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Yashasvi Jaiswal versus Saim Ayub

No Pakistani batsman is even close to their Indian counterpart, not worthy of comparison
 
Are they going to play him in all 3 formats or just LOIs? He is more suitable for LOIs inside of his 50s in Tests.
 
In white ball cricket, Saim Ayub is 4-5 times better than Jaiswal.

Jaiswal is better in Test, however.
 
Shafikapeo said:
4-5 times better? I mean who is he Don Bradman of white ball cricket?
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Don Bradman of white ball cricket would be Viv Richards.

I didn't say Saim was the Don Bradman of white ball cricket. I said Saim was better than Jaiswal in white ball cricket.
 
Shafikapeo said:
4-5 times better? I mean who is he Don Bradman of white ball cricket?
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Jaiswal's T20 strike rate is like 160. Oflate he doesn't play T20 much as BCCI is giving chances to new faces. He is still ICC ranked no.7

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sweep_shot said:
Don Bradman of white ball cricket would be Viv Richards.

I didn't say Saim was the Don Bradman of white ball cricket. I said Saim was better than Jaiswal in white ball cricket.
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First of all, Yashasvi Jaiswal hasn’t played an ODI yet, so comparing him with Saim Ayub without any basis doesn’t make sense. In T20s, Jaiswal has an average of 36.15. Claiming that someone is 4-5 times better would imply an average of 144.6-180.75. Does Saim Ayub have an average anywhere close to that?
 
Jaiswal is ahead. Way way way ahead infact.

However saim can catch up. Gap isn't as high in whiteball as it seems.

In test I don't think saim will catchup. Jaiswal will probs retire as the superior test cricketer.
 
mominsaigol said:
Jaiswal is ahead. Way way way ahead infact.

However saim can catch up. Gap isn't as high in whiteball as it seems.

In test I don't think saim will catchup. Jaiswal will probs retire as the superior test cricketer.
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Jaiswal doesn't even play white ball lmao

He should though soon when fat bum and old bum that lives in uk leave.
 
sweep_shot said:
Don Bradman of white ball cricket would be Viv Richards.

I didn't say Saim was the Don Bradman of white ball cricket. I said Saim was better than Jaiswal in white ball cricket.
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But jaissu doesn't play white ball.lol
 
Shafikapeo said:
I was talking about Saim Ayub not Yashasvi Jaiswal in my previous comment
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Saim has jumped 48 spots after one innings. Now ranked 57. If he continues he can break into top 10 ranking soon as it is easier to do when you are at the start of your career. But if he wants to grow as a batsman he should temporarily quit T20 and focus on slightly longer formats.
 
Hawkeye said:
These kind of comparisons have only one outcome.

Indian batters will always outperform any upcoming Pakistani talent.

Sad but true.

We have seen dozens of comparison threads here.

Umar Akmal vs. Kohli
Ahmed Shehzad vs. Kohli
Umar Amin vs. Rohit Sharma
Haris Sohail vs. KL
Asad Shafiq vs. KL Rahul

And finally Pakistan’s best batsman:

Babar Azam vs. Kohli

Do you see the trend?

They are a batting powerhouse. They’ll always take the lead because of better coaching, culture and local competition.

Pakistan on the other hand often takes the lead when it comes to upcoming bowlers and their comparisons.

Saim Ayub has a lot to prove in ODIs and Tests.
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That’s a sweeping statement. Since his debut, Babar Azam has outperformed most Indian batters except Kohli and Rohit.
 
In my view T20 has spoilt Jaiswal somewhat. He plays way too many shots upfront. He won't do even in first class. Suddenly at test level he is playing way too many shots upfront. So if Saim doesn't play T20 fans shouldn't be disappointed. This format can ruin your game.
 
kron said:
Jaiswal doesn't even play white ball lmao

He should though soon when fat bum and old bum that lives in uk leave.
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Whiteball includes t20 as well.

I can see saim catching up in t20 and when jaiswal plays odi I can see saim being ahead. It'll be difficult though.

