Afghanistan under the Taliban regime discussion

[MenInG]

KABUL: Afghan Tali*ban’s top political leader Mul*lah Abdul Ghani Bara*dar has arrived in the Afg*han capital from Kandahar, while the key stakeholders on Saturday continued to make consultations with different political groups and leaders including women rep*resentatives as well as anti-Taliban famed comma*nders of Panjshir province to build a consensus for the formation of an inclusive government in Afghanistan.

Baradar, who co-founded the group and also took part in peace talks in Doha, would meet jihadi leaders, elders and politicians for an inclusive government set-up in the coming days, a senior Taliban official told AFP.

During the day, ex-president Hamid Karzai and cha*irman of high council for national reconciliation Abd*u*l*lah Abdullah were seen leading the efforts for peace, stability and national reconciliation. Talks bet*ween different stakeholders were held at Abdullah’s residence in Kabul, days after both the Afghan leaders had met a senior Taliban official in Kandahar.

In a series of tweets, Abdullah on Saturday said: “Along with HE @KarzaiH, in last few days we met with Afghan leaders & politicians. We discussed the current situation, & ways of helping to provide the right security for the people of Afghanistan, especially for the citizens of Kabul.” He also disclosed that they met some members of the Afghan parliament, and women activists at his residence.

Sharing photos of the meetings, Abdullah said: “We met with the elders, religious scholars, representatives & commanders of Panjshir Province in my residence in Kabul. We discussed the current developments in the country, & ways of supporting peace & stability.”

Also, he said he along with Karzai met Abdul Rahman Mansour, the acting governor of Taliban for Kabul, and discussed the security of the citizens of Kabul. “We added that in order to return to normality in the capital Kabul, it is imperative that citizens of the capital feel safe & secure. Mr Mansour assured us that he would do everything possible for the security of the people of Kabul,” the statement added.

A Taliban official told Reuters their members were accountable for their actions, vowing that reported atrocities and reprisals by any of its members would be investigated.

Just a day ago on the occasion of Afghanistan’s independence day, ex-president Karzai in a tweet stated it was time to “unite all Afghans for the betterment of the war-torn Afghanistan and for the education, development and prosperity” of the country while expressing hope for lasting peace and prosperity.

Also, Abdullah welcomed Khalil Al Rahman Haqqani-led Taliban delegation at his residence and the two sides held a detailed discussion, while in the presence of ex-president Karzai talks were also held with Fazal Hadi Muslimyar and several other elders.

On Saturday, pro-Taliban social media accounts posted a video of Khalil Haqqani announcing that Ahmad Massoud — the son of Afghanistan’s most famed anti-Taliban fighter Ahmad Shah Massoud — had “declared allegiance” to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. However, no statement has come from Massoud about the development.

The Taliban’s Haqqani group leader also met Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a former bitter rival during the brutal civil war of the early 1990s but still influential in Afghan politics.

It has been just a week since the Taliban completed a lighting fast takeover of the country, finally walking into Kabul last Sunday without firing a shot.

Since then, individual Afghans and international aid and advocacy groups have reported harsh retaliation against protests and roundups of those who formerly held government positions, criticised the Taliban or worked with Americans.

In the UK, many protesters rallied against the Taliban takeover and showed with those opposed to the new regime in Kabul. They marched behind a banner reading “Talib has not changed” while others held signs bearing slogans such as “stop the oppression of Afghan women”.

Protesters hold up placards and wave flags at a march in solidarity with the people of Afghanistan in London on Saturday. — AFP
“We have heard of some cases of atrocities and crimes against civilians,” said a Taliban official while speaking to Reuters on condition of anonymity. “If Talibs (members) are doing these law and order problems, they will be investigated. We can understand the panic, stress and anxiety. People think we will not be accountable, but that will not be the case,” he said, adding that the Taliban planned to ready a new model for governing Afghanistan within the next few weeks.

In his meeting with Khalil Haqqani, Abdullah said he supported an independent and unified Afghanistan based on justice and fairness. However, he said history showed that in the absence of social justice, providing security and strengthening national unity was impossible. Mr Haqqani assured him and others attending the meeting that the Taliban would work hard to provide the right security for the citizens of Kabul and asked for the help and support of political leaders and elders of the country in this regard.

Published in Dawn, August 22nd, 2021

 

[Yossarian]

The American and British media, along with their politicians, are going all out to create even more panic in their desire to show the UK and USA military as being the good guys.

Based upon news reports thus far, the biggest danger facing those trying to leave (and have the correct documents from the foreign countries stating they will take them in) is the scenes in and around the airport which is under the control of US and UK forces, and not from the Taliban preventing them from doing so.

Fact of the matter is that, rightly or wrongly, the Taliban are in now control of the majority of the country except for the airport. Thus far, it would appear that the Taliban want normal activity to resume.

Of course there are reports of beatings and killings, but again, thus far, not on the scale everyone expected. And some reports even claim that the Taliban leadership is unhappy with local commanders who are allowing this to happen. Bear in mind that rogue US and UK military men/women were regularly committing even greater atrocities during the last 20 years and were almost never punished. Point being that there will be individual Taliban fighters (who often joined the Taliban after seeing relatives killed by Afghan govt forces, or by US bombers dropping bombs from 30,000 feet up) who will be out for revenge, and any target will do.

As for whether or not the majority of the Afghans want the Taliban or not, I ask a simple question:
Name one Western country where the govt in power has been elected by even 40% of the population (ie not just those who bothered to vote)

As one commentator put it, the Taliban didn't fight their way in, or even walk into Kabul, they drove in. It takes a commuter longer to drive into work in most Western cities than it took the Taliban to drive into Kabul.

I personally don't despise or hate the Taliban because I've never met any of them to like or hate.
I am completely and utterly against Sharia law. Just as I'm against it's version prevalent in Saudi Arabia.

I'm a fervent believer in women having equal rights in every aspect of society, whether that be in women's rights to have education and work, freedom to marry whom they wish, go where they wish etc. But sadly it's not just under the Taliban that these rights have been trampled over. It's the case in many rural societies around the world.

I fear that Western powers are laying the groundwork for a never ending vicious civil war, between the Taliban and the Warlords, as well as resurrecting the Northern Alliance to fight the Taliban.

If that happens, then I don't know which will the greater evil. Being ruled over by the Taliban, or perpetual civil war with hundreds of thousands of innocents dying as a result.

From above:

"Based upon news reports thus far, the biggest danger facing those trying to leave (and have the correct documents from the foreign countries stating they will take them in) is the scenes in and around the airport which is under the control of US and UK forces, and not from the Taliban preventing them from doing so."

Seven people have died in the crowds at Kabul airport amid frantic scenes of people rushing to leave Afghanistan, Britain’s Ministry of Defence has said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-airport-crowds-as-uk-backs-later-us-deadline

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Watch life coming back to "normal" in Kabul

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">کابل میں کاروبار زندگی معمول پر آنا شروع <a href="https://t.co/JPlotRa6qt">pic.twitter.com/JPlotRa6qt</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1429301302069239812?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

It's a war zone?

Who are the Taliban at war with?

Yes,

Taliban are at war with:
remaining rats of Ghani's Kabul Administration,
Indian sponsored mercenaries of TTP,
DAESH/ISIS and maybe Al Qaeda,
Northern Alliance,
illegal miners who were stealing billions corresponding to Afghans,
world's richest/strongest/trillionaire heroin cartels,
and very powerful untouchable pedophiles to name a few.

There is a real possibility of a suicide bombing attacks in whole Afghanistan, just to make some news and disrupt peace.

 

[OMB]

‘Indian brothers, sisters came to rescue’: Afghan woman after fleeing Taliban

Afghans trying to escape from Kabul say they fear reprisals and others say the Taliban will enforce the rules under Islamic law, which included a ban on women stepping out of their homes.

An Afghan woman on Sunday thanked India for helping her escape the Taliban as she was evacuated from Kabul in a C-17 aircraft of the Indian Air Force (IAF) along with several others. “The situation was deteriorating in Afghanistan, so I came here with my daughter and two grandchildren. Our Indian brothers and sisters came to our rescue. They (Taliban) burnt down my house. I thank India for helping us," the woman said after landing at the Hindon Air Force Station in Ghaziabad, according to news agency ANI.

She was among the 168 people evacuated from Kabul by the IAF as the Indian government continued its efforts to bring back people from the war-torn country overtaken by the Taliban. Around 20 Afghan Sikhs and Hindus also travelled in the flight, which took off from Kabul earlier in the day.

Tens of thousands of Afghans are trying to flee the country after the Taliban seized control on August 15 even as the United States warned of security threats at Kabul's chaotic airport. Reuters reported citing witnesses that the Taliban are ensuring that people formed orderly queues outside the main gates of the airport and not allowing crowds to gather at the perimeter. The witnesses told Reuters that there was no violence or confusion at the airport but there were long lines forming.

Several videos on social media have shown Afghan families crowding, people hanging onto departing planes and even lifting a baby over a wall at the airport as more jostled pleading with American and British soldiers manning the area to help them.

The Taliban have assured that they will bring in a softer version of their brutal rule from 1996-2001 and will take steps towards forming a government. However, terrified Afghans have been hoping against hope to escape the hardline Islamist group since they took back power in Afghanistan. Some of them fear reprisals and others say the Taliban will enforce the rules under Islamic law, which included a ban on women stepping out of their homes without a male relative and a prohibition on girls.

