Ahmed Shehzad [The Mega Discussion Thread]

[Square Drive]

The fact that he actually has a decent technique when compared to any other opener we have (including Sarfraz), I'll gladly have him, assuming he can play similarly to the way he played today.

Need an opener who can put a prize on his wicket.

 

[ChachaCricket]

The fact that he actually has a decent technique when compared to any other opener we have (including Sarfraz), I'll gladly have him, assuming he can play similarly to the way he played today.

Need an opener who can put a prize on his wicket.

Need the exact opposite in T20s.

 

[The_KING]

Good innings today. Gave us a good start which is key in T20. Unfortunately the rest of our batsmen barring Afridi did nothing and cost us the match.

 

[ChachaCricket]

We have Rafatullah/Mukhtar/*insert hack opener* as well as Maqsood, Umar, Afridi, Anwar, Sarfraz for that.

When you bat 10 deep, there is no need to put a prize on your wicket, especially the openers. There are only 20 overs, every single ball should be attacked for a single, double or boundary. Defending the ball should be forbidden.

 

[Suleiman]

See my problem with this Shehzad is that he wants to be a Misbah with his tuk tuk but also wants to be an Afridi with boom boom.

You have to pick one or the other, son. You can't have both.

When your parents ask you what you want to be when you grow up, do you say "I want to be a doctor and engineer"? No. You choose one, can't have both, idiot.

Personally, if I were him, I'd choose to be an Afridi like he tried to do today. People will still love you even when you begin to suck, unlike Misbah, whose haters come out of the woodworks when things go wrong.

He tried to play an Afridi innings with his 28, but doesn't have the muscle power of Afridi yet. Okay effort though. Overall I rate 6.5/10.

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

He tried to play an Afridi innings with his 28, but doesn't have the muscle power of Afridi yet. Okay effort though. Overall I rate 6.5/10.

LOL. Seems like you didnt learn scaling in your high school. The highest run scorer gets 10/10 because he is maximum. Scaling is relative not absolute. That is the whole purpose of it.

Okay effort? Blasting your team to 51/0 in first five overs an okay effort? Wow. Lost for words.

 

[Suleiman]

LOL. Seems like you didnt learn scaling in your high school. The highest run scorer gets 10/10 because he is maximum. Scaling is relative not absolute. That is the whole purpose of it.

Okay effort? Blasting your team to 51/0 in first five overs an okay effort? Wow. Lost for words.

In comparison to Afridi it is a 2/10 performance, I was feeling generous. To have a true 10/10 performance you need jazba-e-junoon like Afridi. Everything you do at the crease has aggression. Shehzad is still too defensive. Needs to loosen up a little. Maybe do some yoga, idk.

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

In comparison to Afridi it is a 2/10 performance, I was feeling generous. To have a true 10/10 performance you need jazba-e-junoon like Afridi. Everything you do at the crease has aggression. Shehzad is still too defensive. Needs to loosen up a little. Maybe do some yoga, idk.

No words for this post.

 

[Haroon786]

It was a good innings yesterday but this seems honestly, a rarity and not a common trend.

I don't think anyone would criticise Shezhad if he manged to do this regularly.

However, I also think it's sad that Shezhad's sole fan boy on this forum is chest beating over an innings that will be forgotten very soon - is that how low Shezhad's stock has fallen ?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Please watch a video clip on s politics website.

Where what His ex coach is saying about him. Ejaz ahmed has given opinion about him.

I don't think anybody can save and upload here.

But all Paper's must watch it. It's a 2 min clip hardly.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

[MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION]

Can you post that video of ejaz ahmed here ? Where a female sports anchor is asking him question about ahmed Shehzad's health and his pictures being circulated being on the bed in the morning in hospital and then playing ? Ejaz shared his views as his coach in under 19 cricket.

It's a 48 second clip but very interesting

 

[#GreenRoars]

[MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION]

Can you post that video of ejaz ahmed here ? Where a female sports anchor is asking him question about ahmed Shehzad's health and his pictures being circulated being on the bed in the morning in hospital and then playing ? Ejaz shared his views as his coach in under 19 cricket.

It's a 48 second clip but very interesting

here : https://stayconnecting.com/52709-2/

 

[ChachaCricket]

See my problem with this Shehzad is that he wants to be a Misbah with his tuk tuk but also wants to be an Afridi with boom boom.

You have to pick one or the other, son. You can't have both.

When your parents ask you what you want to be when you grow up, do you say "I want to be a doctor and engineer"? No. You choose one, can't have both, idiot.

