Would PCB have been the second richest board today if it benefited from hosting India Pakistan bilateral series at home from 2009 to today?

[Savak]

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According to this article in 2023 the net worth of BCCI is $2.25 billion

However the net worth of Cricket Australia is $79 million, ECB is $59 million and PCB stood at $55 million.

Please note that Cricket Australia, ECB and other cricket boards benefit from hosting India at home which is considered a significant cash infusion for these boards and these boards have also benefited from hosting ICC events at home.

PCB stands at number 4 at $55 million inspite of not having hosted India at home since 2008 and by all independent TV reports, the PCB has lost the opportunity to earn $1 billion plus as a result of India's boycott.

Would PCB's position have been at number 2 if it benefited like other boards from frequently hosting India at home for test series, ODI and T-20 series from 2008 onwards to today?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Pakistan did lost a lucrative revenue sum because of it but likewise India also missed the big bonus chunk owing to this. But still BCCI and PCB are contended with what they have and that is the big tragedy. PCB just half heartedly go ahead with such proposals

 

[Major]

Pakistan did lost a lucrative revenue sum because of it but likewise India also missed the big bonus chunk owing to this. But still BCCI and PCB are contended with what they have and that is the big tragedy. PCB just half heartedly go ahead with such proposals

in b 4 all the indian posters wannabe lawyers of BCCI start denying this by giving us some made up numbers

 

[JaDed]

in b 4 all the indian posters wannabe lawyers of BCCI start denying this by giving us some made up numbers

Who needs the chunk more? Pakistan has a higher population they need the revenue more.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Two most important factors that have lead to PCB not being able to achieve the kind of revenues as it potentially can.

#1 is Pakistan economy’s inability to back its most famous sport just enough that its cricket board can independently generate great revenues without depending on Bharat and ICC. Sometimes a lot of success is purely by fluke and luck too. It’s not that people who work at BCCI are so much more intelligent, they must be, but at the end of the day it is the strong Bharatiya economy which is helping make BCCI all this money. The market is there to capture and they have just been able to extract the true potential of it thanks to the sponsors.


Secondly, We all have to acknowledge that Mumbai 26/11 terrorist attacks was a major event that has impacted the modern day South East Asian politics and has had a detrimental impact on cricket relationships between Bharat and Pakistan. As incompetent and delusional the PCB administrators have been over the years, they would have still continued to make billions from cricket if they were not at receiving end of the anger of Bharatiya people due to the events that happened in Mumbai. The lack of support from Pakistan government in bringing the perpetrators to justice did not help PCB. The PCB and the fans might have thought the emotions will be gone in some years but that’s not true, it’s been 1 and a half decade and Bharatiya people have not gotten over that incident and probably won’t for years to come meaning point #1 becomes way more crucial.

 

[dravidthewall]

Yes Pakistan will be in 2 nd rank interms of money had they played with india since 2009.Pakistan only to blame their government, they don't take any strict action on neautalise this terror activities

 

[Josh]

Number one reason is Pakistan's own economy. If economy were any good, PCB would have made much more money anyway. The confidence and the type of players would have been better too. Teams mostly represent their domestic economic situations too. Indian team has gotten better with Indian economy also getting better since 90s

 

[JaDed]

Who needs the chunk more? Pakistan has a higher population they need the revenue more.

Higher population than Aus, Eng*

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Two most important factors that have lead to PCB not being able to achieve the kind of revenues as it potentially can.

#1 is Pakistan economy’s inability to back its most famous sport just enough that its cricket board can independently generate great revenues without depending on Bharat and ICC. Sometimes a lot of success is purely by fluke and luck too. It’s not that people who work at BCCI are so much more intelligent, they must be, but at the end of the day it is the strong Bharatiya economy which is helping make BCCI all this money. The market is there to capture and they have just been able to extract the true potential of it thanks to the sponsors.


Secondly, We all have to acknowledge that Mumbai 26/11 terrorist attacks was a major event that has impacted the modern day South East Asian politics and has had a detrimental impact on cricket relationships between Bharat and Pakistan. As incompetent and delusional the PCB administrators have been over the years, they would have still continued to make billions from cricket if they were not at receiving end of the anger of Bharatiya people due to the events that happened in Mumbai. The lack of support from Pakistan government in bringing the perpetrators to justice did not help PCB. The PCB and the fans might have thought the emotions will be gone in some years but that’s not true, it’s been 1 and a half decade and Bharatiya people have not gotten over that incident and probably won’t for years to come meaning point #1 becomes way more crucial.

Number 1 is correct.

Number 2 is a weird take.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Number 1 is correct.

Number 2 is a weird take.

Some people just need an excuse to parade their politics everywhere

 

[Major]

Who needs the chunk more? Pakistan has a higher population they need the revenue more.

pakistan has a higher population ?

 

[Kianig89]

More than hosting India its the ouster from home for more than decade which has stung PCB.

Nevertheless, knowing the figures dysfunctional draconian PCB holding $55m and the structural centralised ECB at $59m tells us the immense potential cricket has In Pakistan & all is not doomed.

Hopefully work on PSL expansion and securing a lucrative broadcast deal is in pipeline to be more self sufficient.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Some people just need an excuse to parade their politics everywhere

It also makes India look quite bad.

"Your country banged up our countrymen and left tremendous scars so we stopped playing cricket with you in certain occasion"

That's how it comes across and it does a complete disservice to the poor victims.

 

[Sir Alex]

India has moved past relying on international cricket to fund their cricket. Their IPL rights now go at a higher rate than home internationals which tells a story.

And yes they have comfortably moved past Pakistan bilaterals well over a decade back. They have chokeful of cricket all around the year and are actually now being forced to field 2nd or 3rd XIs in some bilateral series like an obligation. Some might view it as arrogant but it is a necessity to protect their top players.

Coming back to Pakistan, did it hurt them by not playing India in bilateral? 100% yes. For starters the revenue base is far too low for Pakistan as compared to India's. So a bilateral would definitely help in raising that.

