"Will the world watch & appease as they did Hitler at Munich?" : PM Imran Khan on Narendra Modi

[Varun]

Uhmm any sane Pakistani knows IK cant do much with regards to the Indian agression in Kashmir.

But that doest mean you should stop commenting about it. What Pakistan can do is to highlight the issue and address the wrong doings of the Indian government.

Replace India with China there, and your generalization doesn't hold. Pakistan hasn't highlighted anything.

How come?

 

[xbronze]

And I thought you were a smart poster..

You seriously comparing Kashmir to other Muslims around the world

So explain why Pakistan would support China's right to persecute Uighurs by continuing to:

1. Force Uighur muslims to join Han Chinese in consuming Pork and Wine to celebrate the Chinese Lunar New year.
2. Forced Uighur women to have abortions.
3. Use Uighurs in concentration camps (called 'Re-education camps') to harvest their organs to meet organ shortages that are delaying transplants in Chinese hospitals.
4. Disallowing Uighurs to go on Haj pilgrimage
5. Forcing Uighur homes to allow a Han person to live 24/7 in their home so Uighur families can be monitored to ensure they give up their Islamic traditions, culture, lifestyle and any 'terrorist tendencies' as the Chinese government calls it.
6. Disallowing Uighur children from exchanging any Islamic greetings, in schools.

Pakistan could easily choose NOT TO VOTE on the UN resolution even if Pakistan does not want to annoy China. But why does Pakistan actually vote to support the Chinese persecution of Uighur muslims?

I mean, Pakistan is at the forefront of fighting for Palestinian and Kashmiri muslims, but then turns around and actually votes in the UN to support China's continued persecution of Uighurs. Why?

 

[IMMY69]

So explain why Pakistan would support China's right to persecute Uighurs by continuing to:

1. Force Uighur muslims to join Han Chinese in consuming Pork and Wine to celebrate the Chinese Lunar New year.
2. Forced Uighur women to have abortions.
3. Use Uighurs in concentration camps (called 'Re-education camps') to harvest their organs to meet organ shortages that are delaying transplants in Chinese hospitals.
4. Disallowing Uighurs to go on Haj pilgrimage
5. Forcing Uighur homes to allow a Han person to live 24/7 in their home so Uighur families can be monitored to ensure they give up their Islamic traditions, culture, lifestyle and any 'terrorist tendencies' as the Chinese government calls it.
6. Disallowing Uighur children from exchanging any Islamic greetings, in schools.

Pakistan could easily choose NOT TO VOTE on the UN resolution even if Pakistan does not want to annoy China. But why does Pakistan actually vote to support the Chinese persecution of Uighur muslims?

I mean, Pakistan is at the forefront of fighting for Palestinian and Kashmiri muslims, but then turns around and actually votes in the UN to support China's continued persecution of Uighurs. Why?

Sorry but you have completely missed the point.
Next time just ask rather then going into an essay.

But don’t ask now... maybe think it over and ask tomorrow, if you still have too..

 

[IMMY69]

Of course. He seems like a very weak leader who is always asking for help from others be it on the issue of kashmir or even for the financial crisis.

Doesn't seem to inspire others as the PM.

Enjoying the ladoo?

 

[xbronze]

Sorry but you have completely missed the point.
Next time just ask rather then going into an essay.

But don’t ask now... maybe think it over and ask tomorrow, if you still have too..

lol...is that the best you could come up with? Very telling.

 

[wasimjunior]

A few hundred people holding Pakistan flags won't matter much when there are millions involved. News will show those few hundred people. No news will show people who are not holding those flags and are going to offices or schools because it's boring. The best days for Azadi dream were during the 60s when India and Pakistan were weak. Kashmiris played no part back then. The Azadi beat wasn't strong until the 90s when Pak diverted the Afghani jihadis into India. As it happens always with jihadis, they all went to jannat prematurely. The peaceful conflict became an armed conflict and world powers took it easy. India did what all powers do to quash terrorism. Right now it's an armed conflict with stones. They will die eventually of old age, diabetes or something. India will do what it can to captivate the next gen. There is no hurry. Pak tried something in the 90s and it didn't work. Let's see if what India does works now.

You didn’t answer my question..

Why are they holding Pak flags if it’s such an integral part of India and so happy with your occupation?

Doesn’t matter if it’s hundreds or millions- this illustrates a fact which is embarrassing for India.

 

[IMMY69]

lol...is that the best you could come up with? Very telling.

History.
Kashmir
Pakistan

 

[Itachi]

Enjoying the ladoo?

I don't understand why you need to be so sarcastic out of frustration.