Meanwhile, more Indians were brought out of Kabul in two more flights earlier on Sunday. They included a special Air India flight with 87 Indians, who were first taken to Tajikistan’s capital of Dushanbe from Kabul on a transport aircraft of the Indian Air Force (IAF) on Saturday.

Another 135 Indians, who were evacuated from Kabul to Doha in the last few days, were also brought back home. These Indians evacuated to Doha by US and Nato aircraft from Kabul worked with foreign companies operating in Afghanistan.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/indian-brothers-sisters-came-to-rescue-afghan-woman-after-fleeing-taliban-101629612103709.html

 

[OMB]

France: Taliban's reassuring words 'do not fool anyone'

Paris says Afghanistan will be a pariah state until international demands are met

People board a French Air Force plane for an evacuation flight to Paris, where France's government is not recognising the Taliban. AFP

The Taliban’s reassuring words about the future of Afghanistan do not “fool anyone”, French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian has said.

He said France did not recognise the Taliban government after the insurgents deposed the Nato-backed administration by force.

Afghanistan will remain a pariah state until the Taliban meet a series of European demands which are currently unfulfilled, he said.

These include handing power to a transitional government and making a firm break with Al Qaeda terrorists.

Taliban government talks continue in Kabul as US issues warning to stranded citizens
Taliban officials have sought to portray themselves in a moderate light by promising to respect women’s rights and deny shelter to terrorists.

But many Afghans and international powers are highly sceptical after the experience of the Taliban’s previous reign from 1996 to 2001.

Until the US-led invasion, strict religious laws were enforced against women and Al Qaeda used Afghanistan as a safe haven from which it plotted 9/11.

Despite reassurances to Afghans who helped Nato forces, there have been reports of Taliban fighters going door to door to track them down.

Mr Le Drian said Europe’s main demands were breaking with Al Qaeda, setting up a new government, respecting women’s rights, ensuring humanitarian access and allowing vulnerable Afghans to leave the country.

France wants a new transitional government to emerge from political talks in Doha, where the Taliban have an office.

“They know our requirements on this. Soothing speeches do not fool anyone,” he told the newspaper Le Journal du Dimanche.

“Today, none of these five points has been fulfilled. Without clear signals on these five demands, Afghanistan would become a pariah state.”

Taliban fighters on a patrol in Kabul, where promises of a more moderate reign by the militants are viewed with scepticism. AP
Aid agencies plan to stay in Afghanistan to deliver humanitarian help after Nato forces fully withdraw.

The US hoped to pull out the last of its troops by August 31, but this deadline is under increasing pressure as the rush to get people out continues.

Western troops are manning Kabul’s airport to rescue their citizens and vulnerable Afghans but Taliban checkpoints are complicating the position.

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said it would be “mathematically impossible” for evacuations to be finished by that date.

The President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, said on Saturday that the EU had operational contacts with the Taliban to arrange evacuations.

“But this is completely distinct and separated from political talks,” she said. “There’s no recognition of the Taliban.”

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said during a parliamentary debate that it would be a mistake for any country to unilaterally recognise the Taliban.

Countries with an interest in Afghanistan should “work towards common conditions about the conduct of the new regime” before recognising it, he said.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/2021/08/22/france-talibans-reassuring-words-do-not-fool-anyone/

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Wow, India is helping rescue Afghans. Or at least this lady who has thanked India and it has made the news.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Actually the article didn't say whether she was a Sikh or Hindu, from what has been reported, India is only offering refuge to citzens of those religious denominations.

 

[OMB]

Wow, India is helping rescue Afghans. Or at least this lady who has thanked India and it has made the news.

Yes lots of such news from people who have escaped. Check news and other threads too.
Naturally there will be some from Afghans who are saved by India.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Taliban has brought stability!
There is no assassinations of government officials. No bomb blast in front of schools. No suicide bombs.

Great success. And then let's forget that it's all because Taliban was behind all these stuff.

As I said before I hope karma hit's all of you who are happy Taliban are back and will restricts Afghan life's and stop any progress.

These animals at the moment are discussing if women should be allowed to go to school. Apparently the southern Taliban from Helmand and Kandahar are strictly against it.

Will they allow music?

Will they allow women at cricket matches? Football matches?

If the Afghans really wanted Taliban back then why are they holding AK47? Why not put the weapon down?

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Female anchor sent home from national tv. They have turned national tv to Mullah show.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Helping one lady here, or a Sikh/Hindu there, is commendable, and while it makes for a good headline, it really only emphasises that outsiders can't do much in Afghanistan itself without engaging with the govt. So other than make make ourselves feel more righteous, does not really achieve anything for Afghanistan itself ( as per thread topic).

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

These animals won't allow national flag with people?
Are these dogs even from Afghanistan?

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

I hope the TTP is inspired from Taliban in Afghanistan and start their own fight from Waziristan to start with. TTP leaders already seen with Taliban in Kunar. Pakistan will feel the regime change in Afghanistan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

99% of Afghans are in favour of Sharia law in the country (Pew Research Center) then we wonder why Taliban won the war. We can listen with interest to opposition voices on here, but are they representative of Afghans? Just use your common sense and decide. The evidence is in front of our eyes.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

I hope the TTP is inspired from Taliban in Afghanistan and start their own fight from Waziristan to start with. TTP leaders already seen with Taliban in Kunar. Pakistan will feel the regime change in Afghanistan.

Welcome back.

When TTP conquers Pakistan, Pakistanis get out to streets to cheer for TTP and throw stones at Pak Army, and Pakistani Army drops their weapons and flee to airports for a flight out of country, then yeah: Pakistan will feel the regime change.

Until then, kindly keep shut up pretty please.

Indian sponsored terrorists TTP are getting hunted. There is no peace for TTP barbaric terrorist animals in this world, and in the next one as well Insha'Allah.

They are and will repay for bloodshed of Pakistanis.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

99% of Afghans are in favour of Sharia law in the country (Pew Research Center) then we wonder why Taliban won the war. We can listen with interest to opposition voices on here, but are they representative of Afghans? Just use your common sense and decide. The evidence is in front of our eyes.

For Pakistan it's 84%

If you do the survey in tribal areas/Pashtun areas the answer will be 99% as well.

https://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Welcome back.

When TTP conquers Pakistan, Pakistanis get out to streets to cheer for TTP and throw stones at Pak Army, and Pakistani Army drops their weapons and flee to airports for a flight out of country, then yeah: Pakistan will feel the regime change.

Until then, kindly keep shut up pretty please.

Indian sponsored terrorists TTP are getting hunted. There is no peace for TTP barbaric terrorist animals in this world, and in the next one as well Insha'Allah.

They are and will repay for bloodshed of Pakistanis.

Wait for your turn. Taliban will rule in Waziristan too. All the weapon left from America is going to Taliban and they will train Pashtun in KPK as well. Starting from Waziristan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Wait for your turn. Taliban will rule in Waziristan too. All the weapon left from America is going to Taliban and they will train Pashtun in KPK as well. Starting from Waziristan.

Tribal areas in Pakistan already run by their own rules anyway from the inception of Pakistan. Pretty sure that will be the case for Waziristan, but feel free to correct me if not the case. I am sure you are right, there will be foreign backed terrorists sponsored to create trouble for Pakistan, difference is, they won't get local support so they will be hunted down and exterminated like rats in trash cans.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Wait for your turn. Taliban will rule in Waziristan too. All the weapon left from America is going to Taliban and they will train Pashtun in KPK as well. Starting from Waziristan.

If locals truly want a certain government/religion/party/economic system then no amount of foreign military, weapons or propaganda can convince them otherwise.

Meaning, if people of Waziristan/KPK or Punjab want a Taliban rule then no one can stop it.

USA/Nato learned this fact after spending trillions and waging a 20 long years absurd war.

2 months ago, I predicted Taliban will be in complete rule until 18th of September and by the end of 2022 they will have embassies operating in half world. But I was wrong, they might have a fully functioning gov formed before August ends and their working embassies before the end of 2021. Let's see...

 

[Loralai]

Very sad news for both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Both countries will suffer as a result of Taliban in power in Afghanistan. It will only embolden extremists in Pakistan. Only winners are Establishment as usual.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

First passenger flight just landed from Kabul to Mazar-i-Sharif in Afghanistan since Taliban took over:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بریکنگ نیوز<br>افغانستان کی سب سے بڑی ائیرلائن کام ائیر نے طالبان کنٹرول کے بعد آپریشن بحال کر دیا، پہلی پرواز کابل سے مزار شریف گئی۔<br>کام ائیر ملک میں سالوں سے کام کر رہی ہے اور ملک کے مختلف شہروں کے لیے روزانہ کئی فلائٹس کا اہتمام کرتی ہے <a href="https://t.co/yF1WsoeJV3">pic.twitter.com/yF1WsoeJV3</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1429426148035989511?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/rq141

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Female anchor sent home from national tv. They have turned national tv to Mullah show.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Very sad news for both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Both countries will suffer as a result of Taliban in power in Afghanistan. It will only embolden extremists in Pakistan. Only winners are Establishment as usual.

