"Woken up by Azaan in the morning. When will this forced religiousness end in India?" : Sonu Nigam

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"Woken up by Azaan in the morning. When will this forced religiousness end in India?" : Sonu Nigam

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">God bless everyone. I'm not a Muslim and I have to be woken up by the Azaan in the morning. When will this forced religiousness end in India</p>— Sonu Nigam (@sonunigam) <a href="https://twitter.com/sonunigam/status/853758848133242880">April 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[JaDed]

Personally never woke up due to azaan. The only time i heard the early morning one was incase i woke up early to study.

But he is somewhat right about speakers,organized religions should be banned from using speakers and also blocking roads during various festivals time to become China and people need to keep religion only in their homes or religious buildings not outside.

 

[big_gamer007]

The answer to his question is NEVER.. Learn to live with it no point cribbing..

 

[santos11]

Live in a Hindu Dominated Area with no Mosques and no Muslim's.

That's why I would rather live in ahomogeneous area with less conflicts than worrying about sentiments of minorities.

 

[TahirFan]

priyanka chopra says found peace in Azaan

 

[IAJ]

He should be thankful, he is helped getting up early without any alarm clock.

 

[Madplayer]

I would have taken his tweet seriously if he had also talked about the use of loud speakers in jagratas and other night long festivities in which he himself used to sing in before becoming a big singer. Now that he is rich and sophisticated, he has a problem with the Azaan. Or is he saying its okay if he is woken up by bhajans on loud speakers but not by the azaan?

Having said this, i believe the loud speakers in mosques should only be used for azaan and then they should be turned off. What we generally see is that the azaan along with the entire course of namaz, the durood after namaz, the prayers after namaz in which people ask various things from Allah etc , everything which lasts for a good 45 minutes sometimes is made public through the use of loud speakers. Imho this should not be done.

 

[JaDed]

I would have taken his tweet seriously if he had also talked about the use of loud speakers in jagratas and other night long festivities in which he himself used to sing in before becoming a big singer. Now that he is rich and sophisticated, he has a problem with the Azaan. Or is he saying its okay if he is woken up by bhajans on loud speakers but not by the azaan?

Having said this, i believe the loud speakers in mosques should only be used for azaan and then they should be turned off. What we generally see is that the azaan along with the entire course of namaz, the durood after namaz, the prayers after namaz in which people ask various things from Allah etc , everything which lasts for a good 45 minutes sometimes is made public through the use of loud speakers. Imho this should not be done.

That seems to be probably done in your area,in Chennai its just the azaan even in Muslim majority areas.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Only two options. Blanket ban on all loudspeakers at residential areas.
Or just ask people to tolerate and bear it.

According to official data, most of the riots in India are triggered by quarrel over loudspeakers. So I will go with first option, as only danda works in India.

 

[czar]

 

[CricketCartoons]

priyanka chopra says found peace in Azaan

That is her view, doesn't mean everyone must share her views. Obviously there are people who like religious sounds, and some bear it silently, but those who are forced to bear it also have their right to protest.

 

[shaz619]

My friend once joked about it while he was on holiday in India being from an area with a big muslim population, to be honest if you're one of those sensitive sleepers who gets awoken easily from a deep sleep then I can imagine it being pretty annoying Like at times this douche that lives across the street wakes up at 7am to clean his car and puts the radio on pretty loud, woke me up a few times during me holiday

But going by Sonu's tweet it's more to do with his lack of tolerance for minorities much like majority of Indians then his sleep being disturbed, "forced religiousness" what an absolute nutcase!

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Blanket ban on all residential areas for using loudspeaker would be my choice too.

3-4 days back, I wanted to barge into a Ganesh temple and break its loudspeaker for the atrocity they were committing.

They have been notorious in causing ear splitting noise pollution in the past too.

Sonu Nigam does have a point but his comment about temple is nonsense cos while they don't wake up people in the morning, they (some of them) torture us during festivals.

 

[Madplayer]

That seems to be probably done in your area,in Chennai its just the azaan even in Muslim majority areas.

Yes we have that here. Few months back an imam himself tried to convince people that loud speaker should only be used for Azaan. But his request was declined by the people saying they live in the colony themselves and dont have any problem with it.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Blanket ban on all residential areas for using loudspeaker would be my choice too.

3-4 days back, I wanted to barge into a Ganesh temple and break its loudspeaker for the atrocity they were committing.

They have been notorious in causing ear splitting noise pollution in the past too.

Sonu Nigam does have a point but his comment about temple is nonsense cos while they don't wake up people in the morning, they (some of them) torture us during festivals.

No, your comment is nonsense.

Obviously you haven't experienced living near a temple which starts morning aartis on a loudspeaker.

 

[Madplayer]

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Coming across as a tool now. Overdoing it.

 

[JaDed]

Blanket ban on all residential areas for using loudspeaker would be my choice too.

3-4 days back, I wanted to barge into a Ganesh temple and break its loudspeaker for the atrocity they were committing.

