Yashasvi Jaiswal versus Saim Ayub

[Rana]

That’s the comparison

That’s the thread

Two high class, talented young left handed openers of world cricket. At the moment, I recon Jaiswal edges Saim with shot range and a bit more of an aggressive intent

InshaAllah, both will serve their countries valiantly for a long time!

 

[MenInG]

That’s the comparison

That’s the thread

Two high class, talented young left handed openers of world cricket. At the moment, I recon Jaiswal edges Saim with shot range and a bit more of an aggressive intent

InshaAllah, both will serve their countries valiantly for a long time!

Yashasvi Jaiswal

Saim Ayub

 

[PakEngFan]

Unfair comparison jaiswal is in another league. That doesn’t mean Saim is not good he in his own right has the making of an excellent player.

 

[Rajdeep]

Not much idea about Saim Ayub but I rate Jaiswal very highly. He is the most talented young Indian batsman and ideally should be in national team. Jaiswal is actually more talented than Gill and overhyped Shaw.

The only issue with him is his behaviour. Guy is total idiot and very hot headed. Once Rahane asked him to leave the ground in a Ranji match for Mumbai. If he can fix this aspect of his, he will be next big thing in Indian cricket.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He is one good IPL away from team India.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Bit unfair to compare Pakistani and Indian youngsters like this. All future comparisons should be banned imo. The Pakistani youngsters are all more talented than the Indian ones.

 

[Ab Fan]

Jaiswal.

Gill and Jaiswal are the best young batting talent from India.

 

[Suleiman]

Yaar kyun?

Why can’t we just appreciate what we have. These bechare Pakistani youngsters get berated in these threads compared to Indian youngsters who have had far superior coaching and environment to develop as cricketers on average.

You can call it an excuse but say they were born in opposite countries, who would end up the better batsman on average?

These comparisons are fine for bowlers as AA we still produce good players in that regard, but batsmen wise these comparisons are a bit of an unnecessary pressure.

Maybe after Saim reaches Kami or Saeed Anwar levels in LOIs we can compare.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Jaiswal very level-headed batsman and can be aggressive when needed to. May not be a six hitter like Rohit or Ruturaj. But a bit like Dhawan in ODI and Ganguly in Tests. Great consistency in first class. Will be a great Test player more than T20.

 

[jnaveen1980]

He is one good IPL away from team India.

He should already be playing Test matches.

 

[Ahmed216]

Too early for comparisons. Leagues can often give wrong impression of a players ability. Do they belong to the league of big boys or one of them does? Remains to be seen

 

[JattMaula]

Not much idea about Saim Ayub but I rate Jaiswal very highly. He is the most talented young Indian batsman and ideally should be in national team. Jaiswal is actually more talented than Gill and overhyped Shaw.

The only issue with him is his behaviour. Guy is total idiot and very hot headed. Once Rahane asked him to leave the ground in a Ranji match for Mumbai. If he can fix this aspect of his, he will be next big thing in Indian cricket.

Jaiswal is indeed a little rascal. He reportedly made that ranji opponent cry with sledging. Rahane had to do something lol.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Ayub looks more solid than Jaiswal who tends to be over aggressive and throws his wicket away. But Jaiswal has better shot making ability than Ayub. Both are about equal in my opinion.

 

[JAV12341]

This Jaiswal guy is a special talent. Another one of many batting talents India keep churning out. Will be another superstar for India

 

[Champ_Pal]

This Jaiswal guy is a special talent. Another one of many batting talents India keep churning out. Will be another superstar for India

Many have flattered to deceive in the last 3 or 4 years. I still do not trust Jaiswal's defense. He is better than Shaw though.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Too early for comparisons. Leagues can often give wrong impression of a players ability. Do they belong to the league of big boys or one of them does? Remains to be seen

Jaiswal is not rated due to IPL. He is just okay in IPL. He is rated for his first class/India A matches/Under-19 performances.

 

[JAV12341]

Many have flattered to deceive in the last 3 or 4 years. I still do not trust Jaiswal's defense. He is better than Shaw though.