You are right, the Establishment will be the winners, beats having a hostile govt next door, that's for sure.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Great journalism be Al Jazeera :

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: Abdul Qahar Balkhi, from the Taliban’s Cultural Commission, spoke to Al Jazeera in the group’s first official interview since it took control of Kabul a week ago.<br><br>He revealed more about the Taliban’s vision for Afghanistan's future <a href="https://t.co/UiIx1QgUdO">pic.twitter.com/UiIx1QgUdO</a></p>— Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) <a href="https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1429373972924276736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ahmedzee]

I hope the TTP is inspired from Taliban in Afghanistan and start their own fight from Waziristan to start with. TTP leaders already seen with Taliban in Kunar. Pakistan will feel the regime change in Afghanistan.

Well, TTP are bunch of random morons and proxies in Afghanistan and tribal areas of pakistan paid by India. Whereas Afghan Taliban are actual afghans who lived there for over 300+ years, and hVe deep roots to the land. They are the children of former tribal lords of Afghanistan.

You see the difference? I know praying for an unstable pakistan is India’s (and their puppets in Afghanistan) dream always, but hate to break it to you, we have army that protects is people and they love their country rather than dropping arms and escaping to USA or India. They also serve an amazing and “fantastic” tea, should anyone of your cousins try to do anything in Pakistan.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

If the Afghans really wanted Taliban back then why are they holding AK47? Why not put the weapon down?

So they should disarm? Afghanistan should not have an Army? If they disarm other Afghans wont try to kill them?

Will they allow women at cricket matches? Football matches?

It was only recently that Saudi Arabia let women attend football matches. If the world could accept that, then they should accept it if that is the policy in Afghanistan.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Tribal areas in Pakistan already run by their own rules anyway from the inception of Pakistan. Pretty sure that will be the case for Waziristan, but feel free to correct me if not the case. I am sure you are right, there will be foreign backed terrorists sponsored to create trouble for Pakistan, difference is, they won't get local support so they will be hunted down and exterminated like rats in trash cans.

Tribal areas were merged with KPK in 2018.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Very sad news for both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Both countries will suffer as a result of Taliban in power in Afghanistan. It will only embolden extremists in Pakistan. Only winners are Establishment as usual.

The Afghan Taliban have said they wont let any group use their territory to attack neighbors. So if they keep their promise, then Pakistan will be safe from TTP and other militant groups that have used Afghanistan as their base.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Wait for your turn. Taliban will rule in Waziristan too. All the weapon left from America is going to Taliban and they will train Pashtun in KPK as well. Starting from Waziristan.

Pakistani Taliban already ruled Waziristan. At one point they were only 200 km from Islamabad, when ruled Swat. All they can do now is attack soldiers and civilians, but they dont control territory anymore.

Also the Afghan Taliban helped TTP because Pakistan was helping NATO. Now that they rule Kabul they have something to lose. If they attack Pakistan, or use proxies against Pakistan, then Pakistan can attack Afghanistan.

 

[Greenstorm]

Tribal areas in Pakistan already run by their own rules anyway from the inception of Pakistan. Pretty sure that will be the case for Waziristan, but feel free to correct me if not the case. I am sure you are right, there will be foreign backed terrorists sponsored to create trouble for Pakistan, difference is, they won't get local support so they will be hunted down and exterminated like rats in trash cans.

Tribal areas are already merged in Pakistan and are relatively peaceful. One of the major benefits of WOT for Pakistan is that it enabled the state to exercise its writ in areas which it never controlled. It allowed us to clean up most of the extremists right up till Durand line. Though there are certain pockets left in Balochistan that needs cleaning up through a final military operation.

Despite thousands of deaths and loss to economy, this period (2005-2016) will be looked at as a positive experience for Pakistan in decades from now.

 

[JaDed]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...lled-taliban-german-broadcaster-afghans-media

Relative of Deutsche Welle journalist killed by Taliban
German broadcaster urges government to support Afghans working with western media

Taliban fighters trying to track down western-affiliated journalists allegedly shot dead a family member of an editor working for Deutsche Welle and seriously injured another, the German public broadcaster has said.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">"یہ کہنا کہ حالات صرف پچھلے ایک ہفتے سے خراب ہوئے اور گزشتہ 20 سال سے خراب نہیں تھے بالکل غلط ہے" ۔ <br>ترکی کے سرکاری ٹی وی چینل کے رپورٹر علی مصطفےٰ نے مغربی میڈیا کے پروپیگنڈے سے پردہ اٹھا دیا <a href="https://t.co/jQzuDUHlRO">pic.twitter.com/jQzuDUHlRO</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1430574598869950476?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Taliban flying American taxpayers' Blackhawks

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">قندھار ائیرپورٹ کی تازہ ویڈیو<br>طالبان اب ہیلی کاپٹر اڑا رہے ہیں، ائیرپورٹ کو جلد فعال کر دیا جائے گا۔ ذرائع <a href="https://t.co/5uKUmSxBjb">pic.twitter.com/5uKUmSxBjb</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1430494999670665224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

He was a child when he was imprisoned by Americans for 11 years. Without any kind of charges, lawyer or other civilized rights...

Now that invaders are gone, his father came to the jail looking for him...

But he has lost his mind and he is still asking people "Am I free? Am I safe?"...

Truly a heartbreaking story...


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">اس نوجوان افغان نے 11 سال آمریکی جیل افغانستان میں گزارے ہیں۔ اس کا باپ اسے لینے کے لیے موجود ہے لیکن قیدی تشدد کی وجہ سے اپنا ذہنی توازن کھو چکا ہے۔ وہ نہیں سمجھتا کہ وہ آزاد ہے اور جانے کے لیے محفوظ ہے۔ وہ پوچھتا رہتا ہے: کیا میں محفوظ ہوں؟ <a href="https://t.co/5I8hLSGlOS">pic.twitter.com/5I8hLSGlOS</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1430771992941056003?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[mazkhan]

Pakistani Taliban already ruled Waziristan. At one point they were only 200 km from Islamabad, when ruled Swat. All they can do now is attack soldiers and civilians, but they dont control territory anymore.

Also the Afghan Taliban helped TTP because Pakistan was helping NATO. Now that they rule Kabul they have something to lose. If they attack Pakistan, or use proxies against Pakistan, then Pakistan can attack Afghanistan.

Ttp carried out ied attack in s waziristan

Ttp will implement a similar system to its ally in Afghanistan.

They are tribal pakhtuns and there's no reason they won't want a parallel state like afghan taliban ruling their areas.

Only a matter of time when pakistan talks with ttp and starts withdrawing troops from fata eventually. Pakistan won't be able to continue this conflict without the coalition support fund.

 

[Firebat]

There has been a reported suicide bombing at Kabul airport with unconfirmed reports of at least 10 deaths.

The incident is said to have taken place outside the Abbey Gate - where American and British forces have been stationed.

The US says there have been some casualties, but the number is unknown. The UK says there is no record of British casualties so far.

It comes after warnings that there could be militant attacks, as nations evacuate people ahead of a 31 August deadline.

UK Armed Forces Minister James Heappey earlier told the BBC the threat was "severe" and could be "imminent".

There are no details of the threat, thought to be from so-called Islamic State militants.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Yes,

Taliban are at war with:
remaining rats of Ghani's Kabul Administration,
Indian sponsored mercenaries of TTP,
DAESH/ISIS and maybe Al Qaeda,
Northern Alliance,
illegal miners who were stealing billions corresponding to Afghans,
world's richest/strongest/trillionaire heroin cartels,
and very powerful untouchable pedophiles to name a few.

There is a real possibility of a suicide bombing attacks in whole Afghanistan, just to make some news and disrupt peace.

Lol “Indian sponsored mercenaries…” FYI, contrary to what Modi devotees would want you to believe, India’s intelligence network is pretty ****. Our military is incompetent and under equipped. Our air force is outdated and floundering. Our navy is always sinking, and not just the submarines. The only reason we are a geo political strong player is because we are the third largest Asian economy and the fifth globally. Beyond that, we are not deserving of any credit for any form of sophistication.

 

[OMB]

'We are jumping the gun': MEA on question of recognition of Taliban rule by India

Currently, there is no clarity about any entity forming a government in Kabul, Arindam Bagchi said reiterating the first commitment of the country to safely evacuate the people.


The ministry of external affairs on Friday reiterated that the first priority of the government at this moment is to safely evacuate people from Afghanistan. The question of whether to recognise the Taliban rule in Afghanistan or not comes later. "The situation on the ground is uncertain (in Afghanistan). The primary concern is the security and safety of people. Currently, there is no clarity about any entity forming a government in Kabul. I think we are jumping the gun regarding recognition," MEA spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said during a press briefing on Friday.

External affairs minister S Jaishankar on Thursday briefed an all-party meeting on the Afghanistan situation where he underlined that the current stance of India is to wait and watch. At the same time, India is engaged with important stakeholders and other countries on the Afghan issue. What need to be seen first is whether the new dispensation in Afghanistan will be solely a government of the Taliban or be part of a power-sharing arrangement with other Afghan leaders, the ministry has clarified.

On August 15, the Taliban completed its capture of Afghanistan except for the Panjshir province, as Kabul fell to the hands of the group. Since then, several rounds of consultations are going on regarding the next government of Afghanistan. While initially an interim set-up was proposed, later the Taliban reportedly claimed their government and names of several ministers have been already announced. But the anti-Taliban force which has been negotiating a peace deal with the Taliban is pitching for an all-inclusive government.

Unless it's cleared who is going to govern Afghanistan, the question of recognition does not arise, the external affairs ministry has made it clear. India has been in touch with countries such as the US, UK, France, Russia, China, Germany, Qatar, Iran, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kazakhstan as well as with the UN Secretary-General and UN Security Council on the developments in Afghanistan, the ministry has said.