They have been notorious in causing ear splitting noise pollution in the past too.

Sonu Nigam does have a point but his comment about temple is nonsense cos while they don't wake up people in the morning, they (some of them) torture us during festivals.

I also hate hose led idols and somehow findthe speakers to be of such bad quality during those religious songs being played.

Although speakers dedicated to MGR songs annoy me the most.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

No, your comment is nonsense.

Obviously you haven't experienced living near a temple which starts morning aartis on a loudspeaker.

Is Sonu Nigam saying temples and gurudwaras do it to wake up people or that he doesn't agree with those doing it?

Cos his tweet is incoherent.

If he said that, my comment still stands cos temples use loudspeakers regardless in other occasions. Its a moot point.

 

[Madplayer]

No, your comment is nonsense.

Obviously you haven't experienced living near a temple which starts morning aartis on a loudspeaker.

Jammu city is known as the city of temples and i can vouch that bhajans on loudspeakers in temples woke me up everyday at 4 in the morning and they didnt stop till the sun was completely out. I lived with it because its the culture of the place although use of loud speakers for such prolonged periods of time should be stopped , be it from people of any religion. I dont have a problem with Azaan because it hardly lasts 3-4 minutes. But after that it should not be allowed which isnt the case here.

 

[JaDed]

One of my friends posted an argument about 'how i don't wantto inhale exhaust from cars and don't have any automobile so when will other people stop driving so that i m not forced to breathe polluted air' fair enough?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Is Sonu Nigam saying temples and gurudwaras do it to wake up people or that he doesn't agree with those doing it?

Cos his tweet is incoherent.

If he said that, my comment still stands cos temples use loudspeakers regardless in other occasions. Its a moot point.

Don't do it....

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I also hate hose led idols and somehow findthe speakers to be of such bad quality during those religious songs being played.

Although speakers dedicated to MGR songs annoy me the most.

haha....want to break those speakers.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Is Sonu Nigam saying temples and gurudwaras do it to wake up people or that he doesn't agree with those doing it?

Cos his tweet is incoherent.

If he said that, my comment still stands cos temples use loudspeakers regardless in other occasions. Its a moot point.

You are lacking comprehension.

he said temples and gurudwaras waking up people who dont follow the religion. The aim of the the temple is different, people getting woken up is the end result. He has a problem with that.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

You are lacking comprehension.

he said temples and gurudwaras waking up people who dont follow the religion. The aim of the the temple is different, people getting woken up is the end result. He has a problem with that.

Whatever.

This post of yours isn't clear.

Now don't waste my time quoting me like you usually do to argue some irrelevant point.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

When he wakes up (with a hangover perhaps) I wonder if he goes down the "my twitter was hacked" route?

Also, if he's moaning about "forced religiousness" then there's a lot more to talk about than just the azaan.

 

[TahirFan]

Cape Town is surrounded by mountains hearing the sound of the Azaan is echoed. It's almost like there is a spiritual awakening in the city. Nobody has objected to this call to prayer, be it Christians,jews,hindus or atheists

 

[CricketCartoons]

Jammu city is known as the city of temples and i can vouch that bhajans on loudspeakers in temples woke me up everyday at 4 in the morning and they didnt stop till the sun was completely out. I lived with it because its the culture of the place although use of loud speakers for such prolonged periods of time should be stopped , be it from people of any religion. I dont have a problem with Azaan because it hardly lasts 3-4 minutes. But after that it should not be allowed which isnt the case here.

Obviously you belong to the section which will silently bear slight inconvenience. But we should not impose this behaviour as the expected or the right one. People who get disturbed have a valid grievance and it should be heard. It is not a hindu muslim problem (although anything can turn into a hindu muslim problem). Loudspeakers would have been banned if we had law and order in this country, and it wouldnt become an ego issue for hindus or muslims, as both would have to abide by it. and no one could cry victim that why dont you go and start this ban with "them" become banning "our" loudspeakers.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Whatever.

This post of yours isn't clear.

Now don't waste my time quoting me like you usually do to argue some irrelevant point.

I suggest you go and read his tweet again. Read it a few more times and then you might understand my post.

The only person wasting the time is me, but I don't mind educating people out of my free time.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Cape Town is surrounded by mountains hearing the sound of the Azaan is echoed. It's almost like there is a spiritual awakening in the city. Nobody has objected to this call to prayer, be it Christians,jews,hindus or atheists

No body has objected doesn't mean no body shouldn't object, and if someone objects, he is shown the example of those who don't object.

 

[Yossarian]

Whenever I've purchased/moved to a new house, I've first checked out the area at different times of the day:
* At peak rush times
* At morning/afternoon school times,
* In the evening (especially if in the vicinity of pubs/ clubs / theatres).
* I even rejected one very nice house at a fantastic price because it was less than a quarter of a mile from a Premiership club football stadium, and on match days the surrounding residential streets became a nightmare for driving in/out of your driveway, parking or driving through.

