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Ahmed Shehzad's selfish batting is stretching the goodwill of Pakistan fans!

PAK fans watching his innings right now.

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Who's been the only Pak batsman in 3 games to hit Morne Morkel for 4 with an actual cricket shot. Edges, Slashes and hoicks don't count.

And no, its not the current Pakistan batsman allegedly better than Virat Kohli. Its the opposite. :yk2 Too bad he's still an self-obsessed tool.
 
There was a time once everybody wanted Ahmed Shehzad in the team around 2010 and now after few bad performances over tge last year or so everybody started to bash him without realizing that he is just 25 and can still improve a lot.

I dont mind people who want or wanted Sahibzada Farhan in place of him but I am rather aftraid that same people are going to bash Farhan after year or two if his performance decline even a bit.
 
Shehzad scoring big is always bad for the team. Him getting out early not only increase so chances of winning a game but also a tournament. Case in point : CT 17
 
Shehzad scoring big is always bad for the team. Him getting out early not only increase so chances of winning a game but also a tournament. Case in point : CT 17

True he should got out early so Pakistan would have struggled to get 160 in all 3 games this T20 series. Great logic
 
I dont remember last time Pakistani batsman hitting three sixes in a row.
 
What a selfish run out. He should've relaxed instead of running himself out and worried more about his 100 then getting a stupid single for the team. What a selfish idiot
 
What a selfish match loser

Shehzad scoring big is always bad for the team. Him getting out early not only increase so chances of winning a game but also a tournament. Case in point : CT 17

Yes Shehzads fault that Fakhar struggled and slowed things down in the powerplays when he was going at strike rate of 200.

True he should got out early so Pakistan would have struggled to get 160 in all 3 games this T20 series. Great logic

What a selfish run out. He should've relaxed instead of running himself out and worried more about his 100 then getting a stupid single for the team. What a selfish idiot

go easy with your ownage shak

ali asad is fuming at the moment :))
 
go easy with your ownage shak

ali asad is fuming at the moment :))

Na. Don't really care. Shehzad fans actually deserve some respite after years of torture and ownage from normal cricket viewers. I'm actually happy for you guys
 


Na. Don't really care. Shehzad fans actually deserve some respite after years of torture and ownage from normal cricket viewers. I'm actually happy for you guys

i am not even a shehzad fan :))

but i have the sense to appreciate a batsman who has scored 89 in a t20 innings because i am not a bitter little hater who takes himself far too seriously

of course you care. your tears can been seen from behind your computer :))
 
go easy with your ownage shak

ali asad is fuming at the moment :))

Poor Shehzad haters are having panic attacks. Shehzad looked good all these 3 games was just about time he went on to get a big score. Watching Shehzad and Fakhar bat today you can tell a difference between a people batsmen and a hit and miss player. If Shehzad struggled like Fakhar did today their would been threads made calling for his head.
 
Poor Shehzad haters are having panic attacks. Shehzad looked good all these 3 games was just about time he went on to get a big score. Watching Shehzad and Fakhar bat today you can tell a difference between a people batsmen and a hit and miss player. If Shehzad struggled like Fakhar did today their would been threads made calling for his head.

agreed

shehzad has been poor for a while but he played a top knock today and was good in the second match too. deserves man of the series award.
 
but but but it will be bad for pakistan in the long run :))) :))) :livid:

you can't make it up...
 
Poor Shehzad haters are having panic attacks. Shehzad looked good all these 3 games was just about time he went on to get a big score. Watching Shehzad and Fakhar bat today you can tell a difference between a people batsmen and a hit and miss player. If Shehzad struggled like Fakhar did today their would been threads made calling for his head.

Do Shehzad fans like you even have any shame? On the match thread you wanted Fakhar to be replaced by this mediocre batsman. Fakhar won us the champions trophy and has looked excellent so far. He is 5 times the batsman Shehzad is. Only these shameless Shehzad fans will even compare their hero to an actual aggressive, clutch batsman. But it's been obvious for years now that you lot don't even care a bit about the team, just like your hero.
 
I know this is like Eid for Shahzadians so Ill let them enjoy it but lets point out one fact

The fact that Shehzad despite hitting 3 sixes off 3 balls at the death ended up with a similar SR as Babar Azam TELLS YOU EVERYTHING

Obv hitting three sixes off 3 balls is a rare occassion for him (check his SR) so we cant bank on it always. So it shows that overall he played a slow innings whereas Babar kept the pace up throughout.
 
Came here to see his haters. I agree that he play slow at times, but he's the best non-ultra-aggressive opener we got out there.
 