Countries like China, Canada, Tajikistan have already clarified their stance on recognising or not recognising the Taliban in Afghanistan. During the Taliban's previous rule in Afghanistan, they remained antagonistic with India as India refused to recognise the Taliban government and had supported the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, led by Ahmad Shah Massoud.

India's evacuation drive from Kabul will go on, Bagchi said adding that a vast majority of Indians who wanted to return have been evacuated. Some Afghan nationals have also been rescued, the spokesperson said adding that the primary focus of India will be to evacuate Indian nationals but India will also stand by Afghans who stood by Indians.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/we-are-jumping-the-gun-mea-on-recognition-of-taliban-rule-in-india-101630064250822.html

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Watch a Taliban soldier hitting an Afghan citizen

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">طالبان کا ایک سپاہی کابل کی سڑک پر ایک شہری کو مارتے ہوئے <a href="https://t.co/obS4MRu6dj">pic.twitter.com/obS4MRu6dj</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1431234082353074180?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Last Monetarist]

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taliban-say-afghans-will-be-able-travel-freely-future-2021-08-27/

Afghans with valid documents will be able to travel in the future at any time, a senior Taliban official said on Friday in a televised address aimed at calming fears the movement planned harsh restrictions on freedom.

"The Afghan borders will be open and people will be able to travel at any time into and out of Afghanistan," Sher Mohammad Abbas Stanikzai, deputy head of the movement's political commission said.

The message came as thousands have struggled to get onto the last flights leaving Kabul airport before a deadline for the Western evacuation operation ends next week.

Calling on Afghans to unite to rebuild their country, Stanikzai said that trained and educated people should come back to work.

"The ground is prepared for the doctors, engineers and teachers that Afghanistan needs and for people from every profession, whether civilian or military. All are invited to start their work," he said.

Coming after a separate statement calling on female health staff to return to work, the message underlined efforts by the Taliban to reassure Afghans and the international community that they do not plan a return to their previous harsh rule.

The desperate scenes outside Kabul airport, where a suicide bomber killed at least 92 people on Thursday, have provided a dramatic image of the fears that many well-educated Afghans feel at the prospect of life under Taliban rule.

With the afghani currency falling sharply, many banks still shut and food prices rising quickly, daily life has become much more difficult for many Afghans since the dramatic collapse of the Western-backed government this month.

Stanikzai reiterated that the Taliban welcomed help from countries that wanted to play a positive role in Afghanistan though he said they would not accept interference in its internal affairs.

 

[rhony]

Almost half of Afghanistans revenue is through international aid. It has stopped now. They are literally beggars. Majority of their exports are drugs. God save the citizens there.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Since Taliban took over, this is the first protest against them. The reason being lack of financial activity as banks are closed...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">طالبان کے دور حکومت کے دوران کابل میں پہلا احتجاجی مظاہرہ<br>اقتصادی مسائل کے خلاف مظاہرہ میں نوجوانون اور خواتین شریک ہوئے۔ <a href="https://t.co/9KFUdcRExk">pic.twitter.com/9KFUdcRExk</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1431729606168559618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Almost half of Afghanistans revenue is through international aid. It has stopped now. They are literally beggars. Majority of their exports are drugs. God save the citizens there.

They were beggars anyway if they were relying on foreign aid. They are sitting on £trillions worth of resources, there is no need for them to beg to anyone. A partnership with other nations based on respect and mutual benefit can raise the standard of living for all Afghans given hostile forces will allow it. China and Russia look to be prime candidates as of now.

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Afghanistan is set to form its own government in a few days, said Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi Tuesday, hours after the last US soldier left Afghanistan.

"We expect that a consensus government will be formed in the coming days in Afghanistan," Shah Mehmood Qureshi told a news conference in Islamabad with German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas by his side.

Qureshi said Pakistan was already hosting three million Afghan refugees, adding that they were being provided all facilities including health, education etc.

"Pakistan has kept its borders open. People are travelling between the two countries and trade is also going on," he said.

Qureshi called on the international community to provide Afghanistan with every possible help. "Pakistan wishes to see a stable, prosperous and progressive Afghanistan," he added.

The German foreign minister, on the other hand, welcomed the Afghan Taliban's recent statements in which they have promised no retribution and assured to uphold human rights in the country.

Haas said it would be better if a broad-based, inclusive government was formed in Afghanistan.

He said that the situation in Afghanistan had changed "dramatically", adding that Pakistan had helped in the evacuation of the citizens of Afghanistan, Germany and other countries.

"I have spoken to Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on the Afghanistan issue," he said. "We would like to thank Pakistan for evacuating German citizens from the country."

The United States expects the Taliban to live up to their commitments now that US troops have pulled out of Afghanistan, but any legitimacy or support will need to be "earned," US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Tuesday.

America's top diplomat, speaking just hours after the final US evacuation flights left Kabul, said Washington has suspended its diplomatic presence in Kabul as of Monday and shifted its operations to Qatar.

"Our troops have departed Afghanistan," Blinken said. "A new chapter of America's engagement with Afghanistan has begun.

"It's one in which we will lead with our diplomacy. The military mission is over; a new diplomatic mission has begun."

Blinken said the United States was committed to helping every American who wants to depart Afghanistan to leave the country.

He said a small number of US citizens remained in the country -- "under 200" but likely closer to just 100 -- and wanted to leave.

Blinken said the Taliban would need to live up to their commitments to provide freedom of travel, to respect the rights of women and minorities and to not allow the country to become a base for terrorism.

"Any legitimacy and any support will have to be earned," Blinken said.

GEO

 

[OMB]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Afghanistan: Armed Taliban fighters surround presenter during TV interview <a href="https://t.co/DWqRTZRLIn">https://t.co/DWqRTZRLIn</a></p>— Sky News (@SkyNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1432666406441586692?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[MenInG]

Kabul: After several weeks of speculation, the Taliban has now publicly announced that Mullah Hebatullah Akhundzada will be the Supreme Leader of their new Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

Confirming the new to local media outlet TOLO News, Anamullah Samangani, member of the Taliban’s cultural commission, said that the new government has been finalised and an announcement would soon be made, wherein Akhundzada will be the leader of the new administration.

“Consultations are almost finalized on the new government, and the necessary discussions have also been held about the cabinet. The Islamic government that we will announce will be a ... model for the people. There is no doubt about the presence of the Commander of the Faithful (Akhunzada) in the government. He will be the leader of the government and there should be no question on this,” Samangani was quoted by TOLO News as saying.

Reports in local media have also emerged that state that there will also be a person who would assume the role of prime minister.

“The name of the new system should be neither republic nor emirate. It should be something like an Islamic government. Hebatullah should be at the top of the government, and he will not be the president. He will be the leader of Afghanistan. Below him there will be a prime minister or a president that will work under his oversight,” a political analyst told the Afghan news broadcaster.

After their blitzkrieg to bring down the Ashraf Ghani government, the Taliban has appointed several governors and police chiefs for the provinces and districts that are under their control. Only the province of Panjshir is not under Taliban’s governance yet.

“The Islamic Emirate is active in each province. There is a governor in each province, who has started working. There is a district governor for each district and a police chief in each province who are working for the people,” Abdul Hanan Haqqani, another Taliban member, said.

 

[OMB]

Mullah Baradar to lead new Afghanistan government: Taliban sources

Mullah Baradar, the head of the Taliban's political office, will lead the new government in Afghanistan, at least three sources in the group said on Friday.

Mullah Mohammad Yaqoob, the son of late Taliban founder Mullah Omar, and Sher Mohammad Abbas Stanekzai will take senior positions in the government, the sources said.

A day earlier, Taliban official Ahmadullah Muttaqi said on social media a ceremony was being prepared at the presidential palace in Kabul, while private broadcaster Tolo said an announcement on a new government was imminent.

The legitimacy of the new government in the eyes of international donors and investors will be crucial for the economy as the country battles drought and the ravages of a conflict that took the lives of an estimated 240,000 Afghans.

The Taliban's supreme leader, Haibatullah Akhundzada, is expected to have ultimate power over a new governing council, with a president below him, a senior Taliban official told Reuters last month.

The supreme Taliban leader has three deputies: Mawlavi Yaqoob, son of the movement's late founder Mullah Omar; Sirajuddin Haqqani, leader of the powerful Haqqani network; and Abdul Ghani Baradar, one of the founding members of the group.

Economic collapse

Humanitarian organisations have warned of catastrophe as severe drought and the upheavals of war have forced thousands of families to flee their homes.

Afghanistan desperately needs money, and the Taliban are unlikely to get swift access to the roughly $10 billion in assets mostly held abroad by the Afghan central bank.

The new, Taliban-appointed central bank head has sought to reassure banks the group wants a fully functioning financial system, but has given little detail on how it will provide the liquidity needed, bankers familiar with the matter said.

Afghanistan's real gross domestic product is expected to shrink by 9.7% this financial year, with a further drop of 5.2% seen next year, said analysts in a report from Fitch Solutions, the research arm of ratings agency Fitch Group.

Foreign investment would be needed to support a more optimistic outlook, a scenario which assumed "some major economies, namely China and potentially Russia, would accept the Taliban as the legitimate government", Fitch said.Mullah Yaqoob and Stanekzai will take senior positions, sources say

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2318409/mullah-baradar-to-lead-new-afghanistan-government-taliban-sources

 

[Major]

A group of Afghan women staged a protest today in #Kabul to demand their right to work and education.
The Taliban have reportedly banned many women from working outside their homes and girls from attending school, university.
Yesterday, a similar demonstration broke out in the western city of Herat.
Credit : Frud Bezhan, Journalist covering Afghanistan.