Test not a chance.

Anyway with that being said, Saim and jaiswal are technically solid for such young guns. Very rare to see since lots of young bloods aren't technically proficient.

Even brooks has techincal flaws against spin.
 
Saim’s humbleness could take him places.

Don’t think humble is a word found in many cash rich modern Indian players’ dictionary.

They find the ball coming too slow sometimes
 
jaiswal will be a better test and t20 batter but Saim will be better in ODIs. Save this.
 
gazza619 said:
Saim’s humbleness could take him places.

Don’t think humble is a word found in many cash rich modern Indian players’ dictionary.

They find the ball coming too slow sometimes
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It was in response Starc's retort to Harshit Rana. Starc said to Rana "i bowl quicker than you" or something like that when starc was batting. At the end of the day first Ganguly then Kohli started this aggression against Australia. Guess what happened to meek captains in Australia. White wash. MS Dhoni, Sachin. Indian players are openly encouraged in dressing room to give it back. Nothing to do with "humbleness".
 
Farabi said:
jaiswal will be a better test and t20 batter but Saim will be better in ODIs. Save this.
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Not sure how you can say that. In the under-19 world cup Jaiswal was the highest run getter. Made an 88 in the u19 wc final. Only guy to score some runs.

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ALso made a 100 against Pakistan in the same U19 world cup. He averages 53 in List A.

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jnaveen1980 said:
Not sure how you can say that. In the under-19 world cup Jaiswal was the highest run getter. Made an 88 in the u19 wc final. Only guy to score some runs.

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ALso made a 100 against Pakistan in the same U19 world cup. He averages 53 in List A.

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You left out the strike rate? Whats his strike rate in List A? That’s maybe why India hasn’t debuted Jaiswal yet in ODIs. He’s more organized and has a superior power game than Saim Ayub today. But it is my hunch based on having seen both play. You have every right to disagree on a prediction lol
 
Farabi said:
You left out the strike rate? Whats his strike rate in List A? That’s maybe why India hasn’t debuted Jaiswal yet in ODIs. He’s more organized and has a superior power game than Saim Ayub today. But it is my hunch based on having seen both play. You have every right to disagree on a prediction lol
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Jaiswal's strike rate is 86. He has played less list A than First class. Nothing to do with strike rate. India had Rahul, Rohit sharma, Gill. That is why he couldn't find a spot. THey don't want him to use as a middle order batsman. A guy who has a strike rate of 164 in T20 internationas, 68 in Tests, 67 in first class, 150 in T20 domestic will struggle in strike rate in ODIs? lol He has hit 38 sixes in 17 tests. Has record number of sixes in a single Test series. 26 sixes in one series. Many can't hit that many even in ODI/T20 series.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
It was in response Starc's retort to Harshit Rana. Starc said to Rana "i bowl quicker than you" or something like that when starc was batting. At the end of the day first Ganguly then Kohli started this aggression against Australia. Guess what happened to meek captains in Australia. White wash. MS Dhoni, Sachin. Indian players are openly encouraged in dressing room to give it back. Nothing to do with "humbleness".
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In a banter between two fast bowlers, a batter had no business getting involved.

I liked Ganguly’s aggression. Kohli has never been stupid enough to banter a fast bowler when he was batting.

The newbies of Indian cricket need some education of when to be aggressive. Siraj already made a fool of himself recently.
 
gazza619 said:
Saim’s humbleness could take him places.
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His modesty during his lean phase wasn’t appreciated, so how now did you come to the conclusion that his humility will take him places?

Remember, “Saim Ayub, no controversies, no look, no talent”.
 
Rana said:
His modesty during his lean phase wasn’t appreciated, so how now did you come to the conclusion that his humility will take him places?

Remember, “Saim Ayub, no controversies, no look, no talent”.
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He talks about Siraj making a fool of himself - pottle kettle black moment
 
Rana said:
His modesty during his lean phase wasn’t appreciated, so how now did you come to the conclusion that his humility will take him places?

