make specific threats him or his family, if they do authoritys should take necessary action. Here in US it’s very common for some one to say “leave America” or “move to Canada” if you criticize the government.

If Imran’s challenge will help the minority’s in Pakistan, it’s a win for all. While he is in the mood for showig other countries how to treat it's minorities, he may want to show China and few of his Arab masters on how to treat their minorities.
 
I think people are missing the moot point (not surprising though). No one is supporting the statements made by few fringe elements that Naseer should go to Pakistan. India is a country of 1.5 billion people...so you cant keep everyone's mouth shut. But its no way govt or BJPs stance. And these kind of loose comments work from both sides. Didnt Sonu Nigam got a fatwa to be beheaded after he said something about azaan? So shall we equate that to congress/leftists stance on Sonu? Ofcourse not. These people (both who asks Naseer to go to Pak or one who issues fatwa to Sonu Nigam) are hooligans and fringe elements. We must leave it like that and focus on the main issue.

The real issue here is the statement by Naseer which is politically motivated before general election. The city where he lives, thousands of Biharis being beaten up by MNS, few got lynched as well. He never said a word against Raj Thakrey. 26/11 attacks happened in Mumbai and India lost some of its best soldiers/police officers. Likes of Naseer/Amir Khan don't feel threatened at all. I can give you countless of hindu bjp/rss workers being lynched in Kerala/West Bengal, Naseer bhai don't find any violence in it. Kashmiri stone pelters attacking our army, no issues. But if someone gets killed by cow lynchers (who should be hanged asap), suddenly likes of Naseer, Amir Khan, Sheila Rashid, Kanhaiya Kumar, Umar Khalid, Prakash Raj and the likes of them finds the country intolerant, hostile and violent. This kind of open hypocracy needs to end.

I don't live in India but reading posts by some of the Indian posters here, looks like our youths are being massively brainwashed. There is no feeling of patriotism left whatsoever, standing up for national anthem is somehow considered as an enforcement from BJP, taking pride in hindu is slowly becoming communal. This is so sorry to see actually. We need to re think our education system and abolish the books which Nehru/Congress implemented following British culture and try to introduce more vedic/ancient Indian knowledge which might brings back patriotism in our youth. Or else, we will continue to produce universities like Jadahvpur, Nalsar or JNU where if someone plants a tank in memory of Kargill war, people call it fasicm.
 
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I would prefer if Imran did not make these statements and instead focused on the job at hand and we saw some real progress with the minorities issue. India is not our responsibility.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Naseeruddin Shah and his family has lived and thrived in India. Have become elites of the society. Then one day he starts pointing fingers at the majority community saying he is feeling unsafe. You think people will take this kind of hypocrisy lying down and go to his door to mollify him?
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Stop posting rubbish please. Naseeruddin can say whatever he wants. He didn't bring/ praise Pakistan in his statement so I don't know why intolerant people like you are asking him to move to Pakistan. :inti
 
cricketjoshila said:
Nasseruddin shah has the right to cricticize the govt and people have the right to cricticize Shah. It goes both ways.
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Sidilicious said:
Criticise, yes. But ask him to move to Pakistan? How is that warranted?
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Same way as you and other fake liberals making incendiary comments on the topic of cows knowing very well that it is a sensitive topic on grounds that you are well within the law. What goes around generally comes back around and usually finds the most sensitive spot to hurt you.
 
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Stop posting rubbish please. Naseeruddin can say whatever he wants. He didn't bring/ praise Pakistan in his statement so I don't know why intolerant people like you are asking him to move to Pakistan. :inti
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maybe you don't realize that tolerance has meaning if and only if it is practiced by all parties. In India tolerance implies the majority being tolerant towards minorities only. Rogues from minorities have free pass to do things like - ethinic cleansing, torching trains, killing cows etc etc ....
 
Tusker said:
Same way as you and other fake liberals making incendiary comments on the topic of cows knowing very well that it is a sensitive topic on grounds that you are well within the law. What goes around generally comes back around and usually finds the most sensitive spot to hurt you.
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I dont have time to waste on questions that you dont even answer. Just to make it clear, I did not make any incidenary comments.

