And the fittest cricketer is?

:))) so this your "argument"? Rather childish of you as always :)) If i dont tell u the logic, there is no logic at all? If i dont tell you the reason why tendulkar is a great batsman, there is no reason at all? See, it works both ways :yk

Again talking rubbish, why are you so afraid of giving your logic? You thought you could get away with running your mouth but I exposed you brutally :afridi btw you have no "argument" :)))
 
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Again talking rubbish, why are you so afraid of giving your logic? You thought you could get away with running your mouth but I exposed you brutally :afridi

Ohhh i am exposed so badly, how will i sleep at night now :yk i am not giving you any logic because your question itself is rubbish.

Okay let me tell you how. Ask yourself, why is Kohli fitter than anyone else. When you come up with few qualities that you have seen in kohli which make you believe he is fitter, tell yourself that "maybe" based on what Mr. Madplayer has observed, these same qualities might be in the "nobody" that he is talking about but in an enhanced way which makes the "nobody" more fit than kohli according to him. And then also go on and accept that because you have no knowledge of the nobody, you cannot comment on it. Pretty self explanatory the logic isn't it? :yk
 
Ohhh i am exposed so badly, how will i sleep at night now :yk i am not giving you any logic because your question itself is rubbish.

Okay let me tell you how. Ask yourself, why is Kohli fitter than anyone else. When you come up with few qualities that you have seen in kohli which make you believe he is fitter, tell yourself that "maybe" based on what Mr. Madplayer has observed, these same qualities might be in the "nobody" that he is talking about but in an enhanced way which makes the "nobody" more fit than kohli according to him. And then also go on and accept that because you have no knowledge of the nobody, you cannot comment on it. Pretty self explanatory the logic isn't it? :yk

And that's where you are mistaken, how can you claim "in an enhanced way" :)) ? My question is very valid, it is your inability if you can't prove your point? Fitness is tested in the international arena, to compete with virat on fitness your "nobody" has to play international cricket for 5-6 years, not get injured and maintain the level of fitness shown by virat, also he needs to display the stamina and running shown by virat against the best fielders in the world, until then your "nobody" is just a nobody and doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as virat :kohli
 
And that's where you are mistaken, how can you claim "in an enhanced way" :)) ? My question is very valid, it is your inability if you can't prove your point? Fitness is tested in the international arena, to compete with virat on fitness your "nobody" has to play international cricket for 5-6 years, not get injured and maintain the level of fitness shown by virat, also he needs to display the stamina and running shown by virat against the best fielders in the world, until then your "nobody" is just a nobody and doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as virat :kohli

Selective reading again? Lol i have clearly mentioned that i am saying this on the basis of what i have observed. Many people have mentioned kapil dev just on the basis of him not getting injured often. Some have mentioned AB, Dilshan etc i dont see you getting on their back. Is it because they fit YOUR criteria of international cricket or simply because i compared a Pakistani with your lejund. :afridi

And lol at the criteria you gave :)) are these some set standards given by some institution or you are just blabbering it yourself?? :yk there is nowhere mentioned in the thread title that we have to only take players from international cricket so i dont even know why you are putting in so much efforts lol.
 
Selective reading again? Lol i have clearly mentioned that i am saying this on the basis of what i have observed. Many people have mentioned kapil dev just on the basis of him not getting injured often. Some have mentioned AB, Dilshan etc i dont see you getting on their back. Is it because they fit YOUR criteria of international cricket or simply because i compared a Pakistani with your lejund. :afridi

And lol at the criteria you gave :)) are these some set standards given by some institution or you are just blabbering it yourself?? :yk there is nowhere mentioned in the thread title that we have to only take players from international cricket so i dont even know why you are putting in so much efforts lol.

Selective reading I guess, there are people who mentioned younis khan, wahab and malik also, but I didn't go after them too, remove your green tinted glass and see, you are spouting BS that's why I questioned you, and you were not even able to give a logic to back your comment, the standards I mentioned are derived from logic, but I don't expect you to understand :afridi
 
Selective reading I guess, there are people who mentioned younis khan, wahab and malik also, but I didn't go after them too, remove your green tinted glass and see, you are spouting BS that's why I questioned you, and you were not even able to give a logic to back your comment, the standards I mentioned are derived from logic, but I don't expect you to understand :afridi

Again answering selectively and running away :afridi has the OP mentioned that we have to take only international cricketers into consideration?? I wasn't spouting BS , but you sure replied to me with BS lmao. I made an observation, shared it here and you have gone out of your way to "prove" thati shouldn't share it here because it doesn't meet "your" criteria. your comments make afridi look like a genius :))

And Who told you your "logical criterias" should be follwed by all? Let me guess, you yourself have declared them as the standard too :))) you sure are living in your own world :yk
 
Again answering selectively and running away :afridi has the OP mentioned that we have to take only international cricketers into consideration?? I wasn't spouting BS , but you sure replied to me with BS lmao. I made an observation, shared it here and you have gone out of your way to "prove" thati shouldn't share it here because it doesn't meet "your" criteria. your comments make afridi look like a genius :))

And Who told you your "logical criterias" should be follwed by all? Let me guess, you yourself have declared them as the standard too :))) you sure are living in your own world :yk

Your ad hominems make you look weak :yk, everything needs to be explained to you it seems, did I say you can't talk about international cricketers? You can if you have the ability to back those players with logic, which you lack :afridi, intentional cricket is the pinnacle of cricket and no player who hasn't played at international level can be awarded the fittest title, you are free to give your wrong opinions and I am free to question them, at least I have "logical criterias" you have nothing :yk, you seem to be pleading me to stop interrogating you :)))
 
Your ad hominems make you look weak :yk,
So now you are some sort of a mind reader :)) oh God you are really trying hard . its embarrassing really.

everything needs to be explained to you it seems, did I say you can't talk about international cricketers?
Yes you did and i quote :
What ever way you want to judge, but do it only in international cricket
Exposed once again :yk oh boy the pwnage is real. Moving on.

You can if you have the ability to back those players with logic, which you lack :afridi,
I already gave you the logic. All the qualities like stamina, agility etc that you find in kohli, i might find it more in some other player who i have seen play and you have not. You dont want to accept it, your choice.

intentional cricket is the pinnacle of cricket and no player who hasn't played at international level can be awarded the fittest title,
Oh boy once again contradicting yourself and making rules which aren't mentioned in the OP. What a nose dive :)))

you are free to give your wrong opinions and I am free to question them, at least I have "logical criterias" you have nothing :yk
Big round of applause for your logical criterias. Write a paper and name it The SI units of fitness in cricket by mister carrom_ball.

you seem to be pleading me to stop interrogating you :)))

I assure you its a torture. But not for the reasons you believe :)))
 
So now you are some sort of a mind reader :)) oh God you are really trying hard . its embarrassing really.
You don't have to be a mind reader to deduce that, it is really embarrasing :yk
Yes you did and i quote :
Are you that slow? I said you can talk about non international cricketers if you have abilitiy to back them with logic, I gave my logic why only international cricketers should be considered, more embarrasment for you :yk