Secondly it would also have helped broaden the sponsorship pool and hence corporate money. Also more importantly, I believe that Pakistanis are more fixated on Indians than vice versa. The most mediocre of players can guarantee a long run if they manage to do well vs India. You don't see that in case of India (or otherwise Venkatesh Orasad would have played a hundred tests lol). But such fixation can help in inspiring young people to watch and motivate them to take up the sport seeing the adulation and benefits that accrue. Currently the youngsters are seeing Pakistan's first choice XI playing utterly meaningless bilaterals vs a NZ C team hurriedly put together while their top players are busy in the IPL that is happening at the same time. If they had a choice, they'd be switching channels and watching IPL rather than the bilateral series.

Touring Pakistan is more of an obligation even now for the top teams than something they do to prove a point whereas touring India is commercially and career wise aspirational for teams, SENA included. To best India in India is like a holy grail.

However, beating Pakistan in Pakistan seems to have become rather boringly routine for these teams. There is no real challenge. And this has a domino effect. Spectators become depressed and some of them stop watching or following cricket altogether- leading to a drop in viewership- reflect in sponsorships and TV money and ultimately lead to a vicious circle for Pakistani cricket where talents stop turning up.

The way out of this is to re energize Pakistani domestic cricket and the system by depoliticising it. Secondly build izzat by stopping relying on fly by night foreign operators and promoting local talent to supervise and mentor. And be pragmatic and live in today's world - accept India's suzernaity and superiority at the moment - make overtures and not behave like petulant teens but like adults. Open backdoor conversations via political channels with Indian counterparts , make suitable concessions with the long term goal in mind. The last couple of decades have demonstrated that Pakistan will only stand to lose further by trying to play one upmanship with India. It would do well instead to toe a line that Bangladesh is doing decently. Start with baby steps, lobby hard with Indian board to schedule bilaterals in a neutral place (for home tours) and offer to tour India as a sweetener - demonstrating good faith. A couple of tours and Indian Govt will be under pressure to reciprocate. Also work with the Indian Govt to let Pakistani players participate in the IPl auction (an uphill task - but given that for MLC the same owners are happily recruiting Pakistani players, some lobbying by IPl teams might help).

Don't make stupid statements like Ramiz Raja did that does good to nobody. Of course pray to God that things don't go south in terms of border issues. For this the Pak Govt and Army have to work together

In the meantime work diligently to separate politics from cricket administration. A start would be to make it an independent trust and not an arm of the govt. Pass a law to cancel the earlier law that makes it political de jure and de facto. Reconstitute the trust and leadership with a board that has majority of independent directors who have nothing to do with politics. Invite foreign greats to be part of the board.

Let this trickle down to the lower tiers all the way down to junior cricket. Adopt highest standards of fitness and playing standards from the junior levels and make them rigorously merit oriented.

Anyway I digressed slightly but i guess one can't talk about this matter without touching upon the broader issues.

 

[Sir Alex]

It also makes India look quite bad.

"Your country banged up our countrymen and left tremendous scars so we stopped playing cricket with you in certain occasion"

That's how it comes across and it does a complete disservice to the poor victims.

You think making these sort of statements somehow make you feel good but you don't realize that this kind of attitude at the top levels only result in further isolation of your country and cricket in particular.

Of course if you find enjoyment in it, good for you. But it isn't going to make things any better.

Pakistan definitely needs a better class of leadership.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

More than hosting India its the ouster from home for more than decade which has stung PCB.

Nevertheless, knowing the figures dysfunctional draconian PCB holding $55m and the structural centralised ECB at $59m tells us the immense potential cricket has In Pakistan & all is not doomed.

Hopefully work on PSL expansion and securing a lucrative broadcast deal is in pipeline to be more self sufficient.

Its hard to believe that PCB still gave ECB a run for his money even in such dire conditions. Shows the enormous potential for new revenue

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You think making these sort of statements somehow make you feel good but you don't realize that this kind of attitude at the top levels only result in further isolation of your country and cricket in particular.

Of course if you find enjoyment in it, good for you. But it isn't going to make things any better.

Pakistan definitely needs a better class of leadership.

It is a response to a post that considers selectively not playing cricket as a way of allegedly getting back at the alleged perpetrators of a terrorist attack.

Although your post is not much better than @Bhaijaan

Your post is essentially

ICC awards Pakistan a global tournament
India throws it's toys out the pram and holds cricket hostage
Pakistan protests

Your response to Pakistan is "stop being petulant, beg at our feet and we can maybe play in the future"

 

[Kianig89]

Its hard to believe that PCB still gave ECB a run for his money even in such dire conditions. Shows the enormous potential for new revenue

Yes, Zaka was planning for a T10 Cup, if its financially viable then no harm in going for it to get more $$$$

 

[Sir Alex]

It is a response to a post that considers selectively not playing cricket as a way of allegedly getting back at the alleged perpetrators of a terrorist attack.

Although your post is not much better than @Bhaijaan

Your post is essentially

ICC awards Pakistan a global tournament
India throws it's toys out the pram and holds cricket hostage
Pakistan protests

Your response to Pakistan is "stop being petulant, beg at our feet and we can maybe play in the future"

Thanks for providing a post that basically acts as Exhibir A for the behaviour I listed in my original post. Expected- yes, ideal - no. And has no rooting in facts or current situation as they are. Add a bit of unnecessary hostility and it is a classic sundowner of everything that keeps PCB away from being considered a serious and reliable partner by other boards.

 

[Buzzinga]

It also makes India look quite bad.

"Your country banged up our countrymen and left tremendous scars so we stopped playing cricket with you in certain occasion"

That's how it comes across and it does a complete disservice to the poor victims.

Don't agree with your assessment.

I think most appropriate would be - Lets make the PCB coffers as much dry as possible without costing India anything. Why lose those 2 easy points on 'certain occasions' which could jeopardize India's overall chances in the tournament.

BCCI could take the route of complete boycott but then it'll hamper their chances in multi nation tournaments, so why throw the axe on its own feet? There is no moral high ground in this, just economic war, BCCI caters to Indian public and majority of them support this move.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Thanks for providing a post that basically acts as Exhibir A for the behaviour I listed in my original post. Expected- yes, ideal - no. And has no rooting in facts or current situation as they are. Add a bit of unnecessary hostility and it is a classic sundowner of everything that keeps PCB away from being considered a serious and reliable partner by other boards.

