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Ahmed Shehzad [The Mega Discussion Thread]

Did well today on a difficult pitch. I don't like the guy and neither do I believe that he is some great player, but he is best opener we have atm so we have to stick with him.
 
cant really criticize him today! faced ashwin and jadeja on a raging turner and survived. had the openers fallen there could have been a massacre!
 
Lucky to be dropped at the right time - had he been selected for the England tour, he wouldn't have managed to average higher than 15 and would dropped for at least 2-3 years.

Even now, he is right back at the end of the queue with Sam Aslam and Azhar Ali the new Test openers.
 
I've mentioned before it was a blessing in disguise for him

He would have averaged in the teens
 
Slog said:
I've mentioned before it was a blessing in disguise for him

He would have averaged in the teens
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But he has a good technique and he likes to grind out daddy hundreds which would have been perfect in those conditions, he is also an excellent fielder and catcher, especially considering the amount of dollies we dropped in the series. Also nearly forgot to mention his cricketing acumen, his impressive on field suggestion were sorely missed and IMO that cost us at least 1 victory and the series win.

Shezhad should definitely have been in the team, after all he scored a daddy ton vs NZ's feared pace attack.
 
Somethings doesn't feels right several Ahmed shehzad's twitter fan clubs reporting that Inzi has selected Ahmed shehzad for a 3 day match against west indies upon Pcb clearance .
It is another cheap stunt by Ahmed Shehzad on Social media ? I think this guy pays to his twitter clubs to self propagate himself.
 
Deception said:
Somethings doesn't feels right several Ahmed shehzad's twitter fan clubs reporting that Inzi has selected Ahmed shehzad for a 3 day match against west indies upon Pcb clearance .
It is another cheap stunt by Ahmed Shehzad on Social media ? I think this guy pays to his twitter clubs to self propagate himself.
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News is that Ahmed Shehzad & Sadaf Hussain will be part of the 3 day match squad.

Hope the match is in Dubai and they make a greenish wicket like they made 2 years ago in a Test Match :)
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
News is that Ahmed Shehzad & Sadaf Hussain will be part of the 3 day match squad.

Hope the match is in Dubai and they make a greenish wicket like they made 2 years ago in a Test Match :)
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Why waste so much money on players like shehzad simply play the ODI team 3 day match. Bachat hee bachatt lol
 
shaz619 said:
Such self righteous snobs are no different to the "shehzadians" if not worse and are everything they hate.
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It is a problem though that Shehzad lives in his own reality and the people around him feed into this delusion of his that he is some world class cricketer. It's pretty easily seen by how often he compares himsef to greats of the game or touts his made up records

This exact attitude is the reason why he has not improved in 6-7 years and has only regressed.

So the problem they are pointing to is a genuine one which is that while Shehzad is mediocre batsman by every metric, he refuses to believe that and the people who are close to him who should be telling the hard truths to him don't do that and instead cheerlead him even more. The consequence is that he has never put in the work to genuinely work on his cricketing flaws
 
Unfortunate man, really unfortunate. Keeping his antics aside during Afridi's time, his career progression was direction less. After coming back in 2013, he had a good start, but soon Dav left & WY took charge, who, with due respect isn't the best tool to fix career of young batsman.

After almost 2 years of tug of war with his game (& Coach Waquar), he lost his place, just when Arthur had joined. Now, he is such out of form that probably can't make even the 30 men preliminary squad. Arthur is a hard task master - he is starting the classroom with a clean board. He has picked few young players like Babar, Sharjeel, Rizwan, even Umar by age is young & he'll give them enough time before dropping.

Also, few more from younger lot are awaiting ahead of Ahmmed now - Sami, Jaahid, Fakher, Amin, Saud, may be even Zain Abbas. I am sure, had Ahmed gone through Aurther's regime, he would have definitely improved his game, but his number is way behind now. Without backing, his career might be almost over prematurely like Selim Elahi or Hasan Raja.
 
MMHS said:
Unfortunate man, really unfortunate. Keeping his antics aside during Afridi's time, his career progression was direction less. After coming back in 2013, he had a good start, but soon Dav left & WY took charge, who, with due respect isn't the best tool to fix career of young batsman.

After almost 2 years of tug of war with his game (& Coach Waquar), he lost his place, just when Arthur had joined. Now, he is such out of form that probably can't make even the 30 men preliminary squad. Arthur is a hard task master - he is starting the classroom with a clean board. He has picked few young players like Babar, Sharjeel, Rizwan, even Umar by age is young & he'll give them enough time before dropping.