Personally, if I were him, I'd choose to be an Afridi like he tried to do today. People will still love you even when you begin to suck, unlike Misbah, whose haters come out of the woodworks when things go wrong.

He tried to play an Afridi innings with his 28, but doesn't have the muscle power of Afridi yet. Okay effort though. Overall I rate 6.5/10.

In comparison to Afridi it is a 2/10 performance, I was feeling generous. To have a true 10/10 performance you need jazba-e-junoon like Afridi. Everything you do at the crease has aggression. Shehzad is still too defensive. Needs to loosen up a little. Maybe do some yoga, idk.

) Lol, you're killing me. Hopefully you keep smoking whatever you're smoking. Don't change back.

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

) Lol, you're killing me. Hopefully you keep smoking whatever you're smoking. Don't change back.

I am trying to get hold of his dealer as well. )

 

[Fallen King]

Today is Suleiman day. There is no stopping him.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

See my problem with this Shehzad is that he wants to be a Misbah with his tuk tuk but also wants to be an Afridi with boom boom.

You have to pick one or the other, son. You can't have both.

When your parents ask you what you want to be when you grow up, do you say "I want to be a doctor and engineer"? No. You choose one, can't have both, idiot.

Personally, if I were him, I'd choose to be an Afridi like he tried to do today. People will still love you even when you begin to suck, unlike Misbah, whose haters come out of the woodworks when things go wrong.

He tried to play an Afridi innings with his 28, but doesn't have the muscle power of Afridi yet. Okay effort though. Overall I rate 6.5/10.

Dunno about Shezzy boy but Suleiman has smashed it outta the ground. )

 

[ask_analyse_act]

will he ever change... or should pak look beyond this (shehzad) fool who wants to be both like MISBAH & AFRIDI at the same time..

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Yes, sack them all, I say.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Yes, sack them all, I say.

Its good give up on players like shehzad and UA and back players like shafiq and maqsood.. If players willing to learn and improve via hardwork is better than these complaint and twitter superstar boys...

 

[umer187]

He will never be dropped from the T20 side. #lalaeffect

 

[ask_analyse_act]

He will never be dropped from the T20 side. #lalaeffect

#lalaeffect is coming to an end... Hope he is good enough to realize atleast this and improve his performance to secure his place...

 

[Belawal2014]

Whatchu gonna do when Salmanamania runs wild on you!

 

[Belawal2014]

Yes, sack them all, I say.

Need 8 more to play with the fixers, though, 7 if you include Danish Kaneria in tests.

 

[The_KING]

Lol this is one of my favourite threads on PP.

 

[Haroon786]

Amidst the background of Pakistan's win over NZ in the first T20I there were certain players who failed; the one player relevant to this thread is Shezhad and in typical manner, he provided Pakistan with another slow start and then proceeded to get out for another low score.

Should be dropped for someone who can play T20.

 

[Haroon786]

Lol this is one of my favourite threads on PP.

Would've been even better if the original thread title was still intact.

 

[cricfan14]

Amidst the background of Pakistan's win over NZ in the first T20I there were certain players who failed; the one player relevant to this thread is Shezhad and in typical manner, he provided Pakistan with another slow start and then proceeded to get out for another low score.

Should be dropped for someone who can play T20.

He'll never be dropped. It's a moot point. At this point we just have to expect 1/2 of an opening team to give us a mediocre beginning and hope that he will occasionally exceed expectations when it matters.

 

[Haroon786]

He'll never be dropped. It's a moot point. At this point we just have to expect 1/2 of an opening team to give us a mediocre beginning and hope that he will occasionally exceed expectations when it matters.

The concept of openers in T20s should be dropped - pretty much every batsman should be explosive and able to score 35 (16).

As long as Afridi is captain he won't be dropped but Afridi's time is nearly over and afterwards, he won't be getting a free ride in any format.

 

[pacefan]

What is the question about was what I wrote.

[MENTION=134473]Haroon786[/MENTION] who is your replacement ??? If not Ahmad than who?

 

[ChachaCricket]

Never hated a cricket player more.

 

[pacefan]

Never hated a cricket player more.

Hehe personal likes and dislikes ) the history of Pakistan Cricket!

 

[pacefan]

) seriously everyone is talking about replacing but do you have any proper replacement and not another rookie like Shehzad how we made him an star 6 years ago!
[MENTION=139353]ChachaCricket[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=134473]Haroon786[/MENTION]

 

[Haroon786]

[MENTION=134473]Haroon786[/MENTION] who is your replacement ??? If not Ahmad than who?

