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"You have to treat Bangladesh the same as you treat Pakistan and the same as you treat India": Nasser Hussain

Banda298 said:
Not in 1000 births can he give any taste of any medicine to the country he was actually born in .

He can eloquently protest
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Just one or two births back his DNA was giving 'taste' to our country.

Sometimes before posting seriously do self reflection. It subdues the ego but helps the soul grow.
 
rpant_gabba said:
Why should Nasser’s opinion matter when he didn’t speak up for Zim in 2003? Shouldn’t Zim who has been a full member longer than BD deserve the same consideration Nasser is advocating? Why was he quiet?
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What a stupid comparison.

No one kicked Zimbabwe out. England did not play vs Zimbabwe - they didn’t get kicked out either.

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make, but it’s a muddled mess
 
Rajdeep said:
LOL wut? If ICC is not a business, what is it? Charity is it?

The fact is to grow and protect the game you need money. 20 teams playing this T20 world cup, only shows cricket has grown. Majority of this money comes from Indian cricket. So ICC cannot organize any tournament by dropping them. If it were so easy, they would have done long time ago.
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This is cool - why don’t India leave the international calendar and play 12 months of IPL against each other. No team can compete in ability or financially.

I would be happy with that.
 
TheSultan said:
What a stupid comparison.

No one kicked Zimbabwe out. England did not play vs Zimbabwe - they didn’t get kicked out either.

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make, but it’s a muddled mess
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You are special kinda stupid.

ECB involved politics in cricket in 2003

Kicked Zim out by denying visa to Zim players
 
rpant_gabba said:
You are special kinda stupid.

ECB involved politics in cricket in 2003

Kicked Zim out by denying visa to Zim players
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What exactly are you on about? What visa did Zimbabwe need to travel to their own country 🤪

Do you even know what happened. Stop chatting nonsense and at least google it or something. What an amateur
 
TheSultan said:
What exactly are you on about? What visa did Zimbabwe need to travel to their own country 🤪

Do you even know what happened. Stop chatting nonsense and at least google it or something. What an amateur
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in 2009. Zim had to with draw from t20 WC in Eng
 
Bhaijaan said:
I respect people raising their voicea bout injustice.
I too say it openly Pakistan has been picked on a lot in Cricket and we need to be more fair.

But i have an axe to grind with Sky panelists and will not let these slimy anti hindus get away with it my dear.
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The allegations of being anti-Hindu are deeply concerning. In order to better understand and address these claims, could you please provide any specific repeated examples that imply anti-Hinduism?
 
rpant_gabba said:
in 2009. Zim had to with draw from t20 WC in Eng
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You were talking about 2003. Now take a step back, and a deep breath. Think about what you’re gonna post. Then post it and do a grammar check, it’s hurting my eyes. I don’t recognise bud bud.

There’s a good little boy
 
TheSultan said:
You were talking about 2003. Now take a step back, and a deep breath. Think about what you’re gonna post. Then post it and do a grammar check, it’s hurting my eyes. I don’t recognise bud bud.

There’s a good little boy
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In 2003 Eng, with Nasser in the team refused to play Zim for political reasons

in 2009 WC, Eng denied visa for Zim, once again for political reasons, and they had to withdraw.
 
Rajdeep said:
Any ICC tournament in India is most profitable for ICC. Last T20 WC in USA/WI was a massive loss revenue wise. And you want ICC to stop awarding ICC tournaments to India and make money because of Pakistan?

:klopp
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The last T20 WC in USA/WI was the 2nd most profitable ICC event in history.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Impartial?
:yk

Gideon Haigh is what you call impartial, so is Ricky Ponting.

Nasser Hussain is a Muslim, there is no way he won’t support Pakistan.
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He's never practised as a Muslim, but don't let facts get in the way of a cheap jibe.
 
Rajdeep said:
People have problem with Jay Shah being head of ICC because he is son of Indian home minister.

However, PCBs head is home minister of Pakistan himself who also happens to be ACC chief. However, none of these hypocrites will say anything.

:kp
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This is a fabrication and you know it. There's thousands of posts on here condemning political interference in cricket in Pakistan. Naqvi's dual role has been repeatedly criticised.