Also, few more from younger lot are awaiting ahead of Ahmmed now - Sami, Jaahid, Fakher, Amin, Saud, may be even Zain Abbas. I am sure, had Ahmed gone through Aurther's regime, he would have definitely improved his game, but his number is way behind now. Without backing, his career might be almost over prematurely like Selim Elahi or Hasan Raja.
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Interesting. Similarly, Bob Woolmer another hard task master deserves credit for Afridi's improvement during his tenure which sought of backs up your point.

Shehzad has his faults but there's no denying that things could have turned out a lot better for him in an environment which wasn't so toxic.
 
shaz619 said:
Interesting. Similarly, Bob Woolmer another hard task master deserves credit for Afridi's improvement during his tenure which sought of backs up your point.

Shehzad has his faults but there's no denying that things could have turned out a lot better for him in an environment which wasn't so toxic.
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Bob also improved Akhter lot - without him, he would have been finished by 2005.

Ahmed was a prodigious talent during U19 days, easily better than players 1/2 years senior to him, but sadly early succes went into his head. Had he been someone like even Malik, could have been s fantastic player. He even stopped his leg spin & deteriorated considerably in his fielding - these are all result of bad company & poor man management (by his coaching staffs)
 
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] is a master of Shehzad's Stats :-)

When he will Post Pre 2013 and Post 2013 Stats of Shehzad than All Misbah, Waqar, Mohsin, Dav debates and theories will Die Down ;-)
 
MMHS said:
Bob also improved Akhter lot - without him, he would have been finished by 2005.

Ahmed was a prodigious talent during U19 days, easily better than players 1/2 years senior to him, but sadly early succes went into his head. Had he been someone like even Malik, could have been s fantastic player. He even stopped his leg spin & deteriorated considerably in his fielding - these are all result of bad company & poor man management (by his coaching staffs)
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100% agree, have you by any chance read the art and science of cricket by Bob? having read that I have no doubt in my mind that Bob was the greatest cricket coach of all time.

Who would you say is a bigger loss, Ahmed Shehzad or Mohammad Ashraful ?
 
shaz619 said:
100% agree, have you by any chance read the art and science of cricket by Bob? having read that I have no doubt in my mind that Bob was the greatest cricket coach of all time.

Who would you say is a bigger loss, Ahmed Shehzad or Mohammad Ashraful ?
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None for the team - poor attitude player costs team in a different way. Individually Ash, because he played for a weaker team - could have played in 6 WCs till 2023, if not 7. Ahmed was always in risk of losing his spot as the competition was more. Had Afridi not been there, he was gone after WC with Umar (which would have been a blessing for him).
 
MMHS said:
None for the team - poor attitude player costs team in a different way. Individually Ash, because he played for a weaker team - could have played in 6 WCs till 2023, if not 7. Ahmed was always in risk of losing his spot as the competition was more. Had Afridi not been there, he was gone after WC with Umar (which would have been a blessing for him).
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I just feel bad the route which Ahmed Shehzad has chosen, previously the criteria for a dropped player was to perform well in domestic but now things have changed according to Ahmed Shehzad, according to his believe may be your close friends need to be journalists to propagate your name day n night, have a few twitter clubs with your paid loyal fans, have some connection to ruling government party !
 
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TalentSpotterPk said:
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] is a master of Shehzad's Stats :-)

When he will Post Pre 2013 and Post 2013 Stats of Shehzad than All Misbah, Waqar, Mohsin, Dav debates and theories will Die Down ;-)
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The Shehzadians are very committed and keep me engaged haha

As for pre and post 2013 state. He's been consistently poor
 
Slog said:
They're not personally attacking her or any thing to be honest though she shouldn't be brought up at all I guess

The fact that he is a failure at international cricket who seems to be temperamentally weak even off the field seeing the way he ran away crying from the t20 tournament
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did he really cry ?
 
Haroon786 said:
He can't rotate strike to save his life, his 60 SR starts mean that Pakistan are on the back foot straightaway and his 75 SR 50s only serve to preserve his place in the side and not to win the game for his country.

You might think this is a knee jerk reaction to his disgraceful dismissal which has precipitated this thread, but no this has been on my mind for a long time and not only does he deserve to be booted out of the team, but only be brought back when he can score at 85 SR, his dot play is a plague to Pakistan Cricket, that needs to be eradicated soon if there is any chance of success at the WC and future competition.

