Yuvraj Singh - A destructive player in limited overs Cricket

[WasimWaqarInzy]

Yuvraj is massively overrated

Every time I see him play, I think, the guys gonna get out. He never seems to score any runs, hes a poor test match player (3 hundreds in 33 games with an average of 35) and hes not exactly jawdropping in ODIs either (37 average, 88 strike rate). In T20s, especially in this IPL and in the World Cup, he was very poor, he cant play proper spin bowling, and he doesnt have a variety of shots, or even timing really, hes just a beastly, strong player. Someone like Saurabh Tiwary is exactly the same, or Dwayne Smith.

All the indians hail him as some kind of Messiah, and when he is on form, he can be devastating, but it isnt too difficult to get him out, and Id love to see him against Ajmal or Afridi, theyd destroy him...

 

[Mian Hassan]

He is a Malik kind of player



Everytime the time come's to drop them they score a century of fifty

 

[Sledger]

He's a good ODI player but in the other two formats his form has always been up and down. He's one of India's most naturally gifted batsmen imo but his temperment is pretty shaky.

 

[Sufi Malang]

I agree. His weakness is not just against spin but i have seen him struggle against quality fast bowling esp the short ball stuff. He is decent ODI and T20 player but ain't good enough to be part of a test team!

 

[IAJ]

Overrated or not, he is one of the cleanest hitter of the cricket ball going around.

He struggles a bit with his attitude and is getting fat day by day.

 

[Down2Earth]

he's the most overrated player on the planet right now for sure. followed closely by kp

 

[Romali_rotti]

He is a lots case.....Its over for himmm..

 

[Zaz]

Struggles against quality fast bowling on decks that do a little

Plays away from his body and relies a lot on power, on his day destructive

Good t20 or odi player but never gonna make test player

Think he enjoys social life bit 2 much and yes is turning into a fatty

 

[cricketindiafan]

Over rated ? Can't quite understand. No one says he is a "great". f anyone does so, then its wrong.

He is a very good ODI batsman, one of the best finishers in the world cricket for the last few years, perhaps among the top 5 cleanest and biggest hitters of the cricket ball in the last decade. Last 5-6 years have been very good him in ODIs, has struggled in test cricket, primarily due to a very lazy attitude.

 

[IAJ]

He is a lots case.....Its over for himmm..

Are you allright? or are you just being ironical?

 

[Amir]

37 is a bad ODI average? The man is a good one-day bat. Can build a innings or just hit out. And is a decent finisher who can play under pressure. Also a good T20 player to have, always dangerous but just out of form right now.

Test matches never have been his cup of tea.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Struggles against quality fast bowling on decks that do a little

Plays away from his body and relies a lot on power, on his day destructive

Good t20 or odi player but never gonna make test player

Think he enjoys social life bit 2 much and yes is turning into a fatty

Most batmen in word cricket have the same problem. Those who dont get coundted in the category of being "greats" and Yuvi certainly isn't a great batsman, just a very good batsman.

But despite all his technical problems, loves playing against Pakistan both in ODIs and tests.

 

[Rizie]

Just because he is currently out form doesnt mean he's overrated

He could walk in any team as midle order player.

 

[its.raja]

Yes like Afridi .


I should expect a bunch of attackers now

 

[Zaz]

Most batmen in word cricket have the same problem. Those who dont get coundted in the category of being "greats" and Yuvi certainly isn't a great batsman, just a very good batsman.

But despite all his technical problems, loves playing against Pakistan both in ODIs and tests.

an avge of 30 odd in tests isnt a very good test avge, if ur talking about odis yes like i said a very good odi player and his bowling certainly adds to that

 

[SID_ZONE]

i hear you rate afridi as legend in pakistan and all over the world he is rated as an average player.going by your standards yuvi should be a even greater legend.yuvi is one of the best t20 and odi batsman in the world and a average test batsman.he was indias best t20 player in last two t20 world cups.and please dont compare that thin sheet malik to yuvi,ma;lik scores only against india,that too not many times.i bet afridi will be smashedfor many by yuvi ,if india plays pak in coming world cup.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Yes like Afridi .