He has hit some big scores even in domestic cricket and is surely destined for the top.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Ayub looks more solid than Jaiswal who tends to be over aggressive and throws his wicket away. But Jaiswal has better shot making ability than Ayub. Both are about equal in my opinion.

Only in IPL. Otherwise he has a gun temperament better than Gill. Made 285 in 323 balls in Duleep Trophy final. And in the Irani Trophy made 217(259) & 144(157) in the same match. this year.

 

[Mamoon]

I really like Saim but one should never compare Indian and Pakistani batsmen. Indian batsmen will always wipe the floor with their Pakistani counterparts.

 

[JAV12341]

I really like Saim but one should never compare Indian and Pakistani batsmen. Indian batsmen will always wipe the floor with their Pakistani counterparts.

100% agree with you. Indian batsmen are head and shoulders above any Pakistan batsmen has ever produced and will stay like that forever.

 

[Osama Shafeeqe]

I really like Saim but one should never compare Indian and Pakistani batsmen. Indian batsmen will always wipe the floor with their Pakistani counterparts.

Name one Indian Batsman that is Babar Azam's age or below that has achieved as much as him. The only comparison there is at the moment is that of him and KL Rahul who is almost 3 years older and Babar is far superior in all three formats.

It is always hard to tell the future with young talented batsman, Shaw was rated to be the next Tendulkar but is batting like Ajit Agarkar.

Both batsman look impressive but there development can only happen in a competitive but nurturing environment with plenty of support and guidance from senior players. The Indian team might not be this, with Rohit and Virat looking like there on their last legs. New Indian batsman might be coming in a competitive environment but it may not be nurturing.

 

[Mamoon]

Name one Indian Batsman that is Babar Azam's age or below that has achieved as much as him. The only comparison there is at the moment is that of him and KL Rahul who is almost 3 years older and Babar is far superior in all three formats.

It is always hard to tell the future with young talented batsman, Shaw was rated to be the next Tendulkar but is batting like Ajit Agarkar.

Both batsman look impressive but there development can only happen in a competitive but nurturing environment with plenty of support and guidance from senior players. The Indian team might not be this, with Rohit and Virat looking like there on their last legs. New Indian batsman might be coming in a competitive environment but it may not be nurturing.

Gill is a far better batsman than Babar. 10 years down the line even hardcore Babar fans wouldn’t dare to compare the two.

India is a batting-obsessed nation. They will never be short of world class batsmen. We celebrate one Babar Azam in 20 years where as they produce several elite batsmen every few years.

 

[shariqnoor]

Gill is a far better batsman than Babar. 10 years down the line even hardcore Babar fans wouldn’t dare to compare the two.

India is a batting-obsessed nation. They will never be short of world class batsmen. We celebrate one Babar Azam in 20 years where as they produce several elite batsmen every few years.

I've never seen anyone in Pakistan street cricket ever wanting to bowl out of choice. If you win the toss in backyard cricket, I cannot remember anyone wanting to do anything but bat first. Pakistan is as batting-obsessed as India, however the results are totally opposite.

The only thing I can think of why that is so is that batting has much more nuances and technical skills that are required to succeed at the top level. Whereas, fast bowling at the initial stage is just about running in and throwing the ball as fast as you can. India with a better educational setup and infrastructure are able to create top level coaches right at the grassroots who understand the technicality of batting. Pakistani grassroot coaches are probably not technically equipped to correct batsmen's flaws at the early stage hence we don't get as many world-class batsmen as India.

 

[Abhilash93]

Jaiswal.

Gill and Jaiswal are the best young batting talent from India.

Add Tilak Varma to that list.

 

[Suleiman]

I've never seen anyone in Pakistan street cricket ever wanting to bowl out of choice. If you win the toss in backyard cricket, I cannot remember anyone wanting to do anything but bat first. Pakistan is as batting-obsessed as India, however the results are totally opposite.