I already gave you the logic. All the qualities like stamina, agility etc that you find in kohli, i might find it more in some other player who i have seen play and you have not. You dont want to accept it, your choice.
And I countered your so called "logic" :)) and you have been runing away since then :afridi
Oh boy once again contradicting yourself and making rules which aren't mentioned in the OP. What a nose dive :)))
Maybe you are just not smart enough to understand, what is the contradiction? :yk2
Big round of applause for your logical criterias. Write a paper and name it The SI units of fitness in cricket by mister carrom_ball.
Sadly no round of applause for your pathetic running away from the argument :afridi

I assure you its a torture. But not for the reasons you believe :)))

And I will continue to torture you, be assured of that :srini
 
You don't have to be a mind reader to deduce that, it is really embarrasing :yk

Are you that slow? I said you can talk about non international cricketers if you have abilitiy to back them with logic, I gave my logic why only international cricketers should be considered, more embarrasment for you :yk


And I countered your so called "logic" :)) and you have been runing away since then :afridi

Maybe you are just not smart enough to understand, what is the contradiction? :yk2

Sadly no round of applause for your pathetic running away from the argument :afridi



And I will continue to torture you, be assured of that :srini

Are we playing ringa ringa roses? Why are you running in circles? How did u counter ? With your self proclaimed logic?
 
Are we playing ringa ringa roses? Why are you running in circles? How did u counter ? With your self proclaimed logic?

The same way you gave your so-called "logic", your main point was that you think your "nobody" has greater fitness, stamina etc based on what you saw and I told you fitness and stamina is only tested against the best in the world, which is international cricket, how can you say he is fitter when he hasn't even faced that level of testing
 
The same way you gave your so-called "logic", your main point was that you think your "nobody" has greater fitness, stamina etc based on what you saw and I told you fitness and stamina is only tested against the best in the world, which is international cricket, how can you say he is fitter when he hasn't even faced that level of testing

How is fitness stamina tested only against international players?? What are u saying? Players have to stay in the field for long hours, run hard against good and quick fielders, bowl lengthy spells etc in domestic as well. If you are fit in domestic cricket , you will carry that into international cricket.

Btw Kohli himself looked worn out by the end of his innings against WI and the commentators specifically mentioned it that he looks tired.
 
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How is fitness stamina tested only against international players?? What are u saying? Players have to stay in the field for long hours, run hard against good and quick fielders, bowl lengthy spells etc in domestic as well. If you are fit in domestic cricket , you will carry that into international cricket.

Btw Kohli himself looked worn out by the end of his innings against WI and the umpires specifically mentioned it that he looks tired.

Because international players push you harder, take kohli's running against australia as example, he was running twos against some of the best fielders in world, a person of ordinary fitness couldn't pull that off, on the other hand against a weak fielding unit you can easily steal runs, the fielding level in domestic cricket is no where near international level, so how can you be so sure if your player could do what kohli did against australia?

Secondly, the chance of getting injured at international level is much greater than domestics, you have to be on your toes facing the best bowlers, also while fielding, if your reflexes aren't good then you will get injured regularly, look at what happened to yuvraj, very few players have managed to play a large no. of matches without getting injured, that shows that you can't compare fitness at international level to domestics.

So what I am trying to say is the player you are talking about might be super fit as you claim but if he hasn't been tested in internationals yet then you can't claim him to better than kohli in fitness, my problem with you was that you claimed his fitness to be better than kohli, if you said he has the potential to be fittest or that he can be in the league of kohli then I wouldn't have a problem with it, but you went out of your way to declare him ahead of kohli when he hasn't even played any international cricket
 
batsmen being talked about far more than bowlers on this thread. surely bowling 25 overs on a hot day is harder than scoring some runs in a t20 match
 
neither did arjuna ranatunga. that doesnt mean he was the most athletic.

Kindly check my post again and check that it was a response to another post. And then reply. btw about ranatunga comparison with Kapil, is pretty stupid. Kapil was a top pace bowler, good batsman n a great fielder. If thats not athletic, wonder what is!
 
Usain Bolt or a marathon runner? Who is fitter?

What is the definition of fitter?
 
Kindly check my post again and check that it was a response to another post. And then reply. btw about ranatunga comparison with Kapil, is pretty stupid. Kapil was a top pace bowler, good batsman n a great fielder. If thats not athletic, wonder what is!

i did. u were using the argument that kapil never missing a game due to poor fitness was somehow indicative of him being an athlete. it's not. ranatunga never missed a game due to his fitness either but nobody would call him an athlete.
 
Because international players push you harder, take kohli's running against australia as example, he was running twos against some of the best fielders in world, a person of ordinary fitness couldn't pull that off, on the other hand against a weak fielding unit you can easily steal runs, the fielding level in domestic cricket is no where near international level, so how can you be so sure if your player could do what kohli did against australia?
So the other batsmen who were running with kohli were equally fit as kohli?
Taking singles isn't the only thing that defines fitness. In every post you say the same thing. Domestic cricket gives us a good idea about the fitness of a player so please stop undermining its importance. Even domestic T20 and all these leagues that have popped up tell you a lot because the franchises wont select unfit players.


Secondly, the chance of getting injured at international level is much greater than domestics, you have to be on your toes facing the best bowlers, also while fielding, if your reflexes aren't good then you will get injured regularly, look at what happened to yuvraj, very few players have managed to play a large no. of matches without getting injured, that shows that you can't compare fitness at international level to domestics.
Injury can happen to anyone. Anyone can get hit by the ball so i am not sure what you are on about. Fitness issues are different than on field injuries. Even kohli got hit by steyn's deliveries on his body when he went to SA.

So what I am trying to say is the player you are talking about might be super fit as you claim but if he hasn't been tested in internationals yet then you can't claim him to better than kohli in fitness, my problem with you was that you claimed his fitness to be better than kohli, if you said he has the potential to be fittest or that he can be in the league of kohli then I wouldn't have a problem with it, but you went out of your way to declare him ahead of kohli when he hasn't even played any international cricket

But bro , He is fitter than kohli. :yk
 
So the other batsmen who were running with kohli were equally fit as kohli?
Taking singles isn't the only thing that defines fitness. In every post you say the same thing. Domestic cricket gives us a good idea about the fitness of a player so please stop undermining its importance. Even domestic T20 and all these leagues that have popped up tell you a lot because the franchises wont select unfit players.

Dhoni is also one of the fittest guys in world cricket, even dhoni is > your "nobody", at least I post something, you don't post anything at all, you talk a lot and say nothing :yk

Injury can happen to anyone. Anyone can get hit by the ball so i am not sure what you are on about. Fitness issues are different than on field injuries. Even kohli got hit by steyn's deliveries on his body when he went to SA.