He has always played for himself. I know he doesnt have the skills to be a LOI batsman, but he just doesnt try to hit big. Always tries to get to a score which keeps him in the team for the next match.

Today's innings was rare, because he has already cemented his place for the next series so he didnt care if he got out. This guy will lose us many important matches against top teams in the future.
 
Poor Shehzad haters are having panic attacks. Shehzad looked good all these 3 games was just about time he went on to get a big score. Watching Shehzad and Fakhar bat today you can tell a difference between a people batsmen and a hit and miss player. If Shehzad struggled like Fakhar did today their would been threads made calling for his head.

Do you understand cricket

Shehzad has been playing for EIGHT YEARS. So we know what he is about

Fakhar is a novice so obviosuly he will get a longer rope now. And besides he won us an ICC tournament already in his first attemp whereas Shehzad averages around 20 after several ICC tournaments
 
He has always played for himself. I know he doesnt have the skills to be a LOI batsman, but he just doesnt try to hit big. Always tries to get to a score which keeps him in the team for the next match.

Today's innings was rare, because he has already cemented his place for the next series so he didnt care if he got out. This guy will lose us many important matches against top teams in the future.

no it wasnt rare

till he got to 40-50 he was playing slow and had a pathetic SR.

Only when he got over that he started to hit boundaries because he knew he's done okay for his average by then
 
Do Shehzad fans like you even have any shame? On the match thread you wanted Fakhar to be replaced by this mediocre batsman. Fakhar won us the champions trophy and has looked excellent so far. He is 5 times the batsman Shehzad is. Only these shameless Shehzad fans will even compare their hero to an actual aggressive, clutch batsman. But it's been obvious for years now that you lot don't even care a bit about the team, just like your hero.

and yet you were calling fakhar a rubbish hack before the ct

just shows your nil cricketing acumen.
 
btw its really nice to see Shehzadians jumping with joy like little girls here. Eid has come early :))

I think we should appreciate his innings for now and let them enjoy it. This is a VERY rare occassion for them so let them have it.

No criticism from me on this thread!
 
and yet you were calling fakhar a rubbish hack before the ct

just shows your nil cricketing acumen.

I was. And I was wrong... but I've been right about Shehzad for years now and he hasn't disappointed me yet
 
no it wasnt rare

till he got to 40-50 he was playing slow and had a pathetic SR.

Only when he got over that he started to hit boundaries because he knew he's done okay for his average by then

and he was so selfish that he risked a tight single (and got run out) instead of playing for his hundred

you also forgot that he killed a few puppies along the way. easily the worst t20 innings ever.
 
btw its really nice to see Shehzadians jumping with joy like little girls here. Eid has come early :))

I think we should appreciate his innings for now and let them enjoy it. This is a VERY rare occassion for them so let them have it.

No criticism from me on this thread!

Yeah, let these guys have their fun. To them this is better than winning the champions trophy.
 
I was. And I was wrong... but I've been right about Shehzad for years now and he hasn't disappointed me yet

no one is saying that he will be a world beater

but you should appreciate when he plays well. downplaying good performances makes you a hater.
 
Poor Shehzad haters are having panic attacks. Shehzad looked good all these 3 games was just about time he went on to get a big score. Watching Shehzad and Fakhar bat today you can tell a difference between a people batsmen and a hit and miss player. If Shehzad struggled like Fakhar did today their would been threads made calling for his head.

Shehzad played well today but don't you think, you are overreacting a bit ? If someone goes by your post than they would think that Shehzad has just scored a century in an ICC final rather than a 89 in a T20 on a flat deck.

Taking nothing away from his knock though but one good inning doesn't discredit the people who find his batting too slow for modern day LOI.
 
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In the end the net effort of Shehzad was good. But like always he played for himself till he reached 60. Sorry but not good enough for me. Should put the team first.
 
and he was so selfish that he risked a tight single (and got run out) instead of playing for his hundred

you also forgot that he killed a few puppies along the way. easily the worst t20 innings ever.

dont get too emotional lol!

shehzadians and ther hyeprbole :facepalm:
 
I think Shahzad needs to score a 200 off 60 balls on a pitch in South Africa to change the minds of people who want to see him fail every time
 
Shehzad remains a mediocre batsman. He himself is to blame for missing out on a 100.
 
Do Shehzad fans like you even have any shame? On the match thread you wanted Fakhar to be replaced by this mediocre batsman. Fakhar won us the champions trophy and has looked excellent so far. He is 5 times the batsman Shehzad is. Only these shameless Shehzad fans will even compare their hero to an actual aggressive, clutch batsman. But it's been obvious for years now that you lot don't even care a bit about the team, just like your hero.

