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Yashasvi Jaiswal versus Saim Ayub

Only young Indian cricketer I have massive expectation from! fingers crossed, hope management keeps him got a bit.
 
JaDed said:
Only young Indian cricketer I have massive expectation from! fingers crossed, hope management keeps him got a bit.
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We have some promising lefty batting talents now, Jaiswal, Rinku, Sundar, Sai, Tilak. Pant will soon be back. Exciting times ahead.
 
Swashbuckler said:
We have some promising lefty batting talents now, Jaiswal, Rinku, Sundar, Sai, Tilak. Pant will soon be back. Exciting times ahead.
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The more I look of Tilak, the more I think he is limited in his strokes. He is a predominantly legside player. He struggles to score through the offside. Hence plays too many dot balls.
Sai Sudarshan I think has the potential to be an Indian great.
Pant is still unproven in LOI cricket.
Rinku is also extremely good. He also has the potential to be an Indian great.
Jaiswal is a bit too reckless in his stroke play. Works in LOI cricket. But in Tests, he needs to be curb his aggression. Needs a few more games to settle down.
Sundar should take Jaddu's spot soon. Jaddu is on his last legs. He is done in LOI cricket. Still has utility in Tests in subcontinent.
 
Don't know about Ayub batting but he is likely to lost a test match for Pakistan by his fielding
 
This could be another matchup like Babar and Kohli in the future

both saim and jaiswal are very talented, bright future ahead!

But I personally think that Saim has a wider range of shots compared to Jaiswal
 
Cricket Warrior said:
This could be another matchup like Babar and Kohli in the future

both saim and jaiswal are very talented, bright future ahead!

But I personally think that Saim has a wider range of shots compared to Jaiswal
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Jaiswal is a fine stroke player. Still remember how he murdered Hazlewood in the IPL 2 years back. Hitting 3 sixes and a 4 in consescutive balls all over the park. He is a dangerous player when in zone. He also has outstanding first class temperament to build an innings.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
That is what helped him more compare to saim
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I never judge these players based on flashy stroke play. Otherwise Prithvi shaw would still be glorified. There are few other technical aspects one has to look into judge a player. Sometimes good players develop bad habits. Gill looked very compact during under-19 days. Nowadays he is too loose with his shots. Always has the urge to feel the ball which more often that leads to his demise.
 
Markhor said:
Good stuff. I hope we don't coach the aggression out of him.

There's a 5 match T20I series in New Zealand in January and he should be opening in all. Please no more Babar-Rizwan opening combination in meaningless bilaterals.
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Saim Ayub opening and 2 sixes and a boundary already. First time he's playing in NZ too. He's absolutely the real deal.
 
Hes a league above any batter who has played less than 20 international games.
 
Rana said:
I still don’t think he is better than Jaiswal atm
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No bro!

His shot selections are way ahead compared to Jaiswal.

Let him play a few more innings he will further gain confidence and will come up with more excellence.
 
Could be a great comparison in future. Who'll be better? Saim looks a million dollar
 
Jaiswal has multiple gears. He is the same guy who smashed 3 sixes and a four of one over from Hazlewood two years back. He also took his time in various phases of test match to make a debut 100. He also made the quickest half century in IPL history. He also scored a matured 80 in the under-19 world cup final when wickets were tumbling around him.
 
What I loved about Saim today was that it seemed like he was on a mission to get all the runs himself, as if he knew inside that the rest of the team are hopeless if he doesn’t swing hard from ball 1.

Just needs to add some character and confidence in his personality too, a bit too quiet and shy for my liking.
 
Saim started with a bang, had he was not run-out there, we would have seen some fabulous shots from him. Unlucky guy.
 
Too early to say who is better .let's them play for a year .
Jaiswal already have a test hundred and a T20 hundred.
Jaiswal has all the shot if people's are don't know than watch him .
Big test awaited for jaiswal in upcoming test series.
 