And that's why a person who can maintain fitness for longer time is fitter, your "nobody" hasn't shown anything to be worthy of comparison with kohli, again saying nothing at all

But bro , He is fitter than kohli. :yk

But bro, he is not fitter than kohli, he can't afford kohli's fitness plan, he's not even fit enough to tie kohli's shoelaces :srini
 
Dhoni is also one of the fittest guys in world cricket, even dhoni is > your "nobody", at least I post something, you don't post anything at all, you talk a lot and say nothing :yk
The irony! Lol . All your posts can be replaced with one sentence i.e. "we cant rate fitness based on domestic cricket". You litetally have said the same thing In all your posts using different words. Even in this post you have just thrown around different words + some useless gibberish in between to say the same thing as your previous n number of posts.
First you said kohli is very fit because he took quick singles against aussie fielders. You didnt even consider the fact that non-striker also has to have the same level of fitness. Now when i mentioned it, you are saying "no no the non-strikers were also fit". You seem to be losing track of what you want to say.

And that's why a person who can maintain fitness for longer time is fitter, your "nobody" hasn't shown anything to be worthy of comparison with kohli, again saying nothing at all
Irrelevant reply. Still dont see how on field injuries and fitness related issues are same? The fittest guys can have accidents on the field.
Saying nothing at all ? Lol i see now you have found a new way to dodge the points which expose your flawed logic.


But bro, he is not fitter than kohli, he can't afford kohli's fitness plan, he's not even fit enough to tie kohli's shoelaces :srini

:))) i see my style is inspiring you so much that you are copying it in almost every post :afridi and how do you know he can't afford it? Has he hired you to look after his finances? :srini Its not even important to follow the schedule of "kholi" :yk
 
The irony! Lol . All your posts can be replaced with one sentence i.e. "we cant rate fitness based on domestic cricket". You litetally have said the same thing In all your posts using different words. Even in this post you have just thrown around different words + some useless gibberish in between to say the same thing as your previous n number of posts.
First you said kohli is very fit because he took quick singles against aussie fielders. You didnt even consider the fact that non-striker also has to have the same level of fitness. Now when i mentioned it, you are saying "no no the non-strikers were also fit". You seem to be losing track of what you want to say.

All your posts can be replaced with nothing because you have nothing to say, instead since I exposed you brutally you've been running from argument ever since. It's not my fault that you are not smart enough to understand that kohli running singles example was to show his fitness level, is it news to you that dhoni is also one of the fittest guys in world cricket? Are you that slow? You are a walking talking irony :yk
Irrelevant reply. Still dont see how on field injuries and fitness related issues are same? The fittest guys can have accidents on the field.
Saying nothing at all ? Lol i see now you have found a new way to dodge the points which expose your flawed logic.

All your posts till now have been irrelevant replies, you don't see anything, till now you haven't given 1 proof as to why your "nobody" is fitter than kohli, dodging is your specialty, why is your "nobody" fitter than kohli again? because you say so? :yk

:))) i see my style is inspiring you so much that you are copying it in almost every post :afridi and how do you know he can't afford it? Has he hired you to look after his finances? :srini Its not even important to follow the schedule of "kholi" :yk

Everything needs to be explained to you, why are you so slow man? Kohli is one of the richest cricketers who has hired best fitness instructors to train him where as your "nobody" is not rich enough to follow his diet plan, on top of that pakistani cricketers are notorious for eating some of the worst foods, we have seen plenty of pictures of that on this forum. Even you know your "nobody" is not good enough to compete with kohli, your "nobody" might not even get to play international cricket, you are just blaberring for the sake of it but don't worry you will get a befitting reply every time :srini
 
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The irony! Lol . All your posts can be replaced with one sentence i.e. "we cant rate fitness based on domestic cricket". You litetally have said the same thing In all your posts using different words. Even in this post you have just thrown around different words + some useless gibberish in between to say the same thing as your previous n number of posts.
First you said kohli is very fit because he took quick singles against aussie fielders. You didnt even consider the fact that non-striker also has to have the same level of fitness. Now when i mentioned it, you are saying "no no the non-strikers were also fit". You seem to be losing track of what you want to say.


Irrelevant reply. Still dont see how on field injuries and fitness related issues are same? The fittest guys can have accidents on the field.
Saying nothing at all ? Lol i see now you have found a new way to dodge the points which expose your flawed logic.




:))) i see my style is inspiring you so much that you are copying it in almost every post :afridi and how do you know he can't afford it? Has he hired you to look after his finances? :srini Its not even important to follow the schedule of "kholi" :yk

It's OK man, let him be. Can't you see the poor guy is insecure about his hero because someone rates another player (especially a Pakistani) above him. It's Déjà vu for anyone who encountered the intolerant Sachinistas back in the day. They simply cannot respect anyone else's right to an opinion different from their's, therefore they always resort to cheap tactics, such as calling players 'nobodies'.
 
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Certainly, not the Pakistani fielders. Yesterday, I watched the re-run of PSL. The fielding was hilarious at some places. :9:
 
All your posts can be replaced with nothing because you have nothing to say, instead since I exposed you brutally you've been running from argument ever since. It's not my fault that you are not smart enough to understand that kohli running singles example was to show his fitness level, is it news to you that dhoni is also one of the fittest guys in world cricket? Are you that slow? You are a walking talking irony :yk


All your posts till now have been irrelevant replies, you don't see anything, till now you haven't given 1 proof as to why your "nobody" is fitter than kohli, dodging is your specialty, why is your "nobody" fitter than kohli again? because you say so? :yk



Everything needs to be explained to you, why are you so slow man? Kohli is one of the richest cricketers who has hired best fitness instructors to train him where as your "nobody" is not rich enough to follow his diet plan, on top of that pakistani cricketers are notorious for eating some of the worst foods, we have seen plenty of pictures of that on this forum. Even you know your "nobody" is not good enough to compete with kohli, your "nobody" might not even get to play international cricket, you are just blaberring for the sake of it but don't worry you will get a befitting reply every time :srini





OK M8. :asadrauf
 
Woah M8, that's totally equivalent to what I was saying, NOT

The fact is that players don't play intl. cricket to get fit. They workout to get fit and eventually give their best performance on the field of play. Nobody builds the stamina and acquires the speed to run plenty of fast doubles by running between the wickets against intl. teams. It's an ability that is acquired by putting in the hard yards in the gym and maintaining an appropriate diet. Quite a simple concept. :irfan

Therefore, just because 20 year old :kg hasn't made an intl. debut, doesn't necessarily mean that he hasn't yet acquired the fitness level to achieve the feats of athleticism that Kohli is capable of. The gulf in cricketing skills is a different matter, but if the guy has achieved the fitness level of Kohli (doesn't matter if he has exhibited it in intl. cricket yet) and can bat/bowl/field at a basic level, he belongs on this thread as much as :kohli does.
 
The fact is that players don't play intl. cricket to get fit. They workout to get fit and eventually give their best performance on the field of play. Nobody builds the stamina and acquires the speed to run plenty of fast doubles by running between the wickets against intl. teams. It's an ability that is acquired by putting in the hard yards in the gym and maintaining an appropriate diet. Quite a simple concept. :irfan

Therefore, just because 20 year old :kg hasn't made an intl. debut, doesn't necessarily mean that he hasn't yet acquired the fitness level to achieve the feats of athleticism that Kohli is capable of. The gulf in cricketing skills is a different matter, but if the guy has achieved the fitness level of Kohli (doesn't matter if he has exhibited it in intl. cricket yet) and can bat/bowl/field at a basic level, he belongs on this thread as much as :kohli does.

