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I was having this discussion with couple of my friends. This thread is not about what is actually going to be the playing eleven for your country, but the eleven you think, can bring WC home.

I’ll start with India-

1. Shikhar Dhawan (Gun ICC tournaments opener)
2. Rohit Sharma (ATG ODI opener)
3. Virat Kohli ( ATG ODI batsman, candidate of GOAT)
4. Prithvi Shaw ( Inexperienced but based on potential I’ll have him over Rayudu, Jadhav, Karthik any day even its KO WC match)
5. Shubhman Gill (Same reason as Shaw)
6. Rishabh Pant (Anybody but Dhoni)
7. Hardik Pandya (Automatic selection as a Fast bowling AR)
8. Ravindra Jadeja/Bhuvneshwar Kumar( Either one of them Based on conditions)
9. Kuldeep Yadav( Gun LOI spinner)
10. Jaspreet Bumrah( Do i need to say anything?)
11. Mohammad Shami ( Best among the rest)


Alas, We have to bear the mediocrity of Mahendra-Grandpa-Dhoni, Kedar-I’m Fat and useless-Jadhav, Dinesh-I don’t know why I’m in the team-Karthik. :(
 
I will post what I wish to see a Pakistani eleven for the world cup


Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Shoaib Malik
Umar Akmal
Mohammad Hafeez
Sarfraz Ahmed (C & WK) unfortunately
Shadab Khan
Faheem Ashraf
Mohammad Amir
Hassan Ali / Shaheen Shah Afridi

Reserves:

Junaid Khan
Asif Ali
Saad Ali
Imad Wasim
SSA / Hassan Ali

I think this team has everything to reach atleast till semis in my opinion rest up to inzi :sarf2 the legendary :)
 
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OneTip-OneHand said:
I was having this discussion with couple of my friends. This thread is not about what is actually going to be the playing eleven for your country, but the eleven you think, can bring WC home.

I’ll start with India-

1. Shikhar Dhawan (Gun ICC tournaments opener)
2. Rohit Sharma (ATG ODI opener)
3. Virat Kohli ( ATG ODI batsman, candidate of GOAT)
4. Prithvi Shaw ( Inexperienced but based on potential I’ll have him over Rayudu, Jadhav, Karthik any day even its KO WC match)
5. Shubhman Gill (Same reason as Shaw)
6. Rishabh Pant (Anybody but Dhoni)
7. Hardik Pandya (Automatic selection as a Fast bowling AR)
8. Ravindra Jadeja/Bhuvneshwar Kumar( Either one of them Based on conditions)
9. Kuldeep Yadav( Gun LOI spinner)
10. Jaspreet Bumrah( Do i need to say anything?)
11. Mohammad Shami ( Best among the rest)


Alas, We have to bear the mediocrity of Mahendra-Grandpa-Dhoni, Kedar-I’m Fat and useless-Jadhav, Dinesh-I don’t know why I’m in the team-Karthik. :(
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Shaw and Gill are.considered openers. They have not played a single LOI game yet. They have not played any domestic limited over games in the middle order. So this team is a bust
 
1.Rohit Sharma
2.Shikhar Dhawan
3.Virat Kohli
4.Prithivi Shaw
5.Manish Pandey
6.Rishabh Pant (wk)
7.Hardik Pandya
8.Ravindra Jadeja/Bhuvneshwar Kumar
9.Kuldeep Yadav
10.Mohammad Shami
11.Jasprit Bumrah
 
1. Soumya
2. Liton
3. Tamim
4. Mushi+
5. Shakib
6. Mahmudullah
7. Sabbir
8. Miraz/Saifullah (depending on condition, most likely Saifullah, because Mahmudullah can bowl offie)
9. *Mashrafee, MP :(
10. Taskin/Khaleq (Or a new ball pacer - there are few to pick from, not sure whom. Not Rubel for UK)
11. Mustafiz
 
1.Fakhar Zaman
2.Shan Masood (c)
3.Babar Azam
4.Haris Sohail
5.Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
6.Mohammad Hafeez
7.Hussain Talat
8.Shadab Khan
9.Faheem Ashraf
10.Mohammad Amir
11.Shaheen Afridi
 
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This is my choice (don't bother what they finally select)

For IND:

1. Dhawan
2. Sharma
3. *Kohli
4. Manish
5. MSD+
6. Pant (as batsman, MSD in better WK)
7. Pandeya
8. BK/Jadeja (Depending on condition)
9. Kuldeep
10. Shami
11. JB
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For PAK:

1. Shan
2. Babar
3. Fakhar
4. Haris
5. Umar (Akmal)
6. Rizwan+
7. Shadab
8. Amad/Irfan Leggi/Gohar (Depending on condition & opponents batting combination)
9. *Amir
10. Hasan
11. Shaheen
 
MMHS said:
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For PAK:

1. Shan
2. Babar
3. Fakhar
4. Haris
5. Umar (Akmal)
6. Rizwan+
7. Shadab
8. Amad/Irfan Leggi/Gohar (Depending on condition & opponents batting combination)
9. *Amir
10. Hasan
11. Shaheen
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Shadab at 7 is weak... He is fine at 7 for Tests not for ODI
 
For Pak
Shan(c)
Fakhar
Bobby
Haris
Rizwan
Shadab
Malik
Faheem
Amir
Hasan
Shaheen

For Ind
Shikhar
Rohit
Kohli
Iyer
Gill
Dhoni
Pandya
Bhuvi
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Shami
 
rhony said:
Shaw and Gill are.considered openers. They have not played a single LOI game yet. They have not played any domestic limited over games in the middle order. So this team is a bust
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Yes they are ‘considered’ openers. However both have shown that they are stroke players. So bust or not I’ll take the risk to have both them in my team rather than having snail pace dhoni , jadhav, rayudu or DK.
 
MMHS said:
This is my choice (don't bother what they finally select)

For IND:

1. Dhawan
2. Sharma
3. *Kohli
4. Manish
5. MSD+
6. Pant (as batsman, MSD in better WK)
7. Pandeya
8. BK/Jadeja (Depending on condition)
9. Kuldeep
10. Shami
11. JB
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For PAK:

1. Shan
2. Babar
3. Fakhar
4. Haris
5. Umar (Akmal)
6. Rizwan+
7. Shadab
8. Amad/Irfan Leggi/Gohar (Depending on condition & opponents batting combination)
9. *Amir
10. Hasan
11. Shaheen
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No Faheem Ashraf?
 
MMHS said:
1. Soumya
2. Liton
3. Tamim
4. Mushi+
5. Shakib
6. Mahmudullah
7. Sabbir
8. Miraz/Saifullah (depending on condition, most likely Saifullah, because Mahmudullah can bowl offie)
9. *Mashrafee, MP :(
10. Taskin/Khaleq (Or a new ball pacer - there are few to pick from, not sure whom. Not Rubel for UK)
11. Mustafiz
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Zakir and Saifuddin?
 
What I wish to see:-

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Gill
Pant(wkt)
Jadhav
Pandya
Kuldeep
Bhuvi
Shami
Bumrah
 
Shan
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Umar Akmal
Rizwan
Faheem/ or another spinner dependent on conditions
Shadab
Amir
Hasan
Shaheen
 
Ab Fan said:
What I wish to see:-

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Gill
Pant(wkt)
Jadhav
Pandya
Kuldeep
Bhuvi
Shami
Bumrah
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I'd swap Pant and Jadav's spots but it's a gun team. U just named India's team after the WC.
 
Chokli said:
1.Fakhar Zaman
2.Shan Masood (c)
3.Babar Azam
4.Haris Sohail
5.Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
6.Mohammad Hafeez
7.Hussain Talat
8.Shadab Khan
9.Faheem Ashraf
10.Mohammad Amir
11.Shaheen Afridi
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Very strong team, I’ve never thought of this. The batting depth is insane, even if the team falls 4 or 5 down after 20-25 overs Hafeez and Talat have the ability to rebuild the innings.

Amir and Shaheen with the new ball, Faheem, Shadab,Talat and Hafeez all sharing the middle overs. It’s a very strong team.
 
rhony said:
I'd swap Pant and Jadav's spots but it's a gun team. U just named India's team after the WC.
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Unfortunately, the chance of this team for WC 19 is 0% and I think after WC, Jadhav will eventually be replaced by Krunal Or someone else. Or perhaps rotated between some players as well as Jadhav.
 
Good thread, as not specific for any country, welcoming for all countries, although understandbly this thread is dominated by India and Pakistanis. Would be interesting to see what fans of other countries want as their ideal playing XI?
 
Dhawan
Rohit
Kohli
Gill
Pant
Pandya K
Pandya H
Bhuvi
Kuldeep
Shami/Chahal depending on pitch
Bumrah

12th man: gun fielder Jadeja

Other squad members assuming 16 member squad: Shaw (back up opener), Karthik (reserve wicket keeper), Khaleel (to give practice in nets with his angles), best swing bowler in domestic form-wise

Apply England's formula. 7 good batting options (3 LHBs in top 7) plus Bhuvi if things get messy. 6 bowling options (well rounded) and a terrific fielding team. Our only chance is with this formula.
 