Remember, “Saim Ayub, no controversies, no look, no talent”.
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I got it wrong about Saim. I accept. Accepting is maturity

Waiting for you to accept your shortcomings now.
 
Markhor said:
I see more Sharjeel Khan than Saeed Anwar
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This is correct. There are so many shots Saim plays that are reminiscent of Sharjeel

Pakistan fans don’t really understand cricket. To them, Sharjeel is a hack because they don’t like him. Why don’t they like him?

It’s because Imad Wasim preferred Sharjeel over Rizwan in the season where KK won the PSL, with Rizwan on the bench.

In reality, Saim is indeed a junior and more potent version of Sharjeel.

I don’t care if this causes heartburn to people. I have always said it as it is!
 
All these comparisons are futile.

Jaiswal's 160 at Perth is already bigger than anything Saim would get in his entire career.

He is a better Test and T20 batter than anyone in Pakistan right now let alone Saim Ayub.

And the funny thing is...ODI is most probably his best format. And the moment he makes his debut there, even that comparison would end up in tears.
 
Rana said:
I will never be wrong about Rizwan. God is my witness.
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Yes it was amazing how you predicted disaster for Pakistan under Riz’s captaincy. You also got it spot on about Azam Khan, Asif Ali (future captain) & Sharjeel.
 
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Jaiswal T20i sr of 161 and India are not yet fully deploying him in this format
 
gazza619 said:
Yes it was amazing how you predicted disaster for Pakistan under Riz’s captaincy. You also got it spot on about Azam Khan, Asif Ali (future captain) & Sharjeel.
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Say all you want. At the end of the day, even you know I will be proven right.
 
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Hopefully Saim does really well, it makes cricket very interesting but all fans that are hyping him are probably the same that have hyping batsmen in Pakistan since 2000s specifically against Indian batsmen and only Babar somewhat seems to have done better.

I don’t know if Saim will be better but don’t think he will be 4-5 times the white ball player compared to Jaiswal.

For Indians definitely he is the most promising batsman in a decade.
 
mominsaigol said:
Neither was saqlain. Infact saqlain was way more connected.
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None of them were from really really poor families. They were all struggling I suppose like most of Pakistan in general, but it’s not like there really has been some paupers making their way all to the top.

There are stories about Mohammad Yousuf being from a very poor background but besides him I’ve not heard or seen much.
 
Both have a long way to go.

Based on what I've seen, Jaiswal is the better batsman.

He will have a great career, and his early Test exploits show that. However, Saim Ayub is also talented and is a great find for Pakistan.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Jaiswal's strike rate is 86. He has played less list A than First class. Nothing to do with strike rate. India had Rahul, Rohit sharma, Gill. That is why he couldn't find a spot. THey don't want him to use as a middle order batsman. A guy who has a strike rate of 164 in T20 internationas, 68 in Tests, 67 in first class, 150 in T20 domestic will struggle in strike rate in ODIs? lol He has hit 38 sixes in 17 tests. Has record number of sixes in a single Test series. 26 sixes in one series. Many can't hit that many even in ODI/T20 series.
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Having a high strike rate in one format doesn’t guarantee success in another. For example, Rizwan averages 50 with a strike rate of 130 in T20Is, but if he could replicate that in ODIs, he’d already be an all-time great. That’s just not how it works. As of now, we only have List A data to evaluate. Saim Ayub’s List A strike rate has consistently hovered around 110 with a comparable sample size.

I don’t understand the defensiveness here. Acknowledging Jaiswal as top-tier talent doesn’t mean we should assume he’s better than Saim Ayub in ODIs without any evidence. Saim has already delivered two centuries against South Africa’s setup and a match-winning 88 against Australia’s full-strength attack—all in just 10 games. These performances are the kind most Asian batters build their careers around.
 
Rana said:
None of them were from really really poor families. They were all struggling I suppose like most of Pakistan in general, but it’s not like there really has been some paupers making their way all to the top.

