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Yorkshire vs Pakistan A | 26-29 June, 2016 | Headingley | Match Thread

38 of Zaman's 49 runs are from boundaries. Not good signs..
 
Very pleasant to see CRR of 3.36 and in last 10 overs it has been 4.20.
 
Oh Babar you little Beauty. Most dynamic batsman in Pakistan along with Hafeez. Future captain in all 3 formats.
 
Azam is a cut above the rest TBH..

This level is too easy for him..
 
Babar looking good. Very good experience for him with champions trophy next year and he will certainly be playing against England in the 2018 test series.
 
Seems to me that Babar is playing purposely. 21 runs on 28 balls with four 4's SR of 75.

And on the other end Umar Siddiq is out. Somebody need to support Babar here.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] the spinners are causing trouble. I guess it wasnt that bad an idea to play both nawaz and Asghar even Yorkshire are playing 2 spinners. Also commies said Nawaz got the most turn so far. Lets see what these 2 do in the 4th innings.
 
Babar and Hafeez both need to be batting in our ODI top 3. Babar needs to be vice captain and not sweepfraz. Groom him till CT 2017 then make him captain of all 3 formats tbh.
 
aliasad1998 said:
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] the spinners are causing trouble. I guess it wasnt that bad an idea to play both nawaz and Asghar even Yorkshire are playing 2 spinners. Also commies said Nawaz got the most turn so far. Lets see what these 2 do in the 4th innings.
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Idea may be good, not execution - Nawaz is not a spinner for longer version. In that case, they should have picked the leggi Sadab, not a bad batsman either.

In fact, Nawaz's inclusion is questionable, but not absurd - what is Basit Ali special is dropping Saud & play the hack, who shouldn't be any where even in 35 overs match. At official 27 & playing in & out for 4 years in PAK team, now he is sent to "learn" opening in longer version.

One, managing National A side, shouldn't be dumb enough to pick an opener for a FC match, whose domestic List A average is 3/4 runs higher than FC average AND that too at the expense of the best potential No. 3 in Pakistan since many, many years.
 
4 wickets in the last 10-15 overs.. typical Pakistani batting :facepalm:
 
asyed said:
It a a big mistake to leave Saud out of the team.
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The only person PP'ers did not want in side was Jahid Ali and he happens to be the highest scorer in this innings so far..

In hindsight, we could have benched Nawaz and played Saud..
 
Syed1 said:
The only person PP'ers did not want in side was Jahid Ali and he happens to be the highest scorer in this innings so far..

In hindsight, we could have benched Nawaz and played Saud..
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Missed a "most" in between...........
 
Syed1 said:
The only person PP'ers did not want in side was Jahid Ali and he happens to be the highest scorer in this innings so far..

In hindsight, we could have benched Nawaz and played Saud..
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Or maybe Umar Siddiq. I hope Saud would/should get chance in next game.
 
Babar is relying too much on boundaries, which is not a good sign.
 
God none of our batsmen know how to rotate the strike
 
Slog said:
God none of our batsmen know how to rotate the strike
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Except Hafeez(when set), Babar, Haris, Malikm Sarfraz and Umar Akmal. The first 3 names there are probably the best ODI batsmen in Pakistan.
 
Babar has smashed an excellent New Zealand side in new Zealand where all our batsmen except Hafeez struggled. This is nothing for him.
 
asyed said:
Babar is relying too much on boundaries, which is not a good sign.
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Doesn't matter much - he is scoring at 75+ SR. May be Yorkshire has put attacking field as this is the last pair with catching fielders around & bowlers are attacking him. He is doing exactly the right thing by going after as the tail is looming - might get out, but better players differentiates themselves in those situation. These are the time when you shouldn't play like Azhar Ali. No comparison, but there is a reason why with only 50 average Viv Richards is considered greatest.

Problem would have been had PAK A score been 205/2 & Babar batting at 45% SR with 75% boundary contribution - again ala Azhar Ali.
 
Overall a pretty poor effort this. Decent from Jahid & Fakhar; I thought Jahid batted slow before lunch but good on him to kick on afterwards. Good effort from Babar also, but honestly all 3 should have pushed on; this seems to be a problem with most of our young batsmen - they need to convert their starts into bigger scores. Poor stuff from Siddiq & Nawaz.
 
Nawaz hasnt impressed me even once with batting or bowling except at the start of PSL on those turning pitches
 
MMHS said:
Doesn't matter much - he is scoring at 75+ SR. May be Yorkshire has put attacking field as this is the last pair with catching fielders around & bowlers are attacking him. He is doing exactly the right thing by going after as the tail is looming - might get out, but better players differentiates themselves in those situation. These are the time when you shouldn't play like Azhar Ali. No comparison, but there is a reason why with only 50 average Viv Richards is considered greatest.

