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“If Pakistan doesn't take part in the World Cup in India next year, who will watch it?": Ramiz Raja

Unnecessary from ramiz, the stand should have been if India doesn't tour to Pakistan then we will not participate in any future Asia cups. World cup is an ICC event it'll be big lose if Pakistan doesn't play.
 
[MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]

As for PCB, we all criticize them and call them exactly what they are.
 
Sometimes you just have to take the L's in life. Not all battles are meant to be won. Yes the BCCI finessed PCB real bad by not standing by their word, but this retaliation in no way does any damage whatsoever except to Pakistan cricket fans and the Pakistan cricket players themselves who I'm sure after reaching so close in the last two world tournaments they've played, wouldn't want to waste a chance at redemption.
Surely there's a different way to protest the decision than to throw your team under the bus
 
What do you mean 'Who would watch it'? Ummm, the rest of the cricketing world would.
 
TheNightWatchman said:
Sometimes you just have to take the L's in life. Not all battles are meant to be won. Yes the BCCI finessed PCB real bad by not standing by their word, but this retaliation in no way does any damage whatsoever except to Pakistan cricket fans and the Pakistan cricket players themselves who I'm sure after reaching so close in the last two world tournaments they've played, wouldn't want to waste a chance at redemption.
Surely there's a different way to protest the decision than to throw your team under the bus
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I mean Ramiz hasn't done it yet. All he has done is make it clear that it is an option which is on the table.

In reality i doubt we'll be boycotting a World Cup. But from this position Pakistan should get an outcome which is more favourable to them than if they just meekly accepted whatever decision India decided to make regarding the Asia Cup.
 
Ramiz is such a baby. Most childish sports administrator I've ever known and runs Pakistan cricket like he's a mobster. The sooner they get rid of them, the better.
 
hitthestump said:
I mean Ramiz hasn't done it yet. All he has done is make it clear that it is an option which is on the table.

In reality i doubt we'll be boycotting a World Cup. But from this position Pakistan should get an outcome which is more favourable to them than if they just meekly accepted whatever decision India decided to make regarding the Asia Cup.
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Agreed. This is the only way to expose BCCI
 
Caved12 said:
Read my posts above and I am sure you will understand what I am talking about.
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No please tell.

Because i read that you think BCCI is a villager which became reach overnight. BCCI being rich and working for 3 decades to become rich is not some secret that will be exposed.

Neither is the fact that Indian government has the final say in whether Indian team goes to Pakistan.

What is PCB exposing?
 
😂 we had 82000 watching India v Zimbabwe at the MCG, which was effectively a dead rubber and Ramiz thinks if Pak don't come for. WC no one will watch 😂😂

In fact many people in India will be happy, and he is playing into the hands of people who want to isolate Pakistan cricket.

It will also open up an extra spot in the Qualifiers.
 
Ramiz obsession with the word Billion Dollars industry is laughable. Money has nothing to do with your performance. PAK also Lost to Zimbabwe Twice in Last 2 years when they failed to chase 120 and 131.😏
 
sam_ahm said:
�� we had 82000 watching India v Zimbabwe at the MCG, which was effectively a dead rubber and Ramiz thinks if Pak don't come for. WC no one will watch ����

In fact many people in India will be happy, and he is playing into the hands of people who want to isolate Pakistan cricket.

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If Pakistan are going to be childish and boycott the World Cup, they'll be the real losers, all other cricketing nations and fans will get on & enjoy the tournament.
 
sam_ahm said:
😂 we had 82000 watching India v Zimbabwe at the MCG, which was effectively a dead rubber and Ramiz thinks if Pak don't come for. WC no one will watch 😂😂

In fact many people in India will be happy, and he is playing into the hands of people who want to isolate Pakistan cricket.

It will also open up an extra spot in the Qualifiers.
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The biggest stadium in the world will be having a full house. That's a guarantee.
 
Caved12 said:
BCCI is a bully and a third class cricket board. Not a single person in India has guts to go to their goverment and say the right thing. Just listen to their posters here, they are always defending BCCI and their actions. They don't really love cricket and are hell-bent on killing this game. I am with Ramiz on this one. If they can't play the Asia cup in Pakistan, then why should we go there for the next Odi world cup. Enough with this nonsense
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More like even fans wouldn't want Indian players playing in Pakistan either. Has nothing to do with BCCI being a bully, it is the general public sentiment that is represented by Indian government's stance.
 