Point being, if the mosque was already there before the house was purchased / you moved into the property, then you just have to accept it. However, if the reverse was the case, then one may have a point.

 

[big_gamer007]

Cape Town is surrounded by mountains hearing the sound of the Azaan is echoed. It's almost like there is a spiritual awakening in the city. Nobody has objected to this call to prayer, be it Christians,jews,hindus or atheists

How does it matter if anyone in cape town or anywhere in the world objects to it or not? Sonu Nigam lives in a residential area and in residential area loud speakers should be banned is what Sonu Nigam thinks.. However in a country like India it is not feasible during Ganesh Chathurthi thousands of people with DJ's and loud music go throughout the day for the visarjan some people might not like that noise pollution.. Sonu Nigam just needs to learn to live with it, it's not a big deal..

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I suggest you go and read his tweet again. Read it a few more times and then you might understand my post.

The only person wasting the time is me, but I don't mind educating people out of my free time.

Meh. Whatever.

You may not mind "educating" others with your infinite free time but I find it a waste of my time when you quote me.

Thanks for your gyaan.

But no thanks.

 

[CricketCartoons]

The only time I liked the sound of azaan was when I was in US and heard it, because for a few minutes, it made me feel that I was back at home.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Meh. Whatever.

You may not mind "educating" others with your infinite free time but I find it a waste of my time when you quote me.

Thanks for your gyaan.

But no thanks.

I think Sonu Nigam should learn a thing or two from Modi, who paused his speech for few minutes to honor the azaan.

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[big_gamer007]

Blanket ban on all residential areas for using loudspeaker would be my choice too.

3-4 days back, I wanted to barge into a Ganesh temple and break its loudspeaker for the atrocity they were committing.

They have been notorious in causing ear splitting noise pollution in the past too.

Sonu Nigam does have a point but his comment about temple is nonsense cos while they don't wake up people in the morning, they (some of them) torture us during festivals.

It's not possible to ban religious stuff in India mate.. Especially in current environment.. They haven't been able to ban Diwali crackers how would you expect them to ban loudspeakers, jagratas, DJ's, huge traffic jam caused to due to kanwariyas etc.. This is how it is in India gotta learn to live with it..

 

[TahirFan]

Whether it's the Azaan, Christian christmas carols or the Hindu Om Namo Bhagavate it does not matter to me. They are beautiful, and they all have a common goal and that it to attune to God consciousness

I am a practising muslim but I live opposite a church and I attend church during Christmas for the sake of those Carols. I love the hindu Om Namo Bhagavate , it brings tears to me eyes as does the Azaan

How can anyone tell me that he does not enjoy listening to this Azaan

 

[CricketCartoons]

It's not possible to ban religious stuff in India mate.. Especially in current environment.. They haven't been able to ban Diwali crackers how would you expect them to ban loudspeakers, jagratas, DJ's, huge traffic jam caused to due to kanwariyas etc.. This is how it is in India gotta learn to live with it..

Exactly. This is just a minor inconvenience, and celebrities should act more responsible and not hurt religious sentiments. It doesnt help if he brought other religions to make him look balanced.

Especially ironic coming from a person who made a career singing devotional songs, and initially made a name as Mohammad Rafi's clone.

When we have so many issues, the complain of getting woken up in the morning seems manufactured. And if he really had an issue, he should have gone to the police instead of instigating a controversy on twitter.

Really stupid of Sonu Nigam.

 

[Zak_Fan]

It's not possible to ban religious stuff in India mate.. Especially in current environment.. They haven't been able to ban Diwali crackers how would you expect them to ban loudspeakers, jagratas, DJ's, huge traffic jam caused to due to kanwariyas etc.. This is how it is in India gotta learn to live with it..

Those things happen once a year, Azaan is a daily problem. Won't alarm clocks serve the same purpose Azaans do?

 

[big_gamer007]

Those things happen once a year, Azaan is a daily problem. Won't alarm clocks serve the same purpose Azaans do?

Mate I have no idea what Azaan is for but I am assuming it is something religious.. It doesn't matter if those things are once a year or everyday if you make a law it shouldn't be based on the fact of how often something happens, if you want to ban something then ban it totally irrespective of which religion uses it how often you can't be selective in making laws..

Point I was making is simple in current Indian environment you can't expect to have a ban on religious stuff, if Sonu Nigam does not like azaan then there might be 1000 others living in his society who might love azaan.. Just use ear plugs when you sleep and get over with it, posting tweets won't achieve anything but will just start online trolling between 2 religions.. Some low grade news channel will report this news on YouTube, 1 idiot from either side will post something bad against other religion, a sane person will read something bad against his religion and a small hatred against the other religion will be built in his mind ultimately he will also start in such flame wars..

As a celebrity you should be careful in posting stuff about sensitive issues like religion..

 

[JaDed]

Those things happen once a year, Azaan is a daily problem. Won't alarm clocks serve the same purpose Azaans do?

