Varun
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Rahane should bat faster in ODI cricket. His SR of 73 puts pressure on Raina and Dhoni coming in later on.
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Like I said before, Rahane should open in ODIs. Not suited to the middle order.
What a pure and beautiful batsman, Shehzad is simply not in his class.
Yeah. I too have been saying it for a long time.
The moment Rohit was injured, I knew the time for Rahane had arrived (felt bad for Rohit but happy for Rahane).
Still the No 4 problem hasn't been solved. Dunno what we are going to do about that.
Still remember a back from cancer Yuvraj owning Shehzad.Still remember Irfan owning him.
Still remember Irfan owning him.
Rahane Vs Shehzad is debatable today, but in 2 year's time, I expect Rahane to race ahead.
it is not even debatable my friend....Rahane wins easily
well in stats shehzad is ahead
that is why you don't blindly follow stats....and stats only say that in odis...in test matches it is not even a comparison
that is why you don't blindly follow stats....and stats only say that in odis...in test matches it is not even a comparison
although I'm a big big fan of rahane but I still think shehzad ll improve he's just 22 n rahane is 26
lol where have you been...this is both test match and odi comparison thread...and rahane will better in both..he hasn't got a fair run at the top like shehzad cause of so many batting rockstars in the team...he will be top odi player by next yeaWho said that Shehzad is better in tests? He is in ODI's though and looking at the 4 year age difference, still has plenty of time to make up the differences and weakness' in his technique.
lol...."age" in pakistan team should'nt be taken at face value
I'm confused when rohit returns where will rahane go n wt will they do with rayudu
You said he's a better test batsmen, of which no one really seems to be arguing, but fine, if they said it, they don't know what they're talking about.lol where have you been...this is both test match and odi comparison thread...and rahane will better in both..he hasn't got a fair run at the top like shehzad cause of so many batting rockstars in the team...he will be top odi player by next yea
rayudu is a nobody and should/will be dropped
You said he's a better test batsmen, of which no one really seems to be arguing, but fine, if they said it, they don't know what they're talking about.
Doubt that regarding ODI's hindsight is a **** though.
Talent and performance are two totally different things.
People go for Umar talking about how he has talent but not the performance (which I argue is wrong anyways but for arguments sake lets keep it there. I won't laud a player for 2-3 good matches, and chastize him for 2-3 bad ones because even the greats have had stretches of upwards of 5-10 matches where they didn't perform or they were extremely good.
You are never as good as when you are playing extremely well, and you are never as bad when you are playing extremely poorly. This is why you look at the entire picture and the ebbs and flows of a career.
nope rayudu hasn't impressed me one bit...batting strike rate less than 70 and his list a record aren't great eitherrayudu is one of the unluckiest cricketers he deserved his debut at 18 but got it at 28
he ll be India's better no 4 batsmen
rohit is nothing
nope rayudu hasn't impressed me one bit...batting strike rate less than 70 and his list a record aren't great either
but he has performed in the given chances
the target was so small he could milk his way at strike rate of 70 but when better teams come and the target is 300+ he will be a liability
Rahane has a better SR than Shehzad in ODIs.
the target was so small he could milk his way at strike rate of 70 but when better teams come and the target is 300+ he will be a liability
cause no matter how bad rohit is he is still better than rayudu....rohit can bully teams on a flat track....rayudu is our version of misbah and shehzad...he will score but at a pathetic strike rate ...look at his list A record...if you have to drop rohit then drop rayudu too and play someone better like karun nair , sanju samson or other guys who performed on australia A tour...rayudu wouldn't chase 300+ even in his dreamsRahane hasn't played on those flat pancakes of India yet. He has been on tough overseas tours with the team where the entire team has struggled. But if you take out that one ODI series against Australia where everyone was scoring hundreds for fun...Rohit has been pretty mediocre himself in ODI's especially away from home.
In 15 games (All away from home) - Rayudu has scored 325 runs at 40.92 and at a SR of 69
In 17 away games Rohit has scored 469 runs at 31.26 at a SR of 64.20..
Now tell me why should Rohit play ahead of Rayudu? The guy for all the chances he has received bats poorly when playing overseas but keeps on getting chances. The other guy after so many years of struggle gets a chance to play for India but gets hammered for scoring slow when he has played only 15 games while the other has played 124 games for a mediocre ODI career.
He is a much batter allround batsman. Why Rahane has not performed in ODIs is a mystery to me. He should be averaging 40+ as an opener in ODIs.
cause no matter how bad rohit is he is still better than rayudu....rohit can bully teams on a flat track....rayudu is our version of misbah and shehzad...he will score but at a pathetic strike rate ...look at his list A record...if you have to drop rohit then drop rayudu too and play someone better like karun nair , sanju samson or other guys who performed on australia A tour...rayudu wouldn't chase 300+ even in his dreams
List A SR's are not available to compare. Their List A averages are the same (Rayudu 36.47 and Rohit 36.93). So I don't know how you came to conclusion that Rohit is way better. We don't know if Rayudu can hammer on flat decks as he hasn't played on one yet.The world cup is in Australia where I am sure Rohit will be a sitting duck. I don't know what you are talking about as I have not seen Karun Nair or Sanju Samson play for India yet against international teams in international games so I am not sure if they are better than Rayudu or Rohit. I don't care who plays...Rohit should not be in the team unless he plays at the top of the order. If we are not playing him in the top of the order, I will rather prefer, Tiwary or Rayudu in the middle. At least Rayudu can hold an end up in Australia if we lose quick wickets. I don't have that confidence with Rohit in the middle. Rohit I am sure will play across the line or loft it straight to a fielder leaving India in further trouble.