IK has failed in the diplomatic battle. Now he is asking for help from rest of the community. If this isn't a weaker pm than who is?

 

[IMMY69]

Of course. He seems like a very weak leader who is always asking for help from others be it on the issue of kashmir or even for the financial crisis.

Doesn't seem to inspire others as the PM.

During his speach in Pariliament, the opposition thieves purposely arrived late.
They spoke after his speach which by the way was brilliant..

He then rhetorical asked the opposition what else should he do and then the corrupt press spun it for the gullible public.

The difference between IK and others is that he is strong.
Don’t be fooled by inactivity.

In his very first speach to the nation he directly addressed India and said we’ll take two steps if India takes one. No other corrupt leader would have the gall to say that knowing there would be backlash...

The country has been left ruined financially, but you already know that.
None of this is IK’s fault.

 

[xbronze]

You didn’t answer my question..

Why are they holding Pak flags if it’s such an integral part of India and so happy with your occupation?

Doesn’t matter if it’s hundreds or millions- this illustrates a fact which is embarrassing for India.

There have been flags and independent movements in many parts of India over the past 72 years. Most of them are long forgotten. And that is not unique to India. Many nations including the US, Canada, Spain, UK, have had, and do have, their share of such movements.

For all of India's inadequacies, India has proven to be very astute in the way it manages and nullifies such movements. I cannot think of one other nation that has had to face so many secessionist movements, and has successfully negotiated an end to as many.

Infact for a nation that has a sizeable population of people of varying religions, languages, ethnicities, India has done very well to remain one even after severn decades. Pakistan was even more homogenous as compared to India, and yet got split into two even though both parts - West Pakistan and East Pakistan, largely comprised of followers of Islam. This is not meant to be a criticism of Pakistan, just to highlight the challenges that large nations like Pakistan and India will always have to face.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Of course. He seems like a very weak leader who is always asking for help from others be it on the issue of kashmir or even for the financial crisis.

Doesn't seem to inspire others as the PM.

Yes I agree, he showed his weakness on the 27th February when the chai wala and his 1bn followers were shown their auqat

 

[Kaptan]

So explain why Pakistan would support China's right to persecute Uighurs by continuing to:

1. Force Uighur muslims to join Han Chinese in consuming Pork and Wine to celebrate the Chinese Lunar New year.
2. Forced Uighur women to have abortions.
3. Use Uighurs in concentration camps (called 'Re-education camps') to harvest their organs to meet organ shortages that are delaying transplants in Chinese hospitals.
4. Disallowing Uighurs to go on Haj pilgrimage
5. Forcing Uighur homes to allow a Han person to live 24/7 in their home so Uighur families can be monitored to ensure they give up their Islamic traditions, culture, lifestyle and any 'terrorist tendencies' as the Chinese government calls it.
6. Disallowing Uighur children from exchanging any Islamic greetings, in schools.

Pakistan could easily choose NOT TO VOTE on the UN resolution even if Pakistan does not want to annoy China. But why does Pakistan actually vote to support the Chinese persecution of Uighur muslims?

I mean, Pakistan is at the forefront of fighting for Palestinian and Kashmiri muslims, but then turns around and actually votes in the UN to support China's continued persecution of Uighurs. Why?

Wow, Kashmiris are living in "Jannat" when compared to Uighur Muslims.

Never saw any Pakistani condemning China. Why would they ? Chinese paise se inka ghar chalta hai.

 

[Pakistanian]

Wow, Kashmiris are living in "Jannat" when compared to Uighur Muslims.

Never saw any Pakistani condemning China. Why would they ? Chinese paise se inka ghar chalta hai.

I hate both india and china, happy?

 

[Itachi]

Yes I agree, he showed his weakness on the 27th February when the chai wala and his 1bn followers were shown their auqat

.... Battle is won. War is lost. How does that paint a greater pic for IK?

 

[Varun]

I hate both india and china, happy?

Funny that comes out only after 99999 posts and only when pushed to a corner.

 

[Itachi]

I hate both india and china, happy?

Nope. You lack key basics in terms of affairs related to India. Read those and then state. Then people will accept.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

.... Battle is won. War is lost. How does that paint a greater pic for IK?

War has not started yet, presumptuous of you to declare a victory already.
The picture of the chai wala and his extremist party that the world is beginning to see is what IK wants to achieve. It’s still early but by and large his ploy is making traction.

 

[Itachi]

War has not started yet, presumptuous of you to declare a victory already.
The picture of the chai wala and his extremist party that the world is beginning to see is what IK wants to achieve. It’s still early but by and large his ploy is making traction.