Those things happen every month ,have u not visited Delhi? Jagratas are a common happening and goes for the whole night.

Also im not sure how Azaan works as an alarm clock,never woke me up all those years eventhough my home was pretty neargo the mosque.

Either their should be blanket ban or no ban at all but as the posts have said above it cannot be banned in India,those dandiya dance in outdoors,Ganesh idols being carried to sea,or multiple religious things like those will always be inconvenience to certain sections of society.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Mate I have no idea what Azaan is for but I am assuming it is something religious.. It doesn't matter if those things are once a year or everyday if you make a law it shouldn't be based on the fact of how often something happens, if you want to ban something then ban it totally irrespective of which religion uses it how often you can't be selective in making laws..

Point I was making is simple in current Indian environment you can't expect to have a ban on religious stuff, if Sonu Nigam does not like azaan then there might be 1000 others living in his society who might love azaan.. Just use ear plugs when you sleep and get over with it, posting tweets won't achieve anything but will just start online trolling between 2 religions.. Some low grade news channel will report this news on YouTube, 1 idiot from either side will post something bad against other religion, a sane person will read something bad against his religion and a small hatred against the other religion will be built in his mind ultimately he will also start in such flame wars..

As a celebrity you should be careful in posting stuff about sensitive issues like religion..

Keeping in mind the growing religious insecurities in the nation, I guess you are right. Earplugs sound like the way to go.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I think all loudspeakers should be banned. Whether it's for azaan or whatever else. Your right to practise your religion shouldn't disturb my right to a decent night's sleep. It's terribly annoying waking up to that at 5 in the morning

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

It's not possible to ban religious stuff in India mate.. Especially in current environment.. They haven't been able to ban Diwali crackers how would you expect them to ban loudspeakers, jagratas, DJ's, huge traffic jam caused to due to kanwariyas etc.. This is how it is in India gotta learn to live with it..

While you are right about this leading to so many other questions, there is more to this situation.

This is not a religious issue alone.

Every single Indian suffers from loudspeakers being used in

Hindu festivals AND special occasions
Azaan
Political rallies
Marriage events
Song shows
Advertisements in moving autos (I ain't kidding you)
And what not

Banning loudspeakers in residential areas (except for usage in emergencies by authorities) solves a ton of problems for citizens. Sure there will be big debates, press articles, social media videos and what not but what will happen after a year or two....people will accept it as the status quo. Chalta hai. But in this case, its good for all.

No one gets extra preference. If Mosques can't play azaan, the temples can't play blaring songs in loudspeakers and most importantly, ridiculous song shows and political speeches can't happen in residential areas.

5-10 years down the line, the same people who had been against it could be the ones saying such a move was a great one cos it solved a TON of problems.

As for the Diwali issue, sure people will raise that. Ideally it would be a cherry on the cake if one can even ban usage of Diwali bombs along with this rule but even if they don't, this loudspeaker ban is a fair rule cos it doesn't discriminate.

As a nation, moving forward and making laws that will improve the quality of life of all citizens (including those who don't believe in God and/or hate such sounds) is a good thing. We can't be having the crabs in a box mentality where everyone of us keeps pulling down each other because things are the best the way they are.

 

[CricketCartoons]

While you are right about this leading to so many other questions, there is more to this situation.

This is not a religious issue alone.

Every single Indian suffers from loudspeakers being used in

Hindu festivals AND special occasions
Azaan
Political rallies
Marriage events
Song shows
Advertisements in moving autos (I ain't kidding you)
And what not

Banning loudspeakers in residential areas (except for usage in emergencies by authorities) solves a ton of problems for citizens. Sure there will be big debates, press articles, social media videos and what not but what will happen after a year or two....people will accept it as the status quo. Chalta hai. But in this case, its good for all.

No one gets extra preference. If Mosques can't play azaan, the temples can't play blaring songs in loudspeakers and most importantly, ridiculous song shows and political speeches can't happen in residential areas.

5-10 years down the line, the same people who had been against it could be the ones saying such a move was a great one cos it solved a TON of problems.

As for the Diwali issue, sure people will raise that. Ideally it would be a cherry on the cake if one can even ban usage of Diwali bombs along with this rule but even if they don't, this loudspeaker ban is a fair rule cos it doesn't discriminate.

As a nation, moving forward and making laws that will improve the quality of life of all citizens (including those who don't believe in God and/or hate such sounds) is a good thing. We can't be having the crabs in a box mentality where everyone of us keeps pulling down each other because things are the best the way they are.

How do we know that every single indian suffers from loudspeakers use? Of course that was hyperbole from your side, and you meant most Indians. But laws cannot be made just because sonu nigam and a few people are complaining. If most people are suffering let them come out and complain. Few people living in their air conditioned rooms cannot decide what most indians are suffering from.

Secondly, India is a community driven country. Loudspeakers add to the celebration. If some people cannot even bear it on special days, guess they don't know what India is all about. Ours is a country based on acceptance and mutual respect for all.