Nauman Anwar.

 

[pacefan]

Nauman Anwar.

Hehe How old are you sir? I really respect your opinion but do you know how several posters portrayed Shehzad few years ago?

 

[WC-Passion]

Nauman Anwar.

I would give Sami Aslam chances over him

 

[pacefan]

I would give Sami Aslam chances over him

He seems a good player but let the guy play some domestic and some county cricket say for 2,3 years let him mature only then induct him; please stop inducting rookies in the team its bad for their career!

 

[WC-Passion]

He seems a good player but let the guy play some domestic and some county cricket say for 2,3 years let him mature only then induct him; please stop inducting rookies in the team its bad for their career!

He got a good start in ODIs and was dropped due to test match performances

 

[pacefan]

He got a good start in ODIs and was dropped due to test match performances

But he is still a kid 21 and trust me there will be a bad patch and If he is in the team at that moment he is going to ruin his career because he wouldn't know how to cope up with it and bear in mind the extra pressure of our media and our jahil impatient awaam, but on the same time when such players get some experience in domestic and county and whatever cricket they'll know how to cope up with their flaws when there are extra pressures [MENTION=134473]Haroon786[/MENTION] same goes for Nauman Anwar!

 

[Haroon786]

Hehe How old are you sir? I really respect your opinion but do you know how several posters portrayed Shehzad few years ago?

Well they were wrong.

 

[pacefan]

Well they were wrong.

Exactly! Check my other comments!

 

[Anfield]

Shehzad is in the team just because of Afridi. At the moment he doesn't warrant a place in T20s.

 

[WC-Passion]

But he is still a kid 21 and trust me there will be a bad patch and If he is in the team at that moment he is going to ruin his career because he wouldn't know how to cope up with it and bear in mind the extra pressure of our media and our jahil impatient awaam, but on the same time when such players get some experience in domestic and county and whatever cricket they'll know how to cope up with their flaws when there are extra pressures [MENTION=134473]Haroon786[/MENTION] same goes for Nauman Anwar!

Babar Azam is around the same age and he's coping perfectly.

 

[pacefan]

Well they were wrong.

And What you're saying about Nauman Anwar let the guy play some domestic first let him get some experience and then If he is capable then try to induct him in the team as Shehzad's replacement!

 

[Haroon786]

I would give Sami Aslam chances over him

That's down to personal opinion.

 

[Haroon786]

And What you're saying about Nauman Anwar let the guy play some domestic first let him get some experience and then If he is capable then try to induct him in the team as Shehzad's replacement!

It doesn't necessarily have to be Nauman either, someone like Sharjeel Khan is a much better alternative in T20s.

 

[pacefan]

Babar Azam is around the same age and he's coping perfectly.

Hehe I know this was coming Babar is an exceptional talent but still he is great because he's been around! He first showed up on upper level when he was barely 15 have tons of local experience and belong to a Cricket family, but on the same time he is definitely going to be in a bad patch and do you not think how our jahil impatient awaam is going to behave?? There will be tons of people will be against him just they are against Shehzad and Akmal right now! This is plainly our fault we make them stars when they are barely 20 and when they are having troubles due to countless reasons we try to replace them with another rookie and repeat the same process again and again!

 

[WC-Passion]

Hehe I know this was coming Babar is an exceptional talent but still he is great because he's been around! He first showed up on upper level when he was barely 15 have tons of local experience and belong to a Cricket family, but on the same time he is definitely going to be in a bad patch and do you not think how our jahil impatient awaam is going to behave?? There will be tons of people will be against him just they are against Shehzad and Akmal right now! This is plainly our fault we make them stars when they are barely 20 and when they are having troubles due to countless reasons we try to replace them with another rookie and repeat the same process again and again!

I don't really understand what your point is on Babar. Are you saying that he was introduced too early?

 

[WC-Passion]

That's down to personal opinion.

Yeah that's correct.

 

[pacefan]

It doesn't necessarily have to be Nauman either, someone like Sharjeel Khan is a much better alternative in T20s.

Hehe sir are you sure about Sharjeel khan? The thing is khair you mentioned Sharjeel he was one of my favourite players when he performed first but he is a brainless hitter just like Imran Nazeer so in some he might click and in some he might not! I would've loved to see him in the team if he had a little sense. T20 cricket no doubt is about high strike rates but at the same time you need some sense as well try to look at foreign teams and try to look and understand how their players play we all like to have ABD's in our team but have you seen his technique and composure and when and how he is hitting those? So if any player who can hit some isn't what we should try to look for.