I didn't mention Fakhar should be replaced by Shehzad. These both should be opening for us in limited overs. Was just pointing out that if Shehzad struggled like Fakhar did today their would been threads made calling his head. It's more like people like you that don't care about team. It don't bother me who makes the runs or get the wickets as long as Pakistan win but people like you always hoping some players don't do well as you don't like them even if that costs the team. Instead of praising his innings today we seen the amount of hate he still got. Just a bad day for his haters today :-)
 
In the end the net effort of Shehzad was good. But like always he played for himself till he reached 60. Sorry but not good enough for me. Should put the team first.

Was you watching the powerplay he was going for his shots and if it wasn't because of him we would been less then 40 after 6 overs as Fakhar was struggling big times.
 
I didn't mention Fakhar should be replaced by Shehzad. These both should be opening for us in limited overs. Was just pointing out that if Shehzad struggled like Fakhar did today their would been threads made calling his head. It's more like people like you that don't care about team. It don't bother me who makes the runs or get the wickets as long as Pakistan win but people like you always hoping some players don't do well as you don't like them even if that costs the team. Instead of praising his innings today we seen the amount of hate he still got. Just a bad day for his haters today :-)

do you think Shehzad should be opening over Azhar in ODIs?
 
do you think Shehzad should be opening over Azhar in ODIs?

If he performs the way he has this series then no question he should. But at the moment I would stick with Azhar and Fakhar for Odis as it worked in the Champions Trophy but in the longer run I would say Shehzad should replace Azhar and open with Fakhar.
 
do you think Shehzad should be opening over Azhar in ODIs?

If he plays ODI cricket exactly the way he approached these T20s, there is no reason why he shouldnt be in the mix to open. If he becomes complacent knowing he has more time, sorry he shouldnt be playing
 
One of his biggest weaknesses in the past was his inability to rotate the strike and putting the other players under pressure to score. He clearly has adressed that aspect of his game. The way he dropped and ran throughout the series was for all to see
 
If he plays ODI cricket exactly the way he approached these T20s, there is no reason why he shouldnt be in the mix to open. If he becomes complacent knowing he has more time, sorry he shouldnt be playing

Yes but I dont think it will happen going by history and he will have to earn that chance. For me it will take more than just 2-3 perofrmances against a mediocre attack to prove that.

The fact is that he has been taking us for a ride for EIGHT years so the margin of error is low and so is the patience.

He has given such false hopes before as well. At his bet he is a serviceable decent opener which means that we arent losing out on some world class talent.

His major problem is that when he goes up against good attacks (which this WXI attack most certainly wasnt) he goes into a shell and just blocks and blocks. There is nothing to prove he has overcome that.

And only in this innings today did he rotate strike well and play at a good rate epsecially near the end.

In last match he wasnt as good and his SR was just 125. And in the match before that he had a poor SR of 114. He didnt play like this all series.
 
Man Shehzad has always had a knack of these knocks... him and Babar Azam both cashing in big time on flat tracks.. both are similar sort of batsmen. Both have had the time of their lives on these wickets.

Maybe their style of play is suited to domestic tracks I guess, they look a different quantity on these wickets
 
btw its really nice to see Shehzadians jumping with joy like little girls here. Eid has come early :))

I think we should appreciate his innings for now and let them enjoy it. This is a VERY rare occassion for them so let them have it.

No criticism from me on this thread!

He had a good series - even considering his slow knock in the first T20.

It is Fakhar who has been immensely disappointing this time...
 
Yes but I dont think it will happen going by history and he will have to earn that chance. For me it will take more than just 2-3 perofrmances against a mediocre attack to prove that.

The fact is that he has been taking us for a ride for EIGHT years so the margin of error is low and so is the patience.

He has given such false hopes before as well. At his bet he is a serviceable decent opener which means that we arent losing out on some world class talent.

His major problem is that when he goes up against good attacks (which this WXI attack most certainly wasnt) he goes into a shell and just blocks and blocks. There is nothing to prove he has overcome that.

And only in this innings today did he rotate strike well and play at a good rate epsecially near the end.

In last match he wasnt as good and his SR was just 125. And in the match before that he had a poor SR of 114. He didnt play like this all series.

I accept valid criticism but he played the same way as Babar in the 2nd and 3rd T20's. Babar even hit fewer boundaries at the same SR.

From that perspective - their output then why should Shehzad get the blame but not Babar?