Devadwal said:
Too early to say who is better .let's them play for a year .
Jaiswal already have a test hundred and a T20 hundred.
Jaiswal has all the shot if people's are don't know than watch him .
Big test awaited for jaiswal in upcoming test series.
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I agree. People start making comparisons when a player is making his debut with a player who has already some name in the international arena. Jaiswal is somewhat permanent with the Indian squad and Saim has just been introduced to the internationals. Let's wait for some time.
 
shamaan said:
He wont be consistent yet but he is going to play some breath taking Innnings.
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The innings he played yesterday had some fabulous shots in it. He is surely one for the future and should be kept in the side for some time to give him more confidence.
 
Jaiswal is the superior technical batsman but has some issues with his shot selection. I think he will tighten that up with experience and is then going to put up huge numbers in international cricket.

Ayub seems more expressive and assertive but is more than capable of matching Jaiswal in the future depending on how he develops. He's got all of the raw qualities needed in a good batsman.
 
Regardless of talent comparison, both are very different in nature as humans.

Jaiswal looks cold blooded and filled with rage.

Ayub just comes across as a nice, soft guy.
 
Rana said:
Regardless of talent comparison, both are very different in nature as humans.

Jaiswal looks cold blooded and filled with rage.

Ayub just comes across as a nice, soft guy.
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Both will play for their countries for long long time.
 
Rana said:
Regardless of talent comparison, both are very different in nature as humans.

Jaiswal looks cold blooded and filled with rage.

Ayub just comes across as a nice, soft guy.
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Jaiswal is need some power .he need to build his muscles
 
This will go the way of every Pakistani v Indian batsman comparison.

Ayub looks good and should have a prolific international career but he doesn’t stand a chance against Jaiswal who is an Indian stalwart in the making.
 
Whenever there is a comparison thread of an Indian and Pakistani batter, I am reminded of the legendary Umar Akmal and Virat Kohli thread.
 
I'm not usually a comparisons guy but this seems like the only reasonable comparison of a Pakistani batsman with an Indian one on PP. Both are immensely talented. Those suggesting Saim is somehow inferior don't know anything about batting. I'm excited for this contest.
 
I wouldn't mind being proven wrong or whatever but Ayub looks to me a copy of Ishan Kishan. In fact I checked their record just now and it's uncanny how identical their records are across all formats.
 
AMSS said:
I wouldn't mind being proven wrong or whatever but Ayub looks to me a copy of Ishan Kishan. In fact I checked their record just now and it's uncanny how identical their records are across all formats.
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Kishan doesn't have the time against pace that Saim has and Saim is 4 years younger.
 
Mamoon said:
This will go the way of every Pakistani v Indian batsman comparison.

Ayub looks good and should have a prolific international career but he doesn’t stand a chance against Jaiswal who is an Indian stalwart in the making.
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Indian batting stocks are overrated, just have a look at the useless Gill, hyped to the moon but will in all likelihood end up as the worst ever international cricketer from India, I rate DK above that clown, at least DK won us a test series in England. Same with Prithvi Shaw, Sanju Samson, Unmukt Chand etc, this generation's (especially post 2013) Indian batsmen are useless in every facet, and in every format. It will be clear once Kohli and Rohit retire.

England, Australia are better benchmarks. Pakistani fans should aim higher.
 
Another failure for saim Ayub .scored 1(6) against NZ in 4th T20 .
He failed to impress in the whole series after from 7 balls
 
If we compare their career beginnings so Jaiswal started with a bang and is flying high but Saim seems to be in a shell on the international level.

Still I believe Saim is a talent that we find once in a blue moon all he needs is a confidence.
 
FearlessRoar said:
It's useless to compare both. Both are different kinds of batters.
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No they are not both are very attacking batsmens, but jaiswal is several levels ahead of Saim ayub and this will only increase as their move ahead in their career.
 
Yashasvi is showing who is going to dominate for next decade.
Yashasvi Jaiswal scored 179* on Day 1 when no one else even scored 35....
 