The only thing I can think of why that is so is that batting has much more nuances and technical skills that are required to succeed at the top level. Whereas, fast bowling at the initial stage is just about running in and throwing the ball as fast as you can. India with a better educational setup and infrastructure are able to create top level coaches right at the grassroots who understand the technicality of batting. Pakistani grassroot coaches are probably not technically equipped to correct batsmen's flaws at the early stage hence we don't get as many world-class batsmen as India.

Agreed. India have a repeatable system to produce quality batsmen. They also have a pedigree of quality technically sound batsmen over decades which helps as well to inspire the next gen to be proper bats and not mere tullaybaaz.

Not saying Pakistan hasn’t produced top notch batsmen in the past but India produced proper ATGs or close to ATG far more often.

 

[Ab Fan]

Add Tilak Varma to that list.

Good batsman but let's see. Temperament seems good and is talented as well but not as much as Gill or Pant or even Jaiswal.

Gill, Pant and Jaiswal - my bet would be on these three.

Among spin A/R, Sundar is ready in Tests,will take Jadeja's spot once he goes away.

 

[moghul]

I don't think its an unfair comparison , Indian batsmen generally are a bit overrated . Jaiswal is a great talent which I mentioned after I watched him playing under 19 WC, he is a fine all format players and way ahead of Saim in longer format .

Saim on the other hand is already an international cricketer and likely to cement his place in WBC for Pakistan . His rise has been rapid and not gradual, as the case with Jasiwal.

If I have to pick one of them for my team , I would pick Saim for my T20 team and Jaiswal for test/FC and one day team.

 

[moghul]

Gill is a far better batsman than Babar. 10 years down the line even hardcore Babar fans wouldn’t dare to compare the two.

India is a batting-obsessed nation. They will never be short of world class batsmen. We celebrate one Babar Azam in 20 years where as they produce several elite batsmen every few years.

I try my best to take your comments seriously , but then I frequently see comments like this .

 

[proud_pakistani]

I was actually thinking few days a go this player comparison deserves a thread. Though usually when such a thread has been made about a Pakistani vs Indian batsman it never ends well for us.

Really like both players. Saim is very good by Pakistani standards. I can see him being better than many of the batsmen we have tested in the past. Has a good mature head as well and working with Babar will help him, though he still needs some nurturing. Jaiswal on the other hand already looks like a finished product. Scintillating stroke play and the best part is a lot of his strokes are very conventional. Both have a good future though I worry Pakistans batting culture would mean he will find more hurdles in his progress whereas Jaiswal will have a better environment to grow as a player.

 

[Mamoon]

I try my best to take your comments seriously , but then I frequently see comments like this .

That is good to hear because I don’t want to argue with people who can’t see that Gill’s ceiling is far higher than Babar’s.

If he doesn’t get injured he will easily surpass him in all three formats.

 

[Rana]

I try my best to take your comments seriously , but then I frequently see comments like this .

Tbf, Mamoon is right

 

[giri26]

Good batsman but let's see. Temperament seems good and is talented as well but not as much as Gill or Pant or even Jaiswal.

Gill, Pant and Jaiswal - my bet would be on these three.

Among spin A/R, Sundar is ready in Tests,will take Jadeja's spot once he goes away.

Sai Sudharshan has been very good as well this IPL. A good first class record as well. India have quite a few young players coming through. Time for the old guards to hang up their boots. We need another overhaul like the one which happened in 2013, which paved way for the golden era of Indian cricket.

 

[moghul]

Tbf, Mamoon is right

Imagine these are the "experts" here,

 

[offstump]

Mamoon’s entire schtick is to play the I’m a very smart anti Pakistan Pakistani card. You could start a thread on Wasim Akram Vs Javigal Srinath and Mamoon will
come sweeping in with various absurd reasons as to why Srinath had a higher ceiling than Akram and how he was so much better. You could go back in time and compare players from the 1940s and Mamoon would know better than everyone else.

 

[shamaan]

I will pick Saim Ayub in t20s ahead of Jaiswal
I will pick Jaiswal ahead of Saim in tests

Both are the best in thier countries in different formats.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Both are so talented, although they haven't had much international exposure yet but i am sure their exceptional batting skills will undoubtedly take them a long way.

I would rate Saim littble bit higher than Jaiswal because of his 360 degree play.