The selectors still have an opportunity, drop him and pick a much more deserving player, or regret for the next generation.Q
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Will you bring him back now, as he had a S/R of above 85 in the Pakistan Cup? :23:

By the way, why did you create a mega thread for a player you don't like? :13:
 
The Last Of The Stars said:
Will you bring him back now, as he had a S/R of above 85 in the Pakistan Cup? :23:

By the way, why did you create a mega thread for a player you don't like? :13:
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Have better players than him not even debuted yet.

The original thread title was 'Ahmed Shezhad : when will the torture end ?', after a year and a bit, the title was changed as PP had a big surge in popularity and the mods didn't want new visitors and also players who view the forum to see such type of thread titles because of their accentuated nature.
 
Ahmed Shehzad : The One Down Warrior

Played at one down against the West Indies XI in the game with the PCB Patron XI.

Scored a fast 50 in uncomfortable hot and humid conditions.

Could he make a living as a one down batsman? Earlier on he said he tried to model himself on Ricky Ponting, could this be the next phase in the transformation?
 
Lol this is one epic troll :)) [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] you dog!

And what was his strike rate for you to call the innings fast?

Shan Masood outperformed him and Masood got out due to a run out not due to the bowler

I know OP is trolling but the sad things is that Shehzads fans will lap it up. So the new modus operandi is to play Shehzad at every number possible and find which number he sucks least at?
 
Shan Masood > Shehzad .

Well, not really, but nothing to separate them much. Sully on a roll again.
 
Should've been in the squad as the back-up opener. He can play if Aslam and/or Azhar gets injured. :shehzad
 
LowKiiSavage said:
Poor guy. Is a better test opener than both of the players. Still cannot get a place in the test squad.
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They haven't performed poorly so he can't replace either one. Considering this is a "home" series, if one our openers does get injured then we can just call Shehzad back from Pakistan.
 
Rayyman said:
They haven't performed poorly so he can't replace either one. Considering this is a "home" series, if one our openers does get injured then we can just call Shehzad back from Pakistan.
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Why would he be recalled

He's failed for several months straight in every format

Failed in CPl

Ran away crying from national t20

Failed in first round of QeA

Not being picked for the England tour was the best thing ever for him otherwise his misleading record would have been wrecked and that is just about the last thing his fans can cling to right now
 
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Slog said:
Why would he be recalled

He's failed for several months straight in every format

Failed in CPl

Ran away crying from national t20

Failed in first round of QeA
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Yes, he has failed in the limited overs format, but his Test match record is pretty good and he just scored 51 in the PCB Patriots match against WI.
 
Rayyman said:
Yes, he has failed in the limited overs format, but his Test match record is pretty good and he just scored 51 in the PCB Patriots match against WI.
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51 isn't some earth shattering score

Shan freakin Masood outperformed him and would have scored even more if he wasn't run out
 
Slog said:
51 isn't some earth shattering score

Shan freakin Masood outperformed him and would have scored even more if he wasn't run out
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It isn't an earth shattering score, but we don't have many other options anyway. Masood didn't outperform him. Masood 58(191), Shehzad 52(130). Masood took a staggering 61 more balls to get 6 more runs than Shehzad!! :O . Masood's run out could've have been his fault as well. He certainly doesn't deserve to be in the squad over Shehzad as he failed miserably in both of his Test matches in England this summer. Shehzad was dropped due to one bad Test match in 2015.
 
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Just can't see him coming to Test XI.

In LOIs he simply isn't good enough to represent Pakistan. Azhar Ali is a better ODI opener than him.
 
Slog said:
51 isn't some earth shattering score

Shan freakin Masood outperformed him and would have scored even more if he wasn't run out
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If he had made 100 or 17 you'd still be hating so that's irrelevant really :yk2 When you say Masood outperformed him, what he scored 6 more runs :yk #Hater #SlogyBhaiOnAAG

Anyway, a decent performance from him, Ifti and Masood but our opening slots are fine mA and long may Aslam/Azhar prosper, I'd have shehzad in contention as a back up but needs to sort his head out first. Fawad messed up, he needs to be scoring big hundreds to get noticed or else he won't get picked but has a chance in the future when there will be openings in the middle order.
 
I am not a Shehzad fan, but tbh he is a pretty good Test player and was unfairly dropped after getting hit by Anderson. Test match is the only format where he can succeed and could be recalled to partner Sami Aslam at the top.
 