There are stories about Mohammad Yousuf being from a very poor background but besides him I’ve not heard or seen much.
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Rags to riches is impossible. Their isnt a single rags to riches story on the planet.

Proper rags are those kids in Africa with barely any clothing, shelter and food working as slave labors cough nestle cough. Or refugees seeking asylum cause they came from bloodbath war torn countries.

What people say rags, they mean lower income families who although poor, still have some family support system, some shelter system and what not.

I'm not trying to discredit anyone, as going from lower class to insanely rich is a huge huge huge achievement, but Rags to riches does not exist. If you have basic needs met aka food( you're not malnourished), shelter, or clothing( you ain't walking around like most gypsies) then you're not a rags to riches story
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Saim has jumped 48 spots after one innings. Now ranked 57. If he continues he can break into top 10 ranking soon as it is easier to do when you are at the start of your career. But if he wants to grow as a batsman he should temporarily quit T20 and focus on slightly longer formats.
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And who's denying that? But when it comes to comparison we need stats right?
 
Farabi said:
jaiswal will be a better test and t20 batter but Saim will be better in ODIs. Save this.
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This is the same South Africa that lost to Ireland in an ODI at home and the same team against whom Sanju Samson scored 107 and Tilak Varma played innings of 107 and 120 runs. Recently, the South African team has not been performing well in white-ball cricket.

While Saim Ayub deserves credit for his performances, he needs to face more matches against a variety of teams. If he maintains this level of consistency, his stats will eventually prove how talented a batsman he is. As for Yashasvi Jaiswal, he still has a lot to prove as well.
 
Shafikapeo said:
This is the same South Africa that lost to Ireland in an ODI at home and the same team against whom Sanju Samson scored 107 and Tilak Varma played innings of 107 and 120 runs. Recently, the South African team has not been performing well in white-ball cricket.

While Saim Ayub deserves credit for his performances, he needs to face more matches against a variety of teams. If he maintains this level of consistency, his stats will eventually prove how talented a batsman he is. As for Yashasvi Jaiswal, he still has a lot to prove as well.
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Losing an ODI to Ireland is irrelevant. SA was missing couple of key bowlers but it’s still a top tier team at home.
I rate S Samson and Tilak Varma as top shelf too. India probably has 4-5 Saim level talents if not more.
No one is saying that Saim Ayub is a world legend. The post was about what could be not what is.
 
Indian posters like @Shafikapeo wants me to say Jaiswal is better than Saim in ODI cricket.

Last few months have demonstrated Saim is a way better option when it comes to ODI format. As a matter of fact, Jaiswal is yet to make his ODI debut.
 
Farabi said:
Losing an ODI to Ireland is irrelevant. SA was missing couple of key bowlers but it’s still a top tier team at home.
I rate S Samson and Tilak Varma as top shelf too. India probably has 4-5 Saim level talents if not more.
No one is saying that Saim Ayub is a world legend. The post was about what could be not what is.
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I believe that losing a couple of key players shouldn’t prevent a top-tier team from winning against a minnow at home. But, anyway, we were discussing Saim Ayub’s potential, right? While potential is important, it’s the performance against top-tier teams that truly reveals a player's caliber. Without facing strong opposition, it’s hard to gauge how a player will perform in international cricket. We can talk about a player's potential, but their true value is proven through consistent performances in high-pressure situations against the best.
 
gazza619 said:
In a banter between two fast bowlers, a batter had no business getting involved.

I liked Ganguly’s aggression. Kohli has never been stupid enough to banter a fast bowler when he was batting.

The newbies of Indian cricket need some education of when to be aggressive. Siraj already made a fool of himself recently.
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Siraj is aggressive towards everyone. Even in IPL, domestic matches he doesn't mind sledging players. He tries to rev himself up by deliberately putting himself in such situation. Whole idea is not to score a point. It is the idea to mess with the ego of player. I remember Mcgrath bowling bouncers to Sachin and if he ducks he will ask him to play pull shot by making a gesture. Siraj did have his moments at the Gabba last time we toured. But now he is down on pace. Not hitting 140k regularly. So it kinda looks silly if the batsman doesn't make mistake.
 