Just for context Pakistan played a tri series in Nzl before the WT20 that no one remembers.

The foolish Nidihaas cup videos are one of the most viewed cricket videos on YouTube.

Pakistan is a very talented and exciting cricket team and will definitely add to the tournament, no one has or should have a second opinion on that.

However thinking that no one is going to watch World Cup without Pakistan is heights of delusion.

Ramiz for some short term hype is probably hurting his prospects in the long run. Anyway that’s his personal problem.
 
Local.Dada said:
Just for context Pakistan played a tri series in Nzl before the WT20 that no one remembers.

The foolish Nidihaas cup videos are one of the most viewed cricket videos on YouTube.

Pakistan is a very talented and exciting cricket team and will definitely add to the tournament, no one has or should have a second opinion on that.

However thinking that no one is going to watch World Cup without Pakistan is heights of delusion.

Ramiz for some short term hype is probably hurting his prospects in the long run. Anyway that’s his personal problem.
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Pakistan's T20 side is good and would probably be the 3rd best side after England and India, but their ODI side is far from the top sides so you shouldn't conflate the two. ODI cricket requires very different skill sets than T20 these days & mental strength to perform for longer.
 
Local.Dada said:
Just for context Pakistan played a tri series in Nzl before the WT20 that no one remembers.

The foolish Nidihaas cup videos are one of the most viewed cricket videos on YouTube.

Pakistan is a very talented and exciting cricket team and will definitely add to the tournament, no one has or should have a second opinion on that.

However thinking that no one is going to watch World Cup without Pakistan is heights of delusion.

Ramiz for some short term hype is probably hurting his prospects in the long run. Anyway that’s his personal problem.
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Yes, not having Pakistan in the WC will be disappointing as a cricket fan, esp when they play after such a long time in India it will be great, but by no means will it mean that it will impact the cricketing world in any way.
 
Snatch said:
Pakistan's T20 side is good and would probably be the 3rd best side after England and India, but their ODI side is far from the top sides so you shouldn't conflate the two. ODI cricket requires very different skill sets than T20 these days & mental strength to perform for longer.
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I mean what I said could apply to Srilanka, Bangla and Westindies as well. They have a passionate fan base, maybe not Bangladesh but other teams have some cricketers with flair and also those teams have a rich cricketing tradition. By that account it would definitely take away a bit from the flavor of the tournament if Pakistan doesn’t play.

Having said that just like IPL since edition 2, the world only moves by and becomes stronger if anything.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Can you show me the document that says they aren’t?
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Following a thorough tender process, ICC awarded Star Sports the global broadcast rights for all ICC Events 2015-2023. This included exclusive live and highlights rights across all platforms for ICC major events – the ICC Cricket World Cup and its qualifiers, the ICC Women’s World Cup, the ICC World Twenty20 and its qualifiers, the ICC Champions Trophy and the ICC Under-19 Cricket World Cup.

All rights sold together to STAR in 2015.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/partners/broadcasters/icc-broadcast-rights
 
100% with ramiz on this one if india don't want to visit pakistan then we shouldn't visit india too

Enough of this bending down and there should be a stop to this dirty politics bbci are playing bringing into cricket with the excuse of their government

We need to stand up to this bullying by bcci
 
India has been avoiding PAK tours since 2007.

For once I hope PAK shows spine and boycotts an event in India if ICC does not move it out. This should teach a lesson to BCCI/ ICC

Pak did come to India for 2011, 2016 WC's and have not got any favour back from India in terms of a tour. It is high time ....
 
emranabbas said:
100% with ramiz on this one if india don't want to visit pakistan then we shouldn't visit india too

Enough of this bending down and there should be a stop to this dirty politics bbci are playing bringing into cricket with the excuse of their government

We need to stand up to this bullying by bcci
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Big difference, the World Cup is not a bilateral series & I'm sure India would play in Pakistan if it was a World Cup. So if Pakistan want to sulk and boycott, that'll only hurt them.
 
Though we wants it but never going to happen ,2024 Election coming and they don't want give , Opposition a strong Conflagrant issue that may hurt them later, Pak should boycott this time ,i am with them.
 