You insisted on comments that I required proof. Now, just to re-iterate, this is how things went
1. You condoned the mob lynching by insisting that muslims had been killing cows in the states it is banned. Since its been going on the Bhakts have been involving themselves in mob justice.
2. I asked for proof that muslims had been killing cows in those states. And if this had happened before, why were they not tried in court.
3. You obviously had no answer to this, but asked to me provide proof that didnt happen. I am not the one who made a claim that cow slaughter has been going on without since it was banned.
4. Finally, I made a claim that instead of Bhakts lyncing people for cow slaughter, why are these cases not being brought via the Indian legal system. you obviously had no answer to this.

Now, cow slaughter may be an issue for you, but its not a sensitive topic for me. Just ask the cow that died in order to become my steak this evening.

As long as an Indian is following the Indian law and the constitution, that Indian should not fear for any unlawful acts from any Bhakts or any other religious extremist, including Islamic ones. Unfortunately, thats not the case. If the law of the state does not prevent one from killing a cow (for eg. Kerala), I will be free to kill a cow (humanely, of course) when and where I wish. The Indian constitution and law towers any sensitivity or any other rubbish any Bhakt or Islamist may feel. An Indian only answers to the constitution and the law. Not to some bhakt who will be nowhere to be seen if the government loses next year.

Also, let me add this. Just as much as I am against Bovine Bhakts lynching people on cow slaughter, I was also against the banning of Salman Rushdie's book from India (I was too young then), but more recently from the Jaipur book festival. The fact is religious people of all sides are too sensitive, and as a secular government, India should not be bowing down to any religious extremism like Bovine Bhakts or Radical Maulvis.

Dont have anymore time to debate with you. I am always open for a good argument/discussion with [MENTION=2099]Cricket[/MENTION]johilla because of his knowledge and arguments, but you Mr. Tusker are not worth spending the time debating.
 
Sidilicious said:
I dont have time to waste on questions that you dont even answer. Just to make it clear, I did not make any incidenary comments.
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I answered every single question you asked

Here are some samples from that other thread :
1. Beef is my staple diet.
2. Repeated use of derogatory terms like "Bovine Bhakts"
3. Feasting on Beef.
4. Cow protection laws are stupid laws
5. Killing a cow near a temple might be religiously insensitive, and should be avoided, as the uncivilised Bovine Bhakts might try to Lynch you for lives
6. Just to make up for the lack of cows being killed, I have now turned from not eating much beef for nearly 30 years of my life, to now eating beef every day for the last 4 years.

This is how you talk ?


You insisted on comments that I required proof. Now, just to re-iterate, this is how things went
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That was your insistence. See Post#42. We both know that neither can prove/disprove anything as we do not have access to a FIR database for entire India. All we can do is go by media reports.

1. You condoned the mob lynching by insisting that muslims had been killing cows in the states it is banned. Since its been going on the Bhakts have been involving themselves in mob justice.
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No I did not. See post# 41 which is my 1st post on that thread, you on the other hand are yet to even have the courtesy to talk respectfully and extent common courtesies (Let alone acknowledge that the ) because in your mind you thought you had no sensitivities that could be trampled that too using your own rules. You got properly nailed and now are howling. So

2. I asked for proof that muslims had been killing cows in those states. And if this had happened before, why were they not tried in court.


3. You obviously had no answer to this, but asked to me provide proof that didnt happen. I am not the one who made a claim that cow slaughter has been going on without since it was banned.

4. Finally, I made a claim that instead of Bhakts lyncing people for cow slaughter, why are these cases not being brought via the Indian legal system. you obviously had no answer to this.
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As I said I do not have a FIR database. Nor do you . So neither can you prove/disprove anything. But if you think these acts are done by non-Muslims then you are just arguing for the sake of argument and do not understand what reality is in India.


Now, cow slaughter may be an issue for you, but its not a sensitive topic for me. Just ask the cow that died in order to become my steak this evening.
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Here we go again no moral compunctions at all towards others but others must treat you like a saint. Bad news for you - it doesnt work that way. Therefore you complaining about asking Naseer being asked to move to Pakistan is about as important as the soiled toilet paper that I just flushed down the toilet. You want confirmation ? Go ask the toilet paper how it feels.

See how is it to go down your rogue bully path ? I know it is much much harder to remain civilized for pseudo liberals but give it a try.