However finding Indian posters criticising the fact the ICC Chairman is the son of India's Home Minister, or that cricket has been weaponised for domestic politics by the BJP Govt, is like finding a goldfish that speaks Mandarin.

I'll go far as saying that in virtually every online space, the Indian propensity for uncritical nationalism, North Korean-esque regurgitation of scripted talking points, and abuse towards external critics is unrivalled by any other national group.

Don't worry, you guys won't go to hell for daring to question your country's actions every once in a while.
 
Someone reach out to Nasir Hussain and warn him never to travel to India again. He will now be targeted by the cult and BCCI!
 
rpant_gabba said:
In 2003 Eng, with Nasser in the team refused to play Zim for political reasons

in 2009 WC, Eng denied visa for Zim, once again for political reasons, and they had to withdraw.
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2009, Zimbabwe assumed some of their players would be denied a visa to enter the UK by the UK Government. Visa’s were not actually denied, Zimbabwe didn’t even get to that stage. They pulled their team out before that. Zimbabwe did receive compensation and kept their ICC status.

Quite what any of that has to do with Nasser is beyond me.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
14 out 16 countries voted against Bangladeshis request. That included CA and ECB. Changing schedule of BD at the last minute will.impact everyone that plays BD. Logistical challenges are massive.
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Didn't stop India from demanding a neutral venue for its matches so close to CT25.

If the roles were reversed in the present situation, you know perfectly well these "logistical challenges" would be discarded like a piece of paper at the behest of the BCCI.

As for the 14-2 vote that Indians keep bragging about - I don't believe you guys are naive enough to think there wouldn't have been punitive measures by the BCCI against those daring to oppose it.

The underlying issue going beyond Mustafizur, hosting rights, visas, handshakes etc is that many Indian fans fundamentally wish BCCI to run world cricket as a one-party state just as many of them wish the BJP to run India as a one-party state. There's no room for dissenters. All the protests about unfairness and inequality during the days of Anglo-Australian dominance was just a facade for the real grievance - which was India weren't doing the bullying themselves.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Someone reach out to Nasir Hussain and warn him never to travel to India again. He will now be targeted by the cult and BCCI!
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It’s so ungrateful of India to treat a man who put the Mumbai cricket scene on the map with his excellent documentary like this. 😔
 
Markhor said:
As for the 14-2 vote that Indians keep bragging about - I don't believe you guys are naive enough to think there wouldn't have been punitive measures by the BCCI against those daring to oppose it.
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Yes, ICC votes are a complete farce. They almost always vote unanimously. I would have actually respected it had few others members voted in favor of BD/Pak, like 10-6 or something.
 
BDfanforever said:
Yes, ICC votes are a complete farce. They almost always vote unanimously. I would have actually respected it had few others members voted in favor of BD/Pak, like 10-6 or something.
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They didn't vote in favor of them simply because their demand was not worth entertaining. You can't accuse others for voting according to their choice.​
 
Hitman said:
They didn't vote in favor of them simply because their demand was not worth entertaining. You can't accuse others for voting according to their choice.​
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Sure, but those smaller boards that voted against BD, guess who tours/invites them the most? Its BD, and to some extent Pak. Now after this fiasco, BD will for sure stop inviting them. Their only relevance in ICC going forward will be free handouts from ICC and BCCI.
 
BDfanforever said:
Sure, but those smaller boards that voted against BD, guess who tours/invites them the most? It’s BD, and to some extent Pak. Now after this fiasco, BD will for sure stop inviting them. Their only relevance in ICC going forward will be free handouts from ICC and BCCI.
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Your board needs to stay firm. InshaAllah Pakistan will handle this but we can’t have BD board members and their journalists playing cloak and dagger with us.
 