I think this kid should be kept away from LOIs. He is a rare batsman with mix of test match temperament and modern aggression. If he plays T20 a lot he will end up ruining his Test game. Not sure how this can be addressed as he has to make money as well.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I think this kid should be kept away from LOIs. He is a rare batsman with mix of test match temperament and modern aggression. If he plays T20 a lot he will end up ruining his Test game. Not sure how this can be addressed as he has to make money as well.
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But he is probably India’s most destructive T20 batsman of pace too.

Sky is good for his position. Rohit is good when he gets going. Jaiswal can hit 5th gear from ball one.
 
No comparison at the moment. Just look at the stats/impact Jaiswal has had so far. Until our players stop playing every single low level T20 leauge, they will not develop. Our players play way too less red ball cricket in order to actually become better. Just look at the number of national team players from Pak are playing T20 cricket.
 
Mamoon said:
This will go the way of every Pakistani v Indian batsman comparison.

Ayub looks good and should have a prolific international career but he doesn’t stand a chance against Jaiswal who is an Indian stalwart in the making.
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Ayub will never be worthy of lacing Jaiswal’s boots.

Jaiswal is better than the likes of Saeed Anwar and Ganguly, let alone Ayub.
 
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Mamoon said:
Ayub will never be worthy of lacing Jaiswal’s boots.

Jaiswal is better than the likes of Saeed Anwar and Ganguly, let alone Ayub.
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U should be a bit more patient in comparing young Indian batsmen to greats.
Prithiv Tendulkar and Shubman Richards haven't quite lived up to your expectations uet
 
Ahmed216 said:
U should be a bit more patient in comparing young Indian batsmen to greats.
Prithiv Tendulkar and Shubman Richards haven't quite lived up to your expectations uet
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Shaw is simply unlucky because he is competing with other generational players like Gill and Jaiswal while legends like Kohli and Rohit are still around.

If Shaw was in Pakistan he would already be a superstar. He is a fabulous player and his time will come once Kohli and Rohit retire.

Gill is having a lean period. Happens to everyone. Pakistani fans are writing him off but these fans never learn. By the time Gill retires, his legacy will be greater than any Pakistani batsman in history.
 
Mamoon said:
Shaw is simply unlucky because he is competing with other generational players like Gill and Jaiswal while legends like Kohli and Rohit are still around.

If Shaw was in Pakistan he would already be a superstar. He is a fabulous player and his time will come once Kohli and Rohit retire.

Gill is having a lean period. Happens to everyone. Pakistani fans are writing him off but these fans never learn. By the time Gill retires, his legacy will be greater than any Pakistani batsman in history.
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Even Indian fans will struggle to agree with your perception of Shaw. He leaves a foot-wide gap between bat and pad. See his dismissals at test level.
Gill's got a pathetic footwork that's why he has only scored on extremely flat pitches so far.
But yes being Indian makes them comparable to Richards 😃
 
Guys, this thread is for Yashasvi Jaiswal and Saim Ayub. For Prithvi Shaw, we have a separate thread.
 
Both are like babies in international cricket. Jaiswal is getting consistent chances at the top. Ayub is still fighting for his place. It’s too early to judge their careers at this point.

Jaiswal is off the tracks like a cheetah so far. Ayub may take some time as he is supremely talented too. Ayub has also shown flashes of his talent.
We will have to wait at least a year before we pass on judgements.
 
Jaiswal is showing his class on the field at the other end Saim is trying to become more stylish while playing his no look shots!
 
Champ_Pal said:
Both are like babies in international cricket. Jaiswal is getting consistent chances at the top. Ayub is still fighting for his place. It’s too early to judge their careers at this point.

Jaiswal is off the tracks like a cheetah so far. Ayub may take some time as he is supremely talented too. Ayub has also shown flashes of his talent.
We will have to wait at least a year before we pass on judgements.
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There is no need of waiting for a single day. Jaiswal will always be miles ahead of Ayub.

Jaiswal is better than Saeed Anwar let alone Ayub.
 