Rayyman said:
Zakir and Saifuddin?
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Spell check in iPhone - Saifullah/Saifuddin same guy. Zak is 21, has enough time in future- he might be in squad as back WK & batsman, but we already have Liton in playing XI.
 
Pakistan

Shan Masood (c)
Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Umar Akmal (wk)
Shoaib Malik
Faheem Ashraf
Shadab Khan
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Junaid Khan
 
MMHS said:
1. Soumya
2. Liton
3. Tamim
4. Mushi+
5. Shakib
6. Mahmudullah
7. Sabbir
8. Miraz/Saifullah (depending on condition, most likely Saifullah, because Mahmudullah can bowl offie)
9. *Mashrafee, MP :(
10. Taskin/Khaleq (Or a new ball pacer - there are few to pick from, not sure whom. Not Rubel for UK)
11. Mustafiz
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For bowling it will be Taskin, Khaled, Mashrafe, and Saifuddin. Fizz cutters wont do jack in English condition. We also need a deep batting lineup that can put close to 300 runs.

Pace bowling all rounders are in high demand these days. Hopefully fame doesnt get to Saifuddin head. Problem is BD players are lazy.
 
Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Gill
Pant(wkt)
Jadhav
Pandya
Kuldeep
Chahal/Bhuvi
Shami
Bumrah

But I know Grandpa Shameless will play so he will bat at four i guess. :((
 
OneTip-OneHand said:
No Faheem Ashraf?
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Just don’t think he adds extra dimension- I am actually disappointed with his batting. If he is to bat like a tail-ender, his bowling isn’t good enough for UK. May be for UAE it’s working, but 5’7” fast medium (at most) pacer isn’t going to add much; Hasan is already there. So, I went for the taller & faster guy who should be a much better 1st change with 2 balls. And, Amad is probably better hitter as well.

For venues in London & Cardif a 2nd spinner is must - 2 leggi is a bit risky, but Haris also can cover for SLAO, hence Irfan 1st preference, can bat as well.
 
BDfanforever said:
For bowling it will be Taskin, Khaled, Mashrafe, and Saifuddin. Fizz cutters wont do jack in English condition. We also need a deep batting lineup that can put close to 300 runs.

Pace bowling all rounders are in high demand these days. Hopefully fame doesnt get to Saifuddin head. Problem is BD players are lazy.
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A fit Mustafizur is a brilliant end bowler for his intelligence- just yesterday defended 8 in last over under heavy dew (conceded only 2!!). MP will open bowling - in a 4 pacers combination, Mustafiz gives an unique variety. On drier surface 2 spinners play, but Mustafiz also will be effective there for wicket taking, so remains.
 
Chokli said:
Shadab at 7 is weak... He is fine at 7 for Tests not for ODI
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He is much better than anyone at 7 who can bowl. Yes, he is better bat than Imad. You are thinking him a better Test #7 considering the SR, but PAK doesn’t have anyone like Butler, Maxwell, Anderson or Russell for no 7; it has to be gradually buildup run rate.

I explain it with BD batting - we don’t have any bluster, but do have a decent batting depth; so players like Tamim, Mushi, Shakib, Mahmudullah tries to keep the asking rate close all through (or bat at a higher rate from start and f setting a target), even risking more wickets. If we end up at 280; be sure that after 40 overs, run has to be around 200+ : 80 in any 10 over slot is probably our max. PAK has to do exactly same, and in my line up there is decent depth as well to cover 1/2 extra wickets.

But, it didn’t work in past for selfish players batting in top 6 - consumed too many balls early & then got out leaving at wrong time - that has been the career story of Misbah, moha, Ahmed, Sarfraz, Asad, Azhar, even Babar. These players bat at 80 SR max & they are not Amla - average ~35, which means almost every time in a tight game they’ll leave at wrong time. What PAK have to do is factor Rizwan, Shadab, Amad, Amir & Hasan from 6-10 - that’s quite capable bottom half to score say 100, in last 15 overs, but it’s not like A Razzak, Afridi, Moin, Akram - they can’t score 100 in last 8-10 overs; so the acceleration has to start early - that’s why in my team Babar opens and is allowed to bat for 50 overs; Fakhar comes at 3 to keep momentum against spinners & Umar comes at 5 to start rotating from ball 1, hit boundary as well if anything loose. Ideally this lineup should target to reach 200 by 38th overs with 5 down - then they can post 285+ target, which should be enough almost every where.