You didn't read previous posts it seems, the whole argument is that madplayer is rating him at ahead of kohli at this moment, I even said to him that if he said that his player has the potential to match kohli then I wouldn't have a problem with it, but he insists that his player is ahead of kohli in fitness at the current level but then he can't back it up with proof, the thing you mentioned about him being capable or not, I never had a problem with it, so next time read my argument before refuting it :srini
 
All your posts can be replaced with nothing because you have nothing to say, instead since I exposed you brutally you've been running from argument ever since.

Why dont you be original for once and stop copying what i say :)) you are embarrasing yourself.
And i haven't been running away at all. You saying so doesn't make it true. You seem to be a master at self proclaiming. In fact On the contrary you are running in circles.

I said a certain player is fittest in subcontinent, even more than Kohli from what i have seen of him (my personal opinion). You said he cant be the fittest because fittest because he hasn't played international cricket. I said fitness is also tested in domestic cricket (the "debate" could have ended there if you had agreed to disagree but thats too much to ask from you). Then You said domestic fielders are slow , kohli took quick singles against Australia's quick fielders and all so he is fit (okay 100 times as an example, happy? :)) ). I , and another poster as well, said there are other aspects of fitness which you are ignoring. You replied that Kohli is fittest because he does everything in international cricket. Hence the vicious circle was completed. Among all this you spouted some nonsense like kohli has money etc etc as well which you repeated again and again like everything else. This is what you are doing in this thread. And oh yes, i forgot you hiding behind the "you are slow and you are not smart" argument :yk

Fact is running quickly between the wickets in LOIs is the only example you could have used to a certain degree which in some cases has to be done against superior fielders than we find in domestic cricket. You find all the rest of things in domestic cricket like batting for long hours, bowling long spells, staying in the field for many hours etc which test a player's fitness levels.

It's not my fault that you are not smart enough to understand that kohli running singles example was to show his fitness level, is it news to you that dhoni is also one of the fittest guys in world cricket? Are you that slow? You are a walking talking irony :yk
:)) basically refer to what i said above.
Adding to it i know dhoni is very fit. I was just saying for kohli to successfully run quick between the wickets he needs support from the other end as well. Now are you so slow to understand this? :afridi

All your posts till now have been irrelevant replies, you don't see anything, till now you haven't given 1 proof as to why your "nobody" is fitter than kohli, dodging is your specialty, why is your "nobody" fitter than kohli again? because you say so? :yk
Again basically copying what i said to you. You are looking very desperate now. I have answered this question before but you are lost somewhere else in kholi land. Why do u think kohli is fittes in the world? Because you have seen him playing. Similarly i might also see some other guy playing at competitive level and feel he is fitter. Actually you have realized that you don't have a point here so now you are clutching at straws :)) you are picking what you want to see and what you want to ignore. It should be me actually who should do the ignoring part giving the standard of your replies but i am choosing to make you understand a fairly obvious thing.


Everything needs to be explained to you, why are you so slow man? Kohli is one of the richest cricketers who has hired best fitness instructors to train him where as your "nobody" is not rich enough to follow his diet plan,
Again How do you know this that he isn't rich enough to follow a diet plan? You earlier said you dont even know him and now this. Throwing punches in thin air now? :yk
You dont need "expensive" fitness instructors to teach you how to stay fit anyways.

on top of that pakistani cricketers are notorious for eating some of the worst foods, we have seen plenty of pictures of that on this forum.
Generalization is not my cup of tea. I believe what i see. Neither do i throw punches in thin air and make a fool out of myself.

Even you know your "nobody" is not good enough to compete with kohli, your "nobody" might not even get to play international cricket, you are just blaberring for the sake of it but don't worry you will get a befitting reply every time :srini

But bro, he is wayyy fitter than "kholi" :)) "befitting reply" :yk
 
It's OK man, let him be. Can't you see the poor guy is insecure about his hero because someone rates another player (especially a Pakistani) above him. It's Déjà vu for anyone who encountered the intolerant Sachinistas back in the day. They simply cannot respect anyone else's right to an opinion different from their's, therefore they always resort to cheap tactics, such as calling players 'nobodies'.

We rate fitness of players who we see playing in the field. He is trying to make a simple thing very complex by using the international vs domestic card.
And on top of that he is giving "befitting" replies :)))
 
You didn't read previous posts it seems, the whole argument is that madplayer is rating him at ahead of kohli at this moment, I even said to him that if he said that his player has the potential to match kohli then I wouldn't have a problem with it, but he insists that his player is ahead of kohli in fitness at the current level but then he can't back it up with proof, the thing you mentioned about him being capable or not, I never had a problem with it, so next time read my argument before refuting it :srini

Why cant he be more fit than kohli at this stage? You are saying as if its impossible? I didnt say he is a better cricketer than kohli. Gee :facepalm:
 
Why dont you be original for once and stop copying what i say :)) you are embarrasing yourself.
And i haven't been running away at all. You saying so doesn't make it true. You seem to be a master at self proclaiming. In fact On the contrary you are running in circles.

I said a certain player is fittest in subcontinent, even more than Kohli from what i have seen of him (my personal opinion). You said he cant be the fittest because fittest because he hasn't played international cricket. I said fitness is also tested in domestic cricket (the "debate" could have ended there if you had agreed to disagree but thats too much to ask from you). Then You said domestic fielders are slow , kohli took quick singles against Australia's quick fielders and all so he is fit (okay 100 times as an example, happy? :)) ). I , and another poster as well, said there are other aspects of fitness which you are ignoring. You replied that Kohli is fittest because he does everything in international cricket. Hence the vicious circle was completed. Among all this you spouted some nonsense like kohli has money etc etc as well which you repeated again and again like everything else. This is what you are doing in this thread. And oh yes, i forgot you hiding behind the "you are slow and you are not smart" argument :yk

Fact is running quickly between the wickets in LOIs is the only example you could have used to a certain degree which in some cases has to be done against superior fielders than we find in domestic cricket. You find all the rest of things in domestic cricket like batting for long hours, bowling long spells, staying in the field for many hours etc which test a player's fitness levels.

The only thing embarrassing on this thread is you, I have mentioned other aspects of fitness too but it seems either you didn't read it due to short attention span or may be you forgot about it, I did say playing long innings, staying fit without getting injured etc are other aspects of fitness and kohli has shown them too at the international level, even his fielding can be used as an example of his fitness, whatever your player has done in the domestics is not equivalent to kohli's feat but of the gulf in quality between international and domestics, the fact of the matter is that there is no way you can prove that your player is fitter than kohli, is difficult for you to agree to disagree, why do you want me to do that :yk

:)) basically refer to what i said above.
Adding to it i know dhoni is very fit. I was just saying for kohli to successfully run quick between the wickets he needs support from the other end as well. Now are you so slow to understand this? :afridi

And this has nothing to do with my argument, how is the fact that kohli requires support at the other end for running twos relevant to the fitness issue? I gave example of kohli's running to show his fitness, how difficult is it to understand?