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[Colorblind Genius]

A group of Afghan women staged a protest today in #Kabul to demand their right to work and education.
The Taliban have reportedly banned many women from working outside their homes and girls from attending school, university.
Yesterday, a similar demonstration broke out in the western city of Herat.
Credit : Frud Bezhan, Journalist covering Afghanistan.

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Isn't it a proof in itself that women in Afghanistan can freely launch a protest in the open public?

Otherwise, according to your likes, those savage Talibans would've slaughtered all these women at the spot. No?

Talibans have put many things at hold for now. Even announcing their own govt.
And Yes, they have asked females to stay at home for own safety, and those who already had jobs, to stay at home temporarily as well, till the law n order situation gets better for their own safety... and while they are at home, they will keep getting their salaries.

 

[Major]

Isn't it a proof in itself that women in Afghanistan can freely launch a protest in the open public?

Otherwise, according to your likes, those savage Talibans would've slaughtered all these women at the spot. No?

Talibans have put many things at hold for now. Even announcing their own govt.
And Yes, they have asked females to stay at home for own safety, and those who already had jobs, to stay at home temporarily as well, till the law n order situation gets better for their own safety... and while they are at home, they will keep getting their salaries.

cant believe we have people who think it is allright to ban women from work and education and think this is a very sane procedure where you ask females to stay home temporarily. Careers of many people can be affected by this.

And any govt in subcontinent can make claim you will get paid, its up to the employers whether they would pay someone for 0 work or not

The law or order situation was messed up by the taliban itself.

When a group protest, that doesnt show that they have been given rights or ehsan to protest, you have to dig deeper and see what they are protesting about.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

cant believe we have people who think it is allright to ban women from work and education and think this is a very sane procedure where you ask females to stay home temporarily. Careers of many people can be affected by this.

And any govt in subcontinent can make claim you will get paid, its up to the employers whether they would pay someone for 0 work or not

The law or order situation was messed up by the taliban itself.

When a group protest, that doesnt show that they have been given rights or ehsan to protest, you have to dig deeper and see what they are protesting about.

You didn't answer the question, and steered away.
Why didn't Talibans kill all these women for being out in the streets protesting against Talibans? Isn't this what they are, according to you and Godi media?

 

[Major]

You didn't answer the question, and steered away.
Why didn't Talibans kill all these women for being out in the streets protesting against Talibans? Isn't this what they are, according to you and Godi media?

you think the taliban would get away with killing people like this in public?

Funny how you relate this as if the Taliban is doing some ehsaan to let them protest while completely ignoring what they are protesting for.

Like in old times, when someone protest against the king for human rights violation and the king responds that look i am letting them to protest against me.....

 

[Colorblind Genius]

you think the taliban would get away with killing people like this in public?

Funny how you relate this as if the Taliban is doing some ehsaan to let them protest while completely ignoring what they are protesting for.

Like in old times, when someone protest against the king for human rights violation and the king responds that look i am letting them to protest against me.....

well ... you tried to bring them to justice in an effort that cost trillions of dollars in 20 years ... and you failed ... what do you think will make them to not get away with it if they kill all these women? What you gonna do if they kill all these protesting women? Send in American troops again? lol

Try again, why didn't the blood thirsty women hating Talibans kill all these women? who would stop them?

 

[Major]

well ... you tried to bring them to justice in an effort that cost trillions of dollars in 20 years ... and you failed ... what do you think will make them to not get away with it if they kill all these women? What you gonna do if they kill all these protesting women? Send in American troops again? lol

Try again, why didn't the blood thirsty women hating Talibans kill all these women? who would stop them?

you do know tht Afhganistan is fighting for global recognition and would also be trying to keep its economy afloat and not resort back to selling opimium like the taliban used to.

You really miss the point here, you think the fact that those women can protest shows the taliban being modern while the main problem is that they are not being allowed to work or get an education.

Most of those women would be getting death threats later on.

for you banning women education and work is a non issue..

 

[Colorblind Genius]

you do know tht Afhganistan is fighting for global recognition and would also be trying to keep its economy afloat and not resort back to selling opimium like the taliban used to.

You really miss the point here, you think the fact that those women can protest shows the taliban being modern while the main problem is that they are not being allowed to work or get an education.

Most of those women would be getting death threats later on.

for you banning women education and work is a non issue..

For me banning women education and work is a non issue? How did you jump to that conclusion?

But then again, you can't have it both ways.

On one hand, you support the narrative that Talibans are blood thirsty women hatting savages. How do you know this? Have you recently seen Talibans brutally killing scores of females? If yes, please present your evidence.
If not, you claim that these protesting women will later be executed. Isn't that too much of a speculation to feel good about your pre-conceived mindset?

Watch a few videos of a female Pakistani journalist Sumaira Khan. She has been reporting live from Afghanistan over a few days.

You want war torn Afghanistan to become nothing less than utopia overnight, otherwise, you will accept anything else.
Well... keep dreaming.

 

[Major]

For me banning women education and work is a non issue? How did you jump to that conclusion?

But then again, you can't have it both ways.

On one hand, you support the narrative that Talibans are blood thirsty women hatting savages. How do you know this? Have you recently seen Talibans brutally killing scores of females? If yes, please present your evidence.
If not, you claim that these protesting women will later be executed. Isn't that too much of a speculation to feel good about your pre-conceived mindset?

Watch a few videos of a female Pakistani journalist Sumaira Khan. She has been reporting live from Afghanistan over a few days.

You want war torn Afghanistan to become nothing less than utopia overnight, otherwise, you will accept anything else.
Well... keep dreaming.

Read history of 1995 and you will get your answer.

Many people pretend as Taliban are the new guys, but they are not.

They committed atrocities back than and will repeat their actions again.

Back than the attrocities happened under the name of Shariah Law, that it was against the Shariah for women to work or get an education. So you are teliing me that in 20 years the Shariah got updated?

The Taliban has said they will implement the Shariah, so how is it that the Shariah of 1995 is different to the Shariah of 2021?

I want a war torn Afghanistan to be a democratic country, because while many think under Taliban they will be moving towards progression while i think otherwise. I believe with the Taliban coming back Afghanistan has return back to square 1.

This country will only become normal when a proper govt is formed. Now that could either be a dictatorship but that needs to a kind of dictatorship that actually is able to control and govern the country while giving its citizens its rights. Or a proper democracy in which the leader has control over the country.

If Taliban does human rights violation than there are going to be resistance and infighting will again start. Plus, during the elected govt and USA presence, Warlords like Gulbaddin Hekmatyar and Faryadi Zardad had their hands tied. With the US gone, who knows what these guys pull out this time. Hekmatyar was known for throwing acid on womens faces during his time at Kabul uni for not wearing veils

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Read history of 1995 and you will get your answer.

Many people pretend as Taliban are the new guys, but they are not.

They committed atrocities back than and will repeat their actions again.

Back than the attrocities happened under the name of Shariah Law, that it was against the Shariah for women to work or get an education. So you are teliing me that in 20 years the Shariah got updated?

The Taliban has said they will implement the Shariah, so how is it that the Shariah of 1995 is different to the Shariah of 2021?

I want a war torn Afghanistan to be a democratic country, because while many think under Taliban they will be moving towards progression while i think otherwise. I believe with the Taliban coming back Afghanistan has return back to square 1.

This country will only become normal when a proper govt is formed. Now that could either be a dictatorship but that needs to a kind of dictatorship that actually is able to control and govern the country while giving its citizens its rights. Or a proper democracy in which the leader has control over the country.

If Taliban does human rights violation than there are going to be resistance and infighting will again start. Plus, during the elected govt and USA presence, Warlords like Gulbaddin Hekmatyar and Faryadi Zardad had their hands tied. With the US gone, who knows what these guys pull out this time. Hekmatyar was known for throwing acid on womens faces during his time at Kabul uni for not wearing veils

99% of Afghans said they wanted Sharia law in the last Pew survey carried out to garner opinion. You say you want Afghanistan to be a democratic country, but it sounds like they'd vote for exactly the system you're railing against.

I think you need to learn what the west has finally accepted. Only Afghans can bring change, people who have no relation or or respect for their wishes can't pretend to be speaking on their behalf. Nothing wrong with your opinions, I myself would agree with them...in the UK. What the Afghans do or want for Afghanistan is their business, I am not about to tell them how they should live their lives.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Read history of 1995 and you will get your answer.

Many people pretend as Taliban are the new guys, but they are not.

They committed atrocities back than and will repeat their actions again.

Back than the attrocities happened under the name of Shariah Law, that it was against the Shariah for women to work or get an education. So you are teliing me that in 20 years the Shariah got updated?

The Taliban has said they will implement the Shariah, so how is it that the Shariah of 1995 is different to the Shariah of 2021?

I want a war torn Afghanistan to be a democratic country, because while many think under Taliban they will be moving towards progression while i think otherwise. I believe with the Taliban coming back Afghanistan has return back to square 1.

This country will only become normal when a proper govt is formed. Now that could either be a dictatorship but that needs to a kind of dictatorship that actually is able to control and govern the country while giving its citizens its rights. Or a proper democracy in which the leader has control over the country.