Let's see. Because as it stands now, Pakistan can't even stand on its own feet due to borrowing where as India is integrating what is rightfully ours.

 

[Pakistanian]

Funny that comes out only after 99999 posts and only when pushed to a corner.

Um..I've always hated y'all.

 

[IMMY69]

Let's see. Because as it stands now, Pakistan can't even stand on its own feet due to borrowing where as India is integrating what is rightfully ours.

Kashmir does not belong to India.

 

[Itachi]

Kashmir does not belong to India.

As of today, legally it does.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

As of today, legally it does.

Robbery is never legal

 

[xbronze]

Kashmir does not belong to India.

In geopolitics we need to keep emotions aside and accept the cold hard facts. Pakistanis emotionally feel India should hand over all of Kashmir to Pakistan. Indians may dream of Pakistan handing back all of POK to India. Stalemate.

So the best we can do as two mature important nations on the world stage is to accept that we cannot change much on the ground after 72 years. And ACCEPT that POK is with Pakistan as of now, and that Indian Kashmir is Indias. Then move on to developing our respective nations.

 

[Itachi]

Robbery is never legal

If it was illegal (?), then Pakistan has a strong case. Isn't it?

And if Pakistan has such a strong case, Instead of taking any steps, IK asking other countries to help doesn't seem to paint him as a great leader. Does it?

Because if you have a strong case yet still need to depend upon others to make the moves, you surely aren't competent authority.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

If it was illegal (?), then Pakistan has a strong case. Isn't it?

And if Pakistan has such a strong case, Instead of taking any steps, IK asking other countries to help doesn't seem to paint him as a great leader. Does it?

Because if you have a strong case yet still need to depend upon others to make the moves, you surely aren't competent authority.

It doesn’t belong to Pakistan it belongs to the Kashmiris.

 

[IMMY69]

As of today, legally it does.

No it does not.
This is why we compare India’s move to Nazism.

 

[Itachi]

No it does not.
This is why we compare India’s move to Nazism.

Mine or your words don't matter.

What is written in constitution matters.

 

[Itachi]

It doesn’t belong to Pakistan it belongs to the Kashmiris.

And annexation act gave the authority of kashmir to India.

 

[IMMY69]

If it was illegal (?), then Pakistan has a strong case. Isn't it?

And if Pakistan has such a strong case, Instead of taking any steps, IK asking other countries to help doesn't seem to paint him as a great leader. Does it?

Because if you have a strong case yet still need to depend upon others to make the moves, you surely aren't competent authority.

You really have to wake up a little.

First you compare Kashmir with other Muslim plights around the world dismissing the history behind the creation of Pakistan and how Kashmir fits into it...

Now you make it out like a legal battle between India and Pakistan and IK’s inactivity...

Facts are Kashmir should have a plebiscite and if they decide to be a sovereign nation then both countries have to accept that.

IK can do little now, it is upto the People of Kashmir to challenge this legally in the Indian Surpreme Court and they have already started the process.

Pakistan can approach the UN and the international court of justice, and they have done this too.

Next step is outright war and IK is showing strength by merely showing restraint.

You won’t win this argument because your extremist government has done something that is both morally and legally wrong.

 

[IMMY69]

Mine or your words don't matter.

What is written in constitution matters.

and you need to read your own constitution because it can’t be changed just like that. The fact it is being changed in the manner it is being done is not only undemocratic but why it is compared to extreme Nazism.

 

[Itachi]

Now you make it out like a legal battle between India and Pakistan and IK’s inactivity...

Facts are Kashmir should have a plebiscite and if they decide to be a sovereign nation then both countries have to accept that.

IK can do little now, it is upto the People of Kashmir to challenge this legally in the Indian Surpreme Court and they have already started the process.

Pakistan can approach the UN and the international court of justice, and they have done this too.

Next step is outright war and IK is showing strength by merely showing restraint.

You won’t win this argument because your extremist government has done something that is both morally and legally wrong.

1. Kashmiris can challenge in the SC. As an Indian citizen, they have all the rights to appeal in SC for any disputes with the authority.

2. Pakistan, which is in the door step of a economical break down, can not afford to have a war. You may get aid from others but unless those countries will be practically in the battle, Pakistan alone won't be able to sustain a war.

 

[Itachi]

and you need to read your own constitution because it can’t be changed just like that. The fact it is being changed in the manner it is being done is not only undemocratic but why it is compared to extreme Nazism.

Thats what I said, if it is unconstitutional, then you can approach SC. No one is stopping anyone. That's the beauty of democracy.