I am commenting on the post that said India has stopped playing with Pakistan as a result of MImbai. You seemingly agree with this but now also contend that PCB is also not considered a serious partner by other boards. Are they also retaliating because of the Mumbai attacks?

Your post is nothing but condescension and derision.

The reality is that India is demonstrably the petulant one, it is demonstrably the petulant one and it is demonstrably acting openly against Pakistan cricket.

You can try and dress it up in fancy words and blame Pakistan for not making an effort but it's a plain falsehood.

 

[ElRaja]

no, pcb is politician gravy train, they would have just ended up lining their own pockets.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Don't agree with your assessment.

I think most appropriate would be - Lets make the PCB coffers as much dry as possible without costing India anything. Why lose those 2 easy points on 'certain occasions' which could jeopardize India's overall chances in the tournament.

BCCI could take the route of complete boycott but then it'll hamper their chances in multi nation tournaments, so why throw the axe on its own feet? There is no moral high ground in this, just economic war, BCCI caters to Indian public and majority of them support this move.

That's reasonable. If the Indian public is happy to accept sometimes a boycott of Pakistan and sometimes 2 points in WC as a memorial to Mumbai victims that is their right. I frankly think it's a disrespectful argument but you are free to make it.

I also agree there is no moral high ground. Your take on it which is essentially - we have the money and do one until we need you is probably the way India behaves. I don't have a counter argument to that. Might is right. Pakistan should try and stand on it's own two feet.

 

[Savak]

Am confused where the net worth of Cricket Australia is $79 million and ECB is $59 million, how are they able to pay their national and domestic players better than the PCB and make their domestic cricket financially stand on its feet in comparison to the PCB? Is the PCB intelligently spending its money?

 

[Sir Alex]

I am commenting on the post that said India has stopped playing with Pakistan as a result of MImbai. You seemingly agree with this but now also contend that PCB is also not considered a serious partner by other boards. Are they also retaliating because of the Mumbai attacks?

Your post is nothing but condescension and derision.

The reality is that India is demonstrably the petulant one, it is demonstrably the petulant one and it is demonstrably acting openly against Pakistan cricket.

You can try and dress it up in fancy words and blame Pakistan for not making an effort but it's a plain falsehood.

Please spare us your faux concern.

I never intended to disrespect anyone including you here. If you felt so it is regrettable.

I can understand to some degree why you feel this way. Even if I don't agree to it. And if the top echelons of PCB feel that way - that BCCI is using it's muscle to have its way, and that ICC is powerless to act against it - fine! But what are the next steps ? Merely crying victim about it every day ad infinitum won't help anyone. BCCI for sure is not going to change its approach and that's something pretty much everyone knows. Its a certainty, even if you like or don't like - like global warming, or like the harsh summers. Mere wishing, chest thumping, empty rhetoric and crying victim isn't going to help. People need to take decisive actions. And in this case, it's upto PCB and Pakistan to ACT and ACT now.

From what I see PCB has two crystal clear paths : Cooperate or Conclude

I have already derailed my thoughts about the Cooperation part - one where PCB understands Indian superiority and instead of trying one up-manship makes concessions keeping in mind the long term goal of making Pakistan Cricker Great Again.

The other step is to Conclude all engagements with BCCI and walk out. Given that ICC won't act against BCCI , and if PCB feels that this is injustice meted out against them, what's the point in continuing in such an association? At least PCB gets to keep it's perceived izzat intact and walk out. It of course is the braver and easier act of the two alternatives but one also with severe repercussions and extremely high risks.. At least it is a show of statement at its most basic level. But can and will PCB take such a step ? Does it have it in them to do that.?

 

[Mesozoic]

If the Indian public is happy to accept sometimes a boycott of Pakistan and sometimes 2 points in WC as a memorial to Mumbai victims that is their right.

India stops bilaterals with Pakistan - PCB loses potential billions of rupees.

India plays Pakistan in multinational tournaments and gives them phainta after phainta year on year.

It's a win-win don't you think? Why wouldn't Indian fans be happy?

 

[offstump]

Am confused where the net worth of Cricket Australia is $79 million and ECB is $59 million, how are they able to pay their national and domestic players better than the PCB and make their domestic cricket financially stand on its feet in comparison to the PCB? Is the PCB intelligently spending its money?

I don’t think these numbers are accurate. There is no real source for the numbers cited in the article. The SKY deal for English cricket was upwards of 220 million pounds and Fox paid over a billion for the CA rights. The only number that might actually be accurate is for the PCB

 

[cricketjoshila]

Am confused where the net worth of Cricket Australia is $79 million and ECB is $59 million, how are they able to pay their national and domestic players better than the PCB and make their domestic cricket financially stand on its feet in comparison to the PCB? Is the PCB intelligently spending its money?

Those are their reserves. CA and ECB fund their cricketers and domestic system with much higher amounts keeping far lesser reserves in percentage terms of their revenue.

 

[Savak]

I don’t think these numbers are accurate. There is no real source for the numbers cited in the article. The SKY deal for English cricket was upwards of 220 million pounds and Fox paid over a billion for the CA rights. The only number that might actually be accurate is for the PCB

The ICC Distribution Table will reflect what the Cricket Boards bring to the ICC, India has the lions share of the annual distribution at $230 million, but then this is followed by the ECB at $41 million and Cricket Australia $37.5 million and then PCB gets $34 million.

The deals you are quoting are not for one year but for a period of 6-7 years. Both the ECB and Cricket Australia desperately wanted India to tour them after Covid, India's tour of Australia in 2021-22, helped Cricket Australia earn $300 million and averted defaulting on their payments. Similarly ECB was in a severe crunch but West Indies and Pakistan touring them in 2020 helped them earn a much needed 80 million pounds from Sky.

 

[Buzzinga]

That's reasonable. If the Indian public is happy to accept sometimes a boycott of Pakistan and sometimes 2 points in WC as a memorial to Mumbai victims that is their right. I frankly think it's a disrespectful argument but you are free to make it.

I also agree there is no moral high ground. Your take on it which is essentially - we have the money and do one until we need you is probably the way India behaves. I don't have a counter argument to that. Might is right. Pakistan should try and stand on it's own two feet.

BCCI is a private organisation and like any other private organisation they are a greedy bunch. They are not doing any service for Mumbai victims or anyone else. If it was upto them they would have happily travelled to Pakistan or invited them for tours or IPL.