I can put Shadab at 8 and bring a batting all rounder like moha, Malik or Yamin at 7 - overall productivity will be negative. It reduces bowling strength significantly; but that extra batsman will be wasted in any case - if it’s 233-5, after 44’3, no 7 won’t score 24 ball 59 (none of them are that good - Hasan is better at that point, can swing couple of sixes) if it’s 57-5, these moha, Malik, Yamin are not going to score a 100 to take it to 275+; their limit is a safe 65 to take it to 245/9 max.

ODI is a bowling game - if top order bats properly, one partnership is enough to bat out full overs; but a bowler can bowl only 10. A batting heavy PAK won’t ever be successful because that culture is not there, neither the batsman. PAK’s best strategy is to make bowling 50 overs solid & make the game operating between 250-275 level max. Put Shadab at 11 to lengthen batting lineup (means moha, Malik, Imad, Yamin comes early), on a 300 per condition, 9 times out of 10; PAK will fail to chase 290 - those Javed, Zaheer, Saeed, Inzi’s days are over. This is my fundamental argument with Arthur’s tactics in ODI and PAK is at 1-9 run against top 8 teams last year (it’ll go further after SAF series). Only time they did something (CT) - it’s the bowlers made it 225-250 level game and batting depth didn’t matter - even Amir, Sarfraz managed an asking of ~5 perfectly for 12 overs.

Think the game from the core strength of a team, not what is ideal - if Asif was genuine Butler, my script would have been different.
 
iPakistani said:
Very strong team, I’ve never thought of this. The batting depth is insane, even if the team falls 4 or 5 down after 20-25 overs Hafeez and Talat have the ability to rebuild the innings.

Amir and Shaheen with the new ball, Faheem, Shadab,Talat and Hafeez all sharing the middle overs. It’s a very strong team.
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Batting is strong but bowling is weak without Hasan. You need 4 proper bowlers for 40 overs. The other 10 can be shared between Hafeez, Talat etc. Can't have Fahim for Hasan. Can't have Talat and Fahim. Fahim misses out
 
Fakhar
Shan/Asif
Babar
Umar Akmal (WK)
Malik
Hafeez
Faheem
Shadab
Hasan
Amir
Junaid
 
1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Shan Masood
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Muhammad Rizwan
6. Shoaib Malik
7. Shadab Khan
8. Faheem Ashraf
9. M Amir
10. Hasan Ali
11. Shaheen Afridi
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Because people are finally opening their eyes?
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What has he done to make people open their eyes? Just because Sarfraz has failed in the tests doesn't mean he will fail in ODIs. Wait till the ODIs are finished before making such a quick judgements.
 
Pakistan must go with their strengths and pack the bowling stocks. It's irrelevant how long the tail is, we cannot win a world cup with our batting even we bat til no.10.

Picking a side based on a realistic chance of actually going to England.

Shaan Masood
Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Shoaib Malik
Safaraz Ahmed (WK/C)
Shadab Khan
Faheem Ashraf
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Shaheen Shah Afridi

Bench: Hafeez, Shinwari, Imad, Asif Ali

Analysis:

Shaan and Fakhar are the best opening option we've got in Pakistan. Should be a solid pair throughout, but if someone looks horribly out of form Hafeez is the back up. Haris and Babar must play at 3 and 4 - it would be a travesty to play Hafeez and Malik in the same team and lose one or the other. The lower lacks hitters, but Safaraz and Malik should look to hit gaps and run hard to score 8rpo in the last 10. However, should it start looking like we will need a hitter to win games in England, Asif Ali will have a role to play. 5 bowlers have been selected to bowl 10 overs each, with support from Haris/Malik if neccesary.

This team should aim for slightly above par scores and then restrict chasing sides.
 
CadPakFan said:
What has he done to make people open their eyes? Just because Sarfraz has failed in the tests doesn't mean he will fail in ODIs. Wait till the ODIs are finished before making such a quick judgements.
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Check his recent domestic stats.

Sarfaraz has also failed in the ODI’s, with an average of 24.4 in 2018.

Also, let’s not forget he was the captain in the Asia Cup, and we all remember what happened there.

In 2018, Pakistan won 8 ODI’s and lost 9.

5 of those wins coming against Zimbabwe, 1 against Hong Kong, 1 against Afghanistan and 1 against New Zealand.