 

[Rana]

Soon, Gill and Jaiswal will be India’s all format opening pair

Two batsmen with real personalities. Both have anger and passion.

 

[TheNeutralist]

Similar to all other comparison threads, I don't see this ending well

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Saim Ayub is really gifted. Those supple wrists make him a very watchable batsman. Also, he has real potential because he's the only young batter in the white ball setup who is actually a youngster and is very likely accurate in terms of stated age. So that's a very good sign and his learning curve hasn't ended and there is still scope for massive improvement. He is rightly very highly rated and PAK fans should be disappointed if he isn't an upgrade on Saeed Anwar.

The Abdullah Shafique's and Haider Ali's are most certainly overaged and they're not gonna get massively better or last a whole lot longer. Don't expect miracles from them.

 

[shamaan]

Saim Ayub is really gifted. Those supple wrists make him a very watchable batsman. Also, he has real potential because he's the only young batter in the white ball setup who is actually a youngster and is very likely accurate in terms of stated age. So that's a very good sign and his learning curve hasn't ended and there is still scope for massive improvement. He is rightly very highly rated and PAK fans should be disappointed if he isn't an upgrade on Saeed Anwar.

The Abdullah Shafique's and Haider Ali's are most certainly overaged and they're not gonna get massively better or last a whole lot longer. Don't expect miracles from them.

In tests Abdullah will get a long run and has already achieved good results.

 

[ahmadharis1]

I remember hearing all this same stuff about Haider Ali... temper your expectations folks. Give him a proper year or two to develop

 

[Nikhil_cric]

In tests Abdullah will get a long run and has already achieved good results.

I was talking about this attempt to turn Abdullah into a white ball batter. I think Abdullah is closer to his peak than peeps realise. You're getting pretty much the best you can. Also think Saud is overrated for white ball and Haider Ali is probably never going to be what his fans want him to be. Not even close

But Saim has the potential to be an elite opener. Best prospect since Babar himself imo. Proper all-format batter coming up. I haven't been more impressed by a PAK batting prospect in years.

Such a classy batter - Anwar but with much more intent. Early days but seems mentally tough and pretty intelligent too so will learn quick I think.

Not that bullish on your batting prospects but then again I haven't watched Hurraira

 

[jnaveen1980]

Almost all Indian stars are directly from under-19 since the days of Yuvraj singh. Dhawan, Rohit, Raina, Kohli, Irfan, Jadeja, Pujara, KL Rahul more recently Gill, Jaiswal, Pant, Isan Kishan, Samson, Sundar. Pakistan has gone down a touch in under-19 world cup since they lost final in 2014. Finished 5th, 3rd, 3rd, 5th in the last 4 editions. India has dominated the last few world cups by reaching 4 finals in a row and wining two of them. I remember Rohail Nazir having a massive hype around 2018 or 2020. Nowhere to be seen. In the last few editions Shaheen/Naseem are the bright spots for Pakistan.

Nowadays selections are based on these random T20 leagues which may be largely hit or miss at international level. Ofcourse there are some guys who are really good. Ashwin without IPL probably would have never made debut in Tests. Bumrah has a similar story behind him. Pandya is another. Overall pure IPL products have yielded mixed results.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Are you saying that Abdullah peak is now due to his age or just generally Hurraira is good But I think he's more of a middle order batter ( good player of spin)

His ability against good pace is a bit suspect for me. It doesn't get tested on extremely flat Pakistani wickets or against SL in Tests. Need to see him on Australian wickets later this year. Also looks a very nervous, anxious starter.

He made his under-19 debut for Pakistan at the age of "15" and continued playing U-19 for 3 years and took another year to make his FC debut and another 4.5 years later has only played 4 List A + 4 ODI's and he is in the World Cup squad?

Very strange progression. Prodigious 15 year are olds usually good ball strikers and take to white ball first.

Anyway, if he is picked as backup opener, it would be unfair to someone like Saim Ayub whose talent is obvious, has played more List A and has a better record in both List A and PSL/domestic T20 and even played Emerging Asia Cup etc.