Problem would have been had PAK A score been 205/2 & Babar batting at 45% SR with 75% boundary contribution - again ala Azhar Ali.
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When you see that you're running out of partners and tail is looming, then shouldn't you try to take single on 4th/5th/6th and not to expose your partner?

I'm not saying that he shouldn't hit boundaries, all I'm saying is that rotate strike, take single on 4th/5th/6th ball and not expose your partners.
 
asyed said:
When you see that you're running out of partners and tail is looming, then shouldn't you try to take single on 4th/5th/6th and not to expose your partner?

I'm not saying that he shouldn't hit boundaries, all I'm saying is that rotate strike, take single on 4th/5th/6th ball and not expose your partners.
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He wasnt batting with tail though. Siddiq is a heavy domestic run scorer and Nawaz is supposed to be an all rounder
 
Hasan123 said:
In his LOI career he has shown he can rotate the strike.
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I don't care what he has shown or not.

Good players play according to the situation.

When you see your partners are not comfortable and you would be playing with tail, then why not take single on 4th/5th/6th ball?

Nothing is wrong with hitting 4's but should've been a bit more proactive in taking singles are right time.
 
aliasad1998 said:
He wasnt batting with tail though. Siddiq is a heavy domestic run scorer and Nawaz is supposed to be an all rounder
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Wasn't referring to those two. After Hassan how many had to come? (I'm not even sure about Hassan's batting credentials as well).
 
What the hell, go out for a couple of hours, return to check the score and we've collapsed !

This is a Yorkshire SECOND XI for god sake.

Nawaz has been the golden boy of Pak cricket since PSL but he's done nothing since. Replace him with Saud Shakeel next match and drop Sharjeel for someone who knows how to bat in longer form.
 
what kind of crap performance our batters are putting up?

Someone should have stayed and batted for a loong long time.

Fakhar and Babar relying too much on boundaries, which is far from a good sign. Just set in, improve your defence + temperament and play out 100+ overs.

They still have to learn a lot, we're already 6 down in deficit. Over expectation from Babar.

Babar just played 63 friggin balls. :danish
 
asyed said:
I don't care what he has shown or not.

Good players play according to the situation.

When you see your partners are not comfortable and you would be playing with tail, then why not take single on 4th/5th/6th ball?

Nothing is wrong with hitting 4's but should've been a bit more proactive in taking singles are right time.
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Well he is out now. But let's give him some credit man. He looked good when most of our other players didn't. He will not be perfect but we have to hope over time he will learn from such mistakes.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Babar has suddenly developed the Akmal 'keera' and now easily gifts his wickets after a good start. NZ series was the last time he played a long knock.
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Please tell me how many knocks he has played since then except that rubbish Pakistan cup??
 
Hawkeye said:
what kind of crap performance our batters are putting up?

Someone should have stayed and batted for a loong long time.

Fakhar and Babar relying too much on boundaries, which is far from a good sign. Just set in, improve your defence + temperament and play out 100+ overs.

They still have to learn a lot, we're already 6 down in deficit. Over expectation from Babar.

Babar just played 63 friggin balls. :danish
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Babar has developed temperament issues lately. His last long knock was in NZ. Played carelessly in the Pak Cup as well.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Please tell me how many knocks he has played since then except that rubbish Pakistan cup??
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Anything he has played since January. You are saying as if these months were just a few days. The Pak cup was a fifty over tournament not a T20 where short innings are acceptable. As a fan, as a critic the current pattern is worrisome. Also because Pakistanis in general have issues with it.

He looks so good on the crease and then suddenly gifts his wicket. Let's hope it doesn't stay like this.
 
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Hasan123 said:
Well he is out now. But let's give him some credit man. He looked good when most of our other players didn't. He will not be perfect but we have to hope over time he will learn from such mistakes.
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Yes, he has so much to learn, which include the following.

1. Don't throw your wicket away after all the hard work (just like his cousin).
2. Improve your temperament
3. Work on your defense
4. Come with a purpose to play the whole session.
5. Be proactive, and when you see partners on other end are struggling, then trying to keep strike as much as you can.
 
bilawal bhatti is there because of basit ali as basit ali said in an interview that he is best allrounder in pakistan and should play test matches for pakistan continuously and guys dont think amad butt or aamir yamin will be in odi squad of Pakistan A because this squad is for both 4 day and one days
 
aliasad1998 said:
Another duck. Why is this Bhatti even there?
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What are you saying yaar? He has 2 FIRST CLASS Hundreds in 63 matches ............ someone Shane Keith Warne has 2 FC hundreds in 300+ matches over 23 years career.
 
Two Hassan's are on the crease but onus is on Mohammad Hasan to contribute more towards the trail of 29 runs.
 