I should expect a bunch of attackers now

he's got a better record than Afridi . . 35.95; 37.09; 37.00 in respective formats whilst Afridi 37.40; 23.17; 20.65 . . though the latter has the far superior bowling record by virtue of being treated as a bowling all-rounder and in all reality not all that great either.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Are you allright? or are you just being ironical?

Nah being serious he is a lost case time to move on....

 

[Wazeeri]

He could walk into all T20 and ODI teams in the world as far as I am concerned.
The best hitter of the ball in our times along with Gayle.

 

[shaz619]

his doesnt seem to be in good shape as of late either too much belly fat

 

[Hari Sombar]

he is not overrated at all, he is just very out of form. In the top 3 best hitters in the game and able to walk into ANY side.

@ Romali - have you lost your nut dude ? he is one of the most talented batsmen this decade ...

 

[Uzi]

Poor test batsman.

Very good player in the shorter forms of the game.

 

[StraightHit]

Temperament is his biggest weakness. The opposition can exploit that real easy.

Furthermore, he is no test match material.

 

[PerfectionPersonified]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Inswinger]

He has the talent that's has become synonymous with good Indian batsmen but he lacks the temperament. he's one of those players that has a habit of doing something stupid to give away his wicket. His stats will never live up to his talent.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

But still who can hit six sixes that too of a fast bowler like Stuar Broad who is considered England's finest by the English commies

 

[Sakss]

you bowl him a good length delivery outside off ,,,hes edging one to the keeper or slips....
hes the kind of batsman who can easlily get trapped if a bowlers uses his mind..otherwise quite a gifted batsman tbh

 

[BD-fan]

Yusuf Pathan could do more damage had he got the chances UV got. (Any format - both with bat and ball)

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Yusuf Pathan could do more damage had he got the chances UV got. (Any format - both with bat and ball)

I've noticed quite a few players being discarded like that, with Kaif and Jaffer coming to mind, and Munaf wasn't as bad as is made out - not much worse than the other tripe. That said, Pathan's relatively fortunate . .

 

[pak-admirer]

yuvraj is still a good odi and t20 batsman, i'll would have him in the Pak team over the likes of faisal, farhat, butt, misbah, malik, manzoor, latif any day

he still should be in the t20 team, their best batsman in the two wcs

yuvraj is very gifted and talented, his six 6s was a sight to behold such power and timing and clean striking kinda like gayle - both these two are among the best and i might add way better hitters than afridi

and also he reminds of nazir, not so much the style (stance, backlift .etc) but the power and timing in their strokes and both are very talented but haven't reach their full potential well yuvraj is a odi and t20 player, nazir can't even make the t20 team

 

[kamranO]

yuvraj is still a good odi and t20 batsman, i'll would have him in the Pak team over the likes of faisal, farhat, butt, misbah, malik, manzoor, latif any day

he still should be in the t20 team, their best batsman in the two wcs

yuvraj is very gifted and talented, his six 6s was a sight to behold such power and timing and clean striking kinda like gayle - both these two are among the best and i might add way better hitters than afridi

and also he reminds of nazir, not so much the style (stance, backlift .etc) but the power and timing in their strokes and both are very talented but haven't reach their full potential well yuvraj is a odi and t20 player, nazir can't even make the t20 team

Quite Agreed But he is not better then Dhoni who make debut in 2005 or 2006 has average near 50 in Odi ... and yuvi made it in 1999 or 2000

 

[cricketindiafan]

I've noticed quite a few players being discarded like that, with Kaif and Jaffer coming to mind, and Munaf wasn't as bad as is made out - not much worse than the other tripe. That said, Pathan's relatively fortunate . .

Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Kaif made his debut well before Yuvraj, played a test match well before Yuvraj, was a permanent fixture in the ODI team for close to 6-7 years, was always the reserve player in the test team and whenever any of the big four were missing, was the one who got to play a test match. A test average of 32 and a ODI average of 32 after playing 125 games...Couldn't quite take his game to the next leel in either format. With Yuvi , at least he started becoming very consistent in ODIs post 2003 WC.

As for Jaffer, well he too got his chance in tests much before Yuvraj. COuldn't be consistent. Post 2007 WC< it did look like he has finally cemented his place, but the Australia tour in 2008 and the SA test series after that exposed him against pace bowling. And then Sehwag and Gambhir happened.