Again basically copying what i said to you. You are looking very desperate now. I have answered this question before but you are lost somewhere else in kholi land. Why do u think kohli is fittes in the world? Because you have seen him playing. Similarly i might also see some other guy playing at competitive level and feel he is fitter. Actually you have realized that you don't have a point here so now you are clutching at straws :)) you are picking what you want to see and what you want to ignore. It should be me actually who should do the ignoring part giving the standard of your replies but i am choosing to make you understand a fairly obvious thing.

Oh the irony, I am clutching to the straws :))), please show me the part where you proved that your player is fitter than kohli, I must have missed that :msd

Again How do you know this that he isn't rich enough to follow a diet plan? You earlier said you dont even know him and now this. Throwing punches in thin air now? :yk
You dont need "expensive" fitness instructors to teach you how to stay fit anyways.

How do I know he's not rich enough lol, because he isn't an international cricketer, unless he's from a rich family please tell me is it difficult to deduce that he's not rich enough, you are losing it :msd
You dont need "expensive" fitness instructors to teach you how to stay fit anyways.

Again, another statement without any evidence to back it up, embarrassing :yk
Generalization is not my cup of tea. I believe what i see. Neither do i throw punches in thin air and make a fool out of myself.

All you have been doing till now is throw punches in thin air, you have already mad a fool out of yourself :msd

But bro, he is wayyy fitter than "kholi" :)) "befitting reply" :yk

But bro, he is not fit enough to tie kohli's shoelaces :)), befitting reply :yk
 
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Why cant he be more fit than kohli at this stage? You are saying as if its impossible? I didnt say he is a better cricketer than kohli. Gee :facepalm:

I didn't say it is impossible, but if you claim him to be better then prove it, which you didn't
 
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You didn't read previous posts it seems, the whole argument is that madplayer is rating him at ahead of kohli at this moment, I even said to him that if he said that his player has the potential to match kohli then I wouldn't have a problem with it, but he insists that his player is ahead of kohli in fitness at the current level but then he can't back it up with proof, the thing you mentioned about him being capable or not, I never had a problem with it, so next time read my argument before refuting it :srini

I'm not arguing about whether Kami or Kohli is fitter, as I haven't seen much of Kami. However, I certainly disagree with the notion that he can't be fitter, just because up till now he's a nobody in intl. cricket. As far as I'm concerned, fitness is not achieved by performing on the pitch. It's achieved by daily effort and discipline.

Of course, it may be gauged by performance on the pitch, whether in intl./domestic/franchise cricket. You could argue that Madplayer hasn't gauged his fitness adequately, due to not seeing too much of him on the field, but you can't say that it's not possible for him to have matched or surpassed Kohli's fitness level (not cricketing abilities), just because he hasn't displayed it at the intl. stage yet.
 
I'm not arguing about whether Kami or Kohli is fitter, as I haven't seen much of Kami. However, I certainly disagree with the notion that he can't be fitter, just because up till now he's a nobody in intl. cricket. As far as I'm concerned, fitness is not achieved by performing on the pitch. It's achieved by daily effort and discipline.

Of course, it may be gauged by performance on the pitch, whether in intl./domestic/franchise cricket. You could argue that Madplayer hasn't gauged his fitness adequately, due to not seeing too much of him on the field, but you can't say that it's not possible for him to have matched or surpassed Kohli's fitness level (not cricketing abilities), just because he hasn't displayed it at the intl. stage yet.

But then you can't say the he has surpassed kohli's fitness level, can you?
 
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I didn't say it is impossible, but if you claim him to be better then prove it, which you didn't

Eventually it's all about opinion, isn't it? How do you 'prove' Kohli is fitter than AB, or Cook is fitter than Dhoni, for example?
I don't think this is a facts/stats based thread. I can't objectively conclude anyone to be the fittest cricketer in the world. I can only provide contenders for the top spot.
 
But then you can't say the he has surpassed kohli's fitness level, can you?

I'm not making any blanket statements, but I certainly don't disrespect either of your's or Madplayer's claims.

Why don't you guys agree to disagree and quit mudslinging. It's sort of derailed the thread. :najam
 
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Eventually it's all about opinion, isn't it? How do you 'prove' Kohli is fitter than AB, or Cook is fitter than Dhoni, for example?
I don't think this is a facts/stats based thread. I can't objectively conclude anyone to be the fittest cricketer in the world. I can only provide contenders for the top spot.

I agree, it is about opinion but we can question someone's opinion, can't we, I gave my logic as why I think he's not at kohli's level but madplayer didn't give his logic behind rating his player better( other than that he think he's better :yk), he could have simply left the discussion saying it is his opinion but he continues to argue so I just give him the befitting replies :srini
 
I'm not making any blanket statements, but I certainly don't disrespect either of your's or Madplayer's claims.

Why don't you guys agree to disagree and quit mudslinging. It's sort of derailed the thread. :najam
[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] do you want to continue, perfect opportunity provided by [MENTION=134551]Muhammad10[/MENTION] to end this here :yk
 
The only thing embarrassing on this thread is you, I have mentioned other aspects of fitness too but it seems either you didn't read it due to short attention span or may be you forgot about it, I did say playing long innings, staying fit without getting injured etc are other aspects of fitness and kohli has shown them too at the international level, even his fielding can be used as an example of his fitness,
Ohh staying fit without getting injured part i have already debunked because you considered on field injury and general fitness issues as same. So that doesnt even count here. And you are saying the same thing again that kohli has done it at international level :facepalm: this is the only thing you are clinging on to.


whatever your player has done in the domestics is not equivalent to kohli's feat but of the gulf in quality between international and domestics, the fact of the matter is that there is no way you can prove that your player is fitter than kohli,

And there is no way you can prove kohli is fitter than kamran ghulam. Kamran has a better leaner physique, is more agile and has more stamina based on what i have seen. You can comment because you haven't seen him. End off.

is difficult for you to agree to disagree, why do you want me to do that :yk
I already said i disagree with you. But its you who is trying to prove a point by going on and on and on and talking about befitting replies. Lol

And this has nothing to do with my argument, how is the fact that kohli requires support at the other end for running twos relevant to the fitness issue? I gave example of kohli's running to show his fitness, how difficult is it to understand?
I was talking about that particular example of running between the wickets. Kohli runs hard between the wickets , so does his partner. So his partners in rahane and dhoni etc should be considered equally fit according to this example if looked in isolation? We wont even be talking about kohli's running between the wickets displaying his fitness if his partners got run out. Kohli would be considered a bad runner if his partner gets runout because of him running for everything.


Oh the irony, I am clutching to the straws :))), please show me the part where you proved that your player is fitter than kohli, I must have missed that :msd
You didnt miss anything. You either didnt understand or you have nothing more left to say and now are embarrassed to go on in cycles. :yk


How do I know he's not rich enough lol, because he isn't an international cricketer, unless he's from a rich family please tell me is it difficult to deduce that he's not rich enough, you are losing it :msd
Exactly what i meant. How do u know he is from such a poor family that he cant afford to get a diet plan? Yes it is quite difficult to deduce whether a person is rich or poor when you dont know him.