As long as an Indian is following the Indian law and the constitution, that Indian should not fear for any unlawful acts from any Bhakts or any other religious extremist, including Islamic ones. Unfortunately, thats not the case. If the law of the state does not prevent one from killing a cow (for eg. Kerala), I will be free to kill a cow (humanely, of course) when and where I wish. The Indian constitution and law towers any sensitivity or any other rubbish any Bhakt or Islamist may feel. An Indian only answers to the constitution and the law. Not to some bhakt who will be nowhere to be seen if the government loses next year.
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You may not know this but you will be arrested for insulting religious beliefs of any religion if you do things like killing a cow. Its not strictly enforced but thats a different story. So don't go around killing cows yet or drawing the Prophet. I hope you now realize how deadbeat you are and just arguing for the sake of arguing.

You may not know this too - the law was made by Congress back in 1955... to make matters worse for you BJP as we know it did not even exist back then.

Also, let me add this. Just as much as I am against Bovine Bhakts lynching people on cow slaughter, I was also against the banning of Salman Rushdie's book from India (I was too young then), but more recently from the Jaipur book festival. The fact is religious people of all sides are too sensitive, and as a secular government, India should not be bowing down to any religious extremism like Bovine Bhakts or Radical Maulvis.
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Sure, but how many pigs are killed around mosques, how many people draw the Prophet? But How many people die due to Islamic radicalism which is hugely disproportionate to the population ratio ?


Dont have anymore time to debate with you. I am always open for a good argument/discussion with [MENTION=2099]Cricket[/MENTION]johilla because of his knowledge and arguments, but you Mr. Tusker are not worth spending the time debating.
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You sure your hasty exit isnt tied to how the fertilizer began to flow in your direction after you refused to extend common courtesies and talk sensibly despite me pointing that out to you ?

Yes [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] is far more knowledgeable than me but I can very well hold my own whether you want a meaningful discussion or indulge in timepass rabble rousing. It is totally upto you.

And for what its worth you were the one that wanted a conversation with me in that other thread which is ok. And I will say this - I most certainly have the patience, discipline and above all the courtesy to respond respectfully without antagonizing no matter how much I dislike your POV - provided the same courtesies are extended to me. If you want to proceed Iam more than capable of starting all over again as though nothing happened.
 
Imran is a loud mouth joke.

Pakistan is as bad if not worse for minorities than India.. heck in Pakistan to even become prime minister you must be Muslim. What a joke.
 
I actually saw the video clip today. He said that it was Quaid e Azam’s dream to make a state where minorities get equal right. Then he also referenced to Bangladesh and said Pakistan didnt give them Bengalis equal rights. Basically he was trying to say that he wants to set an example and that is his vision. He obviously also referenced to Naseeruddin by saying that Pakistan was founded because muslims felt they would not be treated equally in India.

If you listen to his whole talk in perspective it was not as bad as how the headline sounds.

His criticism was directed towards both Pakistan aswell.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">His struggle for a separate nation for Muslims only started when he realised that Muslims would not be treated as equal citizens by the Hindu majority. Naya Pak is Quaid's Pak & we will ensure that our minorities are treated as equal citizens, unlike what is happening in India. <a href="https://t.co/xFPo8ahJnp">https://t.co/xFPo8ahJnp</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1077478982478639104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">His struggle for a separate nation for Muslims only started when he realised that Muslims would not be treated as equal citizens by the Hindu majority. Naya Pak is Quaid's Pak & we will ensure that our minorities are treated as equal citizens, unlike what is happening in India. <a href="https://t.co/xFPo8ahJnp">https://t.co/xFPo8ahJnp</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1077478982478639104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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More shots fired at India. IK really knows how to cause a billion heartburns :))
 
Thank you IK. Now the ignorant ones, the ones didn't know or have much knowledge about past. Will now know the truth what really happened to East Pakistan. Good honest man, not afraid to say truth, against bias and injustice. Live long and make your nation grow the right way.
 
When will Modi (with his 56 inch chest) come out and show Imran his place ?
Is this the same Modi who left no stone unturned in mocking Dr.Singh for not speaking against Pakistan ?
 