Amir Yamin or amad button should have been picked. Playing Nawaz as an all rounder in such conditions is nothing short of stupidity. Pcb made a huge mistake by appointing basit Ali.
 
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Disappointed by Babar . He needs to occupy the crease and develop the temperament to play long innings . He will cash in in the second innings IA
 
asyed said:
Yes, he has so much to learn, which include the following.

1. Don't throw your wicket away after all the hard work (just like his cousin).
2. Improve your temperament
3. Work on your defense
4. Come with a purpose to play the whole session.
5. Be proactive, and when you see partners on other end are struggling, then trying to keep strike as much as you can.
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Yes agree with all of them. I hope he has a goo mentor and someone he can learn. If he was apart of the test team learning of team man and misbah wouldn't be a bad thing as well
 
asyed said:
Yes, he has so much to learn, which include the following.

1. Don't throw your wicket away after all the hard work (just like his cousin).
2. Improve your temperament
3. Work on your defense
4. Come with a purpose to play the whole session.
5. Be proactive, and when you see partners on other end are struggling, then trying to keep strike as much as you can.
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Great points - perfect; question is how?

I mean, when you play FC cricket for <250 overs, on wickets where 170 is a match winning target, & in December when after 4/5 hours cricket in a day, you can rest you bum; then how can batsmen grow the hunger to bat for 10 hours, or can back their technique to survive for 3 sessions? Every ball is a hand grenade - better is to adopt gung ho style - 38 ball 35 is a match winner, if 2/3 can put such scores.

There is a reason why out of 150 years history - almost 75% of greatest ever batsmen have come from only about 10 grounds - SCG, Adeliade, Oval, Headingley, Mumbai, Karachi, Colombo, Barbados, Guyana & Wonderers.
 
MMHS said:
Great points - perfect; question is how?

I mean, when you play FC cricket for <250 overs, on wickets where 170 is a match winning target, & in December when after 4/5 hours cricket in a day, you can rest you bum; then how can batsmen grow the hunger to bat for 10 hours, or can back their technique to survive for 3 sessions? Every ball is a hand grenade - better is to adopt gung ho style - 38 ball 35 is a match winner, if 2/3 can put such scores.

There is a reason why out of 150 years history - almost 75% of greatest ever batsmen have come from only about 10 grounds - SCG, Adeliade, Oval, Headingley, Mumbai, Karachi, Colombo, Barbados, Guyana & Wonderers.
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Nice points
 
MMHS said:
Great points - perfect; question is how?

I mean, when you play FC cricket for <250 overs, on wickets where 170 is a match winning target, & in December when after 4/5 hours cricket in a day, you can rest you bum; then how can batsmen grow the hunger to bat for 10 hours, or can back their technique to survive for 3 sessions? Every ball is a hand grenade - better is to adopt gung ho style - 38 ball 35 is a match winner, if 2/3 can put such scores.

There is a reason why out of 150 years history - almost 75% of greatest ever batsmen have come from only about 10 grounds - SCG, Adeliade, Oval, Headingley, Mumbai, Karachi, Colombo, Barbados, Guyana & Wonderers.
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Aren't the Gadaffi and the Iqbal stadium (Faisalabad) flat as hell as well? Then people complain that there is no challenge on these grounds the reason they can not play swing/spin.
 
MMHS said:
Great points - perfect; question is how?

I mean, when you play FC cricket for <250 overs, on wickets where 170 is a match winning target, & in December when after 4/5 hours cricket in a day, you can rest you bum; then how can batsmen grow the hunger to bat for 10 hours, or can back their technique to survive for 3 sessions? Every ball is a hand grenade - better is to adopt gung ho style - 38 ball 35 is a match winner, if 2/3 can put such scores.

There is a reason why out of 150 years history - almost 75% of greatest ever batsmen have come from only about 10 grounds - SCG, Adeliade, Oval, Headingley, Mumbai, Karachi, Colombo, Barbados, Guyana & Wonderers.
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This is why I said he's to learn a lot. And I believe his best chance would be when he'll play in UAE. Unfortunately, there is no cricket in Pakistan so it has to be UAE.

He should learn how to occupy the crease, develop his temperament to play long innings and aim to play full session (if not all 3). I'm hopeful that he can do it. Still remembered some time ago his 266 runs in a FIRST CLASS game.
 
Whats the big deal with Mohammad Nawaz?

I honestly dont see what he offers with bat and bowl that Zafar Gohar and Imad Wasim dont.
 
Keeper playing a gem. Seen him bat in One Day cup. Not the most talented or techincally correct but hes a fighter.
 
Muddaser said:
Whats the big deal with Mohammad Nawaz?

I honestly dont see what he offers with bat and bowl that Zafar Gohar and Imad Wasim dont.
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He is not a batsman

Has been masquerading as a batsman since hitting a few boundaries in PSL
 
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