Munaf, well another one in the list of a wondeful talent gone astray. From very modest background, perhaps he was satisfied with his results way too early. His fielding and casual attitude to the game has made hin unpopular with the selection panel, yet he still has a future ahead of him if he does well in domestic cricket.

 

[Maha_Apa]

agree

 

[theMasters]

If you saw him hit six sixes off of Broad, you wouldn't call him overrated.
He is out of form right now though.

 

[cricket_fever]

Yes like Afridi .


I should expect a bunch of attackers now

difference is that afridi brings about way more excitement to the game raja sahib!

 

[cricket_fever]

If you saw him hit six sixes off of Broad, you wouldn't call him overrated.
He is out of form right now though.

broad was small and inexperienced then

 

[DadaFan]

Truthfully I agree with Romali, and the OP to some extent. I think he is over-rated. Having said that I still want to give him a few more chances in the ODI and T20 teams as he can win a match on his own.

However, for the test team I would like to see him replaced, I can't recall any test innings of worth (winning a test match or saving one), like the other batsman of the team have done.

 

[theMasters]

broad was small and inexperienced then

Well I kinda disagree. He was young but bowled a decent over except for one full toss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorFRXp6EWs

Cheers

 

[cricket_fever]

Well I kinda disagree. He was young but bowled a decent over except for one full toss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorFRXp6EWs

Cheers

if u say so

 

[pak-admirer]

Truthfully I agree with Romali, and the OP to some extent. I think he is over-rated. Having said that I still want to give him a few more chances in the ODI and T20 teams as he can win a match on his own.

However, for the test team I would like to see him replaced, I can't recall any test innings of worth (winning a test match or saving one), like the other batsman of the team have done.

didn't he contribute to the 1st test match in the 2-match test series against Eng at home in Dec 2008, along with Sehwag and Tendulkar centuries to chase down the victory

anyways despite that he hasn't been making big scores in test, so he's place is questioned

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Every time I see him play, I think, the guys gonna get out. He never seems to score any runs, hes a poor test match player (3 hundreds in 33 games with an average of 35) and hes not exactly jawdropping in ODIs either (37 average, 88 strike rate). In T20s, especially in this IPL and in the World Cup, he was very poor, he cant play proper spin bowling, and he doesnt have a variety of shots, or even timing really, hes just a beastly, strong player. Someone like Saurabh Tiwary is exactly the same, or Dwayne Smith.

All the indians hail him as some kind of Messiah, and when he is on form, he can be devastating, but it isnt too difficult to get him out, and Id love to see him against Ajmal or Afridi, theyd destroy him...

He is not overrated at all. Infact he is wonderfull naturally gifted batsman.

BUT he takes everything for granted and that biggest weakness of many a punjabi....... Alcohol!!! To compound that everyone mollycoddles him!

 

[lakha84]

Just because he is currently out form doesnt mean he's overrated

He could walk in any team as midle order player.

WHICH TEAM bangla , zim,may be WI

 

[Radiance Of Australis]

I dont think its fair to compare Afridi with him.

Afridi is considered as a bowling allrounder who can hit the ball hard and has an amazing strike rate,really.

Yuvraj on the other hand is nothing spectacular at bowling and is pretty inconsistent with the bat these days.In form,he is really dangerous,though.A batting allrounder ofcourse.
Terrible Test cricketer and more of a T20 specialist,the closest you can say.

If you compare both in T20s,I'd say Afridi wins by an easy margin any day. You cant even start comparing them.

But,...but but...he is definitely not over rated.Atleast not in T20s and ODIs.

 

[Hari Sombar]

edit

 

[Radiance Of Australis]

in bowling or batting ?

Both

 

[dukki_badshah]

Yuvraj is a good player just out of form..i think hes always been like that in n out n in form player..he will be back to his very best soon..

 

[cricket_fever]

Both

agree

 

[its.raja]

difference is that afridi brings about way more excitement to the game raja sahib!

Ouch.

 

[CrIcKet_is_LiFe]

I feel like nobody really respected him before he went for six Sixes in a over!!! Then IPL started n everyone was like.... Yuvraj is the key player..... But he is decent in the Lower Order imo in ODIz! T20, its more his Luck and Test not his format.......

 

[Cracket]

The man needs to get on a treadmill from now until the plane leaves for Carribean. No point in playing anymore IPL matches, and we don't want a fatty in our team.

