"You have to treat Bangladesh the same as you treat Pakistan and the same as you treat India": Nasser Hussain

[gazza619]

People have problem with Jay Shah being head of ICC because he is son of Indian home minister.

However, PCBs head is home minister of Pakistan himself who also happens to be ACC chief. However, none of these hypocrites will say anything.

Jay Shah is not the problem. His policies are here.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Mark Butcher on Wisden: "Replacing Bangladesh with Scotland is a slight on the muslim world"

What kind of paindoo analysis is this lol.

Exactly.
They can't hide their Islamist agenda. Butcher very clearly mentioned PCB are supporting Bangladesh as a muslim nation. They brought religion to cricket and must be exposed.

Nasser has always had an axe to grind with Indian cricket and his double standards have always been exposed time and again. All the criticism of IPL ober the years and yet turning up for every little degenerate filth from Enlgish cricket like a shameless little man he's always been - Stanford T20s, T10s, 100S and what not.

 

[emranabbas]

He's a muslim.
Thats says everything.

Nasser hussain is an indian

 

[Banda298]

Nasser giving indians the taste of thier own medicie and now the bhangra has started on the other side...

Not in 1000 births can he give any taste of any medicine to the country he was actually born in .

He can eloquently protest

 

[Usman Chadda]

Nasser hussain is an indian

You can understand what’s more important for these idiots

 

[Devadwal]

Nasser hussain is an indian

Entire Pakistan is product of India but we have seen how they have becomes.

 

[Rajdeep]

Jay Shah is not the problem. His policies are here.

Pls list down what policies he implemented that is problematic for you

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He's a muslim.
Thats says everything.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Why are britistani and Pak papers shying away from Zim issue? Why didn’t “everyone should be treated equal Nasser” play against Zim
In 2003 or write about lack of visa in 2009?

 

[Rana]

Why are britistani and Pak papers shying away from Zim issue? Why didn’t “everyone should be treated equal Nasser” play against Zim
In 2003 or write about lack of visa in 2009?

Just like Indians have been shying away from the Zimbabwe 2003 issue

Apparently it’s “security issues” if England did it but “no legal grounds” if Pakistan do it to India

 

[gazza619]

Pls list down what policies he implemented that is problematic for you

I am not going to waste my time talking in details about a fella like Jay Shah

If you like the man, good for you

 

[gazza619]

Exactly.
They can't hide their Islamist agenda. Butcher very clearly mentioned PCB are supporting Bangladesh as a muslim nation. They brought religion to cricket and must be exposed.

Nasser has always had an axe to grind with Indian cricket and his double standards have always been exposed time and again. All the criticism of IPL ober the years and yet turning up for every little degenerate filth from Enlgish cricket like a shameless little man he's always been - Stanford T20s, T10s, 100S and what not.

bhaijaan bro, I wanted to take a moment to address something and assure you that there's no need to get angry. Nasser and Butcher have no particular interest in Pakistan and Bangladesh. They're simply expressing their views as neutral observers.

From their perspective, they clearly see a danger to the future of cricket, which is why they are voicing their concerns.

Their intention is not to target any specific nation but to highlight potential issues that could affect the sport as a whole.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Ok wait.

Han g.... How much more wait???

Accept that you lied

 

[Rajdeep]

I am not going to waste my time talking in details about a fella like Jay Shah

If you like the man, good for you

Jay Shah became ICC head end of Dec 2024. All I want to know is what wrong step did he took?

You dont like him because -
1. He is Indian
2. He is kaffir
3. His father belongs to BJP
4. Modi is head of BJP.

So all of these is your own personal hatred. If you think about it rationally, Jay Shah didnt do anything wrong in his capacity as an ICC head to warrant hatred from you lot.

He has however done plenty of good work, which geriatric chairmans before him failed to do so. Empowered womens cricket, improved pay structure for smaller boards, getting cricket in Olympics etc etc.

The gora ICC heads before him were there only for paychecks.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I am not going to waste my time talking in details about a fella like Jay Shah

If you like the man, good for you

Even Amit Shah wouldn't waste his time on him.

 

[gazza619]

Jay Shah became ICC head end of Dec 2024. All I want to know is what wrong step did he took?

You dont like him because -
1. He is Indian
2. He is kaffir

I hold no blame towards you. Why would I? It is clear to me that the real issue lies with the media and bollywood movies. Take "Border 2" for example, it was a massive hit yet it portrayed such hateful values.

It's unfortunate how these elements can have such a significant impact on perceptions and attitudes.

 

[sweep_shot]

Nasser was always a classy fella.

This whole saga has exposed BCCICC to the world even more.

 

[Devadwal]

Han g.... How much more wait???

Accept that you lied

Find out my post Where I post the statement of Peter lalor - Australia journalist.