Farabi said:
Having a high strike rate in one format doesn’t guarantee success in another. For example, Rizwan averages 50 with a strike rate of 130 in T20Is, but if he could replicate that in ODIs, he’d already be an all-time great. That’s just not how it works. As of now, we only have List A data to evaluate. Saim Ayub’s List A strike rate has consistently hovered around 110 with a comparable sample size.

I don’t understand the defensiveness here. Acknowledging Jaiswal as top-tier talent doesn’t mean we should assume he’s better than Saim Ayub in ODIs without any evidence. Saim has already delivered two centuries against South Africa’s setup and a match-winning 88 against Australia’s full-strength attack—all in just 10 games. These performances are the kind most Asian batters build their careers around.
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Jaiswal by nature is an aggressive batsman. At this point Gill is the one you should compare him with. Gill already has double century in ODI. His strike rate is 101.74 average is 58.20 in ODIs. 6 centuries 13 fifties in 47 matches. 259 fours 52 sixes. For what its worth Jaiswal > Gill. So he is going to out do Gill in ODI format. Even as an 18 year old batsman Jaiswal smashed Hazlewood for 3 sixes scoring 22 runs in one over he announced himself. He has an insane top gear something everyone is aware of. He holds the IPL record for fastest 50 as well. He is not a limited batsman like some of the guys who can be contained.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Jaiswal by nature is an aggressive batsman. At this point Gill is the one you should compare him with. Gill already has double century in ODI. His strike rate is 101.74 average is 58.20 in ODIs. 6 centuries 13 fifties in 47 matches. 259 fours 52 sixes. For what its worth Jaiswal > Gill. So he is going to out do Gill in ODI format. Even as an 18 year old batsman Jaiswal smashed Hazlewood for 3 sixes scoring 22 runs in one over he announced himself. He has an insane top gear something everyone is aware of. He holds the IPL record for fastest 50 as well. He is not a limited batsman like some of the guys who can be contained.
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I completely agree—Jaiswal is a phenomenal talent, no question about it. When he eventually debuts in ODIs and starts delivering, I’ll be the first to acknowledge his brilliance.

Right now, however, it’s all conjecture. The Indian selectors currently seem to think Gill is a superior option, which is why they’re backing them. Gill did have a better List A strike rate than Jaiswal’s. You’re entitled to your opinion, of course, but it’s clear that the Indian cricket leadership has more faith in others for ODIs at the moment.
 
Farabi said:
I completely agree—Jaiswal is a phenomenal talent, no question about it. When he eventually debuts in ODIs and starts delivering, I’ll be the first to acknowledge his brilliance.

Right now, however, it’s all conjecture. The Indian selectors currently seem to think Gill is a superior option, which is why they’re backing them. Gill did have a better List A strike rate than Jaiswal’s. You’re entitled to your opinion, of course, but it’s clear that the Indian cricket leadership has more faith in others for ODIs at the moment.
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Personally India can find so many ODI players. There are way too many coming through. But it is very very hard to find a good Test batsman. I wish Jaiswal having a great Test career as against ODI career.
 
Jaiswal is untested at ODI level as he is yet to make his ODI debut. I also believe Jaiswal may not do that great in ODI. He was a slowpoke at U19 World Cup final where India U19 lost to BD U19. Here was the scorecard: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-india-under-19s-final-1204722/full-scorecard.

Saim is a far better option when it comes to ODI.

Even in T20, I say Jaiswal's stats are inflated. He scored a 49-ball century against Nepal which boosted his strike-rate. You can see the statistics here: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...re;template=results;type=batting;view=innings.
 
sweep_shot said:
Jaiswal is untested at ODI level as he is yet to make his ODI debut. I also believe Jaiswal may not do that great in ODI. He was a slowpoke at U19 World Cup final where India U19 lost to BD U19. Here was the scorecard: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-india-under-19s-final-1204722/full-scorecard.