Thirdly, the concept of residential areas and commercial areas is not followed in most parts of the country. Temples and Mosques are in residential areas. You can't have mosques and temples far away from homes so that people will have to walk a kilometer or two just to practice their faith.

And LOL at the ban being fair because it does not discriminate based on religion. Such a naive and simplistic understanding of what is fair that the mind boggles at the sheer stupidity!

Those who have a problem with people practicing their faith the way they want, put up or shut up. Because this is India, and it aint going to change because some sonu nigams and buffoons need extra sleep to complete their hangover.

 

[Syed1]

Islam does not require Muslims to give Azaan when living in non-Muslim countries

 

[kabbirann]

The religious and their love of loudspeakers.
Remember listening to this weird mixture of train sounds,azaan and temple bells in early morning Bhopal.
Also remember complaining to the police during my exams against besuri colony aunties during navratra as they"sang" through the night.
Also remember the noise and ostentation of Sisganj Gurudwara and the peace and simplicity of the small masjid next to it.
If anything,Islam probably is less noisy than the other Indian religions.

 

[Specialisttailender]

I also hate hose led idols and somehow findthe speakers to be of such bad quality during those religious songs being played.

Although speakers dedicated to MGR songs annoy me the most.

Wait till you hear Jaya's songs during her anniversary.

 

[JaDed]

Wait till you hear Jaya's songs during her anniversary.

Heard already but nothing beats this:

http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/tn-bypolls-just-got-disgusting-ops-camp-parades-fake-jaya-body-and-coffin-campaign-59950

 

[big_gamer007]

While you are right about this leading to so many other questions, there is more to this situation.

This is not a religious issue alone.

Every single Indian suffers from loudspeakers being used in

Hindu festivals AND special occasions
Azaan
Political rallies
Marriage events
Song shows
Advertisements in moving autos (I ain't kidding you)
And what not

Banning loudspeakers in residential areas (except for usage in emergencies by authorities) solves a ton of problems for citizens. Sure there will be big debates, press articles, social media videos and what not but what will happen after a year or two....people will accept it as the status quo. Chalta hai. But in this case, its good for all.

No one gets extra preference. If Mosques can't play azaan, the temples can't play blaring songs in loudspeakers and most importantly, ridiculous song shows and political speeches can't happen in residential areas.

5-10 years down the line, the same people who had been against it could be the ones saying such a move was a great one cos it solved a TON of problems.

As for the Diwali issue, sure people will raise that. Ideally it would be a cherry on the cake if one can even ban usage of Diwali bombs along with this rule but even if they don't, this loudspeaker ban is a fair rule cos it doesn't discriminate.

As a nation, moving forward and making laws that will improve the quality of life of all citizens (including those who don't believe in God and/or hate such sounds) is a good thing. We can't be having the crabs in a box mentality where everyone of us keeps pulling down each other because things are the best the way they are.

I agree with everything you said which is how we SHOULD be as a society IMO... However me and you are in minority and the post CricketCartoon made minus his snide personal remarks is the truth about how Indian society is.. Just because you and me care about air pollution or noise pollution and find these religious stuff annoying doesn't mean the majority feels the same ways.. These sort of celebrations are part of the Indian culture which will take time to go away..

That is why I said in first post people need to learn to live with it.. If it really annoys you that much then you should be bold enough to take a stand against the majority by filing case in courts/complaining to police etc etc and risk getting trashed/maybe killed by religious fanatics..

 

[troodon]

Ban all these loud speakers, processions. Nothing but sound pollution. Azan/Aartis/Church Bells.... Please ban all of them. Keep religion between 4 walls.

Why would a Muslim want to hear your Aartis or why does a non-Muslim want to hear your call for prayers?

But nothing will happen. Its India.

 

[Specialisttailender]

Heard already but nothing beats this:

http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/tn-bypolls-just-got-disgusting-ops-camp-parades-fake-jaya-body-and-coffin-campaign-59950

No wonder Jaya appointed OPS as the substitute CM when she was in Jail, she knew he wasn't smart enough to form his own empire after the side. By next election people will probably forget OPS and DMK will come into power and make it worse for another 20 years as we have the memory of Gold Fish. This is a good time for a 3rd party to come into play and change the history of Tamil Nadu or at least put enough pressure for the two big parties to actually start doing good things for the people. DMDK is not that 3rd party anymore, it has become a total joke and Vijaykanth started behaving more like a goon than the man he appeared on screens after becoming the opposition. But knowing how politics work, it's the educated people that decide elections, everyone else vote for the same party that their family has been voting for generations and there is no way a newer party can come through for another 10-15 years. A final nail in the coffin has been hammered for BJP and Congress but may get popular vote in Chennai due to immigrating IT workers. I see a lot of change among youngsters and their desire to influence politics. It used to be Arts and law students that cared about politics now almost all of my school friends are very interested in politics. Apparently political and social responsibility is a new trend. The way things are going the 3rd big party will be either be OPS-PMK-MDMK Alliance(if it happens) or NTK. By the looks of it, NTK will be the 3rd biggest party if OPS doesn't start a new party. Will not threaten ruling position for another 10 to 15 years. DMk and ADMK are set for another decade or so.

