Yashasvi Jaiswal versus Saim Ayub

[jnaveen1980]

And yet people are putting him > Anwar, Ganguly, Yuvi right off thr bat with zero achievements.

He is the first Jaiswal. He is going to carve his own niche. HE doesn't need comparison. Zero achievements? 3 player of the match awards in T20, 2 player of the match in Tests. One player of the series award. Hit 26 sixes in a single Test series history. Highest by some distance.

Currently playing two formats

World no.3 in Tests
World no.4 in T20Is.

 

[mominsaigol]

gap between India and Pakistan isn't that big historically.

Counting the fact that history is now factoring in 2011 to 2024 which is a good 13 years of history added into the mix as well.

I'd say yes it is

 

[mominsaigol]

He is the first Jaiswal. He is going to carve his own niche. HE doesn't need comparison. Zero achievements? 3 player of the match awards in T20, 2 player of the match in Tests. One player of the series award. Hit 26 sixes in a single Test series history. Highest by some distance.

Currently playing two formats

World no.3 in Tests
World no.4 in T20Is.

If he doesn't need comparison then why are people still commenting on his comparison thread?

 

[RyanRyan10]

Counting the fact that history is now factoring in 2011 to 2024 which is a good 13 years of history added into the mix as well.

I'd say yes it is

Stop trolling. I won't let you Australians insult my Subcontinent brothers.

 

[jnaveen1980]

If he doesn't need comparison then why are people still commenting on his comparison thread?

I didn't start the thread. I also talked about plethora of meaningless comparison threads just for troll purposes. I don't start comaprison threads as it invariably descends into a cesspool.

 

[mominsaigol]

Stop trolling. I won't let you Australians insult my Subcontinent brothers.

Okay

 

[RyanRyan10]

Yes. Stick to the topic of this thread.

 

[nish_mate]

Saim Ayub in his left pinkie has more talent than Jaiswal, and will achieve greater heights if applies his brains.

Sadly the brain's been missing since debut....

 

[kron]

Jaiswal just can't compete with ayub. Doesn't have the raw talent or ability. Jaiswal we all saw vs SA was at sea. Ayub will do much better vs pace and bounce.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Why not compare Jaiswal to an actual proper left handed opener? Travis head?

When Jaiswal ends his career he will leave the likes of Travis Head in the dust, who is nothing but just on a purple patch, 2 years later we can catch up and see where he went.

As always you will bring the argument of world cup final, why not put Head ahead of Tendulkar too considering Tendulkar didn't score a century in WC final

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Brother rana started it when their was no data on either of these 2.

However now that data exists the case shpuld be closed and done and dusted. Not bumped into oblivion anytime saim fails and jaiswal scores.

This thread needs a sequel, Jaiswal vs Travis and I'm probs gonna create one

Please create one, you need to show the world how clueless you are, go ahead.

Riding on Travis Heads recent success has made you totally unaware of the faults he has, he is never gonna average 45 in test cricket, but wait why would you ever analyse him he already has 100 in WC final.

Let's compare him with Gambhir then, who is Heads actual father, scored two match winning innings in two finals and also became number one test batsman in rankings which Travis Head won't achieve in his lifetime

Gambir became number one in tests when the likes of Sachin, Sangakkara, Younis, Sehwag, Clarke, Ponting, Ab, G Smith, Kallis were all playing.

Head is not good enough to tie shoelaces of our Head Coach. The way Gautam Gambhir made our arch rivals cry in the finals is something Head will never achieve.

 

[kron]

When Jaiswal ends his career he will leave the likes of Travis Head in the dust, who is nothing but just on a purple patch, 2 years later we can catch up and see where he went.

As always you will bring the idiotic argument of world cup final, why not put Head ahead of Tendulkar too considering Tendulkar didn't score a century in WC final

But momin Was born In aus though. He can support aus.

But as for the post, I don't know why he is posting about aus being overlords.

T heads numbers overseas in some nations is still poor in tests. Long way to go

Both jassu and head are quality. If jassu played wc 2023 among with hardik then aus ain't winning the WC. Also no pant the aus killer

 

[mominsaigol]

Please create one, you need to show the world how clueless you are, go ahead.

Riding on Travis Heads recent success has made you totally unaware of the faults he has, he is never gonna average 45 in test cricket, but wait why would you ever analyse him he already has 100 in WC final.

Let's compare him with Gambhir then, who is Heads actual father, scored two match winning innings in two finals and also became number one test batsman in rankings which Travis Head won't achieve in his lifetime

Gambir became number one in tests when the likes of Sachin, Sangakkara, Younis, Sehwag, Clarke, Ponting, Ab, G Smith, Kallis were all playing.

Head is not good enough to tie shoelaces of our Head Coach. The way Gautam Gambhir made our arch rivals cry in the finals is something Head will never achieve.

Settle down, Ghambir got kicked out in 2012 which was 12 years ago and he was 30 at that time.

Dhawan replaced him and his career ended at 30

 

[BouncerGuy]

Saim hype-train has been buried under the ground. This guy is not a red-ball player and that is true. Jaiswal is 100 steps ahead of Saim in every format atm and IMO, it will stay the same.

 

[Ab Fan]

Head is just a cheap third class version of AB de Villiers, who at prime was compared to the likes of Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar and Barry Richards.

Jaiswal will surpass him easily. Saim Ayub is a nobody, he plays for Pakistan, enuff said.

 

[mominsaigol]

Head is just a cheap third class version of AB de Villiers, who at prime was compared to the likes of Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar and Barry Richards.

Jaiswal will surpass him easily. Saim Ayub is a nobody, he plays for Pakistan, enuff said.