Very strange selection imo.

 

[TeamPak95]

I don't care how talented he is, I want Saim to light up QeA and List A (which already looks decent tbf) and really rack up the numbers so that he doesn't join the ever-so growing list of Pakistani players to play for Pakistan with not much domestic experience only to get found out internationally.

Jaiswal's played a decent 17 FC games and the dude's averaging 81.19! With that enormous average, he's clearly ready (already has a test 50 and 100 to boot). Not saying Saim needs to average astronomically high here but he shouldn't rest on his laurels with his talent and actually showcase it in domestics (FC in particular) to show that not only is he a gifted bat but also has the numbers to prove it.

 

[ahmadharis1]

I don't care how talented he is, I want Saim to light up QeA and List A (which already looks decent tbf) and really rack up the numbers so that he doesn't join the ever-so growing list of Pakistani players to play for Pakistan with not much domestic experience only to get found out internationally.

Jaiswal's played a decent 17 FC games and the dude's averaging 81.19! With that enormous average, he's clearly ready (already has a test 50 and 100 to boot). Not saying Saim needs to average astronomically high here but he shouldn't rest on his laurels with his talent and actually showcase it in domestics (FC in particular) to show that not only is he a gifted bat but also has the numbers to prove it.

This 100000%

I like him, a big fan of his game and think he has a future but I feel like we as a fandom get overexcited. Give him some time in domestics and if he really is the talent everyone says he is, then he will excel in those tournaments. Tired of seeing players with a handful of domestic matches get called up to the team. Earn your spot

 

[Markhor]

I was talking about this attempt to turn Abdullah into a white ball batter. I think Abdullah is closer to his peak than peeps realise. You're getting pretty much the best you can. Also think Saud is overrated for white ball and Haider Ali is probably never going to be what his fans want him to be. Not even close

But Saim has the potential to be an elite opener. Best prospect since Babar himself imo. Proper all-format batter coming up. I haven't been more impressed by a PAK batting prospect in years.

Such a classy batter - Anwar but with much more intent. Early days but seems mentally tough and pretty intelligent too so will learn quick I think.

Not that bullish on your batting prospects but then again I haven't watched Hurraira

Your views carry a lot of weight for me so I'm surprised you rate Saim that highly. Honestly, and in fairness I've not seen enough of him live, he looks very flatfooted at the crease. I see more Sharjeel Khan than Saeed Anwar.

From the clips I saw, yes he's a clean hitter of balls in his arc. Very strong through midwicket and can play those funky T20 shots. However I didn't see many scoring shots off pace from good length deliveries through the offside whereas Babar's excellent in this regard.

In the T20s vs AFG earlier this year, he shovelled a ball on offstump onto his wicket in the first match and nicked off to Farooqi the next game. That's in UAE conditions against a far weaker pace attack than he'll get at the World Cup. With this new Kookaburra that swings a lot more, will his stance hold up ?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Your views carry a lot of weight for me so I'm surprised you rate Saim that highly. Honestly, and in fairness I've not seen enough of him live, he looks very flatfooted at the crease. I see more Sharjeel Khan than Saeed Anwar.

From the clips I saw, yes he's a clean hitter of balls in his arc. Very strong through midwicket and can play those funky T20 shots. However I didn't see many scoring shots off pace from good length deliveries through the offside whereas Babar's excellent in this regard.

In the T20s vs AFG earlier this year, he shovelled a ball on offstump onto his wicket in the first match and nicked off to Farooqi the next game. That's in UAE conditions against a far weaker pace attack than he'll get at the World Cup. With this new Kookaburra that swings a lot more, will his stance hold up ?

All guys when they are new wow us with some good cameos. Dewal Brevis impressed everyone in under-19 world cup later on in a few T20s. He looked totally legit. But over a period he either regressed or got found out. I still think he will turn into a great batsman. But cannot hype players based on how they play shots. How they build their innings is a better way of assessing someone's career. Jaiswal has already demonstrated in domestic many times how he builds his innings. He is step above Gill in that regard.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Your views carry a lot of weight for me so I'm surprised you rate Saim that highly. Honestly, and in fairness I've not seen enough of him live, he looks very flatfooted at the crease. I see more Sharjeel Khan than Saeed Anwar.