Rayyman said:
It isn't an earth shattering score, but we don't have many other options anyway. Masood didn't outperform him. Masood 58(191), Shehzad 52(130). Masood took a staggering 61 more balls to get 6 more runs than Shehzad!! :O . Masood's run out could've have been his fault as well. He certainly doesn't deserve to be in the squad over Shehzad as he failed miserably in both of his Test matches in England this summer. Shehzad was dropped due to one bad Test match in 2015.
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Neither deserve to be in squad

Shehzad may or may not have been dropped unfairly but the thing is that you can't justify a bad decision now by saying a bad decision was taken before as well because otherwise Asim Kamal needs a recall

The fact is that Shehzad has done nothing in months to merit any international chance. If he does wel in the remaining FC season and Sami Aslam doesn't work out we'll then surely hell come back naturally and no one can begrudge him that

Shehzads bad luck was that when he was dropped Shan Masood made a historic match winning century the next game and naturally got a longer run
 
Slog said:
Neither deserve to be in squad

Shehzad may or may not have been dropped unfairly but the thing is that you can't justify a bad decision now by saying a bad decision was taken before as well because otherwise Asim Kamal needs a recall

The fact is that Shehzad has done nothing in months to merit any international chance. If he does wel in the remaining FC season and Sami Aslam doesn't work out we'll then surely hell come back naturally and no one can begrudge him that

Shehzads bad luck was that when he was dropped Shan Masood made a historic match winning century the next game and naturally got a longer run
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I agree for the most part, but I'd rather have Shehzad there instead of TTFs like Manzoor and Hafeez.
 
shaz619 said:
If he had made 100 or 17 you'd still be hating so that's irrelevant really :yk2 When you say Masood outperformed him, what he scored 6 more runs :yk #Hater #SlogyBhaiOnAAG

Anyway, a decent performance from him, Ifti and Masood but our opening slots are fine mA and long may Aslam/Azhar prosper, I'd have shehzad in contention as a back up but needs to sort his head out first. Fawad messed up, he needs to be scoring big hundreds to get noticed or else he won't get picked but has a chance in the future when there will be openings in the middle order.
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If he'd made 100 id obviously acknowledge his score and would have said he should be front of the line in case Sami Aslam has a stinker of a series

Infact if you really want get into facts you can dig up my posts from a year ago when I wanted Shehzad to be starting the England test series in UAE. But he has regressed a lot since then and earlier atleast he used to bully domestic competitions but now he's not even doing that
 
Slog said:
If he'd made 100 id obviously acknowledge his score and would have said he should be front of the line in case Sami Aslam has a stinker of a series

Infact if you really want get into facts you can dig up my posts from a year ago when I wanted Shehzad to be starting the England test series in UAE. But he has regressed a lot since then and earlier atleast he used to bully domestic competitions but now he's not even doing that
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Even if he did get the 100 am not sure if I'd want him in the team at this stage but at the same time perhaps Mickey would be influential in getting his act together in the same way Bob Woolmer handled the likes of Akhtar and Afridi. Yeah technically he has regressed which is a shame given his early promise but there is still hope for him if he works hard. But for now we are lucky that there are two openers in the squad who deserve the investment of a long rope
 
He has regressed far too much in recent times to be opening in Test cricket. Why not just let Azhar and aslam open for this series and see how that goes?
 
shaz619 said:
Even if he did get the 100 am not sure if I'd want him in the team at this stage but at the same time perhaps Mickey would be influential in getting his act together in the same way Bob Woolmer handled the likes of Akhtar and Afridi. Yeah technically he has regressed which is a shame given his early promise but there is still hope for him if he works hard. But for now we are lucky that there are two openers in the squad who deserve the investment of a long rope
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Let's hope Mickey can do that where many others have failed

If he can get someone's act together I hope it's Umar Akmals as well

He is genuinely very skilled and has potential for an all round game so it was disappointing not to see him get a chance in ODIs
 
LowKiiSavage said:
Poor guy. Is a better test opener than both of the players. Still cannot get a place in the test squad.
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What ?

Sami Aslam had an excellent comeback vs England and Azhar is a proven player and had a great Test at the Oval as an opener.
 
I think if you place dummies instead of real humans as fielders, 4 out of 5 of his drives will perfectly find the center of their legs on the ground. He is just not able to find the gaps.
 
goran said:
I am not a Shehzad fan, but tbh he is a pretty good Test player and was unfairly dropped after getting hit by Anderson. Test match is the only format where he can succeed and could be recalled to partner Sami Aslam at the top.
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Remember Sri Lanka...
 