If Taliban does human rights violation than there are going to be resistance and infighting will again start. Plus, during the elected govt and USA presence, Warlords like Gulbaddin Hekmatyar and Faryadi Zardad had their hands tied. With the US gone, who knows what these guys pull out this time. Hekmatyar was known for throwing acid on womens faces during his time at Kabul uni for not wearing veils

at "read the history" to get my answer.

Son, I visited Afghanistan in that era of Talibans in 90's. Not once but quite a few times. Being a resident of Peshawar I daily dealt with general Afghani public for more than 25 years.
And I can tell you, with all the atrocities that THOSE Talibans committed in THAT era, Afghanistan had never seen a more peaceful era after the arrival of soviets.

There was a continuous infighting between the 7 Afghani groups who swore upon Quran INSIDE Makkah that they wont fight among themselves.

Yet, they continued to fight, loot and kill each other.

Talibans were the only ones, who curbed them all and put them where they belonged.
Were Talibans perfect? No. they were way, way far from it. But the did bring some sort of peace to the country.

And, this is what I am hoping for a minimum. Peace!

General Afghanies would literally walk in the streets of Kabul late night with a wallets full of cash, and no one dared to mess with them. I have seen it.

There is a reason why 99% Afghans in a recent poll opted for Talibans/Sharla Law, (while you suggest others to "read" history of that era).


During the last 20 years under the American occupation and under the puppet govts, Afghanistan is continuously hovering over the # 1 spot on the list of world's most corrupt countries.

If Talibans are able to bring peace, and reduce corruption to begin with, I will definitely give them the face value for that.

To speculate that, they are going to permanently ban women from work and school, is something that makes you feel better about yourself. Good for you.
However, Talibans have already addressed this issue.

Definitely they cannot make everything perfect for your pleasure, but lets wait and see how things go. After all they are one of the poorest third world country. And no one can fix it all in such a situation.

 

[cric_man]

Has Panjsher fallen. I heard Saleh ran away to Tajikistan?

 

[Major]

at "read the history" to get my answer.

Son, I visited Afghanistan in that era of Talibans in 90's. Not once but quite a few times. Being a resident of Peshawar I daily dealt with general Afghani public for more than 25 years.
And I can tell you, with all the atrocities that THOSE Talibans committed in THAT era, Afghanistan had never seen a more peaceful era after the arrival of soviets.

There was a continuous infighting between the 7 Afghani groups who swore upon Quran INSIDE Makkah that they wont fight among themselves.

Yet, they continued to fight, loot and kill each other.

Talibans were the only ones, who curbed them all and put them where they belonged.
Were Talibans perfect? No. they were way, way far from it. But the did bring some sort of peace to the country.

And, this is what I am hoping for a minimum. Peace!

General Afghanies would literally walk in the streets of Kabul late night with a wallets full of cash, and no one dared to mess with them. I have seen it.

There is a reason why 99% Afghans in a recent poll opted for Talibans/Sharla Law, (while you suggest others to "read" history of that era).


During the last 20 years under the American occupation and under the puppet govts, Afghanistan is continuously hovering over the # 1 spot on the list of world's most corrupt countries.

If Talibans are able to bring peace, and reduce corruption to begin with, I will definitely give them the face value for that.

To speculate that, they are going to permanently ban women from work and school, is something that makes you feel better about yourself. Good for you.
However, Talibans have already addressed this issue.

Definitely they cannot make everything perfect for your pleasure, but lets wait and see how things go. After all they are one of the poorest third world country. And no one can fix it all in such a situation.

Like i said, read history instead of calling people ur son on online forums...

The so called peace came with draconian laws, where women were barred from going to work and getting am education. If you were a widow and had small children there was no way to feed yourself..

Mullah omar had no banker or economist thus he made himself finance minsiter and just gave out money without any book keeping.

People were not even allowed to enjoy life. Books were burned, you were forced to have a beard, infact, the taliban would take down your pants and measure the keangth of your pubic hair. More than 1 inches long, and you are going to jail.....

The fact that you claim you went to taliban afghanistan shows you have no idea of the problames they faced.

The peace that everyone talks about was for a few intial months, after which draconian laws were introduced.

The obly difference between 1992 afghanistan and 1996 afghanistan was that no rival was gonna kill you or loot you, but taliban could.


They were charging a 50 % tax rate on profit making businesses as mullah omar and its taliban had no idea how to run an economy.

 

[saeedhk]

ISI chief Faiz Hameed arrives in Kabul.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Like i said, read history instead of calling people ur son on online forums...

The so called peace came with draconian laws, where women were barred from going to work and getting am education. If you were a widow and had small children there was no way to feed yourself..

Mullah omar had no banker or economist thus he made himself finance minsiter and just gave out money without any book keeping.

People were not even allowed to enjoy life. Books were burned, you were forced to have a beard, infact, the taliban would take down your pants and measure the keangth of your pubic hair. More than 1 inches long, and you are going to jail.....

The fact that you claim you went to taliban afghanistan shows you have no idea of the problames they faced.

The peace that everyone talks about was for a few intial months, after which draconian laws were introduced.

The obly difference between 1992 afghanistan and 1996 afghanistan was that no rival was gonna kill you or loot you, but taliban could.


They were charging a 50 % tax rate on profit making businesses as mullah omar and its taliban had no idea how to run an economy.

Lols. "Women rights ™" "economy" "1996" "draconian laws"

Just stop reading news and replying threads for a few days. What's coming is gonna be tough for people like you to swallow.

Here is a probable spoiler for you: Taliban will have a completely formed government, slowly the whole world will recognize their rule, they will have working embassies and fake news media will run out of propaganda points to run.

Seriously, a friendly suggestion, go outside, run, binge a comedy show or something...

 

[Major]

Lols. "Women rights ™" "economy" "1996" "draconian laws"

Just stop reading news and replying threads for a few days. What's coming is gonna be tough for people like you to swallow.

Here is a probable spoiler for you: Taliban will have a completely formed government, slowly the whole world will recognize their rule, they will have working embassies and fake news media will run out of propaganda points to run.

Seriously, a friendly suggestion, go outside, run, binge a comedy show or something...

yes i should stopp reading news, books and accounts of people who had lived through the taliban.

If you think the stories of people lives under Taliban rule is all Propoganda than that shows you are a sympathizer of the Taliban and would be bias in judgement and argument.

 

[OMB]

17 Killed In Celebratory Gunfire In Kabul: Reports

Afghanistan: At least 14 were injured in celebratory firing in Nangarhar province east of the capital, said a spokesman for an area hospital in provincial capital of Jalalabad.

At least 17 people were killed in celebratory gunfire in Kabul, news agencies said on Saturday, after Taliban sources said their fighters had seized control of Panjshir, the last province in Afghanistan holding out against the Islamist group.
Leaders of opposition to the Taliban have denied that the province has fallen.

The Shamshad news agency said "aerial shooting" in Kabul on Friday killed 17 people and wounded 41. Tolo news agency gave a similar death count.

At least 14 people were injured in celebratory firing in Nangarhar province east of the capital, said Gulzada Sangar, spokesman for an area hospital in the provincial capital of Jalalabad.

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The gunfire drew a rebuke from the main Taliban spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid.

"Avoid shooting in the air and thank God instead," Mujahid said in a message on Twitter. "Bullets can harm civilians, so don't shoot unnecessarily."

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/afghanistan-crisis-17-killed-in-celebratory-gunfire-in-kabul-reports-2529652

 

[OMB]

17 Killed In Celebratory Gunfire In Kabul: Reports

Afghanistan: At least 14 were injured in celebratory firing in Nangarhar province east of the capital, said a spokesman for an area hospital in provincial capital of Jalalabad.

At least 17 people were killed in celebratory gunfire in Kabul, news agencies said on Saturday, after Taliban sources said their fighters had seized control of Panjshir, the last province in Afghanistan holding out against the Islamist group.
Leaders of opposition to the Taliban have denied that the province has fallen.

The Shamshad news agency said "aerial shooting" in Kabul on Friday killed 17 people and wounded 41. Tolo news agency gave a similar death count.

At least 14 people were injured in celebratory firing in Nangarhar province east of the capital, said Gulzada Sangar, spokesman for an area hospital in the provincial capital of Jalalabad.

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The gunfire drew a rebuke from the main Taliban spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid.

"Avoid shooting in the air and thank God instead," Mujahid said in a message on Twitter. "Bullets can harm civilians, so don't shoot unnecessarily."

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/afghanistan-crisis-17-killed-in-celebratory-gunfire-in-kabul-reports-2529652

War kills people, you know?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Very interesting interview by Sohail Shaheen,

@14:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFWvbLFGUew

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Read history of 1995 and you will get your answer.

Many people pretend as Taliban are the new guys, but they are not.

They committed atrocities back than and will repeat their actions again.

Back than the attrocities happened under the name of Shariah Law, that it was against the Shariah for women to work or get an education. So you are teliing me that in 20 years the Shariah got updated?

The Taliban has said they will implement the Shariah, so how is it that the Shariah of 1995 is different to the Shariah of 2021?

I want a war torn Afghanistan to be a democratic country, because while many think under Taliban they will be moving towards progression while i think otherwise. I believe with the Taliban coming back Afghanistan has return back to square 1.

This country will only become normal when a proper govt is formed. Now that could either be a dictatorship but that needs to a kind of dictatorship that actually is able to control and govern the country while giving its citizens its rights. Or a proper democracy in which the leader has control over the country.