Being mod it's a easy job to find out for you. Mere pass itne notification hai ab m kase search karunga. Hint de di baki dekh lo.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Jay Shah became ICC head end of Dec 2024. All I want to know is what wrong step did he took?

You dont like him because -
1. He is Indian
2. He is kaffir
3. His father belongs to BJP
4. Modi is head of BJP.

So all of these is your own personal hatred. If you think about it rationally, Jay Shah didnt do anything wrong in his capacity as an ICC head to warrant hatred from you lot.

He has however done plenty of good work, which geriatric chairmans before him failed to do so. Empowered womens cricket, improved pay structure for smaller boards, getting cricket in Olympics etc etc.

The gora ICC heads before him were there only for paychecks.

You do realise you live in England, right? Or do you keep forgetting? Or are you in England for paychecks only? #HypocrisyTohHai

 

[BouncerGuy]

Find out my post Where I post the statement of Peter lalor - Australia journalist.

Being mod it's a easy job to find out for you. Mere pass itne notification hai ab m kase search karunga. Hint de di baki dekh lo.

You mentioned me... it is your job to present proof... I am waiting

 

[Devadwal]

You mentioned me... it is your job to present proof... I am waiting

Ab itni sari post hai kha se karu search, itna time ni hai? You can search Peter lalor below statement

*Pakistan is only relevant in the cricketing world due to rivalry with India; otherwise they are another Bangladesh "

You'll find out you reply there , or delete kar diya ho mod ho to kya pta

 

[Bhaijaan]

bhaijaan bro, I wanted to take a moment to address something and assure you that there's no need to get angry. Nasser and Butcher have no particular interest in Pakistan and Bangladesh. They're simply expressing their views as neutral observers.

From their perspective, they clearly see a danger to the future of cricket, which is why they are voicing their concerns.

Their intention is not to target any specific nation but to highlight potential issues that could affect the sport as a whole.

I respect people raising their voicea bout injustice.
I too say it openly Pakistan has been picked on a lot in Cricket and we need to be more fair.

But i have an axe to grind with Sky panelists and will not let these slimy anti hindus get away with it my dear.

 

[oatmeal]

its the truth, I dont know how anyone can argue otherwise. If India had refused to play a tournament citing government approval, ICC would have moved mountains to accommodate their concerns and reschedule the hosting venues. No tournament is financially feasible without India playing.

Teams are not treated equally, its based on the power and financial muscle. Same in geopolitics and same in sport

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Mark Butcher on Wisden: "Replacing Bangladesh with Scotland is a slight on the muslim world"

What kind of paindoo analysis is this lol.

Any link to this? I have tried to google it and your post is the only thing that comes up.

Would be interesting to see if its paindoo analysis by Butcher or paindoo interpretation by you.

 

[Rajdeep]

You do realise you live in England, right? Or do you keep forgetting? Or are you in England for paychecks only? #HypocrisyTohHai

I love England bro. Atleast I love the country I live. Cant say the same thing for others

 

[Rajdeep]

I hold no blame towards you. Why would I? It is clear to me that the real issue lies with the media and bollywood movies. Take "Border 2" for example, it was a massive hit yet it portrayed such hateful values.

It's unfortunate how these elements can have such a significant impact on perceptions and attitudes.

I dont watch Bollywood because it is mostly crap. The last good bollywood movie I have watched was Student Of the Year and that too only for Alia Bhatt

All I am asking from you is - what wrong did Jay Shah do in his capacity as ICC head. This simple question you are unable to answer. You hate him, we get it and I also listed the reason.

 

[hur rizvi]

That's a good point you make. BCCI asked the ICC and PCB to go ahead and host the CT, 2025 without India. Yet, they didn't. They should have because it would have set the precedent.​

Did ICC vote on whether to kick India out or not?

 

[ravisurya]

1. BCCI refused to travel to Pak Citing Govt permission and Security concerns

Outcome : CT 2025 changed to Hybrid Model. BCCI accomodated

2. BCB refused to travel to India Citing Govt Permission and Security Concerns

Outcome : Security assesment initiated. BCB Expelled

No one is blaming BCCI.. Naser Hussain is talking about ICC but of course in your head criticism on ICC is same as Criticism on BCCI

You forgot to add akistan refused to travel to India. Outcome: ICC did allow them to play all their games in Sri Lanka including the one against India.

 

[Devadwal]

Just got to read what Nasser Hussain said about 2003 boycott of Zimbabwe: (source BBC)

"We'd been in the room at the hotel for three days discussing it and went out for breakfast," Nasser Hussain, England captain at the time, tells BBC Sport.

"Muttiah Muralitharan, the great Sri Lanka spinner, grabbed me and said: 'What's the discussion? Just play in Zimbabwe.'""I looked at him as if to say, 'It's not an issue for Sri Lanka, but it's definitely a very big issue for us.'"