BDfanforever said:
Sure, but those smaller boards that voted against BD, guess who tours/invites them the most? Its BD, and to some extent Pak. Now after this fiasco, BD will for sure stop inviting them. Their only relevance in ICC going forward will be free handouts from ICC and BCCI.
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Who pays for those tours? BD economy? Those tours are possible becos of ICC distribution which is possible becos BCCI cooperation

I doubt those boards really give a crap about BD tours
 
BDfanforever said:
Yes, ICC votes are a complete farce. They almost always vote unanimously. I would have actually respected it had few others members voted in favor of BD/Pak, like 10-6 or something.
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They didn't vote for you because last minute childish behaviour from Bangladesh wasn't going to be entertained.
 
Markhor said:
Didn't stop India from demanding a neutral venue for its matches so close to CT25.

If the roles were reversed in the present situation, you know perfectly well these "logistical challenges" would be discarded like a piece of paper at the behest of the BCCI.

As for the 14-2 vote that Indians keep bragging about - I don't believe you guys are naive enough to think there wouldn't have been punitive measures by the BCCI against those daring to oppose it.

The underlying issue going beyond Mustafizur, hosting rights, visas, handshakes etc is that many Indian fans fundamentally wish BCCI to run world cricket as a one-party state just as many of them wish the BJP to run India as a one-party state. There's no room for dissenters. All the protests about unfairness and inequality during the days of Anglo-Australian dominance was just a facade for the real grievance - which was India weren't doing the bullying themselves.
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No, the situation wasn’t a case of last‑minute demands. The notice was given well in advance. In fact, the Champions Trophy schedule wasn’t even finalized at that stage. It was only after India formally confirmed that they would not travel to Pakistan that the schedule was drawn up. Under those circumstances, there really wasn’t a logistical challenge.

It’s also worth remembering that India hasn’t toured Pakistan in over a decade, so it was widely expected that they would decline to travel now as well. During this period, it has actually been Pakistan that has toured India twice.

Regarding the hybrid model, I wasn’t in favor of it either. Ideally, India would have withdrawn altogether. However, as the designated host, Pakistan faced significant legal and financial exposure if the tournament fell apart. The hybrid model emerged as a compromise to prevent that outcome.

As for the current discussion, it’s important not to overstate things. No one is threatening anyone. The schedule was released in January, which means the teams scheduled to play Bangladesh had already prepared accordingly. Asking them to suddenly shift their matches to Sri Lanka created unnecessary complications.


Both the BCB and PCB have, at times, acted in ways that prioritize their own interests without fully considering the broader implications for other boards. India, in contrast, would be the least affected financially, given that they generate 70–80% of global cricket revenue while receiving only 38% of it. The real impact falls on the smaller boards, which rely heavily on ICC revenue distribution during major events.
 
RexRex said:
They didn't vote for you because last minute childish behaviour from Bangladesh wasn't going to be entertained.
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Their schedule would also be affected. Once the fixtures were announced, requesting a venue change inevitably created complications for the teams scheduled to play Bangladesh, as well as for spectators who had already purchased tickets. For example, West Indies were set to face Bangladesh at Eden Gardens. A sudden shift in Bangladesh’s matches would mean that Eden Gardens could no longer host that fixture.


Bangladesh plays three matches at Eden Gardens due to its proximity, and one at Wankhede. If those matches were moved to Sri Lanka, Eden Gardens would lose three games, and Sri Lanka would need to prepare an additional venue on short notice. When Sri Lanka hosts Ireland in Colombo, they would simultaneously be required to accommodate another match for Bangladesh, adding further strain to their logistics.


From a practical standpoint, these disruptions would understandably raise concerns. Anyone looking at the broader operational impact would question the feasibility of such last‑minute changes.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Their schedule would also be affected. Once the fixtures were announced, requesting a venue change inevitably created complications for the teams scheduled to play Bangladesh, as well as for spectators who had already purchased tickets. For example, West Indies were set to face Bangladesh at Eden Gardens. A sudden shift in Bangladesh’s matches would mean that Eden Gardens could no longer host that fixture.


Bangladesh plays three matches at Eden Gardens due to its proximity, and one at Wankhede. If those matches were moved to Sri Lanka, Eden Gardens would lose three games, and Sri Lanka would need to prepare an additional venue on short notice. When Sri Lanka hosts Ireland in Colombo, they would simultaneously be required to accommodate another match for Bangladesh, adding further strain to their logistics.