Again, another statement without any evidence to back it up, embarrassing :yk
Lol do you mean you only have to have the most expensive instructors in order to become fit? You are goner already it seems :))

All you have been doing till now is throw punches in thin air, you have already mad a fool out of yourself :msd
:))) again copying what i said. Boy you should be a bollywood director.


But bro, he is not fit enough to tie kohli's shoelaces :)), befitting reply :yk
Yes he isnt fit enough to do that. but kohli is fit enough to tie his shoe laces so kohki better start doing his job :)) "befitting" reply :yk
 
[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] do you want to continue, perfect opportunity provided by [MENTION=134551]Muhammad10[/MENTION] to end this here :yk

I am just getting started. You dont know me. And you certainly dont know what you have gotten yourself into :)) although i might think about it if you come out and ask for it to stop :afridi
 
Ohh staying fit without getting injured part i have already debunked because you considered on field injury and general fitness issues as same. So that doesnt even count here. And you are saying the same thing again that kohli has done it at international level :facepalm: this is the only thing you are clinging on to.

Where did you debunk that, doesn't count because you say so, lol, throwing punches in the air again :yk

And there is no way you can prove kohli is fitter than kamran ghulam. Kamran has a better leaner physique, is more agile and has more stamina based on what i have seen. You can comment because you haven't seen him. End off.
I already gave you the logic why I think kohli is fitter than your guy, I havent seen you refuting that, how is your guy more agile? I already gave you the example of kohli's running against best fielders to show he is more agile, rahane, dhoni etc can also run very fast but they can't match kohli's running, I can very well comment, you seem very desperate now. End off :yk
I already said i disagree with you. But its you who is trying to prove a point by going on and on and on and talking about befitting replies. Lol

Good, I am not trying to prove, I already proved it :msd
I was talking about that particular example of running between the wickets. Kohli runs hard between the wickets , so does his partner. So his partners in rahane and dhoni etc should be considered equally fit according to this example if looked in isolation? We wont even be talking about kohli's running between the wickets displaying his fitness if his partners got run out. Kohli would be considered a bad runner if his partner gets runout because of him running for everything.

As mentioned earlier, dhoni rahane etc are excellent runners but below kohli as seen from the matches, I will elaborate if you need :msd
You didnt miss anything. You either didnt understand or you have nothing more left to say and now are embarrassed to go on in cycles. :yk
I surely did miss your profound logical counter argument, oh wait you didn't give any logical argument at all :msd


Exactly what i meant. How do u know he is from such a poor family that he cant afford to get a diet plan? Yes it is quite difficult to deduce whether a person is rich or poor when you dont know him.

Exactly what you meant? :yk2 lol I told you how I deduced he's isn't rich, you still didn't counter it, again dodging and running :msd
Lol do you mean you only have to have the most expensive instructors in order to become fit? You are goner already it seems :))

Again, comprehension problems at your end, I didn't say you only have to have the most expensive instructors to be fit, but having them gives you advantage over others and makes you "fitter" than others

:))) again copying what i said. Boy you should be a bollywood director.

Sure, I am very talented :msd
Yes he isnt fit enough to do that. but kohli is fit enough to tie his shoe laces so kohki better start doing his job :)) "befitting" reply :yk

But bro, he's not fit enough to tie kohli's shoelaces, befitting reply :yk
 
I am just getting started. You dont know me. And you certainly dont know what you have gotten yourself into :)) although i might think about it if you come out and ask for it to stop :afridi

And you don't know me, you will keep getting befitting replies :afridi
 
Where did you debunk that, doesn't count because you say so, lol, throwing punches in the air again :yk
Go through the previous posts again and this time try to read what you have previously ignored :yk


I already gave you the logic why I think kohli is fitter than your guy, I havent seen you refuting that, how is your guy more agile? I already gave you the example of kohli's running against best fielders to show he is more agile,
Logic? Thats more like you have found one thing and now are clinging on to it for your life. Its again the only example you are using :)) running between the wickets lol i have seen kamran run like lightening in the outfield, much quicker than kohli. He can last longer in a match without huffing and puffing like kohli was doing by the end of his innings against WI and Aus. That good enough for you?


rahane, dhoni etc can also run very fast but they can't match kohli's running,
Lol how? They never got runout while taking on fielders with kohli did they?

I can very well comment, you seem very desperate now. End off :yk
The irony!!!! :)) you cant comment because you haven't even seen him play. Still you are throwing punches and catching thin air . and i am the one who is desperate :)) you are an embarrassment really. Why you doing this to yourself?

Good, I am not trying to prove, I already proved it :msd
Lol again nothing at all but gibberish

As mentioned earlier, dhoni rahane etc are excellent runners but below kohli as seen from the matches, I will elaborate if you need :msd
Please do

I surely did miss your profound logical counter argument, oh wait you didn't give any logical argument at all :msd
*Cough* selective reading *cough*


Exactly what you meant? :yk2 lol I told you how I deduced he's isn't rich, you still didn't counter it, again dodging and running :msd
Again comprehension fail like always. You did tell me how you deduced it but it obviously was illogical like everything else that you have written.

Again, comprehension problems at your end, I didn't say you only have to have the most expensive instructors to be fit, but having them gives you advantage over others and makes you "fitter" than others
Thats rubbish. There is no guarentee that Expensive instructors will make you fitter than others. I dont even need to explain how absurd it sounds.



Sure, I am very talented :msd
At copying, you sure are. :yk


But bro, he's not fit enough to tie kohli's shoelaces, befitting reply :yk

But bro, maza nahi aya. refer to what i said to this in previous post :))
 
Go through the previous posts again and this time try to read what you have previously ignored

I didn't miss anything, you have been hopping and jumping trying to dodge and run away from me in every post :yk

Logic? Thats more like you have found one thing and now are clinging on to it for your life. Its again the only example you are using :)) running between the wickets lol i have seen kamran run like lightening in the outfield, much quicker than kohli. He can last longer in a match without huffing and puffing like kohli was doing by the end of his innings against WI and Aus. That good enough for you?

Oh you have seen your "nobody" run like lightening :yk2, is that your logic? :yk, is there a speedometer embedded in your eyes that you were able to gauge his speed?:ksi no wonder you are slow, try again :srini
Lol how? They never got runout while taking on fielders with kohli did they?
Just like you gauged the speed of your "nobody" through your eyes, use that same talent to see the difference between kohli and others :)))

The irony!!!! :)) you cant comment because you haven't even seen him play. Still you are throwing punches and catching thin air . and i am the one who is desperate :)) you are an embarrassment really. Why you doing this to yourself?
I haven't seen him play, still I am able to give better logic about him than you, now that's the most embarrasing thing for you :msd

Lol again nothing at all but gibberish
Congrats, you just described all your comments :14:
Please do

Nah, I'll wait for your logic first :msd
*Cough* selective reading *cough*
You are an expert at that
Again comprehension fail like always. You did tell me how you deduced it but it obviously was illogical like everything else that you have written.
Seems like your brain has stopped working now, let me tell you how it works, just you saying something is illogical doesn't make something illogical, you have give a counter argument but since you are incapable of it you can't do anything but dodge :msd, so is your "nobody" richer than kohli? :yk2 you still haven't answered this
Thats rubbish. There is no guarentee that Expensive instructors will make you fitter than others. I dont even need to explain how absurd it sounds.