 

[JaDed]

No wonder Jaya appointed OPS as the substitute CM when she was in Jail, she knew he wasn't smart enough to form his own empire after the side. By next election people will probably forget OPS and DMK will come into power and make it worse for another 20 years as we have the memory of Gold Fish. This is a good time for a 3rd party to come into play and change the history of Tamil Nadu or at least put enough pressure for the two big parties to actually start doing good things for the people. DMDK is not that 3rd party anymore, it has become a total joke and Vijaykanth started behaving more like a goon than the man he appeared on screens after becoming the opposition. But knowing how politics work, it's the educated people that decide elections, everyone else vote for the same party that their family has been voting for generations and there is no way a newer party can come through for another 10-15 years. A final nail in the coffin has been hammered for BJP and Congress but may get popular vote in Chennai due to immigrating IT workers. I see a lot of change among youngsters and their desire to influence politics. It used to be Arts and law students that cared about politics now almost all of my school friends are very interested in politics. Apparently political and social responsibility is a new trend. The way things are going the 3rd big party will be either be OPS-PMK-MDMK Alliance(if it happens) or NTK. By the looks of it, NTK will be the 3rd biggest party if OPS doesn't start a new party. Will not threaten ruling position for another 10 to 15 years. DMk and ADMK are set for another decade or so.

NTK and its supporters are a threat to non-tamilians like me in Chennai,would probably shift incase they come to power on their own,no way am i ok with Seeman becoming the CM.

Right now there is a well crafted anti-BJP wave in TN where every issue is being blamed on the center and "Tamizhan" this that is being propagated along with anti-corporate agenda glad atleast certain section of society are able to see through it.

Personally i don't mind DMK ,PMK but no way am i ok with NTK coming to power.

 

[sshakir411]

lol, get a new house buddy. Quit crying, no one like to hear you sing now too.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I think Sonu Nigam should learn a thing or two from Modi, who paused his speech for few minutes to honor the azaan.

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Sonu Nigam tried his luck in acting but failed miserably.

 

[Third Man]

Sonu Nigam tried his luck in acting but failed miserably.

Lol. Politicians are mostly very good actors.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Sonu Nigam tried his luck in acting but failed miserably.

Tolerance is all about acting. You tolerate, but act that it is not a big deal and you really have respect for the other.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

................

Obviously you haven't experienced living near a temple which starts morning aartis on a loudspeaker.

I once stayed at a government guest house in India which (I realized later) was right next to a mosque and a temple.

Daily I was blasted into wakefulness at 5 am (or was it even earlier) to the sound of azan. Some time later, as I drifted thankfully back into sleep, the temple would start blaring aartis.

It was competition pure and simple and an all round nuisance as far as I was concerned.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Shouldn't he be complaining to his ancestors who allowed Muslims to enter and rule for many years?

He's a bit late to the party

 

[Syed1]

Shouldn't he be complaining to his ancestors who allowed Muslims to enter and rule for many years?

He's a bit late to the party

Considering how 'unbiased' you are on this matter, I'm sure you won't mind if church bells start ringing at 5am while you live in non-Muslim UK.

 

[Saeed]

Why did he say Azaan but not Ajaan? This makes me suspicious about the real motive behind this tweet.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Considering how 'unbiased' you are on this matter, I'm sure you won't mind if church bells start ringing at 5am while you live in non-Muslim UK.

I actually live near a Church which has very loud bells, being a very old church. It doesn't bother me at all because I know this is nothing new and has been going for centuries. If it did bother me, I'd move away not moan about it on twitter. Noise pollution in India is nothing new either.

 

[kaayal]

Hard to believe a man like Sonu Nigam sleeping in his ac room with all the windows closed would wake up hearing to Azaan. I wish i could wake up that early atleast once in a while..

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I agree with everything you said which is how we SHOULD be as a society IMO... However me and you are in minority and the post CricketCartoon made minus his snide personal remarks is the truth about how Indian society is.. Just because you and me care about air pollution or noise pollution and find these religious stuff annoying doesn't mean the majority feels the same ways.. These sort of celebrations are part of the Indian culture which will take time to go away..

That is why I said in first post people need to learn to live with it.. If it really annoys you that much then you should be bold enough to take a stand against the majority by filing case in courts/complaining to police etc etc and risk getting trashed/maybe killed by religious fanatics..

Of course, everyone lives with it (even if they don't like it). But that doesn't mean they can't talk about it or raise issues. Things never go from being calm to full on protests/rioting. It takes different stages.

Also the issue here is that of practicality?