 

[IMMY69]

When you think about it logically, the Indian people should be in absolute shock over their governments move.

But this is another reasons to label it Nazi fascism.
The state backed TV and Media has shipped its people into such a frenzy that they don’t even question their own government...

 

[IMMY69]

Thats what I said, if it is unconstitutional, then you can approach SC. No one is stopping anyone. That's the beauty of democracy.

You should be up in arms about this.

 

[Itachi]

When you think about it logically, the Indian people should be in absolute shock over their governments move.

But this is another reasons to label it Nazi fascism.
The state backed TV and Media has shipped its people into such a frenzy that they don’t even question their own government...

Why Indians will be shocked? Kashmir isn't the only state where such integration has happened. According to requirements, the status of a state is changed from time to time. It is just a natural flow of any political system in any big country.

 

[IMMY69]

1. Kashmiris can challenge in the SC. As an Indian citizen, they have all the rights to appeal in SC for any disputes with the authority.

2. Pakistan, which is in the door step of a economical break down, can not afford to have a war. You may get aid from others but unless those countries will be practically in the battle, Pakistan alone won't be able to sustain a war.

This is about you, and Indian, and the poor people of Kashmir.
Pakistan should continue to highlight it.

At this stage nothing more can be done.
I just hope that no more innocent lives are lost

 

[IMMY69]

Why Indians will be shocked? Kashmir isn't the only state where such integration has happened. According to requirements, the status of a state is changed from time to time. It is just a natural flow of any political system in any big country.

Again, Kashmir’s asension to India was conditional and this was written into the Indian constitution...

 

[Itachi]

You should be up in arms about this.

I believe it's time the integration should happen by bringing kashmir in to the same umbrella as the other states of india and thus facilitate the industrial, economic, financial, tourism growth as well as benefitting the locals.

 

[Itachi]

This is about you, and Indian, and the poor people of Kashmir.
Pakistan should continue to highlight it.

At this stage nothing more can be done.
I just hope that no more innocent lives are lost

To be honest, it is between Kashmiris, Indian govt and SC.

According to your own logic, involvement of Pakistan is illegal.

 

[IMMY69]

To be honest, it is between Kashmiris, Indian govt and SC.

According to your own logic, involvement of Pakistan is illegal.

Well no.
Pakistan has a claim too. Depends upon the result of the plebiscite

 

[Itachi]

Well no.
Pakistan has a claim too. Depends upon the result of the plebiscite

On what ground Pakistan has a right?

 

[pakistani pride]

It seems like IK has given up from his side and is now asking other communities to help.

Not a great sign for Pakistani PM I must say.

Given up?
What exactly can IK do in this case?

Please enlighten us.

 

[pakistani pride]

Replace India with China there, and your generalization doesn't hold. Pakistan hasn't highlighted anything.

How come?

I guesa your smart enough to know and understand why Pakistan will NEVER highlight the China crime(s).

Its no rocket science really..

 

[Itachi]

Given up?
What exactly can IK do in this case?

Please enlighten us.

It's IK and the administration to decide.

If there's nothing can be done except begging others, then I must say, India overestimated the ability of Pakistan for 70 years.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's IK and the administration to decide.

If there's nothing can be done except begging others, then I must say, India overestimated the ability of Pakistan for 70 years.

Pakistan will now support the resistance and freedom movement which will go outside of Kashmir and into main cities of India.

No need for Pak to beg when we have this option ready and waiting.

 

[Itachi]

Pakistan will now support the resistance and freedom movement which will go outside of Kashmir and into main cities of India.

No need for Pak to beg when we have this option ready and waiting.

Pakistan are at the verge of break down with debts piling up. Before making such bold claims to support movements, I think Pakistan should take care of its own people first.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Pakistan are at the verge of break down with debts piling up. Before making such bold claims to support movements, I think Pakistan should take care of its own people first.

So should India instead of sending hundreds of thousands of troops to Kashmir, build toilets in their own land first. Pakistan has been left with no choice due to Indian state terrorism.

 

[IMMY69]

On what ground Pakistan has a right?

Because Kashmir was 70pct Muslim majority and had a boarder when Pakistan was created. On the terms of the separation, Kashmir should have ceded with Pakistan.

 

[MenInG]

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, during a telephonic conversation with Prime Minister Imran Khan on Sunday, expressed concern over the "atrocities and killing of innocent people in occupied Jammu and Kashmir," a statement released by the Prime Minister's Office said.

The call was made as part of PM Imran's outreach to world leaders with a view to apprise them of the grave situation in the region and to urge them to take action.