"Sometimes politics and sport do clash, and this was one of those occasions." He added.

What an absolute hypocrite. How do this people preach about principle and fairness to others with themselves having double standards.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

You forgot to add akistan refused to travel to India. Outcome: ICC did allow them to play all their games in Sri Lanka including the one against India.

Yes thats Pak's Refusal after getting Snubbed by BCCI several times like promise of Bi laterals in mid 2010s and then assurance to travel for CT in return of CWC 2023 travel to India. Do not make it sound like it was PCB's Wish or something. it was consequence of what BCCI had been doing before and It still does nt answer why ICC reacted differently to BD and BCCI's refusal to travel

 

[jnaveen1980]

So Nasser Hussain, Mark Butcher words are valued Hope you guys accept the words from then when they are critical of you.

 

[jnaveen1980]

It is all about series of decision making

1)Dropping of Fiz from KKR - BCCI decision - impacts 1 player
2) Asking for new venue for BD - BCB decision - impacts other teams as they have to reschedule everything , admins
3) Opting out from WC - BCB decision - impacts bangladesh fans, players, ICC to some extent
4) Pakistan skipping India match - PCB decision -impact all small nations, themselves, ICC and open to sanctions, further isolation

Among the 4 decisions which one is the dumbest? Even if you assume decision 1 is the cruellest decision it impacts one player and PSL hired him. He is not going to go broke. This is something even Naz would agree to it. How it went from there to this.

 

[ravisurya]

Yes thats Pak's Refusal after getting Snubbed by BCCI several times like promise of Bi laterals in mid 2010s and then assurance to travel for CT in return of CWC 2023 travel to India. Do not make it sound like it was PCB's Wish or something. it was consequence of what BCCI had been doing before and It still does nt answer why ICC reacted differently to BD and BCCI's refusal to travel

Your original post was about how icc was treating others. Stop changing goal posts.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

You forgot to add akistan refused to travel to India. Outcome: ICC did allow them to play all their games in Sri Lanka including the one against India.

Yes thats Pak's Refusal after getting Snubbed by BCCI several times like promise of Bi laterals in mid 2010s and then assurance to travel for CT in return of CWC 2023 travel to India. Do not make it sound like it was PCB's Wish or something. it was consequence of what BCCI had been doing before and It still does nt answer why BCCI reacted differently to BD and BCCI's

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Your original post was about how icc was treating others. Stop changing goal posts.

So did nt ICC treat BD different? If Pak got its matches in SL then why not BD?

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

But, both ICC and PCB knew without India, there will be no money. So they made the hybrid arrangement to accomodate India. However, kicking BD out from a tournament, like they have done this time, will have zero impact.

First of all it was nt PCB's Job to arrange tge tournament so PCB had nothing to do with either

Your statement is proving our point

if ICC changes its decision based on Financial leverage of the member over ICC , then how its fair and Consistent?

No one is Blaming BCCI. but any criticism on ICC and people like you come and defend it as if ICC is BCCI

 

[sweep_shot]

Nasser is from a country of equality.

Indians are unlikely to understand Nasser's viewpoint because they are from the land of caste system. Discrimination comes naturally to the Indians.

Indians tend to see everything through the lense of discriminatory caste-like system.

 

[sweep_shot]

England generate the most revenue in football.

Do we see them behave like paindoos involving football? Football generates far more revenue than cricket.

India need to embrace humility if they want to maximize their long-term potential as a country.

 

[Red-Indian]

Why ICC changed its process regardles of when the reservation was communicated. Im talking about need of doing security assesment to make a decision. So in Future lets say CT 2029 if Pak says they have reservation to travel to India 6 months in advance , Will ICC shift Pak matches to dubai or tell them to pack bags ?

I think it's a fair point. The ICC should conduct independent security assessments before agreeing to countries claiming security concerns. It's very different for India-Pakistan though. The two countries have fought several wars including one as recently as 2025. I doubt even an independent security advisor would be able to give a clean chit. The ICC could perhaps have taken the security concerns at face value and given concessions to both countries. I'm not saying they should have but I can sort of understand why they believed India and Pakistan (besides of course their financial value) and didn't believe Bangladesh when it suddenly claimed security concerns.

Is it enough of a reason to boycott just the India game by Pakistan though? BCCI didn't issue a single statement criticising Bangladesh for it's concerns. Every other country also voted.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

I think it's a fair point. The ICC should conduct independent security assessments before agreeing to countries claiming security concerns. It's very different for India-Pakistan though. The two countries have fought several wars including one as recently as 2025. I doubt even an independent security advisor would be able to give a clean chit. The ICC could perhaps have taken the security concerns at face value and given concessions to both countries. I'm not saying they should have but I can sort of understand why they believed India and Pakistan (besides of course their financial value) and didn't believe Bangladesh when it suddenly claimed security concerns.