In retrospect - both could have batted slightly faster during the middle overs but at the end of the day - both could agree they did a job well done.

It is Fakhar who has been very disappointing this series....
 
Man Shehzad has always had a knack of these knocks... him and Babar Azam both cashing in big time on flat tracks.. both are similar sort of batsmen. Both have had the time of their lives on these wickets.

Maybe their style of play is suited to domestic tracks I guess, they look a different quantity on these wickets

Babar Azam

In AUS: 56.40
In NZ: 72.50
In WI: 77.00

He's class in general.
 
Babar Azam

In AUS: 56.40
In NZ: 72.50
In WI: 77.00

He's class in general.

Shehzad has a 100 in NZ Babar has none, Babar's two games don't compare to Shehzad playing 2-3 series in NZ..

Don't think Shehzad ever played in Australia, I may be wrong...

Ofcourse bring in the WI stats from Babar because that is the only place he performed in recent times...
 
Shehzad has a 100 in NZ Babar has none, Babar's two games don't compare to Shehzad playing 2-3 series in NZ..

Don't think Shehzad ever played in Australia, I may be wrong...

Ofcourse bring in the WI stats from Babar because that is the only place he performed in recent times...
Shehzad has played and failed in Australia (only teams he scored against were Uae and Ireland )

I'm pretty sure his NZ record is average too
 
Shehzad has a 100 in NZ Babar has none, Babar's two games don't compare to Shehzad playing 2-3 series in NZ..

Don't think Shehzad ever played in Australia, I may be wrong...

Ofcourse bring in the WI stats from Babar because that is the only place he performed in recent times...

Shahzad

In AUS: 5.00
In NZ: 35.37

AND now for the funny stuff.

In WI: 25.61
In ZIM: 25.40

:))) :)))

What were you saying about WI?
 
Shehzad remains a mediocre batsman. He himself is to blame for missing out on a 100.

Agreed, in fact you don't even have to be a good batsman, nevermind a specialist one to succeed in this format. In the 50 over format, Shehzad will still struggle as he can't rotate the strike to save himself and has limited ability.
 
Agreed, in fact you don't even have to be a good batsman, nevermind a specialist one to succeed in this format. In the 50 over format, Shehzad will still struggle as he can't rotate the strike to save himself and has limited ability.

He is still 25 and can imrpove upon his shortcomings by hardwork.
 
He can, but how long do we give him? been pretty poor for the last 3-4 years.
 
He can, but how long do we give him? been pretty poor for the last 3-4 years.

Yes its high time for him to start performing regularly as an experienced campaigner.
 
Do Shehzad fans like you even have any shame? On the match thread you wanted Fakhar to be replaced by this mediocre batsman. Fakhar won us the champions trophy and has looked excellent so far. He is 5 times the batsman Shehzad is. Only these shameless Shehzad fans will even compare their hero to an actual aggressive, clutch batsman. But it's been obvious for years now that you lot don't even care a bit about the team, just like your hero.

Fakhar had a poor series and even played at a low SR this game.

Not saying he doesn't deserve more chances in this format but I was disappointed in his output on these flat wickets.
 
He has proven that quality and class is permanent
 
Shahzad

In AUS: 5.00
In NZ: 35.37

AND now for the funny stuff.

In WI: 25.61
In ZIM: 25.40

:))) :)))

What were you saying about WI?

47 against India in 2015 world cup.

67 against Ireland in 2015 world cup..

5 against Australia in 2015 world cup

Average of 5 :))
 
Please don't evade the subject.

What happened in WI and ZIM?

Well certain players have a certain flavor for certain sides.. Babar Azam just revels against WI, and I didn't know it was a milestone to bash a no.9 ranked team in the world where 80% of your centuries are against the same opponent :)) If babar fans have only these straws to clutch then be my guest and jump up about him all they like.

Unlike that atleast Shahzad's centuries have come against some top bowling, and in crucial matches too.. (NZ, SA, Asia Cup knockout vs Bangl to name a few), not in a dead rubber chasing 370 and playing at a strike rate of 66
 
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Also a complete disregard for Champion Babar's average in England....

10 Matches 255 runs 46 (Highest score) 31.87 average... pretty Shehzad-esque to me..
 
Yes chronic minnow basher... Shehzad and Babar go hand in hand.. stats will level out eventually

Ah, so we're predicting the future now.

I must admit I don't have that superpower. :)

BUT

Let's see Shahzad's stats after 31 ODIs to maintain the same sample size.

In SL: 8.80
In WI: 25.80
In ZIM: 27.66
In UAE: 37.12

Total AVG: 29.00

Please don't compare him to a guy averaging 53.
 