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These are the stats from Australia A tour earlier this year...anyone is better than Rayudu
6th column is Average and 8th is strike rate
List A SR's are not available to compare. Their List A averages are the same (Rayudu 36.47 and Rohit 36.93). So I don't know how you came to conclusion that Rohit is way better. We don't know if Rayudu can hammer on flat decks as he hasn't played on one yet.The world cup is in Australia where I am sure Rohit will be a sitting duck. I don't know what you are talking about as I have not seen Karun Nair or Sanju Samson play for India yet against international teams in international games so I am not sure if they are better than Rayudu or Rohit. I don't care who plays...Rohit should not be in the team unless he plays at the top of the order. If we are not playing him in the top of the order, I will rather prefer, Tiwary or Rayudu in the middle. At least Rayudu can hold an end up in Australia if we lose quick wickets. I don't have that confidence with Rohit in the middle. Rohit I am sure will play across the line or loft it straight to a fielder leaving India in further trouble.
lol...did you see the players...most players in both teams have international experience and I am not making a case for rohit...but any tom, dick and harry is better than rayudu , we need jadhav or samson insteadIt is not international game is it? you don't need all batsmen to attack and score at 100 SR...that will not have the stability. I am okay with Rayudu being dropped but I am not okay with Rohit in the middle order. He is not good enough to play in the middle order and he is not reliable. If we need to try young players we need to play them ASAP. If we don't play them now, we cannot play any of them in that list in the World Cup. We need to make it work with people who has played over the last few years.
lol...did you see the players...most players in both teams have international experience and I am not making a case for rohit...but any tom, dick and harry is better than rayudu , we need jadhav or samson instead
Sure I am okay with Jadhav or Samson playing now....Just don't want Rohit to play in the middle order. The guy has played 124 games being mediocre in ODI's...No other Indian player has received so many chances being mediocre in the last 10 years or so. He needs to dropped if he is not going to open. Play anybody, well play Yusuf Pathan in the middle if we want a player to slog and get out at least he will score quick.
Domestic/A team records doesn't mean anything especially in India.
those stats are from australia A tour...India A toured Australia genius
Domestic/A team records doesn't mean anything especially in India.
Please look at his stats away from home as Australia is not in India. Except for that one home series against Australia...Please look at his average and SR..It is extremely poor. Since Jan 2013 (I am taking Jan 2013 because he did make a comeback to the ODI side as a opener in 2013) he averages 31.26 with a SR of 64 overseas. Not really stats of a world beater. You can big up his home exploits but it is not going to help him in anyways when playing in Australia. Please look at his SR's other than that one home series...He is barely touching 70's....You said that Rayudu is capable of scoring runs but is slow and now you claim Rohit has been brilliant. He has been equally poor..Just remove that one series and tell me what his SR was over the last two years. I don't want to consider that series as James Faulkner was smashing every India bowler for fun in that series.
Domestic/A team records doesn't mean anything especially in India.
Rahane hasn't got a chance in odis...this is the first year where he is a regular in the team.....rahane has all the class and ability to be the top odi player.....you haven't followed his career it seems...he was always a replacement guy in the team filling in as an opener or middle order bat for injured players thus only playing 1 or 2 matches at a time ....the class and ability he has just shows he will dominate this format
Then you haven't followed Shehzad either because this is also his first year where he is a regular.
Rahane has 30+ ODIs (not a small sample size) and you're right now talking about him right after his century and saying this stuff. I guess the career will speak for itself.
read my previous post ...i have been saying this from the time i joined this forum
Another plus: Rahane doesn't blab about nonsense to opposition players.
Everything against Tsotsobe the legend. Very impressive.This one is for those saying Shehzad isn't classy or hasn't got the big shots.
Watch this video from 9:03
http://cricketcrowd.com/displayvide...+Tahir+throttle+Pakistan:+3rd+ODI+(Abu+Dhabi)
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]
Everything against Tsotsobe the legend. Very impressive.
This one is for those saying Shehzad isn't classy or hasn't got the big shots.
Watch this video from 9:03
http://cricketcrowd.com/displayvide...+Tahir+throttle+Pakistan:+3rd+ODI+(Abu+Dhabi)
Tsotsobe was the number 1 ODI bowler in the world not long back.
Ye, as if rankings in ODI's matter. He was bowling pies in that match. Anyways, Shehzad is not a natural stroke maker but once he gets his eye in, he can play some shots.
Pakistan has a habit of making promising youngsters go awry after a while. May be a cultural thing or dressing room company (Afridi)
Taufeeq Umar, Umar Akmal and now Shezad. The list is very long....
Most of them are mentally weak because they haven't been through a tough domestic system. There are way too many teams in our domestic cricket.
nope rayudu hasn't impressed me one bit...batting strike rate less than 70 and his list a record aren't great either
so what do u say abt rayudu now ?
what did he do?...a 50 at 80 strike rate chasing 300...like i said he is our misbah/shezad..can't chase big totals