But this would create a huge backlash from an angry nationalist population, also they have to be in good books of the Govt.

Therefore they take this stance-

1. No bilaterals home or away.
2. Only play in multi nation tournaments either home or at neutral venues.
3. No Pakistani players in IPL( I'm mentioning IPL because its a huge paycheck for players and the board).

Unlike FIFA or other major sporting bodies, ICC is a (another name for a cat) organisation. They can't force its members to do anything they don't want do it. They couldn't do anything about Aus and Eng not travelling to SL in 96 wc. They couldn't do anything about Aus boycott of Afg. BCCI always arm twist them because of the revenue provided by India(Not BCCI).

PCB is a weak organisation thus they have no other option than to keep getting bullied. Like someone said its a win-win for BCCI. Their revenue isn't getting affected. General public is happy because India mostly wins those occasional clashes you talked about. If India have been losing these regularly you might have seen the demands of complete boycott.

Mumbai attack or any other attack narrative is created just to massage the ego of Public.

 

[Buzzinga]

BCCI is a private organisation and like any other private organisation they are a greedy bunch. They are not doing any service for Mumbai victims or anyone else. If it was upto them they would have happily travelled to Pakistan or invited them for tours or IPL.

But this would create a huge backlash from an angry nationalist population, also they have to be in good books of the Govt.

Therefore they take this stance-

1. No bilaterals home or away.
2. Only play in multi nation tournaments either home or at neutral venues.
3. No Pakistani players in IPL( I'm mentioning IPL because its a huge paycheck for players and the board).

Unlike FIFA or other major sporting bodies, ICC is a (another name for a cat) organisation. They can't force its members to do anything they don't want do it. They couldn't do anything about Aus and Eng not travelling to SL in 96 wc. They couldn't do anything about Aus boycott of Afg. BCCI always arm twist them because of the revenue provided by India(Not BCCI).

PCB is a weak organisation thus they have no other option than to keep getting bullied. Like someone said its a win-win for BCCI. Their revenue isn't getting affected. General public is happy because India mostly wins those occasional clashes you talked about. If India have been losing these regularly you might have seen the demands of complete boycott.

Mumbai attack or any other attack narrative is created just to massage the ego of Public.

Also its worth mentioning that PCB was doing(to a lesser extent) what BCCI is doing today when they had some clout. Its like Divided by borders, United by greed. Everybody does it. In cricket its BCCI, In real life its USA and China. Weak always gets bullied.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Don't think these numbers are accurate. What is the credibility of this source? IT seems like some random paper. HEre is the finance details of ECB

England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) - The Official Website of the ECB

www.ecb.co.uk

ECB finances – where our money comes from and where it goes

OVERVIEW

The ECB oversees, supports and develops the sport of cricket, in every form and at every level, for adults and children. Our ambition is to grow cricket and make it a game in which everyone can feel welcome and included. By inspiring people to discover and share their passion for cricket, we aim to connect communities and improve lives.

Because we are effectively a not-for-profit organisation, all of our income goes back into professional and recreational cricket across England and Wales. In order to run and grow the game, we collaborate with and provide funding to many different organisations from the grassroots up, from local cricket clubs and charities to County Cricket Boards (CCBs) and First-Class County Clubs (FCCs). As part of our drive to broaden participation in the game, we also invest in targeted programmes such as the South Asian Action Plan and the Transforming Women’s and Girls’ Cricket Plan, and we fund provision of cricket in thousands of state schools through delivery partners such as Chance to Shine and Lord’s Taverners.

The scale of the ECB’s ambition and financial commitment to cricket is underpinned by the income that we generate through our commercial activities. Our annual revenue is around £310m, of which around 75% comes from sale of broadcast rights. Most of the remainder is generated through sponsorship, ticket sales and income from the ICC.

All of this revenue flows back into game, either reinvested in the same year or added to our reserves to fund expenditure in future years. Our largest investment is in supporting the domestic professional game, which accounts for 40% of annual expenditure (£120m).

Around 15% of annual expenditure (£50m) is invested in running and developing the recreational game, followed by the Men’s, Women’s and Disability England Teams (15%) and The Hundred (15%), the new competition we launched in 2021 and which generates significant revenue for the whole game. The remainder of our expenditure funds ECB central costs and salaries (15%).

REVENUE

The ECB’s commercial activities generate around £310m of revenue a year. Around 75% of total revenue - £225m - comes from sale of television rights to UK and international broadcasters. The most significant part of this is the ECB’s agreement with Sky, which is locked in until the end of 2028.

The ECB generates around £85m a year from other revenue sources, including sponsorship, ICC income, the ECB’s share of international ticket sales and a small amount of income from participation programmes and Sport England.

EXPENDITURE

All of the ECB’s revenue goes back into the game. We reinvest most of our income – around £290m - in the same year to run, grow and broaden the game. The remainder is used to build up ECB reserves to increase the sustainability of cricket: funding investment in future years and increasing resilience against any future disruption or revenue shortfall.

ECB annual expenditure can be split into 5 categories:

England Teams

Our England teams are the pinnacle of the game. They inspire passion and participation and generate the vast majority of the income that underpins the success of cricket at all levels. The margins between success and failure can be narrow.

The ECB spends £40m a year to fund the England Men’s, Women’s and Disability teams. As well as the salaries of centrally contracted players and the cost of playing home and away, this investment supports our coaching and medical teams, talent development programmes and the National Cricket Performance Centre.

First Class County Cricket and Women’s Domestic Game

To ensure there is a thriving county network at the heart of the domestic game, the ECB invests around £120m a year supporting First-Class County men’s cricket and the more recently established women’s regional competitions.

The majority of this (£70m) is through direct grants under the County Partnership Agreement (CPA) to help the FCCs meet their running costs.

Alongside these direct grants, the ECB provides funding to the FCCs (of around £15m each year) to help meet the growth plans set out in our Inspiring Generations strategy. This includes investment to help the FCCs to improve facilities, develop their talent pathway, build connections with local communities and operate the women’s domestic league.

In addition, the ECB delivers a range of services that benefit domestic cricket where it is more cost-effective to provide this support centrally for the network as a whole. These centrally funded services cost the ECB around £20m a year to deliver, and include things like marketing of competitions, purchasing of insurance, provision of match officials and digital infrastructure development.