Is it enough of a reason to boycott just the India game by Pakistan though? BCCI didn't issue a single statement criticising Bangladesh for it's concerns. Every other country also voted.

Pakistan's Boycott has come at a boiling point where PCB felt that they were also hard done by ICC in 2025 given ICC's Accomodation for BCCI and then PCB's accomodation in Current tournament but PCB did nt want it to begin with. The ideal situation would have been if PCB were allowed to keep the whole tournament in CT 2025 .

Then there was Handshake row and refusal of Indian captain to recieve trophy from ACC head because he is Pakistani. These things have consequences and most Pakistanis back this decision of PCB

 

[RexRex]

Any link to this? I have tried to google it and your post is the only thing that comes up.

Would be interesting to see if its paindoo analysis by Butcher or paindoo interpretation by you.

Did you check post#22 ? That's the more accurate quote.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Did you check post#22 ? That's the more accurate quote.

I've not seen anywhere where he said that.

 

[Red-Indian]

Pakistan's Boycott has come at a boiling point where PCB felt that they were also hard done by ICC in 2025 given ICC's Accomodation for BCCI and then PCB's accomodation in Current tournament but PCB did nt want it to begin with. The ideal situation would have been if PCB were allowed to keep the whole tournament in CT 2025 .

Then there was Handshake row and refusal of Indian captain to recieve trophy from ACC head because he is Pakistani. These things have consequences and most Pakistanis back this decision of PCB

I don't know though. India is a country you're fighting wars with and who accuse you of fomenting terrorism and who you accuse of fomenting terrorism. You think it's unreasonable for both countries to not want to send their national teams into each other? Yes it would be nice if they were able to get over the hate and send the team but surely it can't be seen as a major surprise and an insult.

The handshake stuff by India was cheap, petty actions that deserved similar reactions. Naqvi running away with the trophy or Pakistani player plane crash mocking was similar proportionate cheap, petty reactions. Not trying to burn down the world cricket order.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

I don't know though. India is a country you're fighting wars with and who accuse you of fomenting terrorism and who you accuse of fomenting terrorism. You think it's unreasonable for both countries to not want to send their national teams into each other? Yes it would be nice if they were able to get over the hate and send the team but surely it can't be seen as a major surprise and an insult.

The handshake stuff by India was cheap, petty actions that deserved similar reactions. Naqvi running away with the trophy or Pakistani player plane crash mocking was similar proportionate cheap, petty reactions. Not trying to burn down the world cricket order.

Given all the reasons above , Boycot did nt happen but it is now so yeah those points make sense. ICC needs to stop pairing Pak and India in Same group

 

[Rajdeep]

First of all it was nt PCB's Job to arrange tge tournament so PCB had nothing to do with either

Your statement is proving our point

if ICC changes its decision based on Financial leverage of the member over ICC , then how its fair and Consistent?

No one is Blaming BCCI. but any criticism on ICC and people like you come and defend it as if ICC is BCCI

If you recall my posts from last year, I specifically asked India to sit out and have the entire CT in Pakistan. Agreed it was an ICC event but PCB/Naqvi should have demanded this from ICC. I mean if they can take on ICC now, why they didnt during CT.

You know why? Because PCB, like ICC realized having an ICC event without India will not make money.

In an ideal world, what you are saying is correct. ICC should not be making exception for any team. However, its easy for us to say all that. The people who works in ICC need to pay wages. So though kicking out teams like BD is easy but India is a different proponent all together.

Cricket is not a global sport anyway. India is cricket and cricket is India. Its an undisputed fact.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

If you recall my posts from last year, I specifically asked India to sit out and have the entire CT in Pakistan. Agreed it was an ICC event but PCB/Naqvi should have demanded this from ICC. I mean if they can take on ICC now, why they didnt during CT.

You know why? Because PCB, like ICC realized having an ICC event without India will not make money.

In an ideal world, what you are saying is correct. ICC should not be making exception for any team. However, its easy for us to say all that. The people who works in ICC need to pay wages. So though kicking out teams like BD is easy but India is a different proponent all together.

Cricket is not a global sport anyway. India is cricket and cricket is India. Its an undisputed fact.

Naqvi could nt say anything because it was chance for PCB to have an ICC tournament in 30 years. PCB made a compromise not because of Money but hosting oppurtunity. I can assure you naqvi would nt have cared if tournament was Financial disaster in absence of India. It was ICC that made these arrangements. Naqvi just got to say PCB wont travel to India for t20 wc and it was easy call for ICC since tournament was already half in SL

If the world is nt ideal , then ICC did nt need to kick out BD because it was easy compared to BCCI. And then ICC also have audacity to talk about Fairness , Consistency and preserving sanctity of Game in Sunday press release. it was a hilarious read though

 

[Raja Ishtiaq]

Indians on social media implying that Nas is supporting Bangladesh and Pakistan because he is like them as he has 'Hussain' in his name.