 

[shaz619]

The man needs to get on a treadmill from now until the plane leaves for Carribean. No point in playing anymore IPL matches, and we don't want a fatty in our team.

truu he cud be a much better if he cuts out the samosas

 

[Cheguvera]

Yuvraj Singh is akin to Donavan McNabb of NFL, a favorable ethnic minority that is needed to be kept in the team to keep his co-ethnists interested in cricket...

If Yuvi was a pesky little muslim from let's say Dehli, he'd be miles away from the Indian national side...

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Yuvraj Singh is akin to Donavan McNabb of NFL, a favorable ethnic minority that is needed to be kept in the team to keep his co-ethnists interested in cricket...

If Yuvi was a pesky little muslim from let's say Dehli, he'd be miles away from the Indian national side...

and ours has been a detriment hopefully he's interested in the bookies whilst in southern england . .

I've noticed quite a few players being discarded like that, with Kaif and Jaffer coming to mind, and Munaf wasn't as bad as is made out - not much worse than the other tripe. That said, Pathan's relatively fortunate . .

talking of which, dhoni is 'singh' as a title only and not related to a religion , supposedly.

 

[jr]

fat yuvraj singh is not massively overrated.

he is a very good player in the shorter formats and one of the biggest hitters in the game. he has however been out of form in the ipl.

as for tests, he clearly is pretty average but then no one has ever rated him at test match level anyway

 

[Random Aussie]

The YUVI ) )

 

[Romali_rotti]

he is not overrated at all, he is just very out of form. In the top 3 best hitters in the game and able to walk into ANY side.

@ Romali - have you lost your nut dude ? he is one of the most talented batsmen this decade ...

I didnt say he wasnt talented, talent can only take you so far as his career timeline so far would show...

 

[zimran72]

Yuvraj Singh is akin to Donavan McNabb of NFL, a favorable ethnic minority that is needed to be kept in the team to keep his co-ethnists interested in cricket...

If Yuvi was a pesky little muslim from let's say Dehli, he'd be miles away from the Indian national side...

Yawn. Here come the conspirators.

 

[ads101]

If the man walked into our ODI team, he'd be the best player of the lot. Pakistan really lack any top ODI batsman at the moment, so it's a bit strange that you can call him overrated by use of comparison of Pakistani cricketers. I don't think his bowling is incredible, but on batting alone he's still better than the other pakistani batsmen.

He's not a test player, but great at ODIs and pretty good at T20s.

 

[wanted_desi]

I am sure he will give his best when he play for India in T20

 

[sazz]

He is clearly a matchwinnerf for India in ODIs and T20s. In his day he can change the course of the match(with his batting), one of the cleanest striker of the cricket ball.

 

[dani2k]

MSD knows how to extract performances from his trump card in ODIs and T20s. Yuvi has a big ego and MSD is smart enough to keep him motivated, giving him the right amount of space and challenges within his batting line up to make him perform at him optimum level.

Yuvi is way off the mark this IPL for non cricketing reasons. He is also recuperating from an injury. So I think he is just taking easy during his rehab. Come the World T20 he should be fine and firing.

And comparing him to Pakistani cricketers while calling him overrated? )

 

[Easa]

And comparing him to Pakistani cricketers while calling him overrated? )

I beg to differ, neighbor.

He has a similar record to Shoaib Malik and we all know how highly he's thought of on this board.

In fact, when you add in Malik's bowling and fielding, Malik probably trumps Yuvraj as a limited overs player. And he isn't even a lock in our ODI team anymore.

Yuvraj, on his day, is a stunning player of medium pace and spin bowling. Absolutely stunning. Apart from that, he's a good player to have in an ODI side, but has yet to play that defining knock. And I doubt he ever will. Sad waste of talent .

 

[Poison]

MSD knows how to extract performances from his trump card in ODIs and T20s. Yuvi has a big ego and MSD is smart enough to keep him motivated, giving him the right amount of space and challenges within his batting line up to make him perform at him optimum level.

Yuvi is way off the mark this IPL for non cricketing reasons. He is also recuperating from an injury. So I think he is just taking easy during his rehab. Come the World T20 he should be fine and firing.