From a practical standpoint, these disruptions would understandably raise concerns. Anyone looking at the broader operational impact would question the feasibility of such last‑minute changes.
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Just for an FYI, Bangladesh is sending their Shooting team to India.

www.aljazeera.com

Bangladesh approves shooting team India tour, days after T20 World Cup ban

Bangladesh cricket lost their place at T20 World Cup after refusal to play in India, but shooting team heads to Delhi.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

Same minister denied the cricket team. I guess shooters live are worth less than cricketers. So much politics man ... this game is ruined with politics from everyone.
 
light said:
Just for an FYI, Bangladesh is sending their Shooting team to India.

www.aljazeera.com

Bangladesh approves shooting team India tour, days after T20 World Cup ban

Bangladesh cricket lost their place at T20 World Cup after refusal to play in India, but shooting team heads to Delhi.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

Same minister denied the cricket team. I guess shooters live are worth less than cricketers. So much politics man ... this game is ruined with politics from everyone.
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The decision was a hasty, thoughtless decision. Their fans are inventing reasons to justify it.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
The decision was a hasty, thoughtless decision. Their fans are inventing reasons to justify it.
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I am all for not sending a team due to safety issue - but giving 1 team a go ahead and another a no, can someone from the BD side explain this? Though pak is doing this for thier own interest - not much to do with Banglandesh, i feel like they are about to fall into a trap at this point ...
 
To be fair I think Bangladesh did the right thing by not touring India. Tensions are high, so many Indians in India wouldve watched those Bangladeshi converts do their atrocities to the Hindus recently, Indians as a whole lot wouldn't be in the mindset to see the kitty kats on their home soil. I for one am glad they didn't step foot in India...
 
Yeah, grumpy old hag Nasser evenly balanced with his Perennial vicim chip on both shoulders playing his usual india baiting....

Yawn!!
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
Yeah, grumpy old hag Nasser evenly balanced with his Perennial vicim chip on both shoulders playing his usual india baiting....

Yawn!!
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Cricket Warrior said:
Nasser Hussain exposed the double standards of the ICC on the podcast:

"I guess the real comparison would be, and this is the real question that only the ICC can answer: If it had been India, and in the future, if India, a month before a tournament, say our government does not want us to go and play in that country in a World Cup, would the ICC have been so firm and say, 'You know the rules, bad luck, we’re knocking you out'?"

"That is the only question that all sides ask for is consistency. You have to treat Bangladesh the same as you treat Pakistan and the same as you treat India. India fans will say, 'Cry more, we have the money, it’s all down [to us],' but with power comes responsibility. If you are constantly knocking Bangladesh or Pakistan, their cricket diminishes, and hence those great games that we’ve seen in the past between India and Pakistan or India and Bangladesh become one-sided, as they have done."

"I would argue that the politics is obviously spreading through franchise cricket. You know, are franchises with Indian owners picking Pakistan players now, and will they pick Bangladesh players in their franchise teams? It's worth keeping an eye on now that there are four of those teams owned by IPL owners. That’s the game shooting itself in the foot, isn’t it?"

"If your Pakistan players are not playing in franchises, then you see other countries playing in SA20 and how their cricket’s going through the roof. I’m amazed how well Pakistan have done and continue to do with everything that they’re working against. I actually quite like Bangladesh sticking to their guns. They stood up for their player, 'The Fiz' [Mustafizur Rahman]. And I quite like Pakistan—I know it’s political—sticking up for Bangladesh."

"At some stage, someone’s got to say, 'Enough with this politics. Can we just get back to playing cricket?' The only way Pakistan can hurt the ICC or even India is with the money and the finances of that India-Pakistan game."
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Well said!
 
I wish more prominent cricket observers had the courage to call this out.

Good on Nasser.
 
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Dinesh Karthik said, “I genuinely thought Pakistan would qualify for semis purely because they've played consistently in Colombo, stayed in one hotel, know the same pitches and both Nasser and Athers fossil sits that's one of the main reasons why India did so well in Champions Trophy last year by that same accord Pakistan should have done something in this World Cup, but clearly it works for one team it doesn't so there's a genuine lack of skill there”. (Sky Sports).