They truly are imbeciles

 

[jnaveen1980]

14 out 16 countries voted against Bangladeshis request. That included CA and ECB. Changing schedule of BD at the last minute will.impact everyone that plays BD. Logistical challenges are massive. Sure Nasser has the right to air his opinion. But did he question ECB? Besides when you know root cause was dropping of Fiz it looks even more ridiculous asking for change of venue.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

World is always unfair towards people with power, position. It was pro white with aus, eng having veto power.
Things changed in 90s and completely shifted towards india in late 00s

In an ideal world everyone should be treated fair but that never happens. Good on Nasseer to call this out but nothing will change.

Improve your economy, become more powerful to have your say. Pak n bdesh should focus on improving their cricketing results, win more icc titles. That automatically makes you more important.

From 2019 all icc events have been won by the big 3. Rsa, nz won the icc test championship hence the are also in the mix with more respect.

 

[Red-Indian]

Given all the reasons above , Boycot did nt happen but it is now so yeah those points make sense. ICC needs to stop pairing Pak and India in Same group

Well all of cricket including Pakistan needs to accept a major cut in revenue distribution from the ICC for it to stop pairing Pakistan and India in the same group. The only reason ICC got a $3Bn deal...more than double the previous annual value is that it agreed to make a 'best effort' to ensure an India-Pakistan game.

It's easy to blame the ICC but in the end it's just a constituent board of it's members. All parties including India, Pakistan and Bangladesh loved the money from the new deal and agreed to the terms through the MPA.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Indians on social media implying that Nas is supporting Bangladesh and Pakistan because he is like them as he has 'Hussain' in his name.

They truly are imbeciles

There are imbeciles in both the nations. Calling an entire nation collectively as 1 is stupidity

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Well all of cricket including Pakistan needs to accept a major cut in revenue distribution from the ICC for it to stop pairing Pakistan and India in the same group. The only reason ICC got a $3Bn deal...more than double the previous annual value is that it agreed to make a 'best effort' to ensure an India-Pakistan game.

It's easy to blame the ICC but in the end it's just a constituent board of it's members. All parties including India, Pakistan and Bangladesh loved the money from the new deal and agreed to the terms through the MPA.

There has been lot of Back tracking by BCCI

if you remember in 2023 Asia cup was also an issue because India did nt want to travel to Pakistan. Then ICC executive Came to Pak to Convince Najam that PCB must come to India for 2023 WC and BCCI would reciprocate. he is on record with this fact but again when CT came close , Same old backtracking happened when Pak was promised bi laterals in exchange to support new Financial model of ICC. So MPA is of little value in face of un reliable BCCI

 

[HalBass9]

Money will come, stand your ground. After the petty “handshake” theatrics and refusing to accept the trophy from the PCB chairman, Pakistan had no choice but to stand firm.

Money will come, this is Pakistan cricket. And it says everything that, except for Indian voices, almost every former player not financially tied to the IPL has openly supported Pakistan’s stance.

 

[Red-Indian]

There has been lot of Back tracking by BCCI

if you remember in 2023 Asia cup was also an issue because India did nt want to travel to Pakistan. Then ICC executive Came to Pak to Convince Najam that PCB must come to India for 2023 WC and BCCI would reciprocate. he is on record with this fact but again when CT came close , Same old backtracking happened when Pak was promised bi laterals in exchange to support new Financial model of ICC. So MPA is of little value in face of un reliable BCCI

I have yet to see a single statement from the BCCI over the last 10 years that they would be willing to send an Indian team to visit Pakistan. The opposition would destroy the government that dared to do this. I've heard these comments from Pakistani administrators that they believed they had a deal that India would somehow visit Pakistan but not one statement, indication, or even nod from a BCCI or Indian government official. If Pakistani administrators somehow believed that India would visit and are insulted they didn't, I'm afraid it defies common sense. I myself was hoping the Indian government would somehow thaw but lost hope when I didn't see a single indication.

Pakistan, in fact, did an excellent job negotiating the quid pro quo taking advantage of it's value to international cricket. What it wants more than that and what it hopes to achieve from this boycott, I can't say.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

I have yet to see a single statement from the BCCI over the last 10 years that they would be willing to send an Indian team to visit Pakistan. The opposition would destroy the government that dared to do this. I've heard these comments from Pakistani administrators that they believed they had a deal that India would somehow visit Pakistan but not one statement, indication, or even nod from a BCCI or Indian government official. If Pakistani administrators somehow believed that India would visit and are insulted they didn't, I'm afraid it defies common sense. I myself was hoping the Indian government would somehow thaw but lost hope when I didn't see a single indication.