Hey , being 40% of population, we couldn't get along with majority which was 60% of total population. But rest assured that 10% of population in our new country will have equal rights.

Any country formed based on religion is always going to discriminate against minority in constitution and in practice both. It may sound bad to many here, but Pakistan's direction was pretty much set from the get go. Some details could have played out differently, but outcome was inevitable.

India, Pakistan, Modi or IK is just a distraction here.

If you make a separate race based country just for white, then blacks in the country will suffer. It's not hard to understand.
 
Kaptan said:
When will Modi (with his 56 inch chest) come out and show Imran his place ?
Is this the same Modi who left no stone unturned in mocking Dr.Singh for not speaking against Pakistan ?
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Why should Modi give Imran Khan any importance? IK holds no position of leverage againist India. His opinion holds no significance in respect to India hence he is being ignored. Thats is his place.To be ignored.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Why should Modi give Imran Khan any importance? IK holds no position of leverage againist India. His opinion holds no significance in respect to India hence he is being ignored. Thats is his place.To be ignored.
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True, Modiji isn't too bothered about Imran and rightly so. But it's funny to see Imran's Modi and India obsession despite being ignored repeatedly. :))
 
As I wrote in other thread

India is the country where every Muslim celebrity has to give proof of his "Desh Bhagti" otherwise he/she will be treated as Ghaddar.
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We will now see many new messages from those celebrities in coming days against Imran Khan.
 
Indian Muslims are in a pretty good situation, if they consider Kasmiris, non-Muslim or Indians don;t consider them human beings.
 
gazza619 said:
I actually saw the video clip today. He said that it was Quaid e Azam’s dream to make a state where minorities get equal right. Then he also referenced to Bangladesh and said Pakistan didnt give them Bengalis equal rights. Basically he was trying to say that he wants to set an example and that is his vision. He obviously also referenced to Naseeruddin by saying that Pakistan was founded because muslims felt they would not be treated equally in India.

If you listen to his whole talk in perspective it was not as bad as how the headline sounds.

His criticism was directed towards both Pakistan aswell.
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He is a sensible man and thinks before he talks, unlike his predecessors.
 
Pretty silly statement by Imran, it seems he has his heart on his sleeve and speaks more with emotions than common sense. Actions speak louder than words Imran, your minority population are disappearing by the minute, instead of shouting out what you are gonna do, prove it with actions..
 
Romali_rotti said:
Pretty silly statement by Imran, it seems he has his heart on his sleeve and speaks more with emotions than common sense. Actions speak louder than words Imran, your minority population are disappearing by the minute, instead of shouting out what you are gonna do, prove it with actions..
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That is simply not true

Minority’s population is statistically increasing both in nominal terms and percentage terms
 
Imran must deal with Swabi incident immediately as it is highly embarrassing for him to criticise minority rights in other countries whilst there is open bigotry in Pakistan.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Monday in the SSC annual exams being held under the Matric Board Karachi, a controversial question 4rm the question paper of Islamic Studies contained (MCQs) asked the students to make a choice that the worst animal before Allah is: donkey, pig, infidels, or monkey. <a href="https://t.co/cQNMfufGw8">pic.twitter.com/cQNMfufGw8</a></p>— Arshad Yousafzai (@Arshadyousafzay) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arshadyousafzay/status/1115299764453695488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Monday in the SSC annual exams being held under the Matric Board Karachi, a controversial question 4rm the question paper of Islamic Studies contained (MCQs) asked the students to make a choice that the worst animal before Allah is: donkey, pig, infidels, or monkey. <a href="https://t.co/cQNMfufGw8">pic.twitter.com/cQNMfufGw8</a></p>— Arshad Yousafzai (@Arshadyousafzay) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arshadyousafzay/status/1115299764453695488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Infidels. Easy one.
 
Natasha was one of hundreds of Pakistani girls who have been married off to Chinese men in return for cash payments to their families, most of them poor Christians.

It has been reported how Christian pastors and Pakistani and Chinese brokers work together in a lucrative trade, pursuing Pakistani girls who are tricked into fraudulent marriages and find themselves trapped in China with sometimes abusive husbands.

Since then, police investigations have uncovered that many of the women are forced into prostitution in China. A picture of the extent of the trafficking networks has emerged from a series of arrests and raids in recent weeks by FIA, as well as testimony from victims.