The fact that Sarfraz is averaging 24, when mostly playing against Zimbabwe, shows you how badly he’s failed. And, the reason for his failure is due to his batting position, he’s not a power hitter, he’s an accumulator whose batting down the order.

Sarfraz needs to be replaced by Umar Akmal, as Umar Akmal is the better batsman. The downfall here is that sarfraz isn’t a bad keeper, especially for Pakistan’s standard.
 
India

Shikhar Dhawan
Rohit Sharma
Virat Kohli
Shubman Gill
Shreyas Iyer
Dinesh Karthik/ Rishabh Pant
Jadeja / Pandya ( depending on conditions)
Bhuvaneshwar Kumar
Jasprit Bumrah
Mohammed Shami
Kuldeep Yadav

But chances of this team is a flat zero and we have to bear Rayudu, Jadav, Dhoni in the middle order. :facepalm:
 
MMHS said:
1. Soumya
2. Liton
3. Tamim
4. Mushi+
5. Shakib
6. Mahmudullah
7. Sabbir
8. Miraz/Saifullah (depending on condition, most likely Saifullah, because Mahmudullah can bowl offie)
9. *Mashrafee, MP :(
10. Taskin/Khaleq (Or a new ball pacer - there are few to pick from, not sure whom. Not Rubel for UK)
11. Mustafiz
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Sabbir has a very poor odi record, averaging like Ashraful. I don’t think he should be anywhere near the team, he is the Hardik Pandya of the team.
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
Sabbir has a very poor odi record, averaging like Ashraful. I don’t think he should be anywhere near the team, he is the Hardik Pandya of the team.
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May be Ariful then - it's about the role profile of No. 7 and Mosaddek, Mithun, Anamul,Zakir, Imrul ..... doesn't fit in that. Sabbir fields brilliantly as well.
 
It is better to post here after PSL. Rizwan Hussain, Umar Akmal, Saud Shakeel etc can still make it to WC with outstanding performances in PSL.
 
For Pakistan I would say they need to get serious and look at their options after PSL. Don't get me wrong but if the likes of Kamran and Umar Akmal score heavily in PSL then Mickey needs put his ego aside and they should be in the plans for World Cup. Rizwan should also be given a go considering his brilliant domestic form.
 
I wish this team

Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Malik (c)
Rizwan (wk)
Hafeez
Shadab
Amir
Hasan
Shaheen
Junaid

Bench: Saud, Faheem, Imad, Masood
 
I donno why , so much hate against Sarfaraz , the One Day Captain , he might be struggling in tests , but he is an amazing limited overs Captain. So i would probably go with

1- Fakhar
2- Hafeez
3- Babar
4-Sarfraz (c)(wk)
5-Malik
6- Asif Ali
7-Faheem
8-Shadab
9- Imad/shinwari
10- Hassan Ali
11- Amir
 
1.Fakhar Zaman
2.Shan Masood/Imam Ul-Haq
3.Babar Azam
4.Sarfraz Ahmed(wk)(c)
5.Shoaib Malik
6.Mohammed Hafeez
7.Shadab Khan
8.Faheem Ashraf
9.Mohammad Amir
10.Hasan Ali
11.Shaheen Afridi/Usman Shinwari

I think that's probably the best combination of talent/experience we have heading into the WC. If Hafeez commits to playing attacking cricket then he can be a real asset at 6 because he gives Sarfraz a good 6th bowling option and he's always been a good timer of the ball. Sarfraz at 4 is probably where he is best suited and if he fails we have the safety net of Malik behind him. The spots up for grabs are second opener and third seamer and the tour to England before the WC should help decide those spots heading in.
 
OneTip-OneHand said:
I was having this discussion with couple of my friends. This thread is not about what is actually going to be the playing eleven for your country, but the eleven you think, can bring WC home.

I’ll start with India-

1. Shikhar Dhawan (Gun ICC tournaments opener)
2. Rohit Sharma (ATG ODI opener)
3. Virat Kohli ( ATG ODI batsman, candidate of GOAT)
4. Prithvi Shaw ( Inexperienced but based on potential I’ll have him over Rayudu, Jadhav, Karthik any day even its KO WC match)
5. Shubhman Gill (Same reason as Shaw)
6. Rishabh Pant (Anybody but Dhoni)
7. Hardik Pandya (Automatic selection as a Fast bowling AR)
8. Ravindra Jadeja/Bhuvneshwar Kumar( Either one of them Based on conditions)
9. Kuldeep Yadav( Gun LOI spinner)
10. Jaspreet Bumrah( Do i need to say anything?)
11. Mohammad Shami ( Best among the rest)


Alas, We have to bear the mediocrity of Mahendra-Grandpa-Dhoni, Kedar-I’m Fat and useless-Jadhav, Dinesh-I don’t know why I’m in the team-Karthik. :(
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Ideally if Shaw, Gill and even Pant were part of world cup plans they should have been in the playing 11 in Australia right now.. the unfortunate truth is Dhoni and his cronies will play and we will lose in SF or Final because the top three will bust in one of those matches.
 
