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“We will not sell ourselves for money”: Mohsin Naqvi

U$ofA said:
Too bad then. Looks they want the cake and eat it too! Result is the idiotic mess that is ongoing.
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3 Billion $ contract is over priced anyway.. and Broadcasters know this after t20 wc 2024… so for them any excuse that can let them off the hook.. no Ind vs Pak can be that excuse
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
3 Billion $ contract is over priced anyway.. and Broadcasters know this after t20 wc 2024… so for them any excuse that can let them off the hook.. no Ind vs Pak can be that excuse
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and its thew perfect for cricket to go back to the good old days. your sport punches to the level what your economy can support.

no more leaching of a emerging market economy to support niche sport who founders did their best to limit who can participate.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Please make it a political issue. Empty threats don't suffice. Why is PCB moaning about asking India to come to Pakistan? Host the tournament without India and ask ICC to proceed with that.
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hoshiarpurexpress said:
What laws are we breaking? Simply stated that Indian team will not come to Pakistan. Proceed with tournament without India.
Playing sports is not a legal binding. Teams can skip tournaments based on their situations.

The point is to stop moaning and just host the tournament without India.
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Hosting rights are awarded after all the parties have signed on
 
Naqvi just trying to get some sort of face saving , there will be only two options on the table, hybrid or CT at South Africa. ICC is the owner of CT, not Pakistan . If majority voted against Pakistan , which they will, PCB would have no choice.
 
U$ofA said:
Did not know that teams have signed something. What have they signed? Is it legally binding?
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Of course it’s signed. How can it not be signed. Why do you think
Pak keeps on asking for reason in writing and India won’t provide it? Because of the legal issues. What is weird is that BCCI happily signed in likely in change for some benefit (support for big 3) but are now backing off from the agreement:
But this is the law of the jungle so who cares?
 
Farabi said:
Of course it’s signed. How can it not be signed. Why do you think
Pak keeps on asking for reason in writing and India won’t provide it? Because of the legal issues. What is weird is that BCCI happily signed in likely in change for some benefit (support for big 3) but are now backing off from the agreement:
But this is the law of the jungle so who cares?
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If things are legally binding, ICC/PCB do not need to hold up things. Why not just get SL in place of Ind and get CT all setup to go. This way there is none of the ongoing issues/headaches and the CT is held in its entirety in Pakistan. Which is what PCB wants and will get.

Since there is legal recourse, the ICC and PCB can go the legal route, seek and recover damages. This way PCB gets what it wants (CT in Pakistan), ICC gets its $$$$, fans get to watch a tournament, Pakistan fans get to watch live ICC tournament.

See, solution right in ICC's lap. Just need to do it.
 
U$ofA said:
If things are legally binding, ICC/PCB do not need to hold up things. Why not just get SL in place of Ind and get CT all setup to go. This way there is none of the ongoing issues/headaches and the CT is held in its entirety in Pakistan. Which is what PCB wants and will get.

Since there is legal recourse, the ICC and PCB can go the legal route, seek and recover damages. This way PCB gets what it wants (CT in Pakistan), ICC gets its $$$$, fans get to watch a tournament, Pakistan fans get to watch live ICC tournament.

See, solution right in ICC's lap. Just need to do it.
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The world doesn’t work as per law. We live in law of the jungle where money talks and BS walks. This solution while legally the right next step isn’t financially feasible for ICC which is funded and therefore controlled by India.
 
Farabi said:
The world doesn’t work as per law. We live in law of the jungle where money talks and BS walks. This solution while legally the right next step isn’t financially feasible for ICC which is funded and therefore controlled by India.
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Then this whole saga falls solely on the ICC. They are responsible for the current state of things entirely. Their inability to solve problems, make decisions, take a stand. ICC is at fault.
 
U$ofA said:
Then this whole saga falls solely on the ICC. They are responsible for the current state of things entirely. Their inability to solve problems, make decisions, take a stand. ICC is at fault.
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The ICC holds little real power and functions mostly as a glorified scheduler. The real issue is that cricket is effectively being run by India, which, unfortunately, has not shown the maturity or sensibility required to lead the sport responsibly. Many Indians boast that they don’t need the ICC or even an India vs. Pakistan rivalry. However, bringing politics into cricket is threatening the very fabric of international cricket. This ego-driven approach risks driving the sport into decline.
 