Families are told their daughters will be wed to well-off businessmen and given good lives in China, and the marriage trade is depicted as a benefit for all sides impoverished parents receive money, while Chinese men find brides in a country where men outnumber women. But investigators are increasingly convinced that the majority of the girls are sold into prostitution, two law enforcement officials familiar with the investigations said.

“The girls who are interviewed say they were tortured” using a euphemism for rape and forced prostitution, said one of the officials. “They are afraid for their families and for the disgust they fear they will feel. ... Make no mistake, this is trafficking.”

Government is seeking to keep the matter quiet

However, even as investigators are uncovering the scope of the trade, the government has sought to keep it quiet. Senior government officials have ordered investigators to remain silent about the trafficking because they don’t want to jeopardise Pakistan’s increasingly close economic relationship with China, the two officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity for that reason.

China’s ambassador to Pakistan has gone on local television channels denying girls are trafficked to China and sold into prostitution. The issue of human trafficking was not discussed during a visit to Pakistan this month by China’s vice president, Wang Qishan, who held talks with Prime Minister Imran Khan and Pakistan’s president.

“China is denying it is happening, but we are showing the proof,” said Saleem Iqbal, an activist who has helped bring girls back from China and collects evidence of trafficking networks that he provides to police.

The AP spoke by messaging app with Arooj, a Pakistani girl still trapped in China. She said her husband beat her and would come home drunk with friends and force her to have sex with them. Like many of the girls, she wasn’t sure where she was in China; often they are taken from Beijing on flights elsewhere in the country, then driven for hours to small towns, without being told the destination.

Punjab’s Human Rights and Minorities Minister Ijaz Alam Augustine estimated that more than 500 women have been trafficked to China, while Iqbal put the figure at 750 to 1,000.

The two law enforcement officials said the Lahore-based network had been operating for at least a year. The network was protected by corrupt policemen, and the son of a former senior police official served as the lynchpin between the Chinese and Pakistani operatives, the officials said.

The network also benefited from lax oversight by authorities, they said. For example, at least five of the Chinese traffickers were able to enter Pakistan on business visas based on companies that didn’t exist.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawn.com/news/amp/1488835
 
Pakistan needs to put its own house in order before lecturing others about minority rights.
 
What is the verdict of Pakistanis living in Pakistan? Is this government doing a better job at minority welfare compared to the PML(N) and PPP governments?
 
Swashbuckler said:
What is the verdict of Pakistanis living in Pakistan? Is this government doing a better job at minority welfare compared to the PML(N) and PPP governments?
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Lol it is but there’s literally no bar there
 
Hitman said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] - Your views?
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Just another day for Imran Khan the great con-artist. However, I am sure even he was laughing out loud when he stated that Pakistan will serve as an example for Modi’s government when it comes to treating minorities. Naya Pakistan becomes a bigger joke with each passing day.

[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]

Explanation please. Now please don’t deflect the issue by highlighting the treatment of Muslims in India. Shame on PTI.
 
Mamoon said:
Just another day for Imran Khan the great con-artist. However, I am sure even he was laughing out loud when he stated that Pakistan will serve as an example for Modi’s government when it comes to treating minorities. Naya Pakistan becomes a bigger joke with each passing day.

[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]

Explanation please. Now please don’t deflect the issue by highlighting the treatment of Muslims in India. Shame on PTI.
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The treatment of muslims in Ind is a disgrace.
 
Mamoon said:
Just another day for Imran Khan the great con-artist. However, I am sure even he was laughing out loud when he stated that Pakistan will serve as an example for Modi’s government when it comes to treating minorities. Naya Pakistan becomes a bigger joke with each passing day.

[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]

Explanation please. Now please don’t deflect the issue by highlighting the treatment of Muslims in India. Shame on PTI.
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He was sacked and now has a lower position. Everyone deserves a second chance but in India, doezens of BJP party members have said similar or worse but none sacked. Im sure this chap wont make any remarks again but you can bet your bottom dollar the BJP right wingers will but you're ok with them.
 
Hitman said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] - Your views?
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It’s not right but the thread topic still stands and has a lot of merit

In India people who are accused of genocide are Prime ministers and people who passed way worse remarks (Yogi and Amit Shah) than Chauhan are in senior government positions.