Pakistan, in fact, did an excellent job negotiating the quid pro quo taking advantage of it's value to international cricket. What it wants more than that and what it hopes to achieve from this boycott, I can't say.

what are you talking about about ?

MOU was signed by BCCI and PCB went to court over it lol

 

[Obaidd]

Money will come, stand your ground. After the petty “handshake” theatrics and refusing to accept the trophy from the PCB chairman, Pakistan had no choice but to stand firm.

Money will come, this is Pakistan cricket. And it says everything that, except for Indian voices, almost every former player not financially tied to the IPL has openly supported Pakistan’s stance.

Hey

What is Pakistan’s stance btw? That we will not play ind in a group match, forfeit the game, lose points, and jeopardise our chances of progressing. And that we will still play them in KOs and every other sport going around.

You could probably articulate it well so please for everyone’s benefit.

 

[Rajdeep]

Naqvi could nt say anything because it was chance for PCB to have an ICC tournament in 30 years. PCB made a compromise not because of Money but hosting oppurtunity. I can assure you naqvi would nt have cared if tournament was Financial disaster in absence of India. It was ICC that made these arrangements. Naqvi just got to say PCB wont travel to India for t20 wc and it was easy call for ICC since tournament was already half in SL

If the world is nt ideal , then ICC did nt need to kick out BD because it was easy compared to BCCI. And then ICC also have audacity to talk about Fairness , Consistency and preserving sanctity of Game in Sunday press release. it was a hilarious read though

You are naive to think Naqvi didnt care about the money. However, you are right in saying had PCB not accepted India's hybrid request, PCB would have lost hosting right for entire Champions Trophy. Why? Again for the same reason - without India there cant be a profitable ICC event.

Nevertheless, PCB didnt got a bad deal either. They also got hybrid arrangements till 2027. ICC or BCCI were under no compulsion to agree to PCBs demands. So Pakistan should be happy. Instead they are trying to create nuisence unnecessarily.

Bangladesh request came very late for any shift in groups or venues. Additionally, ICC need to draw a line somewhere. They cannot accept hybrid demand for everyone. Exceptions cannot be a norm. If tomorrow Angrez and Kangaroos say they wont play in India as they cant play spin bowling and they dont like the food and allow them to play in a hybrid arrangement in their home venues, what will ICC do? So they had to draw this line somewhere and I am glad they refused to relent infront of BDs absurd demands.

And if your issue is why this exception then only for India & Pakistan - I agree from now on no more hybrid model for any team. I will be more than happy for India to sit out of any ICC event they dont want to travel. Now whether broadcasters will allow it or ICC can afford it is not our problem. Other boards need to get their act better and try to make a tournament profitable without India.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

You are naive to think Naqvi didnt care about the money

he is not caring it about now is he?

They cannot accept hybrid demand for everyone. Exceptions cannot be a norm

why creating exception in First Place? ICC needs to stop awarding tournaments in BULK to India until India and Pakistan sort it out.

 

[jnaveen1980]

World is always unfair towards people with power, position. It was pro white with aus, eng having veto power.
Things changed in 90s and completely shifted towards india in late 00s

In an ideal world everyone should be treated fair but that never happens. Good on Nasseer to call this out but nothing will change.

Improve your economy, become more powerful to have your say. Pak n bdesh should focus on improving their cricketing results, win more icc titles. That automatically makes you more important.

From 2019 all icc events have been won by the big 3. Rsa, nz won the icc test championship hence the are also in the mix with more respect.

He can call it. But call it

You are naive to think Naqvi didnt care about the money. However, you are right in saying had PCB not accepted India's hybrid request, PCB would have lost hosting right for entire Champions Trophy. Why? Again for the same reason - without India there cant be a profitable ICC event.

Nevertheless, PCB didnt got a bad deal either. They also got hybrid arrangements till 2027. ICC or BCCI were under no compulsion to agree to PCBs demands. So Pakistan should be happy. Instead they are trying to create nuisence unnecessarily.

Bangladesh request came very late for any shift in groups or venues. Additionally, ICC need to draw a line somewhere. They cannot accept hybrid demand for everyone. Exceptions cannot be a norm. If tomorrow Angrez and Kangaroos say they wont play in India as they cant play spin bowling and they dont like the food and allow them to play in a hybrid arrangement in their home venues, what will ICC do? So they had to draw this line somewhere and I am glad they refused to relent infront of BDs absurd demands.

And if your issue is why this exception then only for India & Pakistan - I agree from now on no more hybrid model for any team. I will be more than happy for India to sit out of any ICC event they dont want to travel. Now whether broadcasters will allow it or ICC can afford it is not our problem. Other boards need to get their act better and try to make a tournament profitable without India.