Farabi said:
The ICC holds little real power and functions mostly as a glorified scheduler. The real issue is that cricket is effectively being run by India, which, unfortunately, has not shown the maturity or sensibility required to lead the sport responsibly. Many Indians boast that they don’t need the ICC or even an India vs. Pakistan rivalry. However, bringing politics into cricket is threatening the very fabric of international cricket. This ego-driven approach risks driving the sport into decline.
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Then ICC needs to be dismantled. No point in having a bunch of people with fat paychecks doing nothing.

As you said, money talks. People signing the checks will always want to dictate terms. And they are entitled to do so. The person paying for someone's lifestyle gets to say what they want.

So, the only solution is to tilt the balance of power. This tilt has to come from the other boards. This ridiculous 90%-10% needs to be more balanced. This means the rest of the boards have to work to get their own houses in order and generate the $$$ for self sufficiency. This will automatically give more power to them while diminishing BCCI power.

Currently, none of the boards want to do anything. They are more than happy to have BCCI $$$ fall in their laps. They do not want to take the other option of actually working and generating their own money. The current CT situation is a great example. The ICC and PCB are dragging this only because they want the easy $$$ generated from the Indian market. Otherwise they would brought in SL in place of Ind a long time ago and things would have moved on.
 
Please don not post stuff related to political problems.. Stay on topic
 
Chairman PCB meets Former ECB Secretary and ICC Associate Members Committee Chairman Mubashshir Usmani

Chairman Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), Mohsin Naqvi, met with Mubashshir Usmani, former Secretary of Emirates Cricket Board and Chairman of ICC Associate Members Committee, in Dubai today. The meeting focused on finalising key arrangements for the upcoming ICC Champions Trophy 2025 and exploring opportunities to further promote cricket in Pakistan and the UAE.

Chairman PCB briefed Mr Usmani on the progress of stadium upgradation projects and reaffirmed Pakistan’s readiness to host the prestigious tournament.

“Pakistan is fully prepared to deliver a successful ICC Champions Trophy,” said Mohsin Naqvi.

“We have finalised all arrangements, including comprehensive security measures, to ensure a seamless event. Hosting this tournament is a matter of great pride for our nation, and we look forward to welcoming all teams with open arms.”

He emphasised that cricket and politics must remain separate and highlighted the Pakistan fans' passion for the game. “Pakistan is a peaceful country, and cricket is deeply loved by our nation. Fans are eagerly awaiting the thrilling contests of the ICC Champions Trophy 2025. All participating teams will be treated as state guests, with the highest level of security and hospitality provided to them,” he added.

The discussions also included collaborative measures to further cricket development in Pakistan and the UAE. The meeting was also attended by PCB Chief Operating Officer, Sameer Ahmed, and Advisor, Salman Naseer.

The ICC Champions Trophy 2025 will mark a significant milestone for cricket in Pakistan, showcasing the country’s capabilities as a premier host for international cricket events.

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I bet if financial might of PCB and BCCI were reversed, PCB would have got BCCI banned from ICC. All Pakistani posters crying about sportsmanship would simply won't care about Indian cricket, if they had the muscle BCCI has.
 
Really love this guy's guts. Reminds me of our very own PM
 
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So Indian fans do bhangra over pathetic point scoring from their government.

You would actually think as cricket fans you want to just play cricket.

But hey, "India doesn't need pakistan"
 
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Report - PCB has accepted the hybrid model .

PCB has demanded two things from ICC:
1. Increase in hosting rights from 65M$ to 70M$
2. Increase in annual revenue from ICC from 5.75% to 6%(approx. 2M$ per year)

"We will not sell ourselves for money" - Naqvi :dw :kp
 
Amjid Javed said:
So Indian fans do bhangra over pathetic point scoring from their government.

You would actually think as cricket fans you want to just play cricket.

But hey, "India doesn't need pakistan"
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When ever Indians say they don't need something, or don't care about something, it means that something is living rent free in their minds and future generations.
 
Devadwal said:
Report - PCB has accepted the hybrid model .