During the conversation, the prime minister underlined that India's move to change the status of occupied Jammu and Kashmir — which is internationally recognised as a disputed region — was in violation of the United Nations Security Council resolutions.

He also highlighted the serious threat of "massive killings as part of the crackdown by Indian forces" and called on the international community to play their part and act urgently to prevent "the impending calamity", according to the statement.

PM Imran conveyed to President Rouhani Pakistan's willingness to resolve the dispute and how it had made "repeated calls and efforts" urging India to carve out a solution through peaceful means and in accordance with the UNSC resolutions.

"President Hassan Rouhani, while underlining that all possible efforts must be made to keep the regional tensions low, stressed that the Muslims of Kashmir must be able to use their legal rights and interests to be able to live in peace," read the PM Office statement.

It added that the Iranian leader "expressed his concerns over the atrocities and killing of innocent people" in the disputed region.

The prime minister "appreciated Iran's principled stance on the Kashmir issue and Iranian leadership's consistently strong voice in support of the rights and well-being of the people of Kashmir".

It was agreed by both leaders that "no military solution existed" to the long-standing dispute.

PM Imran "stressed that India should be counselled to immediately resolve the issue under the UN resolutions", the statement said.

The two leaders also "expressed satisfaction" that significant progress had been made to further strengthen the relations between Iran and Pakistan, particularly following the prime minister's visit to Tehran in April.



https://www.dawn.com/news/1499299/r...innocent-people-in-occupied-jammu-and-kashmir

 

[xbronze]

and you need to read your own constitution because it can’t be changed just like that. The fact it is being changed in the manner it is being done is not only undemocratic but why it is compared to extreme Nazism.

Wow...so according to you, the elected representatives of the parliament making 'amendments' to the constitution of India, amounts to Nazism.

And what about Military dictator after Military dictator of Pakistan not just making 'amendment' to Pakistan's constitution, but actually declaring the 'entire Pakistani constitution' NULL and VOID, and then creating another constitution? Would that also amount to Nazism?

 

[xbronze]

Because Kashmir was 70pct Muslim majority and had a boarder when Pakistan was created. On the terms of the separation, Kashmir should have ceded with Pakistan.

Any link to to this so called 'terms of the separation'?

 

[rhony]

You didn’t answer my question..

Why are they holding Pak flags if it’s such an integral part of India and so happy with your occupation?

Doesn’t matter if it’s hundreds or millions- this illustrates a fact which is embarrassing for India.

It's not about happiness. If they are happy, there won't be 700k soldiers there. Doesn't mean their grand kids will not be happy. It's a long game.

As far as the flags go, if they are true Pakistani patriots, they will go to Pakistan and not stick around that dump with curfiews. They are not even going to Pakistan for "training" yet. So people should ignore them. If at all they go to training and come back, they will find themselves in a ditch somewhere in a few days. So, it's a minor embarrassment for Indian govt but it's not a priority. Key is to stay poised and target only those that attack. Flag waving and peaceful protests should be ignored.

 

[xbronze]

Pakistan will now support the resistance and freedom movement which will go outside of Kashmir and into main cities of India.

No need for Pak to beg when we have this option ready and waiting.

For over a week now millions of emotional and agitated Pakistanis online have been declaring that they are going to march into India and do what their own army is unwilling to do...Physically wrest back Kashmir into Pakistan. Loudest voice among them - Zaid Hamid.

It has been a full week. Yet, the first Pakistani keyboard warrior is yet to show up on the Indian border. The Indian soldiers are waiting with machine guns, to gun down anyone who steps on the border, says the Indian Army General commanding the Chinar Corps/Garrison HeadQuarters, Srinagar. "They will be immediately eliminated", were his words on TV.

When Pakistani net warriors asked Zaid Hamid why he is not himself going to Indian Kashmir, and only rabble rousing other Pakistanis to go and get killed by the Indian Army in Kashmir, Zaid Hamid posted that he prefers to stay put in his house as he has bigger '5th generation perception' battles to fight sitting in front of his computer. He may send his son to Kashmir instead.

Well ordinary Pakistanis are free to try their luck to walk into Indian Kashmir and cut it like a piece of cake and take it back in their pocket as a gift to the Pakistani awam. I shall not recommend that.

Hopefully the regular citizens on either side of the border stay out of this and just let the two governments sort this out.

 

[KingKhanWC]

For over a week now millions of emotional and agitated Pakistanis online have been declaring that they are going to march into India and do what their own army is unwilling to do...Physically wrest back Kashmir into Pakistan. Loudest voice among them - Zaid Hamid.