Excellent point from Ramiz. Some here don't realise the message isn't for the fascists next door it's for the ICC. 50 over cricket is on a knife edge. Viewership without Pakistan will be effected. It will also send a big nessage to the restvof the cricket community..I'm sure those empty seats in Australia would have the ICC a bit worried..

Pakistan should definitely boycott.. we can concentrate on the t20 and champs trophy instead..
 
obviously RR is trying to put pressure on iccbcci

we have bent over everytime in the past, for once lets stick it to them, and yes boycotting odi wc will hurt them big time... if it was t20s then prob not... but in odis it will make the wc very toothless without one of the top teams which are already very few to begin with.

slap them back i say...
 
Hope Ramiz Raja walks the talk and actually boycott 2023 WC

Bcoz India will NOT go to Pakistan for 2023 Asia Cup under any circumstances

Now Ramiz will look stupid if Pakistan plays in 2023 WC after so much big talk. But again PCB can just sack him and get new Chief in place & play in the 2023 WC. Ramiz anyways was a Imran lackey. Don't think the present govt think much about sacking him if required
 
sam_ahm said:
😂 we had 82000 watching India v Zimbabwe at the MCG, which was effectively a dead rubber and Ramiz thinks if Pak don't come for. WC no one will watch 😂😂

In fact many people in India will be happy, and he is playing into the hands of people who want to isolate Pakistan cricket.

It will also open up an extra spot in the Qualifiers.
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Ind vs Zim match attendance more than final.
 
I personally don't agree with the reasoning of the Indian governments stance. I think their reasoning for not going to Pakistan seems to be incorrectly stated. But I can actually understand if the players refuse to go due to their safety. I don't care if Australia or England went to Pakistan to play. The risk for Indians is far greater on their life. If an assassination attempt were to occur the bad guys only need to be right once and some really big names in Indian cricket could be gone forever. Please understand I am not saying all of Pakistan is dangerous or any other negative insinuations about Pakistanis. I am staying that one mistake and all of them could pay with their lives. Do I trust Pakistan to protect them? No. Sorry but it's virtually impossible. I would state the same about India. Security apparatus in both countries is subpar. It is simply not worth taking this risk for any of these players. Just think about it. The bad guys would love to make a statement of killing of Kohli. It's as simple as that. Is it worth it for Kohli to risk his life over this. Not at all. So, while I completely disagree with the Indian governments stance on this, I don't think the players need to take this risk. I would fully understand if they said no thanks.
 
People seem to be talking about gate receipts - of course in a populous country like India, people will come but the TV audiences of a India v Zim game and India v Pakistan game are a totally different ball game
 
RexRex said:
You gotta love Rambo. Whether its as a pundit or PCB chairman .. he always spouts his guff like a drunken sailor. In this boycott case however, he has vastly overestimated the importance of Pakistan to the Indian cricket economy.
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Wrong. When it comes to a world cup, it's the world cricket economy that is at stake. Not many countries play or watch cricket. If the most mercurial and unpredictable side is removed from the equation, the entire picture loses color. PakvInd also attracts the kind of audience all other encounters combined cannot even think to achieve.
 
asfandyar said:
Wrong. When it comes to a world cup, it's the world cricket economy that is at stake. Not many countries play or watch cricket. If the most mercurial and unpredictable side is removed from the equation, the entire picture loses color. PakvInd also attracts the kind of audience all other encounters combined cannot even think to achieve.
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In 2009 Pakistan asked its players to pull out of IPL - bcoz they thought IPL wud collapse without Pakistani players. You know how it turned out

In 2022 they think World Cup will not survive without Pakistan !!
 
asfandyar said:
Wrong. When it comes to a world cup, it's the world cricket economy that is at stake. Not many countries play or watch cricket. If the most mercurial and unpredictable side is removed from the equation, the entire picture loses color. PakvInd also attracts the kind of audience all other encounters combined cannot even think to achieve.
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The most watched cricket match in India didn't even involve Pakistan.
 
Ramiz is forgetting a crucial point here ... the ODI WC streak vs Ind will extend for 4 more yrs if they refuse to play and this is probably the best opportunity for Pakistan considering that India has a lot of players past their prime.
 
It’s very simple. What Rameez said, had to be said. Pakistan have, at this point, spent more than a decade demonstrating to the world that Pakistan is absolutely safe to play in.