And comparing him to Pakistani cricketers while calling him overrated? )

He looks like a beached whale. He is incapable of being 'fit' or 'firing'

 

[dani2k]

I beg to differ, neighbor.

He has a similar record to Shoaib Malik and we all know how highly he's thought of on this board.

In fact, when you add in Malik's bowling and fielding, Malik probably trumps Yuvraj as a limited overs player. And he isn't even a lock in our ODI team anymore.

Yuvraj, on his day, is a stunning player of medium pace and spin bowling. Absolutely stunning. Apart from that, he's a good player to have in an ODI side, but has yet to play that defining knock. And I doubt he ever will. Sad waste of talent .

Fair enough..each man for his own opinion. Whether he still has it or not we will get to know very soon. As soon as two weeks from now. Don't be surprised if he fires big.

My take is that he has a point to prove and will hit back at his opponents big time. He is at his dangerous best when someone plays with his ego. Remember the back ground to the six sixes when Flintoff had a verbal spat with him? The Kings XI Punjab management has done the same to him now..unfortunately it would be someone else to bear the brunt of it..

 

[dani2k]

He looks like a beached whale. He is incapable of being 'fit' or 'firing'

We will see it come the WorldT20. I do agree that he hasn't fulfilled his talent and his temperament is not up to the mark. But I will not write him off especially when he has been criticized so badly in the media and by his own franchise. Someone is gonna pay bad and pay big soon. Pray that it will not be your team.

MSD will surely channelize his pent up energy the right way. He is a master at that..

 

[mr einstein]

Overrated is the wrong term. Crowd favourite and FTB would be a fairer assesment, as I've never heard anyone (including indians) rating him as any more than a destructive ODI and 2020 batsman.

 

[WasimWaqarInzy]

We will see it come the WorldT20. I do agree that he hasn't fulfilled his talent and his temperament is not up to the mark. But I will not write him off especially when he has been criticized so badly in the media and by his own franchise. Someone is gonna pay bad and pay big soon. Pray that it will not be your team.

MSD will surely channelize his pent up energy the right way. He is a master at that..

You sound like Yuvraj is some monster and that were supposed to be scared of him, whats wrong with you hahaha. He is overrated by indians quite clearly, you think hes some kind of supernatural force who devastates all in his path when hes angry; 'oooh look its big Yuvraj hes going to come kill you'.

I am the OP, and this is why I think hes overrated by Indians, and maybe the cricketing community as a whole, there is nothing that special about him. Yes, he is pretty good against medium pace bowling. Who isn't (apart from Robin Uthappa LMAO)? His figures are distinctly average, Shoaib Malik has similar figures even, and his form in the last year has been worse than average. Id love to see Afridi vs Yuvraj, it would honestly make my day. Afridi would get him out first ball, maybe second ball, just like he got De Villiers, Gibbs, Jayasuria, Dilshan in other hyped up battles.

 

[dani2k]

I am the OP, and this is why I think hes overrated by Indians, and maybe the cricketing community as a whole, there is nothing that special about him. Yes, he is pretty good against medium pace bowling. Who isn't (apart from Robin Uthappa LMAO)? His figures are distinctly average, Shoaib Malik has similar figures even, and his form in the last year has been worse than average. Id love to see Afridi vs Yuvraj, it would honestly make my day. Afridi would get him out first ball, maybe second ball, just like he got De Villiers, Gibbs, Jayasuria, Dilshan in other hyped up battles.

I think these would sound just fine for him too isnt it?

Yuvi is no monster and you need not fear him. Just respect his cricketing skills in the shorter format and pray that you are not facing him on his good day

And Afridi is no Warne that he will get good players first ball or second ball everytime he bowls. He had a good year last time, but we are now in 2010 mate..

 

[WasimWaqarInzy]

I think these would sound just fine for him too isnt it?

Yuvi is no monster and you need not fear him. Just respect his cricketing skills in the shorter format and pray that you are not facing him on his good day

And Afridi is no Warne that he will get good players first ball or second ball everytime he bowls. He had a good year last time, but we are now in 2010 mate..