From the clips I saw, yes he's a clean hitter of balls in his arc. Very strong through midwicket and can play those funky T20 shots. However I didn't see many scoring shots off pace from good length deliveries through the offside whereas Babar's excellent in this regard.

In the T20s vs AFG earlier this year, he shovelled a ball on offstump onto his wicket in the first match and nicked off to Farooqi the next game. That's in UAE conditions against a far weaker pace attack than he'll get at the World Cup. With this new Kookaburra that swings a lot more, will his stance hold up ?

Didn't say anything about his technique Yeah it's probably not the greatest. I'm just going by his hand-eye.

Watch that shot where he hits Milne over long off for six. If you slow that down, you'll see that it's not pre-meditated at all . He's actually reacting to the ball, lol. Fast hands ,picking the trajectory very early and hitting a fast bowler like that and that too so effortlessly? This kid is legit. Sharjeel was "27" when he started playing regularly for Pakistan .

If you watch that, he has slog swept Sodhi, played cuts behind square and his technique looks much better than Fakhar already

Wouldn't judge based on AFG series. At least he was trying to hit while getting out. Young white ball batters are better off erring on the side of aggression rather than looking timid and batting selfishly. Needs to be encouraged to just get better at execution - like Morgan used to encourage. Technique actually gets better when you encourage aggression. Young batters will always find better positions to hit the ball. Just needs to be fine tuned afterwards.

Get him to Bradburn, Mickey, puttick and co. now. Babar was not very polished in 2016 either. Took 2 -3 years under Mickey and Grant. Saim Ayub needs that level of help rather than keep playing Pakistan Cup .

I think he's probably improved as much as possible at the Pakistan Cup level.

 

[Ahmed216]

Didn't say anything about his technique Yeah it's probably not the greatest. I'm just going by his hand-eye.

Watch that shot where he hits Milne over long off for six. If you slow that down, you'll see that it's not pre-meditated at all . He's actually reacting to the ball, lol. Fast hands ,picking the trajectory very early and hitting a fast bowler like that and that too so effortlessly? This kid is legit. Sharjeel was "27" when he started playing regularly for Pakistan .

If you watch that, he has slog swept Sodhi, played cuts behind square and his technique looks much better than Fakhar already

Wouldn't judge based on AFG series. At least he was trying to hit while getting out. Young white ball batters are better off erring on the side of aggression rather than looking timid and batting selfishly. Needs to be encouraged to just get better at execution - like Morgan used to encourage. Technique actually gets better when you encourage aggression. Young batters will always find better positions to hit the ball. Just needs to be fine tuned afterwards.

Get him to Bradburn, Mickey, puttick and co. now. Babar was not very polished in 2016 either. Took 2 -3 years under Mickey and Grant. Saim Ayub needs that level of help rather than keep playing Pakistan Cup .

I think he's probably improved as much as possible at the Pakistan Cup level.

Top top post. Was going to reply exactly the same to M

 

[Markhor]

Didn't say anything about his technique Yeah it's probably not the greatest. I'm just going by his hand-eye.

Watch that shot where he hits Milne over long off for six. If you slow that down, you'll see that it's not pre-meditated at all . He's actually reacting to the ball, lol. Fast hands ,picking the trajectory very early and hitting a fast bowler like that and that too so effortlessly? This kid is legit. Sharjeel was "27" when he started playing regularly for Pakistan .

If you watch that, he has slog swept Sodhi, played cuts behind square and his technique looks much better than Fakhar already

Wouldn't judge based on AFG series. At least he was trying to hit while getting out. Young white ball batters are better off erring on the side of aggression rather than looking timid and batting selfishly. Needs to be encouraged to just get better at execution - like Morgan used to encourage. Technique actually gets better when you encourage aggression. Young batters will always find better positions to hit the ball. Just needs to be fine tuned afterwards.