The Hundred

Established in 2021, the men’s and women’s Hundred competitions generate revenue of around £60m a year for the ECB (from broadcast, ticket sales and sponsorship) and cost around £45m to deliver. This includes the salaries of players and coaches, marketing and digital activity, matchday operations and event presentation.

In addition to The Hundred fees of £25m distributed to the FCCs as part of the CPA, the venues hosting Hundred teams generate additional revenue from the competition through hosting fees, share of ticket sales , matchday hospitality and retail catering.

Recreational Cricket

So that cricket can fulfil its positive role across England and Wales, the ECB invests £50m a year supporting recreational cricket, growing participation at the grassroots and creating opportunities for under-represented communities.

This includes around £30m of funding to County Cricket Boards to support local cricket clubs across the country, and other organisations involved in delivering grassroots cricket and reaching under-served communities (including ACE, Chance to Shine, and Lord’s Taverners). Part of this investment directly funds the delivery of cricket in around 4,000 state schools.

In addition, the ECB spends around £20m on activity including its national participation programmes (All Stars and Dynamos) – which enable 100,000 girls and boys to pick up a bat and ball each year - and on centrally funded services that support recreational cricket, such as safeguarding, coach development, insurance and digital/ IT infrastructure.

ECB Central Costs

ECB central costs of £40m a year include support function such as commercial, operations, legal and integrity, finance, marketing and communications, and other core requirements like rent, utilities, insurance and IT.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Gather the annual report directly from the respective cricket board's website.

 

[BouncerGuy]

PCB might not have been the richest board but the amount of loses would have been far less and PCB would have been in a better position in the ICC. ATM, PCB has no real say in ICC as we can all see in the champions trophy case and asia cup last time.

 

[Red-Indian]

Top 10 Richest Cricket Boards in the World 2023

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According to this article in 2023 the net worth of BCCI is $2.25 billion

However the net worth of Cricket Australia is $79 million, ECB is $59 million and PCB stood at $55 million.

Please note that Cricket Australia, ECB and other cricket boards benefit from hosting India at home which is considered a significant cash infusion for these boards and these boards have also benefited from hosting ICC events at home.

PCB stands at number 4 at $55 million inspite of not having hosted India at home since 2008 and by all independent TV reports, the PCB has lost the opportunity to earn $1 billion plus as a result of India's boycott.

Would PCB's position have been at number 2 if it benefited like other boards from frequently hosting India at home for test series, ODI and T-20 series from 2008 onwards to today?

This is an interesting subject for me so I'll address it a couple of ways.

First the financials - the numbers in the article are obviously wrong. They are closer to reserves than 'net worth' or revenues which should be the real measure.

I expect the BCCI makes close to $2B annually
ECB about $400m
Cricket Australia about $350m
PCB about $100m

It's not a like for like comparison though since the Big Bash, IPL and PSL are all governed differently.

All incomes and expenses of the Big Bash are borne by Cricket Australia while the PCB gets only a small share of the income and an even smaller piece of the expenses of the PSL. The PCB will get a big bonanza when it reauctions the PSL teams but it's got to spend that carefully over years since the annual competition nets it virtually nothing. Australia just has an ongoing model and I believe it is currently losing money on the Big Bash.

Pakistan unfortunately has a lot going against it in the value of it's domestic cricket rights

- The weak state of the economy
- No India tours
- No marquee hosted cricket to sell. Australia has the Ashes and India tour, England likewise, India has managed to create a lot of buzz about the Australia tour. The PCB has not managed to create that big rivalry with any team that brings the eyeballs.

Net-net yes Pakistan is considerably disadvantaged by the lack of cricketing relations with India.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Top 10 Richest Cricket Boards in the World 2023

Check here to see the top 10 richest cricket boards in the world 2023. Which is the richest cricket board in the world? see the list here.

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According to this article in 2023 the net worth of BCCI is $2.25 billion

However the net worth of Cricket Australia is $79 million, ECB is $59 million and PCB stood at $55 million.

Please note that Cricket Australia, ECB and other cricket boards benefit from hosting India at home which is considered a significant cash infusion for these boards and these boards have also benefited from hosting ICC events at home.

PCB stands at number 4 at $55 million inspite of not having hosted India at home since 2008 and by all independent TV reports, the PCB has lost the opportunity to earn $1 billion plus as a result of India's boycott.

Would PCB's position have been at number 2 if it benefited like other boards from frequently hosting India at home for test series, ODI and T-20 series from 2008 onwards to today?

This data seems to be wrong by miles.

ECB and CA cant be this poor.
and PCB can't be this close to ECB and CA.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Please stay on topic. All the talk about trade with India, Kashmir etc is totally irrelevant to this thread.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

The ICC Distribution Table will reflect what the Cricket Boards bring to the ICC, India has the lions share of the annual distribution at $230 million, but then this is followed by the ECB at $41 million and Cricket Australia $37.5 million and then PCB gets $34 million.

The deals you are quoting are not for one year but for a period of 6-7 years. Both the ECB and Cricket Australia desperately wanted India to tour them after Covid, India's tour of Australia in 2021-22, helped Cricket Australia earn $300 million and averted defaulting on their payments. Similarly ECB was in a severe crunch but West Indies and Pakistan touring them in 2020 helped them earn a much needed 80 million pounds from Sky.

Again, incorrect bhai. Indian market brings 90% of the ICC broadcasting revenue but BCCI gets about 39% of the projected share.

First of all, net worth is wrong. Most articles if they are trying to list are revenues not profits. Huge difference in that.

From a cursory look at financial statements of BCCI, CA, ECB and CSA here i got some number fro FY21-22.

BCCI : US$ 550 million ( not the absurd billion dollars being listed)
CA: US$ 350 million
ECB: US$ 350 million
PCB: US$ 30 million
CSA : US$ 35 million

From 23 onwards new deals have kicked so numbers will change for all boards.
Also among the above boards CSA and CA were running in losses to the tune of 5% while PCB barely breaks even and BCCI has huge huge cash reserves from the past building into billions.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Again, incorrect bhai. Indian market brings 90% of the ICC broadcasting revenue but BCCI gets about 39% of the projected share.