I fully agree. It's not an easy thing to do in today's climate but don't see this as such an insurmountable task that we can't even entertain the thought of it today. There is hidden anger about this with the masses. While people get to be ok with the events of their religion, they also have to tolerate the noise when festivals of other religion occur...not to mention other non-religious instances where loudspeakers are used.

Also removal of loudspeakers don't mean we are banning celebration of religious events. We are just removing one entity. It may not be the same without loudspeakers but the events will go on. Also when a law is passed, people eventually learn to manage. Every major thing in our history has had people divided.

Anyways, apart from practicality, desire of lawmakers and implementation are problems too.

 

[90MPH]

Im actually shocked he would tweet this.

A lunatic like Abhijeet you would expect but Sonu I thought was a sensible liberal minded person.

He's a well known liked entertainment figure so he shouldn't have just singled Islam in his first tweet. And yes he's allowed to have an opinion but in a diverse country like India he should have thought first before singling out 1 community. He should keep such opinions to himself otherwise someone like him Will only give ammunition to extremists.

 

[troodon]

I actually live near a Church which has very loud bells, being a very old church. It doesn't bother me at all because I know this is nothing new and has been going for centuries. If it did bother me, I'd move away not moan about it on twitter. Noise pollution in India is nothing new either.

Mosques are everywhere. You can pretty much hear them where ever you are.

Most get used to it. Some who have trouble falling asleep or stay asleep will be surely pestered by these prayer calls.

Sonu Nigam has a great point. If you are religious, put a darn alarm and wake up. Why bother others?

 

[90MPH]

Mosques are everywhere. You can pretty much hear them where ever you are.

Most get used to it. Some who have trouble falling asleep or stay asleep will be surely pestered by these prayer calls.

Sonu Nigam has a great point. If you are religious, put a darn alarm and wake up. Why bother others?

Maybe because maybe as cricket cartoons says India is multi faith country that has to cater to everyones needs. You are not a country like France where securalims prevails and religion doesn't wade much power.

Maybe in the future if the country becomes less religious then sure you can start declining the use of religious speakers but that hasn't happened.

Even if Sonu gets frustrated by Such speakers he should have kept those frustrations to himself because such a public celebrity singling out 1 religion will only cause division in such a county.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Of course, everyone lives with it (even if they don't like it). But that doesn't mean they can't talk about it or raise issues. Things never go from being calm to full on protests/rioting. It takes different stages.

Also the issue here is that of practicality?

I fully agree. It's not an easy thing to do in today's climate but don't see this as such an insurmountable task that we can't even entertain the thought of it today. There is hidden anger about this with the masses. While people get to be ok with the events of their religion, they also have to tolerate the noise when festivals of other religion occur...not to mention other non-religious instances where loudspeakers are used.

Also removal of loudspeakers don't mean we are banning celebration of religious events. We are just removing one entity. It may not be the same without loudspeakers but the events will go on. Also when a law is passed, people eventually learn to manage. Every major thing in our history has had people divided.

Anyways, apart from practicality, desire of lawmakers and implementation are problems too.

Bro, this is a draconian law you are advocating. These are the kinds of thoughts which are going to burn India. Even if azaan causes noise, it is the least noise producing event as it is a male voice chanting verses in arabic for a few minutes, without any musical instruments. Much much lower on the scale of noise compared to what people of other religions do. And obviously you are smart enough to know why this issue is being raised. Under the garb of noice pollution and all that, it is a dig at a particular community.

 

[kaayal]

So when we are at it, let's ban the saptah poojas, that morning cassete that plays in every temple and also the church bells....We can survive even without the azaan.

 

[TahirFan]

Maybe Sonu Nigam should listen to the Azaan performed by Mai Kamal

 

[troodon]

So when we are at it, let's ban the saptah poojas, that morning cassete that plays in every temple and also the church bells....We can survive even without the azaan.

Perfect.

All public processions, Aartis, Azaans, loud bells should be banned.

If you are religious, do all your religous duties between 4 walls of a building. The world does not need to know that such and such religious rituals, pujas and prayers are happening.

All these loud speakers do is incite hatred when rivals compete, try to out do each other and increase the decibels of their prayer.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Mosques are everywhere. You can pretty much hear them where ever you are.

Most get used to it. Some who have trouble falling asleep or stay asleep will be surely pestered by these prayer calls.

Sonu Nigam has a great point. If you are religious, put a darn alarm and wake up. Why bother others?

As I said he's a few centuries late to the party. The Hindu rulers didn't mind when the Muslims came to say hello. Since then the call to prayer has been the norm in India, why are you and this singer complaining about it now?

 

[Thomaskutty]

Ban everything but church bells .. it doesn't have the shrill , eardrum perforating mayhem of a loudspeaker and its done only on weekends, for the sunday mass.

 

[CricketCartoons]

So when we are at it, let's ban the saptah poojas, that morning cassete that plays in every temple and also the church bells....We can survive even without the azaan.