It has been a full week. Yet, the first Pakistani keyboard warrior is yet to show up on the Indian border. The Indian soldiers are waiting with machine guns, to gun down anyone who steps on the border, says the Indian Army General commanding the Chinar Corps/Garrison HeadQuarters, Srinagar. "They will be immediately eliminated", were his words on TV.

When Pakistani net warriors asked Zaid Hamid why he is not himself going to Indian Kashmir, and only rabble rousing other Pakistanis to go and get killed by the Indian Army in Kashmir, Zaid Hamid posted that he prefers to stay put in his house as he has bigger '5th generation perception' battles to fight sitting in front of his computer. He may send his son to Kashmir instead.

Well ordinary Pakistanis are free to try their luck to walk into Indian Kashmir and cut it like a piece of cake and take it back in their pocket as a gift to the Pakistani awam. I shall not recommend that.

Hopefully the regular citizens on either side of the border stay out of this and just let the two governments sort this out.

lol. No need to march into a dump, this is all in your head.

The tools are already present to turn the screws, you will see in the future and remember we told you so.

 

[pakistani pride]

It's IK and the administration to decide.

If there's nothing can be done except begging others, then I must say, India overestimated the ability of Pakistan for 70 years.

To counter this Indian agression the only thing PAK can do is to start a war but that will not happen.

All of this is happening in IOK you make it seems like India has entered POK.

Once again this is Indias internal matter, dont understand why amd what IK or Pak can do here besides attacking India in IOK.

 

[xbronze]

lol. No need to march into a dump, this is all in your head.

The tools are already present to turn the screws, you will see in the future and remember we told you so.

And you also remember what Pulwama attack got Pakistan in return:

1. Air raid into Balakot in Pakistan territory (accepted by DGISPR of Pakistan)
2. Ariticle 370 revoked. Kashmir integrated into India. Indians now free to migrate into, but land in, and marry with Kashmiris with full inheritance rights to Kashmiri women marrying non Kashmiris.

Please try Pulwama2, so we get a justification to stop river waters flowing into Pakistan.

Lol, Pakistan working over time to help India achieve its strategic goals. Thank you.

 

[IMMY69]

Wow...so according to you, the elected representatives of the parliament making 'amendments' to the constitution of India, amounts to Nazism.

And what about Military dictator after Military dictator of Pakistan not just making 'amendment' to Pakistan's constitution, but actually declaring the 'entire Pakistani constitution' NULL and VOID, and then creating another constitution? Would that also amount to Nazism?

You can read up on it for yourself.

I’m not going to explain how your own constitution works and how it can be amended.

I can debate about Pakistan’s constitution till the cows come home but it won’t change anything.

 

[IMMY69]

And you also remember what Pulwama attack got Pakistan in return:

1. Air raid into Balakot in Pakistan territory (accepted by DGISPR of Pakistan)
2. Ariticle 370 revoked. Kashmir integrated into India. Indians now free to migrate into, but land in, and marry with Kashmiris with full inheritance rights to Kashmiri women marrying non Kashmiris.

Please try Pulwama2, so we get a justification to stop river waters flowing into Pakistan.

Lol, Pakistan working over time to help India achieve its strategic goals. Thank you.

See..
Brainwashing...

 

[chacha kashmiri]

And you also remember what Pulwama attack got Pakistan in return:

1. Air raid into Balakot in Pakistan territory (accepted by DGISPR of Pakistan)
2. Ariticle 370 revoked. Kashmir integrated into India. Indians now free to migrate into, but land in, and marry with Kashmiris with full inheritance rights to Kashmiri women marrying non Kashmiris.

Please try Pulwama2, so we get a justification to stop river waters flowing into Pakistan.

Lol, Pakistan working over time to help India achieve its strategic goals. Thank you.

Indian Muslims already have the right to marry non Muslims and even convert them
I don’t understand the big issue
I’m sure Kashmiri girls won’t mind migrating to India and increasing the Muslim population there

 

[KingKhanWC]

And you also remember what Pulwama attack got Pakistan in return:

1. Air raid into Balakot in Pakistan territory (accepted by DGISPR of Pakistan)
2. Ariticle 370 revoked. Kashmir integrated into India. Indians now free to migrate into, but land in, and marry with Kashmiris with full inheritance rights to Kashmiri women marrying non Kashmiris.

Please try Pulwama2, so we get a justification to stop river waters flowing into Pakistan.

Lol, Pakistan working over time to help India achieve its strategic goals. Thank you.

1. You hit trees and ran off.
2. You were already occupying Kashmir, this is an extension which has lit the fuse.

India wont stop all water, cowardly nations and cowardly armies only attack the weak and unarmed.