Saim is a far better option when it comes to ODI.

Even in T20, I say Jaiswal's stats are inflated. He scored a 49-ball century against Nepal which boosted his strike-rate. You can see the statistics here: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...re;template=results;type=batting;view=innings.
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That's why u were asked to add logic to ur context by all the posters.he scored 53 at 212 SR against aus with in pp .its much higher sr than nepal .
 
Such a terrible argument to make in favour of Saim when Jaiswal clearly has better t20I stats and has not played ODIS. Almost deliberately making it so that posters attack Saim.

Anyway Saim has the higher ceiling for mine. He has shots that Jaiswal doesn't and also mentors in Babar and Rizwan that Jaiswal doesn't. The numbers support Jaiswal but I am confident that Saim will have them soon enough.
 
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Savak said:
They were not from well to do families and their families could not afford to support their cricket playing ambitions.
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That’s the story of 95% of these players

I’ve heard that interview where Shoaib tells his story of saving his money for the day to eat in the evening having trained/trialed all day. That’s what most of these cricketers had to do once they left their homes, cities, villages to pursue their dreams. That being said, these people were all from a working class demographic where the men in the family worked hard to earn their bread like most people do. They don’t complain about not having a lot, they always are thankful and satisfied for what they have. Nearly all of them have some kind of set up where they would be able to send one or two of the young men in the family abroad to find work and make more money to send back home.


You made it sound like Shoaib and Saqlain came from shanti towns or favelas
 
mominsaigol said:
Whiteball includes t20 as well.

I can see saim catching up in t20 and when jaiswal plays odi I can see saim being ahead. It'll be difficult though.

Test not a chance.

Anyway with that being said, Saim and jaiswal are technically solid for such young guns. Very rare to see since lots of young bloods aren't technically proficient.

Even brooks has techincal flaws against spin.
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I just have the feeling jaiswal will be like head in odi. He will help us win a icc title. Mark my words.

In t20 i dont know. I believe t20 is actually jaissu's weakest format.

I feel jaissu will be better than saim in all formats tbh. Even long term.
 
kron said:
I just have the feeling jaiswal will be like head in odi. He will help us win a icc title. Mark my words.

In t20 i dont know. I believe t20 is actually jaissu's weakest format.
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Weakest format with a 160sr?

He is a better option than Abhishek to open.

Jaiswal will kill strong bowling attacks in the powerplay. He’s the Samoa Joe of T20 openers.
 
JaDed said:
They are implying when Jaiswal plays he won’t be as good
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I am sorry I just don't see it.

Jaiswal will be better in all formats. Pakistanis get excited for flashes in the pan often.

Saim is very good for odi but I still believe jaiswal will eclipse him with relative ease in odi. Tests no question

T20 is his weakest format but I would still pick jaissu.
 
Rana said:
Weakest format with a 160sr?

He is a better option than Abhishek to open.

Jaiswal will kill strong bowling attacks in the powerplay. He’s the Samoa Joe of T20 openers.
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Just basing it on what I have seen. I rate him higher in tests and definitely odi. In terms of his skills.
 
kron said:
Just basing it on what I have seen. I rate him higher in tests and definitely odi. In terms of his skills.
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In Tests he’s on a golden run atm but there will be times when doubts will creep in. Just the nature of the game. Needs to be backed at the time, that’s all it is.

I’ve seen him a lot in T20s in IPL and for India. For me, he does a good job, or intends to do the right job. Plays with the correct intention.

It sickens me to see the way Gill, Kohli, KL Rahul, Raturaj Gaikwad and others who I can’t think of now intend to play in T20s. I despise Gaikwad the most, he is the Indian Rizwan.
 