Jay Shah unilaterally decided that the Asia Cup wouldn’t happen in Pakistan. There were no talks with the PCB, just an edict handed out by Jay.

So, if India (represented by their Govt/by BCCI) can do this, what’s stopping them from doing the same in 2025, for the Champions Trophy scheduled for Pakistan? Does that Champions Trophy also get moved to the UAE? The BCCI can, in 2025, say that moving the Asia Cup in 2023 was no issue, so why should moving the Champions Trophy in 2025 be one?

Jay Shah set the precedent here.

If Pakistan go through with this, and don’t play in the 2023 WC, they will have a colossal loss of income. But sometimes you have to take a stand, even if the effects are dangerous. Otherwise, the bully will keep bullying and India’s tactics here have gotten very old.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
If Pakistan go through with this, and don’t play in the 2023 WC, they will have a colossal loss of income. But sometimes you have to take a stand, even if the effects are dangerous. Otherwise, the bully will keep bullying and India’s tactics here have gotten very old.
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And what makes you think doing this will stop the "bully" from "bullying"?
 
asfandyar said:
Instead of throwing your toys out of the pram, or getting your knickers in a twist, meet our cricket team in Pakistan. A convincing victory over Pakistan in their own backyard will shut all Pakistani fans up.
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Shut them up how? India has beaten Pakistan enough times already in ICC events. One more win won't shut anyone up.
 
MenInG said:
People seem to be talking about gate receipts - of course in a populous country like India, people will come but the TV audiences of a India v Zim game and India v Pakistan game are a totally different ball game
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There are others teams too besides Zimbabwe lol.

Either way, BCCI makes enough money that they don't need to depend on Pakistan for it.
 
asfandyar said:
India has killed 100x more people (including children) in Pakistan through proxy terrorism than vice versa. India also played "Aanay Do" series after Mumbai and got its **censored** handed to it. India violated LoC in Balakot and again got its **censored** handed to it.

Instead of throwing your toys out of the pram, or getting your knickers in a twist, meet our cricket team in Pakistan. A convincing victory over Pakistan in their own backyard will shut all Pakistani fans up.

An Asia cup with India will be the safest tournament in the history of Pakistan since Government of India wouldn't dare activate their terrorist proxies when their own national team is in Pakistan.
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Snakes in your backyard won't bite only neighbours: Hillary to Pak

slamabad: In a blunt message to Pakistan, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton today demanded greater cooperation from the country to "squeeze" the Haqqani network responsible for attacks in Afghanistan, saying Islamabad could not keep "snakes" in its backyard to strike its neighbours.
 
anand99 said:
I personally don't agree with the reasoning of the Indian governments stance. I think their reasoning for not going to Pakistan seems to be incorrectly stated. But I can actually understand if the players refuse to go due to their safety. I don't care if Australia or England went to Pakistan to play. The risk for Indians is far greater on their life. If an assassination attempt were to occur the bad guys only need to be right once and some really big names in Indian cricket could be gone forever. Please understand I am not saying all of Pakistan is dangerous or any other negative insinuations about Pakistanis. I am staying that one mistake and all of them could pay with their lives. Do I trust Pakistan to protect them? No. Sorry but it's virtually impossible. I would state the same about India. Security apparatus in both countries is subpar. It is simply not worth taking this risk for any of these players. Just think about it. The bad guys would love to make a statement of killing of Kohli. It's as simple as that. Is it worth it for Kohli to risk his life over this. Not at all. So, while I completely disagree with the Indian governments stance on this, I don't think the players need to take this risk. I would fully understand if they said no thanks.
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As a cricket fan, I appreciate you saying this. It’s much more sensible and fair than some of the other Indian posters who are are taunting Pak, which in this case is the bullied/aggrieved party. I was deprived of watching my own team for 10 years and I don’t want that anymore. If SENA can visit Pak, I fail to understand why India can’t.

I don’t agree with your overall conclusion though. Pak is one of the safest south Asian countries today.

Eng and Aus didn’t visit Pak after 2005 but India continued to visit Pakistan until 2008 Asia cup without any issues whatsoever. It’s even better now as evident by Eng/Aus making it out here and having a fantastic time, and there is no threat to the Indian team. And Indian government, BCCI, and support staff know that.