First of all, net worth is wrong. Most articles if they are trying to list are revenues not profits. Huge difference in that.

From a cursory look at financial statements of BCCI, CA, ECB and CSA here i got some number fro FY21-22.

BCCI : US$ 550 million ( not the absurd billion dollars being listed)
CA: US$ 350 million
ECB: US$ 350 million
PCB: US$ 30 million
CSA : US$ 35 million

From 23 onwards new deals have kicked so numbers will change for all boards.
Also among the above boards CSA and CA were running in losses to the tune of 5% while PCB barely breaks even and BCCI has huge huge cash reserves from the past building into billions.

The above mentioned BCCI revenue has massively changed.

BCCI since 2022 has signed a IPL contract that gives them $6.2bn usd over 5 years. From 2023 they will receive another $750mn usd over 5 years for their home matches. From 2023 BCCI also received $160mn per year for a period of 10 years as franchisee fees. In addition to this BCCI receives money from different sponsorship deals. BCCI also receives 20 per cent of the top line of each of the 8 original ICC franchisees.

BCCI's revenue easily crosses a billion a year. Infact if we do a detailed calculation BCCI surplus per year(after revenue sharing with IPL franchisees and before sharing the surplus with state associations may be close to a billion.)

This doesn't include the $230mn per year from the ICC.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

The above mentioned BCCI revenue has massively changed.

BCCI since 2022 has signed a IPL contract that gives them $6.2bn usd over 5 years. From 2023 they will receive another $750mn usd over 5 years for their home matches. From 2023 BCCI also received $160mn per year for a period of 10 years as franchisee fees. In addition to this BCCI receives money from different sponsorship deals. BCCI also receives 20 per cent of the top line of each of the 8 original ICC franchisees.

BCCI's revenue easily crosses a billion a year. Infact if we do a detailed calculation BCCI surplus per year(after revenue sharing with IPL franchisees and before sharing the surplus with state associations may be close to a billion.)

This doesn't include the $230mn per year from the ICC.

I know hence i stated 2022 figures, the figures would change for all boards, but these random articles dont account for that.
So doing apples to apples comparison for which we have verifiable data.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

The above mentioned BCCI revenue has massively changed.

BCCI since 2022 has signed a IPL contract that gives them $6.2bn usd over 5 years. From 2023 they will receive another $750mn usd over 5 years for their home matches. From 2023 BCCI also received $160mn per year for a period of 10 years as franchisee fees. In addition to this BCCI receives money from different sponsorship deals. BCCI also receives 20 per cent of the top line of each of the 8 original ICC franchisees.

BCCI's revenue easily crosses a billion a year. Infact if we do a detailed calculation BCCI surplus per year(after revenue sharing with IPL franchisees and before sharing the surplus with state associations may be close to a billion.)

This doesn't include the $230mn per year from the ICC.

BCCI doesnt get all that broadcasting money for itself. It goes into a central pool from which Franchises get their pre determined share. From the looks of it franchises get about 50% of the broadcasting revenue and BCCI pockets the rest.

I would like to compare once we get access to FY23 financial statements of the boards. ITs easier than random guess work.

 

[Red-Indian]

I know hence i stated 2022 figures, the figures would change for all boards, but these random articles dont account for that.
So doing apples to apples comparison for which we have verifiable data.

Here's the top line I put in a post above

I expect the BCCI makes close to $2B annually ($1.2B IPL + $230m ICC + $150m Domestic + $160m Franchise fees + miscellaneous sponsorships).
ECB about $400m (They actually declared it - ECB Revenue)
Cricket Australia about $350m (They also declare it but here's a Guardian Article Cricket Australia Revenue)
PCB about $100m (This is more of an estimate but it's a fair one given their last deal and ICC revenue)

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Here's the top line I put in a post above

I expect the BCCI makes close to $2B annually ($1.2B IPL + $230m ICC + $150m Domestic + $160m Franchise fees + miscellaneous sponsorships).
ECB about $400m (They actually declared it - ECB Revenue)
Cricket Australia about $350m (They also declare it but here's a Guardian Article Cricket Australia Revenue)
PCB about $100m (This is more of an estimate but it's a fair one given their last deal and ICC revenue)

Are the ECB and CA figures from this year?
PCB was at 30 million dollars, with new ICC deal, it will get influx of about 18 million extra. But I think PSL broadcasting rights have not really increased that much in dollar terms you have to account for depreciation of PKR.

 

[Red-Indian]

Are the ECB and CA figures from this year?
PCB was at 30 million dollars, with new ICC deal, it will get influx of about 18 million extra. But I think PSL broadcasting rights have not really increased that much in dollar terms you have to account for depreciation of PKR.

Yes more or less (of course given the fact that everyone follows different financial calendars).

The PCB is tricky - their revenue sources are
- ICC ($35m)
- Hosted cricket broadcasting rights are tougher since PCB has been selling on a series by series basis but statements when they put up their 3 year rights up for auction seem to point towards an annual value of $30m - ~7B PKR annually PCB Rights auction
. PSL rights are trickier since the PCB only takes 5% but maybe a couple of Million. The Franchise fees bring them $15-16M a year - PSL Franchise Fees
The rest has to come from sponsorships, tour fees etc. I've been generous and estimated the total at $100m since I'm sure to be missing a few revenue sources.

 

[chinaman00]

Whether India tours Pakistan or not is an externality that is beyond the control of the PCB. Even in the absence of the India tours, PCB could have significantly increased its value by ensuring Pakistan cricket was competitive and winning ICC tournaments. This is ultimately what brings broadcast deals. PCB could have also invested in the cricket infrastructure and the fan experience. Instead, Pakistan is regularly losing to minnows and fans are forced to sit on stone slabs.

Why would anyone want to support Pakistan cricket, let alone broadcasters and sponsors that are driven by purely business motives?

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Yes more or less (of course given the fact that everyone follows different financial calendars).

The PCB is tricky - their revenue sources are
- ICC ($35m)
- Hosted cricket broadcasting rights are tougher since PCB has been selling on a series by series basis but statements when they put up their 3 year rights up for auction seem to point towards an annual value of $30m - ~7B PKR annually PCB Rights auction
. PSL rights are trickier since the PCB only takes 5% but maybe a couple of Million. The Franchise fees bring them $15-16M a year - PSL Franchise Fees
The rest has to come from sponsorships, tour fees etc. I've been generous and estimated the total at $100m since I'm sure to be missing a few revenue sources.