Everything you have posted till now is rubbish, all you can reply is "how can you say it is impossible", "how can you say it will guarantee", "how is this" "how is that" :msd kabhi tu bhi kuch bol le, khud dimag use kar ke apna point of view bhi dede :yk, you logic is that if it is not impossible then it is true :))) There, I just pwned your logic


At copying, you sure are.

And you are talented at dodging :afridi

But bro, maza nahi aya. refer to what i said to this in previous post :))


But bro, maza to abhi aana start hua hai, aage aage dekhte jao :msd
 
I didn't miss anything, you have been hopping and jumping trying to dodge and run away from me in every post :
Again rubbish and nothing concrete.

Oh you have seen your "nobody" run like lightening . is that your logic? is there a speedometer embedded in your eyes that you were able to gauge his speed?:ksi no wonder you are slow, try again :srini
Lol everything has to be spoon fed to you. Are u saying we cannot tell if a person runs quick by watching him running? :))) can't you see how desperate you are looking now? I have basically owned you and your "logic" every single time. :afridi

Just like you gauged the speed of your "nobody" through your eyes, use that same talent to see the difference between kohli and others :)))
Quite hypocrictical of you. Lol. I gauged his speed in the same way you gauged kohli's.
Oh now tell us for the millionth time that kohli plays the ball in the gap and runs to take doubles which no other person can do :yk you really are a piece.


I haven't seen him play, still I am able to give better logic about him than you, now that's the most embarrasing thing for you
Delusions about you giving "logic" about him. Lol all you have said is that he cant be fitter because he has not played international cricket lol "logic" fail.


Congrats, you just described all your comments :14:
are u trying to be funny? Or are u serious? Sorry its hard to tell because of all the nonsense you have been saying :yk


Nah, I'll wait for your logic first :msd
Yeah good, run away and dodge it like you have been doing to everything.

You are an expert at that
Look who is talking

Seems like your brain has stopped working now, let me tell you how it works, just you saying something is illogical doesn't make something illogical,
And you saying so makes it true. Your self proclamations are visible to all here. Just go through what you have written earlier and you will be ashamed to write anything more.

you have give a counter argument but since you are incapable of it you can't do anything but dodge :msd,
If you could stop selective reading and responding maybe you will see the counter arguments.

so is your "nobody" richer than kohli? :yk2 you still haven't answered this
You didnt even ask it before :)) the answer is i dont know. Lol. How can u or me know if he is richer or whether he is so poor that he cant even afford to get a diet plan (your words, throwing blind punches etc)? We dont even know him or his family personally. Any sane person can understand this. But you have to provide "logics" against everything because its a matter of your ego now :yk


Everything you have posted till now is rubbish, all you can reply is "how can you say it is impossible", "how can you say it will guarantee", "how is this" "how is that" :msd kabhi tu bhi kuch bol le, khud dimag use kar ke apna point of view bhi dede :yk, you logic is that if it is not impossible then it is true :))) There, I just pwned your logic

Lol what? Isnt that exactly what you are doing? If its not impossible then its true. "Its possible for every expensive Instructor to produce 'fittest' players so it must be true that kohli is fittest because he has an expensive instructor". "Its possible that domestic cricket doesn't test the fitness so it must be true that all players who havent played international cricket are not as fit as the ones who have". So on and so forth. There you "Pwned" my logic :))



And you are talented at dodging :afridi
Haven't dodged a thing. Have taken everything head on unlike you who cant even string together a couple of sentences without copying me.


But bro, maza to abhi aana start hua hai, aage aage dekhte jao :msd

Lol nothing to look forward to really. I had completely different impressions of you. But you turned out to be just another unoriginal face in the crowd.
 
Geez for god's sake, it's impossible to compare the fitness of two cricketers without any credible tests. So please stop the fighting guys:noori
 
Geez for god's sake, it's impossible to compare the fitness of two cricketers without any credible tests. So please stop the fighting guys:noori

I agree. You can put a general opinion (not necessarily 100% correct) forward if you have seen both the players playing competitive cricket. Here our carrom_ball is declaring one player less fit when he hasn't even seen him play yet. I would have agreed to disagree if he had seen both the players play. He Defies common sense.
 
Again rubbish and nothing concrete.

Congrats, you defined all your comments again
Lol everything has to be spoon fed to you. Are u saying we cannot tell if a person runs quick by watching him running? :))) can't you see how desperate you are looking now? I have basically owned you and your "logic" every single time. :afridi

So did you see him running against kohli? It's fun destroying your "logic" :)), how do you know he's faster than kohli if you haven't seen him run against the best fielders

Quite hypocrictical of you. Lol. I gauged his speed in the same way you gauged kohli's.
Oh now tell us for the millionth time that kohli plays the ball in the gap and runs to take doubles which no other person can do :yk you really are a piece.

Oh really :afridi so now are you saying anyone who can place the ball in the gap can run twos like kohli? :yk2 changing goalposts gain :afridi

Delusions about you giving "logic" about him. Lol all you have said is that he cant be fitter because he has not played international cricket lol "logic" fail.

And I also gave a good reasoning as why international cricket is the ultimate test, read it again since you are slow :msd

are u trying to be funny? Or are u serious? Sorry its hard to tell because of all the nonsense you have been saying :yk

Nonsense :))), have you read your posts up til now :msd

Yeah good, run away and dodge it like you have been doing to everything.

yeah, I learnt the art of dodging from you :msd
Look who is talking

Yeah, look in the mirror
And you saying so makes it true. Your self proclamations are visible to all here. Just go through what you have written earlier and you will be ashamed to write anything more.

Again your slow comprehension at work here, I am not saying that what ever I have stated is true, I gave my logic and I expected you to give yours, that's how an argument works, but instead you started running away :msd
If you could stop selective reading and responding maybe you will see the counter arguments.

Yeah, no there are no counter arguments from you, even you admitted that it is just your opinion because you saw them, you have no logic to back it up
You didnt even ask it before :)) the answer is i dont know. Lol. How can u or me know if he is richer or whether he is so poor that he cant even afford to get a diet plan (your words, throwing blind punches etc)? We dont even know him or his family personally. Any sane person can understand this. But you have to provide "logics" against everything because its a matter of your ego now :yk

That's why you have hard time understanding anything, I said he can't afford kohli's fitness because I deduced he's not rich, unless you can prove my assumption wrong, my point stands, do you get it now :msd
Lol what? Isnt that exactly what you are doing? If its not impossible then its true. "Its possible for every expensive Instructor to produce 'fittest' players so it must be true that kohli is fittest because he has an expensive instructor". "Its possible that domestic cricket doesn't test the fitness so it must be true that all players who havent played international cricket are not as fit as the ones who have". So on and so forth. There you "Pwned" my logic :))

Again missing the point as usual, you should pay more attention in the logic class, everything I have stated till now is my reasoning for claiming that your "nobody" is not good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence as kohli, to pwn my logic you have counter my logic first :msd

Haven't dodged a thing. Have taken everything head on unlike you who cant even string together a couple of sentences without copying me.