The same argument can me made that anti-Pakistan elements within India can attack or kill babar. You’re yourself admitting that security apparatus is subpar in both countries. So should Pak also not risk sending a team to India? Should Pak trust India to protect Pakistani players?

Absolutely Pak should send the team and trust that India will protect our players. Risks are everywhere, but the show must go on as it has for decades.

Ultimately, this hard-line BJP stance of isolating Pakistan is clearly not working anymore as evident by the strides Pak has made in last 5 years. It’s time BJP accepts the writing on the wall and let India team show up one day or another, as the world is not stupid, everyone knows what BJP’s goals are but the world is not aligned with it. More sensible voices like yours are needed to bring a sense of friendliness and love between the 2 countries rather than hate and division.
 
Who will watch it? INDIAAAA.
INDIA is to cricket what USA is to basketball.

Now that football wc is on you can see how limited a sport cricket is.

Basically cricket is big in 2 countries, Pakistan and India.

Rest of asian countries they can not win WC.

You saw how big cricket is in England and Australia. They both won t20 wc recently and their media/people hardly cared.

Imagine India or Pakistan winning t20 wc. There would be big celebration.

So if Pakistan does not participate it will be only 1 country who really cares about the trophy.
 
NishanKonar said:
In 2009 Pakistan asked its players to pull out of IPL - bcoz they thought IPL wud collapse without Pakistani players. You know how it turned out

In 2022 they think World Cup will not survive without Pakistan !!
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Are you seriously comparing ipl with world cup
If it wasn't for the money no player would be interested in ipl
 
India this India that. Why don't Indians just play IPL if international cricket is so irrelevant? The biggest match in international cricket is Pak V India. Who watches World Cup apart from Subcontinent teams? England were playing in a final and won it but no one gave a damn about it in England. This is a perfectly acceptable stance from Ramiz. We will see how attractive cricket World cup is without Pakistan. Anyway, Pakistan needs to badly invest in other sport. Cricket is a dying sport. It will only be relevant in India due to the size of their population.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
It’s very simple. What Rameez said, had to be said. Pakistan have, at this point, spent more than a decade demonstrating to the world that Pakistan is absolutely safe to play in.

Jay Shah unilaterally decided that the Asia Cup wouldn’t happen in Pakistan. There were no talks with the PCB, just an edict handed out by Jay.

So, if India (represented by their Govt/by BCCI) can do this, what’s stopping them from doing the same in 2025, for the Champions Trophy scheduled for Pakistan? Does that Champions Trophy also get moved to the UAE? The BCCI can, in 2025, say that moving the Asia Cup in 2023 was no issue, so why should moving the Champions Trophy in 2025 be one?

Jay Shah set the precedent here.

If Pakistan go through with this, and don’t play in the 2023 WC, they will have a colossal loss of income. But sometimes you have to take a stand, even if the effects are dangerous. Otherwise, the bully will keep bullying and India’s tactics here have gotten very old.
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Exactly. The ball is in India's court here to either follow through or undo what Jay Shah did.

Indian fans are having fun flexing their chests at how little Pakistan will be missed in a WC. And they may be right and Rambo is wrong, possibly.

But they are missing the main point. They have a choice between the morally correct option over the one which puts the cricketing world in a difficult position. Pakistan are only asking for India not to renege on their cricketing obligations which sets a precedence for future events.

Come on Indians. You can choose not to try and bully. But will you do it?
 
hitthestump said:
Exactly. The ball is in India's court here to either follow through or undo what Jay Shah did.

Indian fans are having fun flexing their chests at how little Pakistan will be missed in a WC. And they may be right and Rambo is wrong, possibly.

But they are missing the main point. They have a choice between the morally correct option over the one which puts the cricketing world in a difficult position. Pakistan are only asking for India not to renege on their cricketing obligations which sets a precedence for future events.