Its funny how most reporting about PSL simply talks about the jump instead of giving a raw figure carefully avoiding the huge slide of PKR in the last couple of years.
Honestly, I think it will be hovering around 60 million dollars revenue, profitability will be a different question altogether.

BCCI literally operated on Profit margin of 40% in FY22 (about US$200 million operating profits) . Other boards were either losing money or just about breaking even.

 

[cricketjoshila]

BCCI doesnt get all that broadcasting money for itself. It goes into a central pool from which Franchises get their pre determined share. From the looks of it franchises get about 50% of the broadcasting revenue and BCCI pockets the rest.

I would like to compare once we get access to FY23 financial statements of the boards. ITs easier than random guess work.

BCCI gets everything as BCCI signs the deals. It shares 50 per cent of every deal it gets for the IPL with the franchisees.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

BCCI gets everything as BCCI signs the deals. It shares 50 per cent of every deal it gets for the IPL with the franchisees.

Got it , it will reflect in the revenue earned, and franchise share will be part of expenses.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Got it , it will reflect in the revenue earned, and franchise share will be part of expenses.

I will reconfirm this weekend.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

I will reconfirm this weekend.

I checked it brother, Franchise share get reflected in expenditure of PnL statement of BCCI.

 

[RexRex]

.. it is demonstrably acting openly against Pakistan cricket.

True, and you've been told multiple times on here what the reason for this is. But you refuse to accept it for some reason.

 

[Savak]

Yes more or less (of course given the fact that everyone follows different financial calendars).

The PCB is tricky - their revenue sources are
- ICC ($35m)
- Hosted cricket broadcasting rights are tougher since PCB has been selling on a series by series basis but statements when they put up their 3 year rights up for auction seem to point towards an annual value of $30m - ~7B PKR annually PCB Rights auction
. PSL rights are trickier since the PCB only takes 5% but maybe a couple of Million. The Franchise fees bring them $15-16M a year - PSL Franchise Fees
The rest has to come from sponsorships, tour fees etc. I've been generous and estimated the total at $100m since I'm sure to be missing a few revenue sources.

Back to the original question of the OP, what would the PCB financials look like if they benefited from hosting India from 2009 to today at home given that the ECB and Cricket Australia both are sitting at $350 million per annum where they are enjoying regular home series with India, Ashes series and hosting ICC events whereas the PCB is sitting at $100 million with no Indian series at home, no ICC events.

Surely it would not be unreasonable to conclude they would perhaps be matching ECB and Cricket Australia?

 

[ahmadharis1]

you could give pcb $1 billion daily and they'd throw it all away on corruption

 

[Red-Indian]

Back to the original question of the OP, what would the PCB financials look like if they benefited from hosting India from 2009 to today at home given that the ECB and Cricket Australia both are sitting at $350 million per annum where they are enjoying regular home series with India, Ashes series and hosting ICC events whereas the PCB is sitting at $100 million with no Indian series at home, no ICC events.

Surely it would not be unreasonable to conclude they would perhaps be matching ECB and Cricket Australia?

Don't know if I would go that far...you'd have to develop your domestic market as well which you haven't done so far but it would be worth a lot.

Cricket Australia sold it's domestic TV rights (mainly BBL, Ashes, India visits) to Disney Star in India for AUD250m for 7 years i.e. ~$25m per year. Pakistan I reckon could beat that if it had tours from India. Would be a huge boost to your revenues.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

True, and you've been told multiple times on here what the reason for this is. But you refuse to accept it for some reason.

The so called reason produces more questions than answers.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Back to the original question of the OP, what would the PCB financials look like if they benefited from hosting India from 2009 to today at home given that the ECB and Cricket Australia both are sitting at $350 million per annum where they are enjoying regular home series with India, Ashes series and hosting ICC events whereas the PCB is sitting at $100 million with no Indian series at home, no ICC events.

Surely it would not be unreasonable to conclude they would perhaps be matching ECB and Cricket Australia?

In 2015 PCB signed a broadcast deal worth 150mn USD.

90mn of that was contingent on hosting India twice. Add to that another 5-10mn minimum in sponsorship from Indian sponsors.


So between 2015 to 2020 PCB lost a 100mn USD at the least.

 

[Savak]

In 2015 PCB signed a broadcast deal worth 150mn USD.

90mn of that was contingent on hosting India twice. Add to that another 5-10mn minimum in sponsorship from Indian sponsors.


So between 2015 to 2020 PCB lost a 100mn USD at the least.

What about the lost revenue from 2009 to 2014?

 

[cricketjoshila]

What about the lost revenue from 2009 to 2014?

There are no estimates available for that period. Since an estimate was available for 2015-2020 period i took that.

On basis of that one can make a guess.

 

[rpant_gabba]

The so called reason produces more questions than answers.

The answers will get clearer as likes of Om Puri and manmohan singh die out. Give it another 10 years

 

[sweep_shot]

Quite possibly. Yes.

If India and Pakistan were playing bilaterals frequently, PCB should've gotten even richer. They are already 4th richest board.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Yes.

PCB has been crying all thro' late 90's and early 2000's for bilaterals

got what they wanted for ~ 4 years and reverted to their old habits as nation and as a board starting 2008. now sit back and enjoy the rewards

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Top 10 Richest Cricket Boards in the World 2023

Check here to see the top 10 richest cricket boards in the world 2023. Which is the richest cricket board in the world? see the list here.

www.jagranjosh.com

According to this article in 2023 the net worth of BCCI is $2.25 billion

However the net worth of Cricket Australia is $79 million, ECB is $59 million and PCB stood at $55 million.

Please note that Cricket Australia, ECB and other cricket boards benefit from hosting India at home which is considered a significant cash infusion for these boards and these boards have also benefited from hosting ICC events at home.

PCB stands at number 4 at $55 million inspite of not having hosted India at home since 2008 and by all independent TV reports, the PCB has lost the opportunity to earn $1 billion plus as a result of India's boycott.