And this is the reaction these pot stirring celebrities and their supporters who hide behind a blanket ban want.

 

[troodon]

As I said he's a few centuries late to the party. The Hindu rulers didn't mind when the Muslims came to say hello. Since then the call to prayer has been the norm in India, why are you and this singer complaining about it now?

Just because it was allowed in the past does not mean it should be allowed forever. Thats ridiculous logic.

India is a secular nation and no one should get special treatment. All are equal (at least as per constitution). If India are to progress, people need to stop showing how religious they are in public. Do it at home and no one bothers.

Why should I listen to Azaans or Aartis or Church songs when I am not interested? Old people, sick people and poor animals get tortured from these.

 

[kaayal]

And this is the reaction these pot stirring celebrities and their supporters who hide behind a blanket ban want.

As if anything is left behind for us.....slowly they will creep on to everything that is muslim.

 

[CricketCartoons]

As if anything is left behind for us.....slowly they will creep on to everything that is muslim.

You very well know why it is happening. If BJP has to maintain power, it has to divide people along religious lines. They are using mainly 5 topics.

1. Babri Masjid

2. Beef Ban

3. Triple Talaq/UCC

4. Vande Mataram

5. Haj Subsidy

If muslims protest against BJP, they make it look like Muslims are protesting against Hindus.
The more muslims criticize BJP, the stronger it gets. Because the leaders from Muslim community are not good, like Owaisi and Azam Khan. It is those non muslim leaders fighting for muslim rights who are making the right kind of noise.

What should Muslims do when they feel that their identity is under threat?

I think Muslims should call their bluff, that will take the wind out of BJP. And relax. There are enough people to stand up for Muslim rights. Don't get swayed by the hatred on social media. Just don't play into their hands.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I actually live near a Church which has very loud bells, being a very old church. It doesn't bother me at all because I know this is nothing new and has been going for centuries. If it did bother me, I'd move away not moan about it on twitter. Noise pollution in India is nothing new either.

I live across the road from a church, I've mentioned this before. Every Sunday at 9am they clang merrily for about 5 mins. This doesn't bother me because I am usually up by then, but my better half complains royally as she likes to sleep in on a Sunday. I don't really have any sympathy for her to be honest. I prefer the sound of the church bells to her complaining. I like living in a part of England which is close to it's heritage.

 

[kaayal]

You very well know why it is happening. If BJP has to maintain power, it has to divide people along religious lines. They are using mainly 5 topics.

1. Babri Masjid

2. Beef Ban

3. Triple Talaq/UCC

4. Vande Mataram

5. Haj Subsidy

If muslims protest against BJP, they make it look like Muslims are protesting against Hindus.
The more muslims criticize BJP, the stronger it gets. Because the leaders from Muslim community are not good, like Owaisi and Azam Khan. It is those non muslim leaders fighting for muslim rights who are making the right kind of noise.

What should Muslims do when they feel that their identity is under threat?

I think Muslims should call their bluff, that will take the wind out of BJP. And relax. There are enough people to stand up for Muslim rights. Don't get swayed by the hatred on social media. Just don't play into their hands.

Actually i am still a left supporter and voted for the same against the Muslim league in the recent byelection in our constituency. I have belief in my non muslim malayalis who will definitily stand up for us in need. But can't say the same about rest of India.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Sona Nigam has really took up that mantle with his beef against the azan

I'm sure there is real angst at the crux of his concerns and this will only help divide partisanship even more

 

[Specialisttailender]

NTK and its supporters are a threat to non-tamilians like me in Chennai,would probably shift incase they come to power on their own,no way am i ok with Seeman becoming the CM.

Right now there is a well crafted anti-BJP wave in TN where every issue is being blamed on the center and "Tamizhan" this that is being propagated along with anti-corporate agenda glad atleast certain section of society are able to see through it.

Personally i don't mind DMK ,PMK but no way am i ok with NTK coming to power.

Don't worry that is not going to happen bro ). Apart from youth wings, his party probably has the most educated members, I doubt they will let it happen. What is your ancestry ? I remember Seeman starting spree of pure stupidity all of a sudden and he has come out of that since then. According to my friend he was cursed or something but I let you make up your own judgement for that ). Awkwardly this comes from a friend who has traces back to Andhra/Telugana. Not sure how people with Telugu ancestry like Vaiko, Vijaykant and Hip Hop Tamizha (Adhi) grow love for Tamil.

Anti-Congress was a thing when I was there and there was less hate for BJP. New "Tamizhan" nationalism wave was expected to happen with center not giving enough importance to Tamil Nadu. You can't blame center either they can't break into Tamil Nadu during elections while they have large support in other near by states surrounding Tamil Nadu so they will always favour other states over us. There is a sense of new love for language in Karnataka,Telegana and Kerala as well. Some say this has to do with rise in influx of new comers from other states that wasn't there long time ago.

I see NTK coming down the years and there is more possibility than any other party except OPS-PMK-Vaiko alliance.