 

[pacefan]

I don't really understand what your point is on Babar. Are you saying that he was introduced too early?

I am saying he's an exceptional talent but its not like he is not going to be in a bad patch and what will the same jahil awam do? If he is unable to perform say max in 2 series you'll be seeing the same threads and discussions about him!

 

[WC-Passion]

I am saying he's an exceptional talent but its not like he is not going to be in a bad patch and what will the same jahil awam do? If he is unable to perform say max in 2 series you'll be seeing the same threads and discussions about him!

Yeah, PP is full of knee-jerk threads, both positive and negative. Wrist Slitters and Hype Machines are active.

 

[pacefan]

Yeah, PP is full of knee-jerk threads, both positive and negative. Wrist Slitters and Hype Machines are active.

Its in our nature as a nation we are very impatient and judgmental Pak cricket will suffer as long as our players and awam are illiterate!

 

[WC-Passion]

Its in our nature as a nation we are very impatient and judgmental Pak cricket will suffer as long as our players and awam are illiterate!

Yeah and the sad list of "ignored and forgotten players" will continue to grow...

 

[pacefan]

Yeah and the sad list of "ignored and forgotten players" will continue to grow...

Exactly so back to Shehzad well He shouldn't be in the team in the first place when he was just a rookie and If we have done that stupid mistake so now its better to work with him and try to groom him and give him experience and responsibilities and give him a long run for few series continuously and try to prepare his replacement in the meantime and if still Shehzad is unable to change and work on his flaws there will be no choice but to kick him off as we'll have his proper replacement but not another hack!!

 

[pacefan]

Exactly so back to Shehzad well He shouldn't be in the team in the first place when he was just a rookie and If we have done that stupid mistake so now its better to work with him and try to groom him and give him experience and responsibilities and give him a long run for few series continuously and try to prepare his replacement in the meantime and if still Shehzad is unable to change and work on his flaws there will be no choice but to kick him off as we'll have his proper replacement but not another hack!!

Hehe sir are you sure about Sharjeel khan? The thing is khair you mentioned Sharjeel he was one of my favourite players when he performed first but he is a brainless hitter just like Imran Nazeer so in some he might click and in some he might not! I would've loved to see him in the team if he had a little sense. T20 cricket no doubt is about high strike rates but at the same time you need some sense as well try to look at foreign teams and try to look and understand how their players play we all like to have ABD's in our team but have you seen his technique and composure and when and how he is hitting those? So if any player who can hit some isn't what we should try to look for.

It doesn't necessarily have to be Nauman either, someone like Sharjeel Khan is a much better alternative in T20s.

And What you're saying about Nauman Anwar let the guy play some domestic first let him get some experience and then If he is capable then try to induct him in the team as Shehzad's replacement!

But he is still a kid 21 and trust me there will be a bad patch and If he is in the team at that moment he is going to ruin his career because he wouldn't know how to cope up with it and bear in mind the extra pressure of our media and our jahil impatient awaam, but on the same time when such players get some experience in domestic and county and whatever cricket they'll know how to cope up with their flaws when there are extra pressures [MENTION=134473]Haroon786[/MENTION] same goes for Nauman Anwar!

) seriously everyone is talking about replacing but do you have any proper replacement and not another rookie like Shehzad how we made him an star 6 years ago!
[MENTION=139353]ChachaCricket[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=134473]Haroon786[/MENTION]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] any comments, I haven't seen your stance on Shehzad and his replacements!

 

[WC-Passion]

Exactly so back to Shehzad well He shouldn't be in the team in the first place when he was just a rookie and If we have done that stupid mistake so now its better to work with him and try to groom him and give him experience and responsibilities and give him a long run for few series continuously and try to prepare his replacement in the meantime and if still Shehzad is unable to change and work on his flaws there will be no choice but to kick him off as we'll have his proper replacement but not another hack!!

I think he's had so much time already to change his ways but even though he has admitted that he has SR/rotation problems he doesn't do anything about it.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] any comments, I haven't seen your stance on Shehzad and his replacements!

Not sure what he's said on replacements, but he definitely is not a supporter of Shehzad, look back on the first 3-4 pages of this thread.

 

[Hawkeye]

When will we get rid of this rubbish mediocrity?

It's been more than 100 FRIGGIN international matches.

This mediocrity has gotten the highest number of chances in PAK's history.