De villers and viv are far apart lol

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

I hope Saim turns out to be a good player, he is pretty young so even if he gets there in 2-3 years that would be enough.

 

[mominsaigol]

When Jaiswal ends his career he will leave the likes of Travis Head in the dust, who is nothing but just on a purple patch, 2 years later we can catch up and see where he went.

As always you will bring the argument of world cup final, why not put Head ahead of Tendulkar too considering Tendulkar didn't score a century in WC final

Jaiswal is a talented guy, but theirs no guarantee he'll have a succesful career.

I remember you guys jumping on the Gill trend

 

[BouncerGuy]

Jaiswal is a talented guy, but theirs no guarantee he'll have a succesful career.

I remember you guys jumping on the Gill trend

Jaiswal has a better career so far than Saim and I don't this trend changing anytime soon.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Saim Ayub vs Shadman Islam would be more appropriate?

 

[mominsaigol]

Jaiswal has a better career so far than Saim and I don't this trend changing anytime soon.

He'll have a more successful career then Saim yes

 

[kron]

Head is just a cheap third class version of AB de Villiers, who at prime was compared to the likes of Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar and Barry Richards.

Jaiswal will surpass him easily. Saim Ayub is a nobody, he plays for Pakistan, enuff said.

Head is a better match winner than ab ever was. Tbf

According to momin.

Not me. Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[mominsaigol]

Head is a better match winner than ab ever was. Tbf

According to momin.

Not me. Don't shoot the messenger.

He 100% is?

No disrespect to ab, AB talent wise is a 100x > Head and has 360 range of strikes and is the father of unorthodox cricket.

I'd put him in my atg team over Travis.

However de villers is a south African at the end of the day and is a glorified choker. The dude choked more often then not and I still remember 2015 pakistan wc choke.

Travis head is not a choker. Not from any angle. De villers would have never ever scored a century for his country and won the game in a crucial moment like head.

But yes No one can replicate that 100 of 31, no one

 

[kron]

He 100% is?

No disrespect to ab, AB talent wise is a 100x > Head and has 360 range of strikes and is the father of unorthodox cricket.

I'd put him in my atg team over Travis.

However de villers is a south African at the end of the day and is a glorified choker. The dude choked more often then not and I still remember 2015 pakistan wc choke.

Travis head is not a choker. Not from any angle. De villers would have never ever scored a century for his country and won the game in a crucial moment like head.

But yes No one can replicate that 100 of 31, no one

I am just the messenger. I actually agree with you too in LOI. Tests ab definitely is the way better player.

 

[mominsaigol]

I am just the messenger. I actually agree with you too in LOI. Tests ab definitely is the way better player.

Ofcourse he is? Ab I play at no 5 in my atg odi team?

1) Sachin
2) Gilchrist (WK)
3) Pointing/ Virat
4) Viv Richards
5) Ab de villers
^^ That's always my top 5?

 

[kron]

Ofcourse he is? Ab I play at no 5 in my atg odi team?

1) Sachin
2) Gilchrist (WK)
3) Pointing/ Virat
4) Viv Richards
5) Ab de villers
^^ That's always my top 5?

Agreed.

 

[mominsaigol]

Agreed.

Also before people get mad on pointing vs virat. I put pointing in my team over him 100%. Bigger player in cups, much much better odi captain.

Kohli being a better chaser and a better no 3 in bi laterals means nothing. I've seen pointing under pressure and kohli under pressure. Big big difference.

1) Gilchrist (wK)( He's a keeper and an opener so he gets here)
2) Sachin
3) Pointing (C)
4) Viv Richards
5) Ab De villers
6) Jack Kallis
7) Micheal Bevan (Underrated gem, Doesnt get the credit he deserves)
8) Imran Khan/Kapil Dev (Their allrounder capabilities put them here)
9) Shaun Pollock (Maybe a bit low to bat but he's gun with the ball this is one heck if a batting squad)
10) Warne/ Murli
11) Mcgrath

^^ This squad isn't perfect. Feel free to adjust it. Infact I change it every other week lol. Can't ever make up my mind

 

[kron]

Also before people get mad on pointing vs virat. I put pointing in my team over him 100%. Bigger player in cups, much much better odi captain.

Kohli being a better chaser and a better no 3 in bi laterals means nothing. I've seen pointing under pressure and kohli under pressure. Big big difference.

1) Gilchrist (wK)( He's a keeper and an opener so he gets here)
2) Sachin
3) Pointing (C)
4) Viv Richards
5) Ab De villers
6) Jack Kallis
7) Micheal Bevan (Underrated gem, Doesnt get the credit he deserves)
8) Imran Khan/Kapil Dev (Their allrounder capabilities put them here)
9) Shaun Pollock (Maybe a bit low to bat but he's gun with the ball this is one heck if a batting squad)
10) Warne/ Murli
11) Mcgrath

^^ This squad isn't perfect. Feel free to adjust it. Infact I change it every other week lol. Can't ever make up my mind

Would have a bumrah or wasim over polly. Or Garner.
Rest are fine

Yes punter over virat in Loi but just remember ponting never had to face mcg

 

[mominsaigol]

Would have a bumrah or wasim over polly. Or Garner.
Rest are fine

Yes punter over virat in Loi but just remember ponting never had to face mcg

Bumrah over Pollock but Pollock provides one heck of a strong tail? But yes I don't mind Bumrah ahead or Pollock.

As for pointing, he faxed mcgrath in List A multiple times. But yes he sucked against mcgrath, Mcgrath owned his International teammates in List A lol

 

[BouncerGuy]

Thread is not about Bumrah or any other bowler. Please stay on topic.