Since no-one has done this team I would like to showcase my ideal England 11

1. Jason Roy
2. Jonny Bairstow
3. Joe Root
4. Eoin Morgan (C)
5. Moeen Ali
6. Ben Stokes
7. Jos Buttler (WK)
8. Sam Curran
9. Tom Curran/Chris Woakes
10. Chris Jordan
11. Adil Rashid
 
TeymurBlake said:
Since no-one has done this team I would like to showcase my ideal England 11

1. Jason Roy
2. Jonny Bairstow
3. Joe Root
4. Eoin Morgan (C)
5. Moeen Ali
6. Ben Stokes
7. Jos Buttler (WK)
8. Sam Curran
9. Tom Curran/Chris Woakes
10. Chris Jordan
11. Adil Rashid
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Archer?
 
1) Tamim
2) Liton Superstar Das
3) Mehedi Miraz
4) Mushfiq
5) Shakib
6) Soumya Sarkar
7) Mahmudullah
8) Mohammed Ashraful aka Lance Klusener
9) Mashrafee
10) Taskin
11) Rubel
 
Fakhar Zaman
Shan Masood/Imam (whoever is performing the best in the next few games)
Babar
Haris
Shoaib Malik
Mohammad Hafeez (This is the position pak is really struggling with) . . need a BATTING all rounded
Sarfaraz
Shadab
Hasan
Amir
Shaheen
 
MMHS said:
May be Ariful then - it's about the role profile of No. 7 and Mosaddek, Mithun, Anamul,Zakir, Imrul ..... doesn't fit in that. Sabbir fields brilliantly as well.
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I don’t know man, I was watching BPL and it seems like Sabbir is out of form. And it’s sad that we don’t have any talent. Miraz is doing all right with the bat, maybe we can give him a chance at one down
 
As things stand with Dhoni guaranteeing his place,

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Gill
Dhoni
Kedar
Pandya
Bhuvi / Jadeja / Chahal
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
 
Pakistan Squad must be,

01. Fakhar Zaman
02. Shan Masood
03. Babar Azam
04. Shoaib Malik (C)
05. Mohammad Hafeez
06. Umar Akmal (Wk)
07. Hussain Talat
08. Shadab Khan
09. Mohammad Aamer
10. Hasan Ali
11. Shaheen Afridi

Bench:
12. Imad Wasim
13. Fahim Ashraf
14. Usman Shinwari
15. Haris Sohail (if fit) or Asif Ali
 
MMHS said:
He is much better than anyone at 7 who can bowl. Yes, he is better bat than Imad. You are thinking him a better Test #7 considering the SR, but PAK doesn’t have anyone like Butler, Maxwell, Anderson or Russell for no 7; it has to be gradually buildup run rate.

I explain it with BD batting - we don’t have any bluster, but do have a decent batting depth; so players like Tamim, Mushi, Shakib, Mahmudullah tries to keep the asking rate close all through (or bat at a higher rate from start and f setting a target), even risking more wickets. If we end up at 280; be sure that after 40 overs, run has to be around 200+ : 80 in any 10 over slot is probably our max. PAK has to do exactly same, and in my line up there is decent depth as well to cover 1/2 extra wickets.

But, it didn’t work in past for selfish players batting in top 6 - consumed too many balls early & then got out leaving at wrong time - that has been the career story of Misbah, moha, Ahmed, Sarfraz, Asad, Azhar, even Babar. These players bat at 80 SR max & they are not Amla - average ~35, which means almost every time in a tight game they’ll leave at wrong time. What PAK have to do is factor Rizwan, Shadab, Amad, Amir & Hasan from 6-10 - that’s quite capable bottom half to score say 100, in last 15 overs, but it’s not like A Razzak, Afridi, Moin, Akram - they can’t score 100 in last 8-10 overs; so the acceleration has to start early - that’s why in my team Babar opens and is allowed to bat for 50 overs; Fakhar comes at 3 to keep momentum against spinners & Umar comes at 5 to start rotating from ball 1, hit boundary as well if anything loose. Ideally this lineup should target to reach 200 by 38th overs with 5 down - then they can post 285+ target, which should be enough almost every where.