PCB has demanded two things from ICC:
1. Increase in hosting rights from 65M$ to 70M$
2. Increase in annual revenue from ICC from 5.75% to 6%(approx. 2M$ per year)

"We will not sell ourselves for money" - Naqvi :dw :kp
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So sold for 15 millions approx is what you are saying 🤣
 
Amjid Javed said:
So Indian fans do bhangra over pathetic point scoring from their government.

You would actually think as cricket fans you want to just play cricket.

But hey, "India doesn't need pakistan"
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As an Indian cricket fan, I strongly believe India should tour Pakistan for the Champions Trophy and set aside unnecessary drama. True cricket fans prioritize the love of the game over politics and business interests. Those fixated on the political and commercial aspects of cricket should stop calling themselves fans of the sport. :rabada2

Ironically, many of these individuals were the ones crying foul over biased umpiring and perceived injustices 25 years ago. Yet now, they applaud the BCCI’s efforts to strip Pakistan of its hosting rights, despite the country’s long-awaited opportunity to let its fans witness an ICC tournament at home. Such behavior undermines the spirit of cricket and reveals a lack of genuine passion for the game. :inti
 
Devadwal said:
Report - PCB has accepted the hybrid model .

PCB has demanded two things from ICC:
1. Increase in hosting rights from 65M$ to 70M$
2. Increase in annual revenue from ICC from 5.75% to 6%(approx. 2M$ per year)

"We will not sell ourselves for money" - Naqvi :dw :kp
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So, for 0.25 % increase in revenue , Naqvi sa'ab is OK with hybrid model?
 
Mohsin Naqvi addressing the media at Dubai cricket stadium

Journalist: There are rumors circulating among India media that Pakistan is ready for the hybrid model? Are you still firm on your stance of no hybrid model?

Naqvi: We'll do what's best for cricket, whatever formula it will be, definitely NOT hybrid model but maybe something new on EQUAL grounds.

@Giroux28


Time for indians to go back in their hole
 
Devadwal said:
Report - PCB has accepted the hybrid model .

PCB has demanded two things from ICC:
1. Increase in hosting rights from 65M$ to 70M$
2. Increase in annual revenue from ICC from 5.75% to 6%(approx. 2M$ per year)

"We will not sell ourselves for money" - Naqvi :dw :kp
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Nice fantasy
 
emranabbas said:
Mohsin Naqvi addressing the media at Dubai cricket stadium

Journalist: There are rumors circulating among India media that Pakistan is ready for the hybrid model? Are you still firm on your stance of no hybrid model?

Naqvi: We'll do what's best for cricket, whatever formula it will be, definitely NOT hybrid model but maybe something new on EQUAL grounds.

@Giroux28


Time for indians to go back in their hole
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Beauty!

Indians were never expecting this. Not everyone is bhooka and desperate like the majority of Indians, this is why they never have Plan B or C, they're arrogant enough to stick with one plan. This is precisely why India has failed to back their sensational lies - the best Asian team - propaganda with any empirical evidence.

I wonder if Jay Shah has his deal chawaal on his mind right now.
 
emranabbas said:
No, he’s not. He just did a press conference and clearly stated there will be no hybrid model.
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Allow them, the tears in their eyes have clouded their judgement and even their inability to read. I personally love it. India imploding and not a single ammunition fired, other than a press conference.

Not even their Saffron tinted glasses can help them now.
 
Devadwal said:
Report - PCB has accepted the hybrid model .

PCB has demanded two things from ICC:
1. Increase in hosting rights from 65M$ to 70M$
2. Increase in annual revenue from ICC from 5.75% to 6%(approx. 2M$ per year)

"We will not sell ourselves for money" - Naqvi :dw :kp
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Sponsor has already made it clear that they will withdraw without India's participation in the tournament.
PCB might have to start another round of IMF begging talks to conduct the tournament.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Sponsor has already made it clear that they will withdraw without India's participation in the tournament.
PCB might have to start another round of IMF begging talks to conduct the tournament.
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Any source or your just saying to satisfy your ego?
 
PCB Chairman Mohsin Naqvi, during a media interaction at the Dubai Cricket Stadium:

"A lot of things are going on, and I do not want anything to get spoilt in the middle of this rush. We have given our point of view on some points, and so have India. The only focus is on the win for cricket, that's most important and definitely, everything in proper manner and with respect."