Would PCB's position have been at number 2 if it benefited like other boards from frequently hosting India at home for test series, ODI and T-20 series from 2008 onwards to today?

Whats the point of relying on an enemy country for making money?

 

[rpant_gabba]

It also makes India look quite bad.

"Your country banged up our countrymen and left tremendous scars so we stopped playing cricket with you in certain occasion"

That's how it comes across and it does a complete disservice to the poor victims.

It is. thanks to bleeding hearts and the Gandhi Nehru virus baggage that india has been carrying

My preferred approach would have been to inflict as much damage as possible and wipe pak out if necessary. Yes, India would have taken a big hit too. World might have been better place if that had taken place.

That said, things are trending in the correct direction.

Pak as a country has reached new levels of dysfunction and I don't think there end in sight. Political system burned down to the ground. Economy spiralling with no light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[kron]

Two most important factors that have lead to PCB not being able to achieve the kind of revenues as it potentially can.

#1 is Pakistan economy’s inability to back its most famous sport just enough that its cricket board can independently generate great revenues without depending on Bharat and ICC. Sometimes a lot of success is purely by fluke and luck too. It’s not that people who work at BCCI are so much more intelligent, they must be, but at the end of the day it is the strong Bharatiya economy which is helping make BCCI all this money. The market is there to capture and they have just been able to extract the true potential of it thanks to the sponsors.


Secondly, We all have to acknowledge that Mumbai 26/11 terrorist attacks was a major event that has impacted the modern day South East Asian politics and has had a detrimental impact on cricket relationships between Bharat and Pakistan. As incompetent and delusional the PCB administrators have been over the years, they would have still continued to make billions from cricket if they were not at receiving end of the anger of Bharatiya people due to the events that happened in Mumbai. The lack of support from Pakistan government in bringing the perpetrators to justice did not help PCB. The PCB and the fans might have thought the emotions will be gone in some years but that’s not true, it’s been 1 and a half decade and Bharatiya people have not gotten over that incident and probably won’t for years to come meaning point #1 becomes way more crucial.

They need to learn to become self sustainable first. Without outside help. Has to grow organically.

IpL was thr gold mine for bcci. Pcb needs to find its niche. I agree growing economy would benefit pcb. Currently Pakistan ecomonomy is declining and that correlates to having a negative impact in sports. Pcb haven't been able to market and monetise psl to the point where they are able to be self sustainable. This will take some time.

Look at pay scale. Highest paid in psl gets ? 400 k

Highest paid in ipl gets close to 3.5 mil.
That's a humongous difference. Now work out the average pay and the discrepancy is even higher.

Australia with big bash too pay very little. Hence they join IPL to enjoy the riches.

 

[rpant_gabba]

The reality is that India is demonstrably the petulant one, it is demonstrably the petulant one and it is demonstrably acting openly against Pakistan cricket.

The only petulant one here are Pak Govt, PCB and Pak fans like you.

you were living in a dream world where there you thought there would be no consequences to your actions, policies and attitudes. no price to pay.

Guess fate hate other plans.

Enjoy the rewards.

 

[BouncerGuy]

PCB could have been anything but the corruption and inner fights did not let them do any wonders. PCB should be looking to fix itself and not just rely on others to make them money.

Be self sustainable and take bold steps for the betterment of the cricket. There is no shame in earning 4th highest money after BCCI, CA and ECB. they have earned it.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

PCB could have been anything but the corruption and inner fights did not let them do any wonders. PCB should be looking to fix itself and not just rely on others to make them money.

Be self sustainable and take bold steps for the betterment of the cricket. There is no shame in earning 4th highest money after BCCI, CA and ECB. they have earned it.

By the worse of worse metrics of economics and population, PCB should have been managed to be around 1/10th of What BCCI has managed but its not. India Pakistan not playing each other hurt them both, so ignore that part. BCCI's revenue were nearly 15 times a few years ago, and will soon be hovering in the territory of being around 25-30 times of that of PCB.
Forget all that, in terms of profitability BCCI is more than 200X of what PCB gets and has been building the most powerful cash reserves in cricket history.

Whatever blame PCB might want to lay on BCCI but no way it should be so far below and performing so pathetically in financial sustainability. Going by the trends and Indian investment in SA cricket, South Africa will overhaul PCB in both revenue and profitability in coming years.
and PCB falls down to 5th. and if BCB gets its act together, they can also outrun PCB.

 

[Sir Alex]

By the worse of worse metrics of economics and population, PCB should have been managed to be around 1/10th of What BCCI has managed but its not. India Pakistan not playing each other hurt them both, so ignore that part. BCCI's revenue were nearly 15 times a few years ago, and will soon be hovering in the territory of being around 25-30 times of that of PCB.
Forget all that, in terms of profitability BCCI is more than 200X of what PCB gets and has been building the most powerful cash reserves in cricket history.

Whatever blame PCB might want to lay on BCCI but no way it should be so far below and performing so pathetically in financial sustainability. Going by the trends and Indian investment in SA cricket, South Africa will overhaul PCB in both revenue and profitability in coming years.
and PCB falls down to 5th. and if BCB gets its act together, they can also outrun PCB.

It's reflective of the economy of the respective countries.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan is a single sports country. They are the second most populated cricketing nation. So there is no reason why they can be stronger than they are now. But the economy of the country also plays a role. The amount of money Indian fans are willing to pay to watch an IPL match is staggering. Cricket enthusiasm + strong middle class with buying capacity + solid national team + ATG level superstars = JACKPOT. India has all of it. India's grassroots level set up is next level, unparalleled. It will hold them in good stead for a long time.

Pakistan has to fix

1) Their Economy
2) Grassroot level set up
3) Infrastructure


1) is not in their hands.

 

[Energy]

Second richest would only have meant the sports politicians and their right-hands pocket higher salaries. We're deluded in thinking Infrastructure and other developments would have happened if the board had more income.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Second richest would only have meant the sports politicians and their right-hands pocket higher salaries. We're deluded in thinking Infrastructure and other developments would have happened if the board had more income.

BCCI is your example of sports politicians pocketing millions, controlling billions and also developing infra at grass roots level.

 

[Sir Alex]

BCCI is your example of sports politicians pocketing millions, controlling billions and also developing infra at grass roots level.

Yeah benevolent dictatorship