I can put Shadab at 8 and bring a batting all rounder like moha, Malik or Yamin at 7 - overall productivity will be negative. It reduces bowling strength significantly; but that extra batsman will be wasted in any case - if it’s 233-5, after 44’3, no 7 won’t score 24 ball 59 (none of them are that good - Hasan is better at that point, can swing couple of sixes) if it’s 57-5, these moha, Malik, Yamin are not going to score a 100 to take it to 275+; their limit is a safe 65 to take it to 245/9 max.

ODI is a bowling game - if top order bats properly, one partnership is enough to bat out full overs; but a bowler can bowl only 10. A batting heavy PAK won’t ever be successful because that culture is not there, neither the batsman. PAK’s best strategy is to make bowling 50 overs solid & make the game operating between 250-275 level max. Put Shadab at 11 to lengthen batting lineup (means moha, Malik, Imad, Yamin comes early), on a 300 per condition, 9 times out of 10; PAK will fail to chase 290 - those Javed, Zaheer, Saeed, Inzi’s days are over. This is my fundamental argument with Arthur’s tactics in ODI and PAK is at 1-9 run against top 8 teams last year (it’ll go further after SAF series). Only time they did something (CT) - it’s the bowlers made it 225-250 level game and batting depth didn’t matter - even Amir, Sarfraz managed an asking of ~5 perfectly for 12 overs.

Think the game from the core strength of a team, not what is ideal - if Asif was genuine Butler, my script would have been different.
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I'd much rather take Imad at 7 than Shadab at 7 in ODIs.

Shadab isn't a good enough batsman to take that 7 spot... He's fine at number 8.
 
My Pakistani XI -

Fakhar
Imam
Bobby (c)(wk)
Harry
Hafeez
Malik
Shadab
Faheem
Hasan
Amir
Shaheen

I'm sure Babar is a keeper as he has the genes :kakmal :uakmal and the best player in the team should be the captain :vk:root:rp:ssmith:ba
 
Fakhar
Shan
Babar
Harris
Rizwan
Malik
Faheem
Shadab
Hasan
Shaheen
Mohd Irfan
---
Aamir
Talat
Imam
Imad
 
The Ideal team...

Ahmed Shehzad
Salman Butt (C)
Umar Akmal
Asad Shafiq
Asif Ali
Kamran Akmal (WK)
Biliwal Bhatti
Sohail Tanvir
Mohammed Talha
Ehsan Adil
Rahat Ali



HAHA... no seriously this:

Fakhar
Shan
Babar
Safaraz (Wk+C)
Malik / Sohail
Hafeez
Shadab
Faheem
Amir
Hasan
Afridi / Shinwari

Reserves:
Imad, Rizwan
 
Fakhar
Sharjeel
Babar
Haris
Umar Akmal
Hafeez
Sarfaraz (C WK )
Shadab
Amir
Hassan
Afridi

Selection is based on if Hafeez will bowl his 10 overs.
Selection of sharjeel is based on his clearance.
 
Australia xi

Warner
Finch
Smith
Marsh
Handscomb
Stoinis
Maxwell
Cummins
Starc
Hazelwood
Stanlake


New Zealand xi

Guptil
Munro
Williamson
Taylor
Neesham
Latham
Anderson
Southee
Santner
Milne/Ferguson
Boult

Bangladesh xi

Tamim
Anamul Haque
Sarkar
Mushfiqur
Mahmudullah
Das
Shakib
Mehidy
Murtaza
Mustifizur
Rubel

England xi

Hales
Roy
Root
Bairstow
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Moeen
Woakes
Sam Curran
Wood
 
1.Azhar Ali
2.Ahmed Shehzad
3.Mohammad Hafeez
4.Sarfraz Ahmed
5.Asad Shafiq
6.Asif Ali
7.Anwar Ali
8.Bilawal Bhatti
9.Sohail Tanvir
10.Ehsan Adil
11.Rahat Ali
 
PAK: Fakhar, Shan, Hafeez, Babar, Rizwan, Malik, Shadab, Faheem/Imad, Amir, Hasan, Shaheen
IND: Dhawan, Sharma, Kohli, Dhoni, Pant, Pandya, Kuldeep, Chahal, Bhuvi, Shami, Bumrah
 