Yea hybrid model impacts other teams. It is not just these 2 teams that get impacted. Sadly disproportionate income generation by BCCi leads to compromising decisions. Best thing that ICC can do is hosting icc events in SENA nations.

 

[RexRex]

Hey

What is Pakistan’s stance btw? That we will not play ind in a group match, forfeit the game, lose points, and jeopardise our chances of progressing. And that we will still play them in KOs and every other sport going around.

You could probably articulate it well so please for everyone’s benefit.

He has no idea either, he'll defend whatever stance the PCB puts out there.

 

[Rajdeep]

he is not caring it about now is he?


why creating exception in First Place? ICC needs to stop awarding tournaments in BULK to India until India and Pakistan sort it out.

Any ICC tournament in India is most profitable for ICC. Last T20 WC in USA/WI was a massive loss revenue wise. And you want ICC to stop awarding ICC tournaments to India and make money because of Pakistan?

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Best thing that ICC can do is hosting icc events in SENA nations.

Exactly

 

[HalBass9]

Hey

What is Pakistan’s stance btw? That we will not play ind in a group match, forfeit the game, lose points, and jeopardise our chances of progressing. And that we will still play them in KOs and every other sport going around.

You could probably articulate it well so please for everyone’s benefit.

Only cricket has been politicized.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Any ICC tournament in India is most profitable for ICC. Last T20 WC in USA/WI was a massive loss revenue wise. And you want ICC to stop awarding ICC tournaments to India and make money because of Pakistan? Who are you again? Bhai mirror wirror nehi hai kya ghar me?

why not? its ICC that talks about Fairness and Consistency. Did you read Sunday press release? it did nt say BCCI is Cricket and Cricket is BCCI. in future if they want to , sure. Let ICC come in open and say that. Trust me We wont have any issue with it

 

[TheSultan]

Nasser Hussain is a Muslim now? When was the last time he prayed? You must know that too?

Nasser has never claimed to be Muslim.

But even so, what about the others?

I guess Malik Butcher, Mikhail Atherton and Dawud Bumble Lloyd just got back from Umrah? @jeeteshssaxena

 

[Rajdeep]

why not? its ICC that talks about Fairness and Consistency. Did you read Sunday press release? it did nt say BCCI is Cricket and Cricket is BCCI. in future if they want to , sure. Let ICC come in open and say that. Trust me We wont have any issue with it

No business can run by incurring loses knowingly. Its called stupidity. ICC has all the right to take best business decisions keeping the interest of cricket in mind. In that aspect, they have always worked in fairness and consistency.

Even BD was not kicked out by a single board. ICC called a board meeting and 14 out of 15 members voted them out. So what is unfair here?

 

[sweep_shot]

Indians on social media implying that Nas is supporting Bangladesh and Pakistan because he is like them as he has 'Hussain' in his name.

They truly are imbeciles

I feel like engaging with them regularly can lower someone's IQ.

Never seen such level of stupidity from any other group of people.

 

[Rajdeep]

Money will come, stand your ground. After the petty “handshake” theatrics and refusing to accept the trophy from the PCB chairman, Pakistan had no choice but to stand firm.

Money will come, this is Pakistan cricket. And it says everything that, except for Indian voices, almost every former player not financially tied to the IPL has openly supported Pakistan’s stance.

Question is where was this firm stand for emerging Asia cup, womens world cup, U19 asia cup, U19 world cup etc etc. Pak has played India atleast 6-7 times after that handshake saga. So this excuse dont fly either. Next one pls.

We dont know when is the next Indo-Pak game but whenever it is one thing for sure we will still not shake hands. That is non negotiable.

 

[Savak]

No business can run by incurring loses knowingly. Its called stupidity. ICC has all the right to take best business decisions keeping the interest of cricket in mind. In that aspect, they have always worked in fairness and consistency.

Even BD was not kicked out by a single board. ICC called a board meeting and 14 out of 15 members voted them out. So what is unfair here?

The board meeting i.e. atleast its integrity can be questioned given the revenue monopoly and hold the BCCI has on all the other boards which makes it difficult for them to vote against the BCCI and India.

 

[Devadwal]

The board meeting i.e. atleast its integrity can be questioned given the revenue monopoly and hold the BCCI has on all the other boards which makes it difficult for them to vote against the BCCI and India.

Why haven't other boards generated enough revenue? What stopped them? Someone who is used to getting things for free can't do anything.

Sab BCCI ke paise se ghar chala rahe hai.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

No business can run by incurring loses knowingly. Its called stupidity. ICC has all the right to take best business decisions keeping the interest of cricket in mind. In that aspect, they have always worked in fairness and consistency.