Chauhan was demoted from national to provincial role but yes in isolation this is shameful
 
Slog said:
It’s not right but the thread topic still stands and has a lot of merit

In India people who are accused of genocide are Prime ministers and people who passed way worse remarks (Yogi and Amit Shah) than Chauhan are in senior government positions.

Chauhan was demoted from national to provincial role but yes in isolation this is shameful
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In India people dont become a genocidal person just because pakistanis say so. No one convicted of genocide has become PM of India.

What remarks of Shah and Yogi?

Oh btw usually i do not care what Imran Khan does with minorities in his country. His country, his countrymen and his problem. But since all IK can do is talk about India, i find this remark of him amusing.
 
Bewal Express said:
The treatment of muslims in Ind is a disgrace.
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Far better than how Hindus are treated in Pakistan, who have to run to India and seek asylum. Or Ahmadis who have to run away to Lanka. Or Christians who had to run away to Canada despite being acquitted by courts.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Far better than how Hindus are treated in Pakistan, who have to run to India and seek asylum. Or Ahmadis who have to run away to Lanka. Or Christians who had to run away to Canada despite being acquitted by courts.
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Yes that's why they are lynched as a national sport.
 
Bewal Express said:
Yes that's why they are lynched as a national sport.
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Muslims have killed Hindus too. Just because its not posted on PP doesnot mean it doesnt happen.

Muslims have killed hindus, because one guy refused to give free Lassi, or dated a muslim girl or was simply a practising hindu. Recently a muslim mob vandalised a temple in Delhi.

Hindu-Muslim clashes have been happening in the SC since centuries. But muslims from India are seeking asylum in Pakistan.

You guys cant take care of your minorities and give lecture to others. Or may be since Kafir lives dont matter, its not a big issue.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Far better than how Hindus are treated in Pakistan, who have to run to India and seek asylum. Or Ahmadis who have to run away to Lanka. Or Christians who had to run away to Canada despite being acquitted by courts.
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How many Hindus were beaten/killed by a muslim mob in Pakistan? Whats wrong in accepting that life of muslims in India is getting worse with each passing day? There are many Indians who want to settle abroad and never come back to India. Does this count? :inti
 
Arguing over who treats minorities better, India or Pakistan is like two Norwood 7 bald men arguing about who has better looking hair. Even if you win it's nothing to brag about.
 
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KingKhanWC said:
He was sacked and now has a lower position. Everyone deserves a second chance but in India, doezens of BJP party members have said similar or worse but none sacked. Im sure this chap wont make any remarks again but you can bet your bottom dollar the BJP right wingers will but you're ok with them.
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After his comments, he didn’t deserve a second chance. He deserved a one-way ticket home. The fact that has been given a new ministry clearly shows that Imran and his government don’t give two hoots about minorities.

Also, we cannot forget how Imran Khan removed Atif Mian, one of the leading economists in the world, because of his Ahmadi beliefs.

Imran Khan and the people of Pakistan should focus on their own country instead of running their mouths against a vastly superior country.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Arguing over who treats minorities better, India or Pakistan is like two Norwood 7 bald men arguing about who has better looking hair. Even if you win it's nothing to brag about.
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This. Pakistan comparing itself to India or India comparing itself to Pakistan, we’re setting the bar way too low.
 
Mamoon said:
After his comments, he didn’t deserve a second chance. He deserved a one-way ticket home. The fact that has been given a new ministry clearly shows that Imran and his government don’t give two hoots about minorities.

Also, we cannot forget how Imran Khan removed Atif Mian, one of the leading economists in the world, because of his Ahmadi beliefs.

Imran Khan and the people of Pakistan should focus on their own country instead of running their mouths against a vastly superior country.
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Who passed a resolution against his appointment? Ask the copy and paste king- he will tell you.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
How many Hindus were beaten/killed by a muslim mob in Pakistan? Whats wrong in accepting that life of muslims in India is getting worse with each passing day? There are many Indians who want to settle abroad and never come back to India. Does this count? :inti
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Despite what i said to wind up the hypocrite [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]( who pretends to be all tolerant and supports the PPP whose leaders are in cahoots with an unelected "religious leader" and whose Wadera oppress more Hindus in Sindh than anyone) but as a Pk I am embarrassed by our treatment of all minorities in PK. This is not a good move by the PTI- its mainly done as they dont have a majority in the Punjab Assembly but nonetheless the guy should have gone permanently.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Arguing over who treats minorities better, India or Pakistan is like two Norwood 7 bald men arguing about who has better looking hair. Even if you win it's nothing to brag about.
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Speaking of bald men.......