"We are going to do what is gonna be best for cricket. Whatever the formula the tournament is played in, definitely not a hybrid formula yet, but even if it is a new formula, it will be equal for everyone. At the end of the day we want cricket to win and Pakistan's respect should be kept intact. Let's see what happens."

"My effort is to make sure that there is no one-sided arrangement where we go to India, but they don't come to Pakistan. The ongoing discussions aim to settle this matter once and for all, and whatever happens will be based on equality. I promise that any agreement will ensure equality."

"If any decision is made, it will be for the long term. This won't just be about the ICC Champions Trophy 2025; instead, it will address issues for the coming years."

"The U19 team is just as important to us as the national team. Inshallah, in the coming days, you will see that we are working on a proper plan for grooming these players and investing in them. If we invest in them today, we will see the results in the next two to four years."
 
The right quote should be:"We will not sell ourselves unless the price is right."
No offence to Pakistan... But this guy will accept anything for money.
 
PCB Chairman Mohsin Naqvi, while speaking to the media at LCCA Ground:

"We are making every effort to maximize and achieve the best results for Pakistan, its cricket, and international cricket as a whole. InshaAllah, the best outcomes will emerge."

"This is not in my hands; it is up to the ICC to decide. Pakistan has consistently played a positive role and will continue to do so, InshaAllah, for the best results."

"I won't comment on whether the ICC is treating all members equally or showing bias because discussions are ongoing. I don't want to say anything that could harm these discussions."

"My view is simple: if the ICC progresses, cricket around the world progresses. If there is a dent or damage in the ICC, the entire cricketing world suffers. I hope InshaAllah there will be improvements in everything."
 
So after this decision by the ICC i would say it's a win for Naqvi as he didn’t surrender and kept fighting for what was right.

Honestly speaking we couldn’t have expected that level of courage from any other PCB chairman.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
So after this decision by the ICC i would say it's a win for Naqvi as he didn’t surrender and kept fighting for what was right.

Honestly speaking we couldn’t have expected that level of courage from any other PCB chairman.
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How did Pakistan manage to lose what was their full hosting rights?
 
Naqvi proved to be a poor cricket administrator as well.. Nonsense appointments made by him and team selection was also worst in most cases.

2 fluke wins against England in tests cannot hide the painful embarrassing performance of Pakistan at home in the first ICC event in decades...
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Yup. Completely agree. ICC also has no jurisdiction on respective territories. England and NZ did not play WC games in 2003 in Zimbabwe due to Mugabe's policies. It is the same situation here and precedence is already there.
Just kick India out and play. the tournament in Pakistan. Same for ICC tournaments hosted in India. Pakistan must skip those.
End this hybrid nonsense.
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PCB did not listen to my advice and became greedy. All they got was heart ache. No win and no learn.
 
pakistan cricket is probably facing the worst era atm. No icc event qualifications for semis or finals, got kicked out of home event embarrassingly. Losing games up down right and left.

Hosted loss making event (reports so to be confirmed)

What else do we need from naqvi Management???
 
BouncerGuy said:
pakistan cricket is probably facing the worst era atm. No icc event qualifications for semis or finals, got kicked out of home event embarrassingly. Losing games up down right and left.

Hosted loss making event (reports so to be confirmed)

What else do we need from naqvi Management???
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I think this is Pakistan's worst cricket crisis of all time.

There were crisis in the past too (2003 WC, spot-fixing saga etc.) but previous Pakistani teams were still full of entertaining fighters. Current Pakistani team is looking pretty timid and out of confidence.

A spark is missing.
 
sweep_shot said:
I think this is Pakistan's worst cricket crisis of all time.

There were crisis in the past too (2003 WC, spot-fixing saga etc.) but previous Pakistani teams were still full of entertaining fighters. Current Pakistani team is looking pretty timid and out of confidence.

A spark is missing.
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And people are in AWWWW Moment here about Naqvi that he is great administrator etc etc. He did renovate stadiums (REALLY??) but his focus towards real cricket has been zero
 
Technics 1210 said:
Allow them, the tears in their eyes have clouded their judgement and even their inability to read. I personally love it. India imploding and not a single ammunition fired, other than a press conference.

Not even their Saffron tinted glasses can help them now.
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Aang_The_last_airbender said:
Some of the posts from November are legendary :ROFLMAO:
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My nomination for gold medal 👆🤗
 
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