 

[anand99]

Seems like IK is also having a serious meltdown like many pakistanis on this forum. Grasping at straws with the Nazi equivalency.

 

[mgtow]

Ever since Imran came to the powers, the world is starting to notice Pakistan in new light. Before that, it was dead-end voiceless due to Nawaz’s pro-India stance and anti-Army stance.

India is feeling lots of heat lately, but that being said, if India is risking the bad image and possible isolation, that means India has backing from Israel, and USA indirectly.

 

[anand99]

Ever since Imran came to the powers, the world is starting to notice Pakistan in new light. Before that, it was dead-end voiceless due to Nawaz’s pro-India stance and anti-Army stance.

India is feeling lots of heat lately, but that being said, if India is risking the bad image and possible isolation, that means India has backing from Israel, and USA indirectly.

Get out much?

 

[slipcatch]

I see many Indian Hindu, Hindutva keep bringing in Muslims of China.

The question they are keep asking is why isn't PM of Pakistan and general Population of Pakistan speaking out against the treatment of Chinese Muslims.

By keep referring to Chinese Muslims, Indian Hindu, Hindutva, have admitted that the Muslims of Kashmir are being marginalized, are being indiscriminately killed, female were/are raped, and their right have been taken away by the occupying Indian forces but they are hurt about "why Pakistani are not speaking against China".

You can't reason with people with that kind of mentality, where they are questioning other for exposing them but look within themselves.

IK is 100% correct, if Hindutva government have to kill every Kashmiri to keep the control over Kashmir then they will do it and will label it them as terrorist.

If the Kahsmiri freedom fighters, who were conceived, born, raised, are terrorists fighting against the Indian occupying forces then every Indian whose ancestor fought for freedom are terrorist, too.

And who are Indians to tell or ask us who should Pakistani be concern about?

Pakistan has special connection with Kashmir and will always be concern about the Muslims of Kashmir.

 

[xbronze]

You can read up on it for yourself.

I’m not going to explain how your own constitution works and how it can be amended.

I can debate about Pakistan’s constitution till the cows come home but it won’t change anything.

Question: Any idea if General Bajwa has plans to scrap the current Pakistan constitution like many Pak generals before him, and replace it with a new Bajwa Constitution? Or should we wait for him to depose Imran Khan in a coup first? I am asking because the widespread resentment in Pakistan over the Imran Khan govt's inaction over 370 dissolution by Modi, may just be the situation that Gen Bajwa needs to plot a coup.

[Unrelated point: I personally consider Gen. Bajwa a very efficient and strategic thinker, who has largely been under-estimated by the Pakistani press which used to be so overawed by Gen. Raheel Sharif. Gen. Bajwa, in my opinion is the best Army Chief Pakistan has had in the last 40 years. He has quietly guided Imran Khan, but has chosen to stay away from the limelight. I dont want to go into some great master strokes he has made. Suffice to say that I would be happy to see him retire later this year. From an Indian perspective, hopefully he does not get an extension, but unfortunately an extension seems very likely]

 

[KingKhanWC]

Seems like IK is also having a serious meltdown like many pakistanis on this forum. Grasping at straws with the Nazi equivalency.

Hindutva ideology respect Nazi ideology, check the founders of your Hindutva faith and you will see. So IK is once agiain spot on.

 

[IMMY69]

Hindutva ideology respect Nazi ideology, check the founders of your Hindutva faith and you will see. So IK is once agiain spot on.

Dear oh dear

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_Jammu_massacres

 

[IMMY69]

So it was a Hindu who started the massacre yet the Indians here paint a very different picture

 

[xbronze]

Dear oh dear

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_Jammu_massacres

Nice to see that wikipedia is back in favor with our Pakistani friends Guess it may no longer be 'run by Indians', as it is when it is quoted by Indian PP forum members.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Good article on the love for Nazism by Hindutva fascists.

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/hitlers-hindus-indias-nazi-loving-nationalists-on-the-rise-1.5628532

 

[Technics 1210]

Good article on the love for Nazism by Hindutva fascists.

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/hitlers-hindus-indias-nazi-loving-nationalists-on-the-rise-1.5628532

Saffron Terrorism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terror

 

[anand99]

Hindutva ideology respect Nazi ideology, check the founders of your Hindutva faith and you will see. So IK is once agiain spot on.

Irrespective of all that, the action in Kashmir is supported by majority of indians and not all of them are raving hindutvas. You probably will never get this because you have never been to India and are just a British Pakistani dude who is probably completely out of touch with south Asia and never set foot inside India. Most indians could care less about hindutvas and their ideology but most do support ending this nonsense with Kashmir and appreciate someone finally have the balls to do something to change the status quo. And it has nothing to do with religion.