If Taliban does human rights violation than there are going to be resistance and infighting will again start. Plus, during the elected govt and USA presence, Warlords like Gulbaddin Hekmatyar and Faryadi Zardad had their hands tied. With the US gone, who knows what these guys pull out this time. Hekmatyar was known for throwing acid on womens faces during his time at Kabul uni for not wearing veils

I watched an old video of Benazir and I think she put it nicely when she stated, when their is no democracy in Pakistan why should Pakistanis be expected to fight for democracy in Afghanistan. Their is too much tyranny in Pakistan for Pakistanis to be moved by stories of tyranny in Afghanistan.

From the 2:00 minute mark

Let us hope that the Taliban modernize so that it will be good for the Afghan people, esp women. However if they dont, unfortunately its the Afghan people's problem.

 

[MenInG]

Taliban officials have broken up a demonstration by dozens of women in Kabul demanding rights following the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan.

The group say the Taliban targeted them with tear gas and pepper spray as they tried to walk from a bridge to the presidential palace.

But the Taliban maintain the protest got out of control, according Afghan media outlet Tolo news.

It's the latest of several protests by women in Kabul and Herat.

The women were calling for the right to work and to be included in the government. The Taliban say they will announce the make-up of their administration in the coming days.

The Taliban have said women can be involved in government, but not hold ministerial positions.

Many women fear a return to the way they were treated when the Taliban were previously in power, between 1996 and 2001. Women were forced to cover their faces outside, and harsh punishments were meted out for minor transgressions.

"Twenty-five years ago, when the Taliban came, they prevented me from going to school," journalist Azita Nazimi told Tolo.

"After five years of their rule, I studied for 25 years and worked hard. For the sake of our better future, we will not allow this to happen."

Another demonstrator, Soraya, told Reuters: "They also hit women on the head with a gun magazine, and the women became bloody."

Clashes have meanwhile continued in the Panjshir Valley, north of Kabul, where resistance fighters have been thwarting efforts by the Taliban to exert control.

But there's been claim and counter-claim. The Taliban maintain they've taken control of two more districts and are heading for the centre of the province.

A spokesman for the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan (NRF) said heavy fighting was continuing and thousands of Taliban had been surrounded.

The Panjshir Valley, home to between 150,000 and 200,000 people, was a centre of resistance when Afghanistan was under Soviet occupation in the 1980s and during the Taliban's previous period of rule.

The NRF's leader, Ahmad Massoud, praised protests by women in Herat, and said Panjshir continued to resist.

None of the claims by the NRF or the Taliban could be independently verified.

In a further sign of Kabul's airport resuming activity following the US withdrawal last week, Afghan airline Ariana announced the resumption of internal flights to three cities: Herat, Mazar-i-Sharif and Kandahar.

Al-Jazeera TV quoted Qatar's ambassador as saying a technical team from Qatar had succeeded in reopening the airport to receive aid flights.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is travelling to Qatar on Sunday. The country plays a key mediating role in Afghanistan, but he is not expected to meet anyone from the Taliban.

The head of Pakistan's spy agency, the ISI, General Faiz Hameed has arrived in Kabul, but gave nothing away when questioned by reporters.

An official told Reuters earlier this week he could help the Taliban reorganise the Afghan military.

The ISI has been accused by Western powers of backing the Taliban, something denied by Pakistan.

BBC

 

[Major]

I watched an old video of Benazir and I think she put it nicely when she stated, when their is no democracy in Pakistan why should Pakistanis be expected to fight for democracy in Afghanistan. Their is too much tyranny in Pakistan for Pakistanis to be moved by stories of tyranny in Afghanistan.

From the 2:00 minute mark

Let us hope that the Taliban modernize so that it will be good for the Afghan people, esp women. However if they dont, unfortunately its the Afghan people's problem.

you are right that Pakistan itself doesnt have democracy. But atleast to some extent we have a governance system.

What Afghanistan lack is that governance system. THat control that needs to be there over the whole country.

I just feel bad for the Afghanis for what htey have to go through and really wish the country can get peace one day.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I watched an old video of Benazir and I think she put it nicely when she stated, when their is no democracy in Pakistan why should Pakistanis be expected to fight for democracy in Afghanistan. Their is too much tyranny in Pakistan for Pakistanis to be moved by stories of tyranny in Afghanistan.

From the 2:00 minute mark

Let us hope that the Taliban modernize so that it will be good for the Afghan people, esp women. However if they dont, unfortunately its the Afghan people's problem.

Unfortunately Pakistan is the least qualified nation to worry about women's rights in Afghanistan. A place where a woman can be tossed about and groped by 400 men in a national park because she was making a Tik Tok video? First rule needs to be established, and a culture where the public have trust in law enforcement agencies. Progress starts from there.

 

[MenInG]

In early May, as US and Nato forces began their final withdrawal from Afghanistan, the Taliban stepped up their military offensive against Afghan national security forces.

But they also did something less common in the group's history of conflict in the country - they launched a comprehensive social media campaign to go with it.

A network of social media accounts highlighted the alleged failures of the Kabul government while lauding the Taliban's achievements.

Tweets boasted about the group's recent victories - sometimes prematurely - and pushed several hashtags, including #kabulregimecrimes (attached to tweets accusing the Afghan government of war crimes); #westandwithTaliban (an attempt to drive grassroots support) and #ﻧَﺼْﺮٌ_ﻣٌِﻦَ_اللهِ_ﻭَﻓَﺘْﺢٌ_ﻗَﺮِﻳﺐٌ (help from God and victory is near). The first of the hashtags at least trended in Afghanistan.

In response, Afghanistan's then-Vice President Amrullah Saleh warned his forces and the public not to fall for false claims of Taliban victories on social media, and called on people to avoid sharing details of military operations that could compromise security.

The coordination suggested the Taliban had moved on from the staunch opposition to modern information technology and media once associated with them, and built a social media apparatus to amplify their message.

When the Taliban first came to power in Afghanistan in 1996, they banned the internet and confiscated or destroyed television sets, cameras, and video tapes. In 2005, the official website of Islamic Emirates of Taliban, 'Al-Emarah', was launched and now publishes content in five languages - English, Arabic, Pashto, Dari, and Urdu. The audio, video, and written content is overseen by the cultural commission of Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan (IEA), headed by their spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid.

Zabihullah Mujahid's first Twitter account was suspended by the company, but his new account - active since 2017 - has more than 371,000 followers. Underneath him is a dedicated team of volunteers promoting the Taliban's ideology online.

The reported head of that group - effectively the social media director of the IEA - is Qari Saeed Khosty.

Mr Khosty told the BBC the team had separate groups focused on Twitter - attempting to get Taliban hashtags trending - as well as disseminating messages on WhatsApp and Facebook.

"Our enemies have television, radio, verified accounts on social media and we have none, yet we fought with them on Twitter and Facebook and defeated them," Mr Khosty said.

His job, he said, was to take people who had joined the Taliban because of its ideology and "bring them to social media platforms so they amplify our message".

There are just 8.6 million internet users in Afghanistan, and absence of network coverage and affordable data remains a key challenge. The IEA social media team team pays 1,000 Afghanis (£8.33; $11.51) per month for data packages for team members "fighting their war online", Mr Khosty said.

He boasted that the IEA had "four fully equipped multimedia studios that are used for generating audio, video content and digital branding".

The result is high-quality propaganda videos glorifying Taliban fighters and their battles against foreign and national forces, widely available on their YouTube and Al-Emarah websites.

The group publishes freely on Twitter and YouTube, but Facebook has designated the Taliban a "dangerous organisation" and frequently removes accounts and pages associated with them. Facebook has said it will continue to ban Taliban content from its platforms.

Mr Khosty told the BBC the Taliban was finding it hard to sustain their presence on Facebook, and was focusing instead on Twitter.

Although the US State Department has designated the Haqqani Network as an international terrorist group, their leader Anas Haqqani and many members of the group have Twitter accounts with thousands of followers.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, one member of the Taliban's social media team told the BBC that the team decided to use Twitter in earnest to promote a New York Times opinion article written by Sirajuddin Haqqani, the deputy leader of the Taliban, in February 2020. Most of the active Taliban accounts on Twitter were created after that.

"Most Afghans don't understand English, but the leaders of the Kabul regime actively communicated in English on Twitter - because their audience is not Afghans but the international community," he said.

"The Taliban wanted to counter their propaganda and that's why we too focused ourselves on Twitter."

He said the team members, some of whom have tens of thousands of followers, were issued specific guidelines "not to comment on the foreign policy issues of neighbouring countries that would constrain our relations with them".

In the past, the Taliban were known for being highly secretive about the identity of their leaders and fighters. So much so that there are barely any clear pictures of group's founder, Mullah Omer.

Today, in an effort to gain international legitimacy, their leadership is not only making media appearances but promoting them heavily on social media. When the group's previously secretive spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, made a press conference appearance shortly after the fall of Kabul, the profile pictures of many Taliban Twitter accounts were changed to his image.

By contrast, many Afghan citizens who worked for international forces, organisations, media and others who were critical of the Taliban on social media are now deactivating their accounts, fearing that the information could be used to target them.

Human rights organisations Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch say they have already received reports of Taliban fighters searching for, and allegedly killing, people in reprisal attacks.