Shezhad currently averages 14 after 3 games for the Quetta Gladiators in this PSL.

Wonder how he will fare in the remainder of the competition?
 
Haroon786 said:
Shezhad currently averages 14 after 3 games for the Quetta Gladiators in this PSL.

Wonder how he will fare in the remainder of the competition?
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he was looking in good nick. Both Kamran and Shahzad were piling up runs in domestic
 
Haroon786 said:
Shezhad currently averages 14 after 3 games for the Quetta Gladiators in this PSL.

Wonder how he will fare in the remainder of the competition?
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tbh he was good today, I'd take his 26 off 15 over Shafiq's 45 off 42 any day
 
Today he showed intent to rotate the strike, even when the ball was inside the circle he was trying to get a single. Early to call but he may have actually worked in his game this time. Fingers crossed
 
Like his new way of playing. Much better than Hafeez. Was looking to get singles, run hard, go for his shots and play quickly. Wouldn't mind giving him another chance. At least he isn't a fixer.
 
Ahmed Shehzad is the maverick we need

Let this man be dictated by his free spirit. Enough of this maturity nonsense, he doesn't need to.
 
I hold a different opinion.

If you watch his innings in the PSL closely you would notice that he always starts off VERY slow. Most innings he has a score of 15(20) or worse. Then as soon as the spinners come on he start smacking them around and has one or two big overs against spinners and brings his SR to the 120 range. Where it stays for the rest of his innings.

The problem is international cricket he gets out after the initial tuk tuk of 15(20) and never gets a chance to 'accelerate' against the spinners.


Play him tomorrow against an international side and you would be calling for him head after the match.
 
Sorry, I don't think he is good enough to be a maverick. Can not rotate strike, and stroke play is limited. He can't hit himself out of situations.

Just not good enough. Bringing him back will be a huge step backward.
 
We're going to see the same old Shehzad when he returns to the international level but I guess it's inevitable now that he'll be back and we come around full circle.
 
He will get bogged down against good International sides. He won't be feasting on Spin when he plays for Pakistan
 
Not good enough. Had a better PSL than this last time but failed in international cricket. Forget about letting him play his natural game as you mention. The guys natural game is rubbish. He's gonna fail badly in the champions trophy. Remember this post
 
International sides have worked this guy out. Limited player. Has done nothing in this PSL too
 
Syed1 said:
I hold a different opinion.

If you watch his innings in the PSL closely you would notice that he always starts off VERY slow. Most innings he has a score of 15(20) or worse. Then as soon as the spinners come on he start smacking them around and has one or two big overs against spinners and brings his SR to the 120 range. Where it stays for the rest of his innings.

The problem is international cricket he gets out after the initial tuk tuk of 15(20) and never gets a chance to 'accelerate' against the spinners.


Play him tomorrow against an international side and you would be calling for him head after the match.
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Some people have tremendous talent in finding flaws out of no where, congratulation for possessing one.
 
I'm sorry but an innings of 59 from 51 balls when you are chasing 160+ isn't good enough. I do want him back in the test team but I'm not sure about LOIs.
 
The maverick scored 19 runs in his last 21 balls that kept IU in the hunt who eventually won the game :shakib
 
Played a match losing knock today like he often does for Pakistan. Has played 2 slow knocks in the PSL now and failed in the rest
 
moghul said:
Some people have tremendous talent in finding flaws out of no where, congratulation for possessing one.
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Congratulations for not having the comprehension skills to read a post and understand it.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Played a match losing knock today like he often does for Pakistan. Has played 2 slow knocks in the PSL now and failed in the rest
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It was a brilliant innings yet again and he got out with Quetta needing 16 runs off 18 deliveries, how's that a match losing knock? Yesterday his team did win because of his brilliance.
 
SaadAliG said:
It was a brilliant innings yet again and he got out with Quetta needing 16 runs off 18 deliveries, how's that a match losing knock? Yesterday his team did win because of his brilliance.
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What brilliance? Even Shafiq played better ban him that day. This guy is the king of soft runs against bad bowlers
 
Lost QG the match today. :))) :))) :)))

Now, INZI will only think: ZOMG!! Shehzad scored a fiftyyyy!1111111111

LET'S GET HIM INTO THE TEAM. Two consecutive fifties, MY WORD!
 
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