 

[IMMY69]

Irrespective of all that, the action in Kashmir is supported by majority of indians and not all of them are raving hindutvas. You probably will never get this because you have never been to India and are just a British Pakistani dude who is probably completely out of touch with south Asia and never set foot inside India. Most indians could care less about hindutvas and their ideology but most do support ending this nonsense with Kashmir and appreciate someone finally have the balls to do something to change the status quo. And it has nothing to do with religion.

This is what your hindutva fascist government has done.
You’re all brainwashed.

 

[AdamM97]

Question: Any idea if General Bajwa has plans to scrap the current Pakistan constitution like many Pak generals before him, and replace it with a new Bajwa Constitution? Or should we wait for him to depose Imran Khan in a coup first? I am asking because the widespread resentment in Pakistan over the Imran Khan govt's inaction over 370 dissolution by Modi, may just be the situation that Gen Bajwa needs to plot a coup.

[Unrelated point: I personally consider Gen. Bajwa a very efficient and strategic thinker, who has largely been under-estimated by the Pakistani press which used to be so overawed by Gen. Raheel Sharif. Gen. Bajwa, in my opinion is the best Army Chief Pakistan has had in the last 40 years. He has quietly guided Imran Khan, but has chosen to stay away from the limelight. I dont want to go into some great master strokes he has made. Suffice to say that I would be happy to see him retire later this year. From an Indian perspective, hopefully he does not get an extension, but unfortunately an extension seems very likely]

Nice try

 

[KingKhanWC]

Saffron Terrorism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terror

Modi's hero and crush with Hitler.

 

[slipcatch]

Imran Khan betrays his hatred for Hindus like his predecessors. Pakistan was created on the basis that they cannot live with Hindus.

Hate for Hindu?, no! hate for Hindtuva, a radialized version of Hinduism.And, you are absolutely correct, the way the Muslims of India are still being butchered, I am sure you read and watch about it or do you turn off your TV sent when they show Hindutva butchering minorities?

Today as they see India as a hindu majority country which is doing well, the ingrained hatred comes out.Esp with the realiasation that militarily,diplomatically and economically Pakistan cannot match up.

I know you are trying your best to malign any narrative and point coming out of Pakistan as the hatred for Hindus, the hatred is and will remain for radicalized extremists version of Hindusim and any decent person should also hate it the radicalized extremists version of hinduism, known as Hindutva.

On Military, last time, Tea was fantastic but again, this is again another tactics adapted by Hindutva to divert the discussion to whataboutery and to comparison with their big $$ bills when they are questioned about their beliefs and perverting their religion.

The very existence of a hindu majority nation co existing with minorities is a sight that is revolting for the Pakistan Army and its leaders.
No! again, similar tactics applied, deflecting and presenting made up narrative about minorities, particularly Muslims of India and projecting your beliefs on other to justify your own hate.

A perfect example of spinning the narrative and nothing more.

but let me ask you again, if you consider every kashmiri Muslim terrorist,

 

[anand99]

This is what your hindutva fascist government has done.
You’re all brainwashed.

I wasn't even talking about myself cuz I am not in india

 

[KingKhanWC]

Irrespective of all that, the action in Kashmir is supported by majority of indians and not all of them are raving hindutvas. You probably will never get this because you have never been to India and are just a British Pakistani dude who is probably completely out of touch with south Asia and never set foot inside India. Most indians could care less about hindutvas and their ideology but most do support ending this nonsense with Kashmir and appreciate someone finally have the balls to do something to change the status quo. And it has nothing to do with religion.

You dont need to go to Bombay to find out most Indians are extremists because their views are extreme.

Modi was an RSS short wearing schoolboy and his party are extremists, yet you have elected him twice, this is enough proof. Why do you think this is?

 

[anand99]

You dont need to go to Bombay to find out most Indians are extremists because their views are extreme.

Modi was an RSS short wearing schoolboy and his party are extremists, yet you have elected him twice, this is enough proof. Why do you think this is?

I don't think you are going to get very far with your narrative of labeling an entire country of a billion people as extremists. Just giving you my two cents. It's unlikely most people will take you seriously except others who share your same view point. Carry on with your meltdown though. That's what the forum is for.

 

[IMMY69]

Nice to see that wikipedia is back in favor with our Pakistani friends Guess it may no longer be 'run by Indians', as it is when it is quoted by Indian PP forum members.

Sorry but when did I say it was run by Indians?
Is it?