Afridi is undoubtedly the best player in T20 cricket, a combination of occasional batting fireworks ~(1 good knock in every 3-4 games), incredibly aggressive yet very economical bowling (SR 16.8, econ 5.8, average 16.32, 37 wickets in 27 games), top notch fielding (have a look at that catch in the world cup again, I think it was b. Gul, Scott Styris), and of course, a huge big game mentality, being player of the tournament in the first WC, and the man of the match in both the semi and final in the last one.

Afridi would be on a par with the worlds best on his bowling alone, his figures are only matched by Ajmal, and to an extent Mendis, and only Gul surpasses him. Going for less than a run a ball while still getting 1.5 wickets a match is just incredible.

The only players in the world who can claim to be as devastating as Afridi in T20s are Gul and to an extent Kallis.

 

[jusarrived]

I've noticed quite a few players being discarded like that, with Kaif and Jaffer coming to mind, and Munaf wasn't as bad as is made out - not much worse than the other tripe. That said, Pathan's relatively fortunate . .

nice try

 

[Hari Sombar]

in bowling or batting ?

Both

agree

Then you guys are brainwashed like everyone else, even Harbhajan is matching Afridi in his batting right now, in terms of bowling, yes, because Yuvraj is not a bowler.

But Afridi is a mindless slogger who gets past 20 every 20 innings, even when in form, and you know it

 

[Hari Sombar]

Afridi is undoubtedly the best player in T20 cricket, a combination of occasional batting fireworks ~(1 good knock in every 3-4 games), incredibly aggressive yet very economical bowling (SR 16.8, econ 5.8, average 16.32, 37 wickets in 27 games), top notch fielding (have a look at that catch in the world cup again, I think it was b. Gul, Scott Styris), and of course, a huge big game mentality, being player of the tournament in the first WC, and the man of the match in both the semi and final in the last one.

Afridi would be on a par with the worlds best on his bowling alone, his figures are only matched by Ajmal, and to an extent Mendis, and only Gul surpasses him. Going for less than a run a ball while still getting 1.5 wickets a match is just incredible.

The only players in the world who can claim to be as devastating as Afridi in T20s are Gul and to an extent Kallis.

) ) ) ) )

You being serious ?

His bowling is good, yes

But he is someway off the best in T20

 

[abdulkhan786]

Name one bowler in the world who can beat Afridis stats......hahahah can't so Afridi is the best bowler in the world combine with fastetst century ever scored in history.....You have the blueprint for greatest cricketer ever but Afridi is reality......nearest Indians have is Yuvi don't make me joke!!!!!!

 

[Hari Sombar]

Name one bowler in the world who can beat Afridis stats......hahahah can't so Afridi is the best bowler in the world combine with fastetst century ever scored in history.....You have the blueprint for greatest cricketer ever but Afridi is reality......nearest Indians have is Yuvi don't make me joke!!!!!!

I didnt neccessarily mean a bowler

 

[Poison]

Name one player better than Afridi at the T20 format.

Averages 16 with the ball, SR of 16
Averages 20 with the bat, SR of 145
...

Yup, thought so.

 

[Zaz]

I think guys need to stop the indian bashing and get a grip on reality (especially the afridi lovers)

Fair enough yuvraj aint in best form but his odi numbers are very good compared to afridis, sure he aint set world alight in test formats but has afridi?

In odis and t20s he does an excellent job whilst afridi only has in t20s

People who are hailing afridi need to look at his odi figures and take off the glasses

 

[Hari Sombar]

Name one player better than Afridi at the T20 format.

Averages 16 with the ball, SR of 16
Averages 20 with the bat, SR of 145
...

Yup, thought so.

His bowling is good as I said, his batting SR means nothing if he gets out after 5 balls

 

[theMasters]

Name one player better than Afridi at the T20 format.

Averages 16 with the ball, SR of 16
Averages 20 with the bat, SR of 145
...

Yup, thought so.

shane watson
keiron pollard
jacques kallis

I love afridi but his batting isn't there.

 

[Hari Sombar]

shane watson
keiron pollard
jacques kallis

I love afridi but his batting isn't there.

Pollard, not yet, but me may well could be

The other two are superior to him

 

[Poison]

shane watson
keiron pollard
jacques kallis

I love afridi but his batting isn't there.

Please don't count IPL games. Afridi's stats are superior to both of those players (Watson, Kallis) in the shortest form of the game. Kallis' bowling in T20 doesn't even compare.