Ahmed216 said:
Even Indian fans will struggle to agree with your perception of Shaw. He leaves a foot-wide gap between bat and pad. See his dismissals at test level.
Gill's got a pathetic footwork that's why he has only scored on extremely flat pitches so far.
But yes being Indian makes them comparable to Richards 😃
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Did you enjoy watching Gill bat in this Test? As I always say, Pakistani fans will never learn.
 
Mamoon said:
Did you enjoy watching Gill bat in this Test? As I always say, Pakistani fans will never learn.
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Have u seen Sai Sudharshan ? He played in SA and Performed brilliantly against them in odi's on pace tracks(against 145 plus bowlers) and looked almost cool. Even Ashwin have predicted a great future for that guy.
 
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Vikram1989 said:
Have u seen Sai Sudharshan ? He played in SA and Performed brilliantly against them in odi's on pace tracks(against 145 plus bowlers) and looked almost cool. Even Ashwin have predicted a great future for that guy.
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India has to nurture these players well. Bring them into system in low key matches. I don't think India is doing a good job there. They are wrongly backing players for wrong formats. Samson is a ODI batsman. His failure in T20 is costing his ODI place. Same way SKY is strictly a T20 batsman. They tried to convert him into a ODI/Test player and failed while there is real talent available.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
India has to nurture these players well. Bring them into system in low key matches. I don't think India is doing a good job there. They are wrongly backing players for wrong formats. Samson is a ODI batsman. His failure in T20 is costing his ODI place. Same way SKY is strictly a T20 batsman. They tried to convert him into a ODI/Test player and failed while there is real talent available.
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I thinks its complete muddled thinking from management after Gabba test won by t20 players.Dravid and Rohit must go to provide space for all the youngsters. A foreign coach with out any prejudice should be in to fix all the mess
 
Mamoon said:
Did you enjoy watching Gill bat in this Test? As I always say, Pakistani fans will never learn.
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Lol does that make him comparable to Richards? Scoring a 100 at home against 3 spinners who have played 5 tests combined. Also trapped plumb in front of the wickets by Anderson but somehow saved by the Hawkeye on umpires call.
I do not expect him to fail in every innings.Do you think that's possible? 😃
Nor do I make baseless predictions about a certain player or say that he is completely talentless.
Remember when you claimed Stokes is done and dusted during the Ashes and the next day he scored a brilliant 155
 
Saim is quite new. He is just starting.

Jaiswal has been around for a while.

Too early for comparison.
 
Ahmed216 said:
Lol does that make him comparable to Richards? Scoring a 100 at home against 3 spinners who have played 5 tests combined. Also trapped plumb in front of the wickets by Anderson but somehow saved by the Hawkeye on umpires call.
I do not expect him to fail in every innings.Do you think that's possible? 😃
Nor do I make baseless predictions about a certain player or say that he is completely talentless.
Remember when you claimed Stokes is done and dusted during the Ashes and the next day he scored a brilliant 155
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Who is talking about Viv Richards here. Is Gill a great batsman in the making? Yes

Is he going to have a better legacy than Babar? Yes
 
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Common thing about both Gill and Jaiswal is both have scored a century against Pakistan in their respective U19 WC game.
 
sweep_shot said:
Saim is quite new. He is just starting.

Jaiswal has been around for a while.

Too early for comparison.
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Jaiswal started 6 months back and he is making a name. Saim started much earlier than jaiswal and was not picked as he is not good enough. Jaiswal will bea sure contender in any team while saim is not. saim need atleast another 3 years to fix his issues
 
Rajdeep said:
Common thing about both Gill and Jaiswal is both have scored a century against Pakistan in their respective U19 WC game.
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I have to say Gill technically has somewhat regressed since his under-19 days. He has vastly improved his power hitting. But on the same side his decisive feet movement is not there anymore
 
Career highlights

Saim Ayub - MOTS in CPL and hitting a 6 in a T20 against NZ.

Jaiswal - 2 test tons and a t20i ton.

I rate Saim but Jaiswal is ahead big time.
 
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