Even BD was not kicked out by a single board. ICC called a board meeting and 14 out of 15 members voted them out. So what is unfair here?

Running Cricket is nt a business who told you that? The ICC’s official Mission Statement is to strengthen, grow, and protect the game with a core vision of having "more nations enjoying cricket." They often cite Sporting Integrity and fairness as the pillars of their global events. However, there is a clear disconnect when you look at how the financial Model is actually applied. The argument that tournaments must be held in high revenue markets to be successful is proven false by nations like South Africa.Since South Africa hosted the 2007 T20 World Cup, India has been awarded 6 major ICC trophies including upcoming ones In that same period, SA a top tier cricketing nation has been skipped over for nearly two decades for senior men's events. If fairness only applies when it’s financially convenient, the ICC ceases to be a global governing body and becomes a commercial rights manager for its wealthiest members. The ICC recently stated that members must act in the interest of the gobal cricket ecosystem However a healthy ecosystem requires decentralization.True integrity means returning to a model where hosting is a right of membership and not a prize for the highest bidder

 

[HalBass9]

Question is where was this firm stand for emerging Asia cup, womens world cup, U19 asia cup, U19 world cup etc etc. Pak has played India atleast 6-7 times after that handshake saga. So this excuse dont fly either. Next one pls.

We dont know when is the next Indo-Pak game but whenever it is one thing for sure we will still not shake hands. That is non negotiable.

India politicized the men cricket for domestic consumption.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Nasser has never claimed to be Muslim.

But even so, what about the others?

I guess Malik Butcher, Mikhail Atherton and Dawud Bumble Lloyd just got back from Umrah? @jeeteshssaxena

Why should Nasser’s opinion matter when he didn’t speak up for Zim in 2003? Shouldn’t Zim who has been a full member longer than BD deserve the same consideration Nasser is advocating? Why was he quiet?

 

[LongHorn]

I didn't pick him, BCCI didn't pick him. The owners of KKR picked him. Only for the BCCI asking him to be released because of the savage like activities against Hindus by radical Islamists in Bangladesh. Who knows, the directive might have come from the Govt. of India too. Do you remember what they did to Hindus in Bangladesh recently or have you forgotten it?​

we know what they do to muslims in india too

 

[LongHorn]

“Jay Shah's qualifications are that he’s the son of the Indian Home Minister, and that’s it. He’s got no particular vision, no particular skills, he’s not particularly charismatic, he doesn’t have a huge track record.”

- Gideon Haigh, Cricket Author

He is quite ugly, as are most right wingers in that country. Somehow the good looking Indians are mostly nice towards Pakistan

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I love England bro. Atleast I love the country I live. Cant say the same thing for others

Yeah, we could clearly see your love during the India vs England matches.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Ok wait.

@BouncerGuy

 

[Rajdeep]

Running Cricket is nt a business who told you that? The ICC’s official Mission Statement is to strengthen, grow, and protect the game with a core vision of having "more nations enjoying cricket." They often cite Sporting Integrity and fairness as the pillars of their global events. However, there is a clear disconnect when you look at how the financial Model is actually applied. The argument that tournaments must be held in high revenue markets to be successful is proven false by nations like South Africa.Since South Africa hosted the 2007 T20 World Cup, India has been awarded 6 major ICC trophies including upcoming ones In that same period, SA a top tier cricketing nation has been skipped over for nearly two decades for senior men's events. If fairness only applies when it’s financially convenient, the ICC ceases to be a global governing body and becomes a commercial rights manager for its wealthiest members. The ICC recently stated that members must act in the interest of the gobal cricket ecosystem However a healthy ecosystem requires decentralization.True integrity means returning to a model where hosting is a right of membership and not a prize for the highest bidder

LOL wut? If ICC is not a business, what is it? Charity is it?

The fact is to grow and protect the game you need money. 20 teams playing this T20 world cup, only shows cricket has grown. Majority of this money comes from Indian cricket. So ICC cannot organize any tournament by dropping them. If it were so easy, they would have done long time ago.

 

[Rajdeep]

Yeah, we could clearly see your love during the India vs England matches.

Why would I support Eng over India in cricket matches? I am an Indian. Heck, even British Asians who are born and raised in this country supports their homeland. Just like a Brit living in Australia or Hongkong doesnt mean he stop supporting his cricket team.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

LOL wut? If ICC is not a business, what is it? Charity is it?

The fact is to grow and protect the game you need money. 20 teams playing this T20 world cup, only shows cricket has grown. Majority of this money comes from Indian cricket. So ICC cannot organize any tournament by dropping them. If it were so easy, they would have done long time ago.

thats not even point of thid Convo

If you cant understand it thats ok. You keep parroting same thing how India cant be dropped. You do nt need to give me that news