Come on Indians. You can choose not to try and bully. But will you do it?
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Its nothing to do with bully. Its about events that happened in Mumbai on this very day 14 years back

Like I have said in the past - most Pakistanis never understood the gravity of 26/11 and its imprint on the psyche of Indians towards Pakistan. Anyways that's a debate for another day

Point is no way India will play any cricket match in Pakistan unless there are big changes in policy and govt relations - which is very unlikely given the current circumstances on both sides of the border. Better for Pakistan to accept this and move ahead. Its unfortunate from Pakistan's POV but it is what it is
 
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KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Do you think your dominance is eternal? If so, I’ve got a history book for you mate.
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We're not losing our dominance anytime soon. Cricket is losing its popularity in other countries while its getting stronger in India if the IPL and BCCI domestic broadcast and sponsorship rights are any indication.
 
cricketjoshila said:
These statements kill any chance of closed door negotiations, if any.
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And what about the statements made that the asia cup would be moved to a neutral country without consultation or due process? Doesnt that kill any chance of negotiation
 
emranabbas said:
Are you seriously comparing ipl with world cup
If it wasn't for the money no player would be interested in ipl
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That goes for any major league in the world lol. You think some of the top footballers in the world would go to the EPL if they didn't offer the most money?
IPL broadcast rights were sold for more money than the ICC broadcast rights.
 
Good on ramiz Hope he sticks to his word High time pakistan took a stand
 
MenInG said:
People seem to be talking about gate receipts - of course in a populous country like India, people will come but the TV audiences of a India v Zim game and India v Pakistan game are a totally different ball game
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STAR paid $3.2bn for ICC telecast rights in India.

The rights for other countries will be sold soon.

When ICC announces the amount paid for pakistan, it will be clear how valuable is the audience there.

As Indians will watch their team play, no matter which team. This has been proved by the TV audience and the rights values of IPL and the Indian domestic rights.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
So, if India (represented by their Govt/by BCCI) can do this, what’s stopping them from doing the same in 2025, for the Champions Trophy scheduled for Pakistan? Does that Champions Trophy also get moved to the UAE? The BCCI can, in 2025, say that moving the Asia Cup in 2023 was no issue, so why should moving the Champions Trophy in 2025 be one?
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India will not play the Champions Trophy in Pakistan. I can't believe people actually think there's a chance that they will.

Also, BCCI themselves agreed to shift the Asia Cup in 2018 from India to UAE when the Government didn't give clearance for Pakistan to play in India. Indian fans didn't make a fuss then. So why is it a problem for Pakistani fans only when Pakistan is hosting?
 
asfandyar said:
Wrong. When it comes to a world cup, it's the world cricket economy that is at stake. Not many countries play or watch cricket. If the most mercurial and unpredictable side is removed from the equation, the entire picture loses color. PakvInd also attracts the kind of audience all other encounters combined cannot even think to achieve.
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We will know, when ICC announces the value of the broadcast rights sold for the pakistan territory. No?

Right now ICC has sold only India territory and got $3.2bn for that.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
It’s very simple. What Rameez said, had to be said. Pakistan have, at this point, spent more than a decade demonstrating to the world that Pakistan is absolutely safe to play in.

Jay Shah unilaterally decided that the Asia Cup wouldn’t happen in Pakistan. There were no talks with the PCB, just an edict handed out by Jay.

So, if India (represented by their Govt/by BCCI) can do this, what’s stopping them from doing the same in 2025, for the Champions Trophy scheduled for Pakistan? Does that Champions Trophy also get moved to the UAE? The BCCI can, in 2025, say that moving the Asia Cup in 2023 was no issue, so why should moving the Champions Trophy in 2025 be one?

Jay Shah set the precedent here.

If Pakistan go through with this, and don’t play in the 2023 WC, they will have a colossal loss of income. But sometimes you have to take a stand, even if the effects are dangerous. Otherwise, the bully will keep bullying and India’s tactics here have gotten very old.
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Well, i said on PP earlier, its PCB's job to convince teams to play the Asia cup and CT in Pakistan, with or without India.

BCCI will try to convince teams to play in ICC events in India, with or without Pakistan.
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
India will not play the Champions Trophy in Pakistan. I can't believe people actually think there's a chance that they will.

Also, BCCI themselves agreed to shift the Asia Cup in 2018 from India to UAE when the Government didn't give clearance for Pakistan to play in India. Indian fans didn't make a fuss then. So why is it a problem for Pakistani fans only when Pakistan is hosting?
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Because pakistan has bigger hearts than india They are more than happy for india to come for asia cup

Its india who has the problem its not pakistans problem so why should we move it?
 
Zaz said:
Because pakistan has bigger hearts than india They are more than happy for india to come for asia cup
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If you have such big hearts then just shift the tournament to another country like India did for the 2018 Asia Cup. :srini:
 
Good statement from Rameez Raja.