Facebook has launched a one-click tool for people in Afghanistan to quickly lock down their account, preventing anyone not already listed as a friend from seeing their details. The site also announced it had temporarily removed the ability to view and search the "Friends" list for accounts in Afghanistan.

The question is whether the Taliban have changed and abandoned the brutality associated with the group. Many in Afghanistan and around the world do not believe their promises of change.

But they appear to have grasped that some of the technology they once shunned can help them in their quest to shape opinion on a global stage.

"Social media is powerful tool to change public perception," said the social media team member. "We want to change the perception of the Taliban."

 

[Last Monetarist]

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/taliban-fire-air-scatter-kabul-protesters-no-reports-injuries-2021-09-07/

The Taliban named Mullah Hasan Akhund, an associate of the movement's late founder Mullah Omar, as head of Afghanistan's new government on Tuesday and Sirajuddin Haqqani, whose organization is on a U.S. terrorism list, as interior minister.

Haqqani is the son of the founder of the Haqqani network, designated as a terrorist organisation by the United States. He is one of the FBI's most wanted men due to his involvement in suicide attacks and ties with Al Qaeda.

Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, head of the movement's political office, was appointed as Akhund's deputy, main Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told a news conference in Kabul. Baradar's appointment as Akhund's deputy, rather than to the top job, came as a surprise to some as he had been responsible for negotiating the U.S. withdrawal and presenting the face of the Taliban to the world. Baradar, also once a close friend of Mullah Omar, was a senior Taliban commander in charge of attacks on U.S. forces. He was arrested and imprisoned in Pakistan in 2010, becoming head of the Taliban's political office in Doha after his release in 2018.

Mullah Mohammad Yaqoob, son of Mullah Omar, was named as defence minister. All the appointments were in an acting capacity, Mujahid said.

It was not clear what role in the government would be played by Mullah Haibatullah Akhundzada, the Taliban supreme leader. He has not been seen or heard in public since the collapse of the Western-backed government and the seizure of Kabul by the Islamist militant movement last month, as U.S.-led coalition forces completed their withdrawal after a 20-year war.

White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters on Air Force One, as President Joe Biden flew to New York, that there would be no recognition of the Taliban government soon. The Taliban have repeatedly sought to reassure Afghans and foreign countries they will not return to the brutality of their last reign two decades ago, marked by violent punishments and the barring of women and girls from public life.

Akhund, the new head of government, has been close to supreme leader Akhunzada for 20 years, and is longtime chief of the Taliban's powerful decision-making body Rehbari Shura, or leadership council. He was foreign minister and then deputy prime minister when the Taliban were last in power from 1996-2001.

Mujahid, speaking against a backdrop of collapsing public services and economic meltdown, said an acting cabinet had been formed to respond to the Afghan's people's primary needs.

He said some ministries remained to be filled pending a hunt for qualified people. The United Nations said earlier on Tuesday that basic services were unravelling in Afghanistan and food and other aid were about to run out. More than half a million people have been displaced internally in Afghanistan this year. An international donor conference is scheduled in Geneva on Sept. 13. Western powers say they are prepared to send humanitarian aid, but that broader economic engagement depends on the shape and actions of the Taliban government.

The appointment of a group of established figures from different elements of the Taliban gave no indication of any concession towards protests that broke out in Kabul earlier in the day, which Taliban gunmen fired in the air to disperse.

Hundreds of men and women shouting slogans such as "Long live the resistance" and "Death to Pakistan" marched in the streets to protest against the Taliban takeover. Neighbouring Pakistan has deep ties with the Taliban and has been accused of assisting its return to power - charges Islamabad denies.

The Taliban's rapid advance across Afghanistan last month triggered a scramble to leave by people fearing reprisals. U.S.-led foreign forces evacuated about 124,000 foreigners and at-risk Afghans, but tens of thousands were left behind.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the United States was in contact with about 100 Americans who were still in Afghanistan.

About 1,000 people, including Americans, have been stuck in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif for days awaiting clearance for charter flights to leave, an organiser told Reuters, blaming the delay on the U.S. State Department. Blinken, holding talks in Qatar, a key interlocutor with the Taliban, said the problem was one of documents.

"My understanding is that the Taliban have not denied exit to anyone holding a valid document, but they have said those without valid documents, at this point, can't leave," he told reporters.

"Because all of these people are grouped together, that's meant that flights have not been allowed to go."

On Monday, the Taliban claimed victory in the Panjshir valley, the last province holding out against it.

Pictures on social media showed Taliban members standing in front of the Panjshir governor's compound after days of fighting with the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan (NRFA), commanded by Panjshiri leader Ahmad Massoud.

Massoud denied that his force, consisting of remnants of the Afghan army as well as local militia fighters, was beaten, and tweeted that "our resistance will continue".

 

[MenInG]

The US has said it is concerned after the Taliban unveiled Afghanistan's new all-male government with figures linked to attacks on American forces.

The US State Department said it was assessing Tuesday's announcement.

The interim cabinet is led by Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund, who is on a UN blacklist. Another figure, Sirajuddin Haqqani, is wanted by the FBI.

Separately on Tuesday, three people were shot dead at a protest in the western city of Herat.

Medical workers said they were killed when Taliban militants opened fire.

In the capital Kabul, the Taliban also fired warning shots as hundreds of people demonstrated in the streets.

The Islamist group seized control of most of Afghanistan in a sweeping offensive more than three weeks ago, ousting the previous elected leadership.

US Senator Lindsey Graham described the new caretaker cabinet as a "line-up of thugs and butchers". He is one of a number of senior Republicans to condemn as "ill-advised" Democratic President Joe Biden's decision to withdraw from Afghanistan.

The Taliban government - who also on Tuesday declared Afghanistan an "Islamic Emirate" - faces tough challenges in the conflict-torn country, not least stabilising the economy and gaining international recognition.

The group had previously said they wanted to form an inclusive government.

Who's who in the Taliban leadership

In a statement on Tuesday, the US State Department said: "We note the announced list of names consists exclusively of individuals who are members of the Taliban or their close associates and no women.

"We also are concerned by the affiliations and track records of some of the individuals."

It added that America would "judge the Taliban by its actions, not words."

The statement said Washington would "continue to hold the Taliban to their commitments" to allow safe passage for foreign nationals and Afghans with travel documents, "including permitting flights currently ready to fly out of Afghanistan".

"We also reiterate our clear expectation that the Taliban ensure that Afghan soil is not used to threaten any other countries," it said, adding: "The world is watching closely."

 

[Sir-fraz]

For Pakistan it's 84%

If you do the survey in tribal areas/Pashtun areas the answer will be 99% as well.

https://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

Just shows the levek of iq in these areas. Ready to give up their freedom and rights over some medieval traditions.

 

[Sir-fraz]

I watched an old video of Benazir and I think she put it nicely when she stated, when their is no democracy in Pakistan why should Pakistanis be expected to fight for democracy in Afghanistan. Their is too much tyranny in Pakistan for Pakistanis to be moved by stories of tyranny in Afghanistan.

From the 2:00 minute mark

Let us hope that the Taliban modernize so that it will be good for the Afghan people, esp women. However if they dont, unfortunately its the Afghan people's problem.

Lol if only she wasnt a corrupt B****.. its all about power and control and like what she did when she was in power the taliban will do the same. They dont care about religion.

Its clearly about control and power.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

‘They attacked us & killed our children’: Grieving Afghan fathers demand fair investigation of US dr

‘They attacked us & killed our children’: Grieving Afghan fathers demand fair investigation of US drone strike in Kabul (VIDEO)

https://www.rt.com/news/534266-afghanistan-children-killed-drone-strike/

The surviving family members are still “in shock” after the attack and simply can’t return to their home, where they’ve found “parts of the children's bodies” scattered around, Akhmadi told RT. “Mentally, we are not in a stable condition. The women are dead silent. They don’t speak.


I guess Afghan blood is cheaper than water to spill... heartbreaking stuff.

 

[Last Monetarist]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/qatari-foreign-minister-visits-kabul-al-jazeera-says-2021-09-12/

Qatari foreign minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al-Thani held talks with the Taliban-appointed prime minister on Sunday, a Taliban spokesman said, in the highest level foreign visit to Kabul since the group seized the capital last month.

Qatar is considered one of the countries with the most influence over the Taliban and played a pivotal role in the massive U.S.-led airlift of its own citizens, other Western nationals and Afghans who helped Western countries.

The Qatari capital Doha was also the home of the Taliban's political office which oversaw the negotiations with the United States that eventually led to the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan.

Sheikh Mohammed met Prime Minister Mullah Muhammad Hassan Akhund and a number of other senior ministers, a Taliban spokesman said on Sunday.

"The meeting focused on bilateral relations, humanitarian assistance, economic development and interaction with the world," according to a statement from Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen.

Sunday's meeting in the presidential palace, first reported by Al Jazeera television, was attended by a number of other Afghan ministers including deputy Prime Minister Abdul Salam Hanafi, Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi, Defence Minister Yaqoob Mujahid, Interor Minister Sirajuddin Haqqani and intelligence chief Abdul Haq Wasiq.

Shaheen said the leadership of the Islamic Emirate, the term used to describe the new order in place in Afghanistan, thanked the Qatar government for supporting the Afghan people.

It said the Doha agreement, signed by the United States and the Taliban, was a "landmark achievement, all sides should adhere to its implementation."

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Taliban have rescued these children from pedophile human traffickers. Four of these pedophile animals were killed and 2 were arrested.


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