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Minorities feel safe in India, unlike Pakistan: <a href="https://twitter.com/rajnathsingh?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@rajnathsingh</a> <a href="https://t.co/73GALBNNR4">https://t.co/73GALBNNR4</a> <a href="https://t.co/Z8kN0XFkab">pic.twitter.com/Z8kN0XFkab</a></p>— Times of India (@timesofindia) <a href="https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/1173204817809944576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
How many Hindus were beaten/killed by a muslim mob in Pakistan? Whats wrong in accepting that life of muslims in India is getting worse with each passing day? :inti
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Do you have any proof that life for majority of muslims in India is getting worse with each passing day ? :inti:
 
Looks like Kashmir issue is helping the minorities in Pakistan. All of a sudden there is support for a Hindu guy despite being involved in a blasphemy case. When you call the other a "racist", there is this urge to prove that you aren't.
 
rhony said:
Looks like Kashmir issue is helping the minorities in Pakistan. All of a sudden there is support for a Hindu guy despite being involved in a blasphemy case. When you call the other a "racist", there is this urge to prove that you aren't.
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Are you trying to compare Pakistan with India?

Indian racism is on national level, do you remember Modi running is campaign to make India Hindu only, Again?

How else Hindu India would try to get authority over Muslim Kashmir?
 
kk1992 said:
Are you trying to compare Pakistan with India?

Indian racism is on national level, do you remember Modi running is campaign to make India Hindu only, Again?

How else Hindu India would try to get authority over Muslim Kashmir?
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Show me one article where Modi said he wants to make India Hindu.
 
rhony said:
Show me one article where Modi said he wants to make India Hindu.
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Are you denying BJP ministers have openly spoken about a Hindu Rashtriya and it is the main objective of RSS outfits to turn Bharat into a Hindu Rashtriya in the next five years?
 
Iqbal'sh said:
Are you denying BJP ministers have openly spoken about a Hindu Rashtriya and it is the main objective of RSS outfits to turn Bharat into a Hindu Rashtriya in the next five years?
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Goons can say what they want. It's a free country. There are Muslim religious leaders in India wanting Shariah law as well. Will that happen? It's all rhetoric for elections and Modi never said anything about converting India into a Hindu country.
 
rhony said:
Goons can say what they want. It's a free country. There are Muslim religious leaders in India wanting Shariah law as well. Will that happen? It's all rhetoric for elections and Modi never said anything about converting India into a Hindu country.
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BJP ministers = goons as well?
What does that make the PM then?

Modi does not have to say anything as his team is talking. Has he denied that what some of his elected members are saying is not his policy?

https://thewire.in/politics/bjp-rss-ultimate-goal-hindu-rashtra-article-370-kashmir/amp/

https://amp.scroll.in/article/92107...al-to-turn-india-into-a-violent-hindu-rashtra

https://www.aninews.in/videos/national/india-will-become-hindu-rashtra-2024-says-bjp-mla/
 
Romali_rotti said:
Do you have any proof that life for majority of muslims in India is getting worse with each passing day ? :inti:
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Not just Indian Muslims , just about anyone who does NOT agree with Govt policies is afraid to speak out because the evil duo are vindictive & their followers rabid !
 
Excellent statements by Imran here. With each passing day, I’m convinced he is here to change the sub continent politics forever. He is setting the bar so high up, its difficult to reach it. India has become a hell for minorities. Muslims are living in bad conditions and are scared to say anything because of bjp and rss goons. Minorities in Pakistan are way better off :inti
 
Romali_rotti said:
Do you have any proof that life for majority of muslims in India is getting worse with each passing day ? :inti:
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NRI's should be the last ones to talk about living in India. It looks good from your Australian house/office but you actually have to live in India and interact with people to know these things. :inti
 
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