Fakhar Zaman
Shan Masood
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Sarfraz Ahmed+*
Mohammad Hafeez
Shadab Khan
Faheem Ashraf
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Shaheen Shah Afridi

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Mohammad Rizwan+
Shoaib Malik
Hussain Talat
Saud Shakeel
Usman Shinwari
Rumman Raees
 
In a perfect world

1.Sharjeel Khan
2.Fakhar Zaman
3.Shan Masood
4.Babar Azam
5.Haris Sohail
6.Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
7.Hussain Talat
8.Imad Wasim
9.Faheem Ashraf
10.Mohammad Amir
11.Shaheen Afridi
 
hussain.r97 said:
Fakhar Zaman
Shan Masood
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Sarfraz Ahmed+*
Mohammad Hafeez
Shadab Khan
Faheem Ashraf
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Shaheen Shah Afridi

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Mohammad Rizwan+
Shoaib Malik
Hussain Talat
Saud Shakeel
Usman Shinwari
Rumman Raees
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shadab at 7 is weak
 
New Zealand

Martin Guptill
Colin Munro
Kane Williamson*
Ross Taylor
Henry Nicholls
BJ Watling+
Jimmy Neesham
Mitchell Santner/Ish Sodhi
Matt Henry/Lockie Ferguson/Adam Milne
Tim Southee
Trent Boult
 
If India goes with your XI i will be very confident of getting to semi final. But we have Rayudu, KKD, Dhoni. So it is going to continue to be a pipe dream.
 
Shandarchowka said:
My Pakistani XI -

Fakhar
Imam
Bobby (c)(wk)
Harry
Hafeez
Malik
Shadab
Faheem
Hasan
Amir
Shaheen

I'm sure Babar is a keeper as he has the genes :kakmal :uakmal and the best player in the team should be the captain :vk:root:rp:ssmith:ba
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Having those genes is precisely why he shouldn't keep.
 
No matter what amalgamation of players one uses, we will likely be out in the round stage or lucky a first round KO.

The CT was a flash in the pan.
 
Ilan Bluestone said:
No matter what amalgamation of players one uses, we will likely be out in the round stage or lucky a first round KO.

The CT was a flash in the pan.
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it's a group of 10, top 4 progress to semi

so yes we will probably be the 6th/7th team

India
England
New Zealand
Australia
South Africa
Bangladesh
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
West Indies
Afghanistan
 
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Mohammad Hafeez
Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Umar Akmal(wk)
Shoaib Malik(c)
Umar Amin
Hammad Azam
Shadab Khan
Hassan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Junaid Khan
 
fluke said:
I will post what I wish to see a Pakistani eleven for the world cup


Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Shoaib Malik
Umar Akmal
Mohammad Hafeez
Sarfraz Ahmed (C & WK) unfortunately
Shadab Khan
Faheem Ashraf
Mohammad Amir
Hassan Ali / Shaheen Shah Afridi

Reserves:

Junaid Khan
Asif Ali
Saad Ali
Imad Wasim
SSA / Hassan Ali

I think this team has everything to reach atleast till semis in my opinion rest up to inzi :sarf2 the legendary :)
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Complete agree with this team but it will never happen!!!!! pakisstani captain and selectors are too stupid
 
1.Rohit Sharma
2.Shikhar Dhawan
3.Virat Kohli (c)
4.MS Dhoni
5.Manish Pandey
6.Kedar Jadav
7.Hardik Pandya
8.Ravindra Jadeja
9.Jasprit Bumrah
10.Yuzvendra Chalal
11.Mohammad Shami
 
1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Shan masood
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Hafeez
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Khushdil Shah
7. Sarfraz Ahmed (c) (wk)
8. Shadab Khan
9. Mohammad Aamir
10. Sadaf Hussain
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi



Reserves:-
12. Hasan Ali
13 Fahim Ashraf
14. Hussain Talat
15. Abid Ali
 
Dream team for the World Cup in England & in the matches before that

Hi,

I think we should brainstorm which team will be good for upcoming world cup. My team is as follows:

Imam Ul Haq
Fakhar
Shan Masood
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Shoaib Malik / Hafeez
Sarfraz Ahmed
Shadab Khan
Faheem Ashraf or Muhammad Amir
Hassan Ali
Junaid Khan

Justification for above picks:

It will provide deep batting order.
Malik or Hafeez should be able to bowl as 5th bowler.
Junaid has better control with new ball and doesn't complain much compared to Amir.
 
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