@Rajdeep @Nikhil_cric @jnaveen1980 @Hitman @Vikram1989

Guys , be sure to watch the video. Kartik thoroughly thrashed Hussain and Athar. Their faces looked like they were about to cry. Ha ha ha! Well done, DK!

:klopp :kp
 
Devadwal said:
Dinesh Karthik said, “I genuinely thought Pakistan would qualify for semis purely because they've played consistently in Colombo, stayed in one hotel, know the same pitches and both Nasser and Athers fossil sits that's one of the main reasons why India did so well in Champions Trophy last year by that same accord Pakistan should have done something in this World Cup, but clearly it works for one team it doesn't so there's a genuine lack of skill there”. (Sky Sports).

@Rajdeep @Nikhil_cric @jnaveen1980 @Hitman @Vikram1989

Guys , be sure to watch the video. Kartik thoroughly thrashed Hussain and Athar. Their faces looked like they were about to cry. Ha ha ha! Well done, DK!

:klopp :kp
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Link?
 
Please do us a favour Nasser Hussein, we don’t want you to ever speak anything about our country because every time you open your mouth about us, the credibility of our argument goes down considerably. Your poor reputation for being an ordinary and biased commentator makes it worse for us whenever we are in the middle of a diplomatic conflict and need public support.
 
Devadwal said:
Dinesh Karthik said, “I genuinely thought Pakistan would qualify for semis purely because they've played consistently in Colombo, stayed in one hotel, know the same pitches and both Nasser and Athers fossil sits that's one of the main reasons why India did so well in Champions Trophy last year by that same accord Pakistan should have done something in this World Cup, but clearly it works for one team it doesn't so there's a genuine lack of skill there”. (Sky Sports).

@Rajdeep @Nikhil_cric @jnaveen1980 @Hitman @Vikram1989

Guys , be sure to watch the video. Kartik thoroughly thrashed Hussain and Athar. Their faces looked like they were about to cry. Ha ha ha! Well done, DK!

:klopp :kp
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Cheers for the link, having watched it I think it was all banter amongst mates you would do in a pub or social setting in the UK. Roasting and touch of taking the Mickey out of Nass and Athers, nothing more than that.

DK's well on his way to becoming an assimilated honorary Brit
:nasser
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
As I said earlier, Nasser is biased.
We can see how he had tears in his eyes when Pak won CT in 17.

Not blaming him here though, you gotta support your religion.
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They weren't wrong. You put any of the top teams in that position, and they will walk the trophy home. South Africa destroyed your lot in Ahmedabad having been based there throughout their World Cup, so understanding and playing in the same conditions makes a huge difference.

Karthik thinks too much of Pakistan to extrapolate this situation to what India faced in the CT. Pakistan is a garbage team, and they will find ways to lose even if you give them a million advantages. His 'roast' would have been valid had Nasser and Atherton specifically mentioned Pakistan having a good tournament, but sadly for you stupid lot they did not.

Hence proved yet again, that India could have the best cricket team and the best cricket infrastructure but their insecurity complex will always prevail.
 
Yes, nobody really misses any team. Aus got KO in the group stage itself, life and tournament moved on. IND got KO in group stage in 2007 WC, life and tournament moved on. WI was also missing last ODI WC, tournament still moved on.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
As I said earlier, Nasser is biased.
We can see how he had tears in his eyes when Pak won CT in 17.

Not blaming him here though, you gotta support your religion.
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What a clownish thing to say considering his dad is Indian. I don't even know if he is a practicing Muslim. Apparently it’s impossible for someone to criticise India’s role in the running of international cricket without it being reduced to religion or dismissed as bias.
 
As long as India are in charge, you are unlikely to get fairness.

Anytime India control something, you can expect to see caste-like discrimination. :inti
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
What a clownish thing to say considering his dad is Indian. I don't even know if he is a practicing Muslim. Apparently it’s impossible for someone to criticise India’s role in the running of international cricket without it being reduced to religion or dismissed as bias.
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I have both seen and heard him enough to understand what his real feelings are.

He was about to cry in that Ct17 match.
 
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