Ah, so we're predicting the future now.

I must admit I don't have that superpower. :)

BUT

Let's see Shahzad's stats after 31 ODIs to maintain the same sample size.

In SL: 8.80
In WI: 25.80
In ZIM: 27.66
In UAE: 37.12

Total AVG: 29.00

Please don't compare him to a guy averaging 53.

Yes we should totally compare a free run of 31 games to a guy who's first 31 games had him being chucked in and out of the side.. from 2010-13..
 
Yes we should totally compare a free run of 31 games to a guy who's first 31 games had him being chucked in and out of the side.. from 2010-13..

Look at the numbers I posted.

This player deserved a free run?
 
Guys who are actually comparing utter dross like Shehzad in ODIs to Babar ought to be ashamed of themselves
 
Just feel bad for people who always criticize Shehzad and kept on doing it even with his two decent knocks in firs two games. Must be feeling bad today.
 
I know this is like Eid for Shahzadians so Ill let them enjoy it but lets point out one fact

The fact that Shehzad despite hitting 3 sixes off 3 balls at the death ended up with a similar SR as Babar Azam TELLS YOU EVERYTHING

Obv hitting three sixes off 3 balls is a rare occassion for him (check his SR) so we cant bank on it always. So it shows that overall he played a slow innings whereas Babar kept the pace up throughout.

Probably the best post I've read in respect of his innings today - good but overrated and won't have the quality against top bowling attacks
 
It's an open secret that Shehzad plays for his average - once he's accomplished then he starts hitting. What's more shamless than his selfish batting is I see the so-called "Shehzadians" ^^^ I see taking a swipe at Fakhar Zaman.

Bitter pill for his fan-boys to swallow are that had Shehzad not been replaced by Fakhar Pakistan would never have won the CT.

Fakhar is still very young in his career and does have issues against 140+ and playing the short ball but he should be persisted with for the following reasons:

1) Plays with positive intent selflessly for the greater good of team where he exerts pressure on the bowlers, so his fellow batters can feed off it
2)Supreme ability to hit spin and score boundaries on the offside against the pacers
3) One of the very few batsmen in Pakistan's history who can handle the big occasion as evident in the CT 2017 especially in the final where he remarkably found a way to deliver a match winning hundred when he was struggling in the first 10 overs or so...
4) One of the very few batsman in Pakistan currently who knows how to build an innings

Hope common sense will prevail and PPers see that his failures in these exhibition matches on some pancake wickets are really insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

RANT OVER
 
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Just feel bad for people who always criticize Shehzad and kept on doing it even with his two decent knocks in firs two games. Must be feeling bad today.

Shahzad has been dropped from the main format, so I don't think those people would be feeling all that bad. His fans on the other hand,they went from celebrating to whining in a matter of hours.
 
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It's an open secret that Shehzad plays for his average - once he's accomplished then he starts hitting. What's more shamless than his selfish batting is I see the so-called "Shehzadians" ^^^ I see taking a swipe at Fakhar Zaman.

Bitter pill for his fan-boys to swallow are that had Shehzad not been replaced by Fakhar Pakistan would never have won the CT.

Fakhar is still very young in his career and does have issues against 140+ and playing the short ball but he should be persisted with for the following reasons:

1) Plays with positive intent selflessly for the greater good of team where he exerts pressure on the bowlers, so his fellow batters can feed off it
2)Supreme ability to hit spin and score boundaries on the offside against the pacers
3) One of the very few batsmen in Pakistan's history who can handle the big occasion as evident in the CT 2017 especially in the final where he remarkably found a way to deliver a match winning hundred when he was struggling in the first 10 overs or so...
4) One of the very few batsman in Pakistan currently who knows how to build an innings

Hope common sense will prevail and PPers see that his failures in these exhibition matches on some pancake wickets are really insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

RANT OVER

I don't know where you get your logic from. I think everyone would agree replacing Shehzad with Fakhar was right choice in Champions Trophy. No one having a go at Fakhar. All that's been pointed out is if Shehzad batted the way Fakhar did today everyone would been calling for his head.
And you call today a selfish innings. He was batting at strike rate of 200 in the power play and was going for his shots as Fakhar was struggling. He then upped the tempo when was needed and got run out attempting a stupid single for the benefit of team. He could have just relaxed and played for his 100. Some people are just too harsh on him as they don't like him.
Give credit where it's due.

And regarding Fakhar he is a must in our limited overs team and should be persisted with and hopefully he will overcome his shortcomings. We need a player like Fakhar opening.
 
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