Get him to Bradburn, Mickey, puttick and co. now. Babar was not very polished in 2016 either. Took 2 -3 years under Mickey and Grant. Saim Ayub needs that level of help rather than keep playing Pakistan Cup .

I think he's probably improved as much as possible at the Pakistan Cup level.

Good stuff. I hope we don't coach the aggression out of him.

There's a 5 match T20I series in New Zealand in January and he should be opening in all. Please no more Babar-Rizwan opening combination in meaningless bilaterals.

 

[shamaan]

His ability against good pace is a bit suspect for me. It doesn't get tested on extremely flat Pakistani wickets or against SL in Tests. Need to see him on Australian wickets later this year. Also looks a very nervous, anxious starter.

He made his under-19 debut for Pakistan at the age of "15" and continued playing U-19 for 3 years and took another year to make his FC debut and another 4.5 years later has only played 4 List A + 4 ODI's and he is in the World Cup squad?

Very strange progression. Prodigious 15 year are olds usually good ball strikers and take to white ball first.

Anyway, if he is picked as backup opener, it would be unfair to someone like Saim Ayub whose talent is obvious, has played more List A and has a better record in both List A and PSL/domestic T20 and even played Emerging Asia Cup etc.

Very strange selection imo.

Your proberly only saying he's suspect because he has done quite well in flat/ spinning conditions and how can you say he looks suspect based upon that.

That's due to not recognising talent more anything else.

Abdullah can play in the top 4 Saim can only open pluss Abdullah has some experience in international and surely that counts for something even though its a different format.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Your proberly only saying he's suspect because he has done quite well in flat/ spinning conditions and how can you say he looks suspect based upon that.

That's due to not recognising talent more anything else.

Abdullah can play in the top 4 Saim can only open pluss Abdullah has some experience in international and surely that counts for something even though its a different format.

Oh not just based on that. I think he had issues against SLA's too until recently.
Like I said, gotta see him on livelier tracks before coming to any conclusion.

 

[Thanos]

Honestly I had no idea who Saim ayub is. I saw the thread subject and YouTubed his 50+ inning in CPL.

Difficult for me to judge by one inning but he can be that impactful player Pakistan team is missing. Problem with most of these impactful players that they perform 50% of the times only. But whenever they do, they win the matches for team.

He also seems player like Jaiswal who throws away his wicket easily. Always an issue with attacking batsmen.

 

[Bilal7]

Saim Ayub looks like the real deal and might end up being the new-age Imran Nazir that actually fulfulls his potential.

Only 21 years of age and already has every shot in the book. Win or lose, he needs to be fast-tracked into the ODI team after the world cup.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Good stuff. I hope we don't coach the aggression out of him.

There's a 5 match T20I series in New Zealand in January and he should be opening in all. Please no more Babar-Rizwan opening combination in meaningless bilaterals.

You mean Babar and Rizwan will not open anymore?

C'est impossible.

 

[Savak]

Saim Ayub. The next Saeed Anwar

 

[Bilal7]

Babar and Rizwan are going nowhere. They are the best T20 opening partnership in our history and on their way to becoming the best in cricketing history.

Saim should bat at #3 and Haris at #4. Fakhar will probably be the spare batsman.

1) Babar
2) Rizwan
3) Saim
4) Haris
5) Iftikhar
6) Imad
7) Shadab
8) Nawaz/Jamal/extra batter

Then the pace attack

 

[hassan918]

In t20 cricket, they both are really good but in longer formats I think Jaiswal has the edge over Saim at the moment.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

I would definitely go for Saim Ayub because he possesses a broader range of shots and can play effectively across almost every angle.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Babar and Rizwan are going nowhere. They are the best T20 opening partnership in our history and on their way to becoming the best in cricketing history.

Saim should bat at #3 and Haris at #4. Fakhar will probably be the spare batsman.

1) Babar
2) Rizwan
3) Saim
4) Haris
5) Iftikhar
6) Imad
7) Shadab
8) Nawaz/Jamal/extra batter

Then the pace attack

Babar and Rizwan opening combo is the greatest deception in our history of T20 and they have conned an entire nation into believing that they are the best at T20s.