Rana said:
In Tests he’s on a golden run atm but there will be Rahul, Raturaj Gaikwad and others who I can’t think of now intend to play in T20s. I despise Gaikwad the most, he is the Indian Rizwan.
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He is thorough and thorough rizbar in every context.cant score out side ,can't score against quality opponents and can't exceed 130 sr in t20s.He has a large pr team to defend him and ridicule every other contender for his spot.
 
sweep_shot said:
That 160 strike-rate was boosted by his 49-ball century against Nepal and 53-ball 90+ against Zimbabwe.

Check stats.

His international T20 stats are inflated due to playing minnows and depleted sides --> https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...re;template=results;type=batting;view=innings.
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Remove that innings against Nepal and Zimbabwe, his SR stands at 157.51

Next criteria please?


Link: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting
 
Lol his U-19 final is being brought as a reason for being worse than Saim, Jaiswal was Mos in that tournament lol
 
JaDed said:
Next Criteria is ICC tournaments , because he scored slow in u-19 final (Player of the tournament though) he will not be able to play ODIs as Saim -E-Sobers.
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Next U-Turn would be how his average drops when his innings against Nepal and Zimbabwe are taken out, when he was specifically speaking about his SR in particular.
 
Jaiswal is still ahead of saim. Saim has just got his feet in the game. Jaiswal is more established atm. I think Jaiswal will do good in ODIs as well. He needs to be given chance.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Jaiswal is still ahead of saim. Saim has just got his feet in the game. Jaiswal is more established atm. I think Jaiswal will do good in ODIs as well. He needs to be given chance.
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Pretty close to be honest. Both have a lot going on for them and this this comparison will be the one to watch out for unlike some ridiculous comparisons before.

Both talented young batsmen who can do wonders but it's nit always about talent. Would be interesting to watch who keeps his head and make a name for themselves and their country .
 
if u take out his 161 then he has only scored 22 runs in 5 innings inthe aus series.That 161 was scoerd when the pitch had become as flat as rawalpind and even a struggling vk scored a ton in the nz series when spinning wickeys were produced,he failed miserably.
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jaiswal is a ftb and goes hiding on spinning or seaming wickets
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jamie smith said:
if u take out his 161 then he has only scored 22 runs in 5 innings inthe aus series.That 161 was scoerd when the pitch had become as flat as rawalpind and even a struggling vk scored a ton in the nz series when spinning wickeys were produced,he failed miserably.
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Are we forgetting the England series?
 
jamie smith said:
also forgot to add sa sreies where he could muster 50 runs in 4 innings
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But how is that relevant, Saim has failed vs Ban in home conditions and against England too.

Even if Jaiswal hasn’t scored well in SA, that doesn’t make him worse than Saim.

Th160 odd was nade when Australia couldn’t make 300, he did well against the new ball and looked solid throughout the innings.
 
Both players are impressive, but Jaiswal has a slight edge, likely due to the country he plays for. However, Saim's level-headedness is a significant advantage that will serve him well in his career
 
i never told saim is better or saim is best.jaiswal is good but he is not as good as u indians claim,u have hyped him to the moon and dont forget he scored 3 successive ducks against starc
jeeteshssaxena said:
But how is that relevant, Saim has failed vs Ban in home conditions and against England too.

Even if Jaiswal hasn’t scored well in SA, that doesn’t make him worse than Saim.

Th160 odd was nade when Australia couldn’t make 300, he did well against the new ball and looked solid throughout the innings.
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jeeteshssaxena said:
But how is that relevant, Saim has failed vs Ban in home conditions and against England too.

Even if Jaiswal hasn’t scored well in SA, that doesn’t make him worse than Saim.

Th160 odd was nade when Australia couldn’t make 300, he did well against the new ball and looked solid throughout the innings.
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can u tell me about a single good innings that jaiswal has played when the pitch wasnt flat.he failed against nz,sa and now vs aus apart from that 161 which he scored when the pitch had turned into a phatta,he has nothing to show and he couldnt even cross single digit scores in the remaining inninigs
 
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