And this is going to bother alot of Indians, especially the BJP bakhts around here and in India. The reason for that is, BJP and its supporters have always proposed that India not play in the World Cup or Asia Cup which features Pakistan. They have even went on to say that dont play Pakistan vs India games. Because for BCCI money comes first rather than some jawan that gets minced up by our Army, they never boycotted a game against us and continued to play against us in World Cups and Asia Cup. Because for them money is more important than Indian jawan lives that we take.

Now when PCB is about to make that move where they dont play against India in a world cup or even dont play the whole tournament. This is gonna make the BJP supporters crazy. Because the insult that they wanted their own team to do against Pakistan, eventually that is the insult that Pakistan is gonna hand over to India :))).

Oh man, we kill their soldiers on border and we decide whether to play against them or not. Yup that is gonna bother them.
 
MenInG said:
People seem to be talking about gate receipts - of course in a populous country like India, people will come but the TV audiences of a India v Zim game and India v Pakistan game are a totally different ball game
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Gate receipts are nothing. Real money is the deals thats broadcasters sign with board. In return, the broadcaster will make money from the subscriptions and advertisements they run.

We all know that when Pak vs India match is on, the ad space prices shoot up. Its like how ad space in the super bowl is very expensive and many brands look for that particular window to broadcast their ad and are willing to pay top dollar.

If PCB boycotts the World Cup, BCCI's broadcasters would be furious, and they will not be willing to pay top dollar to broadcast BCCI games, because the cash cow wont be there, so the potential value to gain would be much less.

This is exactly what happened with PCB when they used to sign deals with Ten Sports.
 
Major said:
If PCB boycotts the World Cup, BCCI's broadcasters would be furious, and they will not be willing to pay top dollar to broadcast BCCI games, because the cash cow wont be there, so the potential value to gain would be much less.
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Broadcasters will be furious at BCCI for... ICC events? Lol.
 
NishanKonar said:
Its nothing to do with bully. Its about events that happened in Mumbai on this very day 14 years back

Like I have said in the past - most Pakistanis never understood the gravity of 26/11 and its imprint on the psyche of Indians towards Pakistan. Anyways that's a debate for another day

Point is no way India will play any cricket match in Pakistan unless there are big changes in policy and govt relations - which is very unlikely given the current circumstances on both sides of the border. Better for Pakistan to accept this and move ahead. Its unfortunate from Pakistan's POV but it is what it is
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Maybe in the past we would have accepted it - it's unreasonable to tell us to accept it now. It's been 14 years and it never had anything to do with cricket. If it really meant that much to you then why do you play us at all?

If BCCI take actual measures to try and play and they can't, then that's a different story. But to make a unilateral statement is clearly an attempt at bullying.

Ramiz is correct that it is neccesary to stand up to India on this occasion.

To be honest, the actuality of boycotting a World Cup seems extremely unlikely at this stage regardless of what India do. But it should serve to highlight the gravity of the situation and encourage BCCI to deal with the matter properly and not try and throw their weight around by making one sided decisions.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Following a thorough tender process, ICC awarded Star Sports the global broadcast rights for all ICC Events 2015-2023. This included exclusive live and highlights rights across all platforms for ICC major events – the ICC Cricket World Cup and its qualifiers, the ICC Women’s World Cup, the ICC World Twenty20 and its qualifiers, the ICC Champions Trophy and the ICC Under-19 Cricket World Cup.

All rights sold together to STAR in 2015.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/partners/broadcasters/icc-broadcast-rights
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Where did I explicitly say India v Pakistan matches are sold separately?
 
Ok folks, Please Boycott and isolate yourself. I'm sure ICC and BCCI and all cricket boards will come crying and ask Pakistan to not boycott the event. Go ahead 👍👍👍
 
I am with Ramiz Raja in this noble endeavour. Infact most Indians are with him on this. I hope Pakistan dosen't come to India to play 2023 world cup. Thank you.

#WeAreInThisTogether

:kp
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
They can't. BCCI has given up hosting rights for the Asia Cup themselves for the same reason.
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Where and how? As far as we know there has not been a single joint discussion between the boards, no security delegation has visited and no statement has been made by the Government of India.

And if this is the case then Pakistan should be provided with some level of compensation. It is India who are refusing to play. Pakistan should not be left with the consequences without recompense.
 
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