They are well onto their way of producing the greatest con show in history of cricket.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Jaiswal is bullying Nepal 57 in 25 balls with 5 sixes. Ruturaj is tuktuking with 14 in 17.

 

[amvbfm]

Jaiswal has the potential to be an ATG. Not only because he is exceptionally talented but because of how he has struggled to get where he is. At the highest level grit and hunger counts for more than mere talent and this guy has it in spades.

 

[Rajdeep]

Jaiswal is India's best batsman at present across all formats. He is much better than Shubhman Gill. It is astonishing how India has not picked him for world cup and send him to play in Asian games. Just hope after the world cup, he is opening for India across all formats.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Jaiswal vs ayub is a good comparison to be made. Both are young and upcoming stars. But for me. Jaiswal is the one I will pick because of his solid foundation and grooming.

 

[Unbiased-Fan]

Ayub is so talented and pleasant to watch but i think Jaiswal is 10 times better than him.

 

[Devadwal]

I just want to created new comparison thread but there is already.
Jaiswal and Saim both are fearless players and both will going to play all three formats for respective countries.
Saim Ayub should open for Pakistan in Australia and Jaiswal should Play against South Africa in test series .

 

[Champ_Pal]

Ayub is so talented and pleasant to watch but i think Jaiswal is 10 times better than him.

Jaiswal is slightly ahead of him. Better range of shots. He is more aggressive than Saim.

Jaiswal hits too many aerial shots for my liking. He does not know how to control his aggression. He gives away his wicket too cheaply. Saim has more controlled aggression.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Both are very exciting young talents, but I think Saim Ayub is technically more sound compared to Jaiswal.

 

[ahmadharis1]

Not to take anything away from Saim Ayub who has the potential to be a good batsman for us... but honestly just by virtue of coming up through the indian domestic system, I'd comfortably put Jaiswal ahead of Saim Ayub

 

[sweep_shot]

Both are talented youngsters.

At this point, Jaiswal is slightly ahead because Saim hasn't played too many international games yet.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Jaiswal hit 53 off 25 balls in the 2nd T20I against Australia.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Your proberly only saying he's suspect because he has done quite well in flat/ spinning conditions and how can you say he looks suspect based upon that.

That's due to not recognising talent more anything else.

Abdullah can play in the top 4 Saim can only open pluss Abdullah has some experience in international and surely that counts for something even though its a different format.

Has struggled against the new ball on these Aussie pitches . Opening on Pakistani pitches and against SL attack flattered him a bit imo

 

[Suleiman]

Saim is a once in a 130 year talent. He got unlucky in the first innings. If Australia score 400-500, all they’ve done is created a situation for a Saim Special to take place.

 

[Devadwal]

Jaiswal is great slip catcher while saim just dropped warner at 1st slip

 

[BouncerGuy]

Saim is making a debut. Stop comparing him with a guy who has played international cricket and has been a permanent part of the team now. Yes Saim should have taken that catch, it was a dolly but it is too early to right him off.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Just one innings, judge him after at least 10 tests. Jaiswal has failed in SA, but he will be a great batsman in coming years. Got to be patient with youngsters. Head had a terrible start to his career, first in UAE against Pak, then the Border Gavaskar Trophy at home, an away Ashes in 2019, mid 20s average. But Aus management persisted with him and he won them a WTC and WC.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Saim is a once in a 130 year talent. He got unlucky in the first innings. If Australia score 400-500, all they’ve done is created a situation for a Saim Special to take place.

Don't know much about him but is he that good? Best young prospect since 1992 Inzi or something like that?

I thought Umar Akmal was a special talent, when as a teenager he scored that 100 against Shane Bond in NZ and followed it up with another 100 in SL against Murali. For me he was the greatest unrealized talent in Pak batting.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Jaiswal is an awesome slip catcher, for his young age especially. We needed him after Rahane's exit.

 

[AMSS]

Saim is a once in a 130 year talent. He got unlucky in the first innings. If Australia score 400-500, all they’ve done is created a situation for a Saim Special to take place.

A delectable mix of Miandad and Tendulkar?