 

[Saj]

When will we get rid of this rubbish mediocrity?

It's been more than 100 FRIGGIN international matches.

This mediocrity has gotten the highest number of chances in PAK's history.

Steady on you'll start being called a hater

Ahmed Shehzad T20Is in the last 6 months:
7, 17, 7, 28, 4, 16 & 9.
Innings 7
Runs 88
Average 12.57

 

[Pete Rose]

Steady on you'll start being called a hater

Ahmed Shehzad T20Is in the last 6 months:
7, 17, 7, 28, 4, 16 & 9.
Innings 7
Runs 88
Average 12.57

I expect the strike rate to be particularly damning as well.

 

[Hawkeye]

Steady on you'll start being called a hater

Already tagged as one by certain quarters.

 

[hadi123]

Can we drop him already

 

[Abdullah719]

Steady on you'll start being called a hater

Ahmed Shehzad T20Is in the last 6 months:
7, 17, 7, 28, 4, 16 & 9.
Innings 7
Runs 88
Average 12.57

But but but who will replace him?

 

[Mamoon]

His whole career has been a tale of mediocrity barring a decent purple patch in 2013/14. Simply not good enough for this level and Kohli should be embarrassed that he bears physical resemblance with him.

 

[Hawkeye]

Can we drop him already

No.

Ain't going anywhere until he loses us the 3rd World Cup at least.

2011, 2015, 2016. Was he there in 2014? Make that 4.

 

[WC-Passion]

The fact that he failed in tests against Sri Lanka makes it even worse for him, as before he had a good spot in tests to fall back on, but now he doesn't merit selection in the test XI and neither does he merit selection in T20's and ODI's.

 

[Slog]

But but but who will replace him?

Literally anyone

 

[shortbread]

Shezad's job is to keep Afridi happy, and going by the number of chances he gets, seems to be doing his job well.

After the NZ innings he walks upto Guptill looking impressed and keeps saying stuff, Guptill just shrugs the guy off. Did he even realise the team just lost a game?!

Shezad lives in this bubble where he is a living ATG, on top of it he's immature, a drama queen and not exactly the most disciplined either.

But to the question 'can he continue to hold his place?', well only Afridi can judge his performance in those quarters!

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Naa we need him. His straight to the fielder shots are too stylish

 

[Pete Rose]

his position in the team is becoming untenable by the day.

 

[Slog]

Naa we need him. His straight to the fielder shots are too stylish

He's struggling with even those these days

 

[aukhan]

It's criminal that he is in every playing 11. On merit he should be dropped but due to his relations with our T20 Captain one should expect him to remain part of the team until the world cup is over. His batting in world cups since his under 19 days has been abysmal so our chances to succeed remains slim with his presence.

 

[Haroon786]

[MENTION=140018]Relapse[/MENTION], your opinion on Shezhad ?

 

[WC-Passion]

@11ShadyBrothers, your opinion on Shezhad ?

Huh? Isn't his opinion on Shehzad pretty obvious?

 

[WC-Passion]

But but but who will replace him?

I would literally take Umar Akmal over him in ODI's, in T20's Nauman Anwar I guess. In tests I'd give him one more series.

 

[Haroon786]

Huh? Isn't his opinion on Shehzad pretty obvious?

I doubt it's him because he would've made an appearance on this thread by now.

 

[WC-Passion]

I doubt it's him because he would've made an appearance on this thread by now.

Just read his other posts, it's obvious.

Liking for Shehzad and Afridi, dislikes Sharjeel and Maqsood, somewhat neutral on Umar and doesn't appreciate Shafiq.

I know him well tbh.

 

[Haroon786]

Just read his other posts, it's obvious.

Liking for Shehzad and Afridi, dislikes Sharjeel and Maqsood, somewhat neutral on Umar and doesn't appreciate Shafiq.

I know him well tbh.

Don't care TBH.

There are far more more important th I ngs to discuss on here than Shezhad.

 

[WC-Passion]

Don't care TBH.

There are far more more important th I ngs to discuss on here than Shezhad.

Just pointing it out. Anyway, about Shehzad. He really should be out of the ODI and test lineups to reduce the damage...

 

[Slog]

I doubt it's him because he would've made an appearance on this thread by now.

even Shehzad fins it hard to defend himself these days going by the reduction in twitter activity

 

[Haroon786]

even Shehzad fins it hard to defend himself these days going by the reduction in twitter activity

Lol.

With or without Shezhad, I don't think results would be much different for some reason.