Really, look back at your posts first
Lol nothing to look forward to really. I had completely different impressions of you. But you turned out to be just another unoriginal face in the crowd.
I have the right impression about you from the beginning, if you think I will get tired of replying then you are mistaken, I can go on for a year, I gave you the opportunity to end it above but no, you had to be cocky, so be it :msd
 
Congrats, you defined all your comments again
Lol the same old rubbish

So did you see him running against kohli? It's fun destroying your "logic" :)), how do you know he's faster than kohli if you haven't seen him run against the best fielders
Lol @ "destroyed" . its actually logic fail for the umpteenth time on your part. I'm almost expecting it now from you. Its very hard for you to understand a simple thing that i have seen both of them play and i feel kamran is fitter. You haven't seen both of them so you don't even know and are just running around in the dark.



Oh really :afridi so now are you saying anyone who can place the ball in the gap can run twos like kohli? :yk2 changing goalposts gain :afridi

Eh?? Isnt that what kohli does? Are you saying he hits it straight to the fielders and still runs twos? You are now Being the perfectly blind ****** that you are. :yk


And I also gave a good reasoning as why international cricket is the ultimate test, read it again since you are slow :msd

"Good reasoning" :)) apart from running between the wickets you have nothing to say. All your reasoning falls flat Anyways because you haven't seen both of them play.


Nonsense :))), have you read your posts up til now :msd
I have. Unfortunately you have only read portions of them selectively.



yeah, I learnt the art of dodging from you :msd
Good. Among all the others lessons that i am teaching you, let it be one more. :msd


Yeah, look in the mirror
Have you pasted your picture on it? :yk
Yeah its just as childish a reply as yours :)

Again your slow comprehension at work here, I am not saying that what ever I have stated is true, I gave my logic and I expected you to give yours, that's how an argument works, but instead you started running away :msd
Ohh now adopting a milder approach. Haha have you lost your carrom balls now? :))) you were always saying everything as an absolute fact so dont take a u-turn now. Some of the logics that you provided were not even relevant. This debate was about two players out of which you had not seen one. You simply could have refused to comment on the player i mentioned because of not having seen him. That would have been the correct and obvious way. But you turned the debate into international vs domestic which it clearly wasnt supposed to be.

Yeah, no there are no counter arguments from you, even you admitted that it is just your opinion because you saw them, you have no logic to back it up
There are no arguments to counter. Just illogical sentences from you. What you are saying is also just your opinion and you have already accepted that your opinion could be wrong in this very post. The first thing you have to do before commenting on a player is actually watching them. Thats the biggest logic which you are not able to comprehend.


That's why you have hard time understanding anything, I said he can't afford kohli's fitness because I deduced he's not rich, unless you can prove my assumption wrong, my point stands, do you get it now :msd
You are stooping to new lows of nonsense now. The one who makes an assumption has to prove it. Everything yoh have said so far is an assumption from international vs domestic fitness to expensive instructors making players "fittest" to kamran ghulam not being able to afford a fitness or diet plan. Can you prove your assumption right? All you have to say is he doesnt play cricket so he must not afford a diet plan.


Again missing the point as usual, you should pay more attention in the logic class, everything I have stated till now is my reasoning for claiming that your "nobody" is not good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence as kohli, to pwn my logic you have counter my logic first :msd
For that you have to provide a sound logic first. I have already countered whatever "logics" you have given without even seeing the players.



Really, look back at your posts first
You need that more tham me.

I have the right impression about you from the beginning,
Good that you understand my greatness :afridi

if you think I will get tired of replying then you are mistaken, I can go on for a year,
No no i know you are very dheet and sticky like a chewing gum.

I gave you the opportunity to end it above but no, you had to be cocky, so be it :msd

But bro, You were basically begging me to end it and trying to save your face while doing it. No need to make excuses now :))
 
I told him to end it, but no he wants to go on, so he will get a befitting reply :afridi

So now you are complaining about me not stopping to other posters as well haha. If you want it so bad, i am giving you an opportunity to agree to disagree and just end the discussion now. Your call.
 
Lol the same old rubbish

Lol same old rubbish

Lol @ "destroyed" . its actually logic fail for the umpteenth time on your part. I'm almost expecting it now from you. Its very hard for you to understand a simple thing that i have seen both of them play and i feel kamran is fitter. You haven't seen both of them so you don't even know and are just running around in the dark.
Still don't see any counter argument, I don't want to know about your feelings about kamran, bring out your logic if you have one:msd


Eh?? Isnt that what kohli does? Are you saying he hits it straight to the fielders and still runs twos? You are now Being the perfectly blind ****** that you are.

Are you that slow that you don't understand the point or you don't want to :yk2

"Good reasoning" :)) apart from running between the wickets you have nothing to say. All your reasoning falls flat Anyways because you haven't seen both of them play.

Apart for your feelings, I haven't seen you say anything at all
I have. Unfortunately you have only read portions of them selectively.

Really what was your argument again? :afridi

Good. Among all the others lessons that i am teaching you, let it be one more. :msd

So, you admit to dodging and running, pwned :)))

Have you pasted your picture on it? :yk
Yeah its just as childish a reply as yours :)

Again look in the mirror :yk2
Ohh now adopting a milder approach. Haha have you lost your carrom balls now? :))) you were always saying everything as an absolute fact so dont take a u-turn now. Some of the logics that you provided were not even relevant. This debate was about two players out of which you had not seen one. You simply could have refused to comment on the player i mentioned because of not having seen him. That would have been the correct and obvious way. But you turned the debate into international vs domestic which it clearly wasnt supposed to be.

Okay have become mad just like your name :afridi, it is not my fault if your comprehension level is zero
There are no arguments to counter. Just illogical sentences from you. What you are saying is also just your opinion and you have already accepted that your opinion could be wrong in this very post. The first thing you have to do before commenting on a player is actually watching them. Thats the biggest logic which you are not able to comprehend.

Again your comprehension skills at display, I didn't accept that my opinion is wrong, I challenged you to prove me wrong, but alas I am expecting too much from you
You are stooping to new lows of nonsense now. The one who makes an assumption has to prove it. Everything yoh have said so far is an assumption from international vs domestic fitness to expensive instructors making players "fittest" to kamran ghulam not being able to afford a fitness or diet plan. Can you prove your assumption right? All you have to say is he doesnt play cricket so he must not afford a diet plan.

At least I have said something, what have you said till now except repeating nonsense
For that you have to provide a sound logic first. I have already countered whatever "logics" you have given without even seeing the players.

Did you counter my logics in the lala land, the same place where your nobody is fitter than kohli :)))


You need that more tham me.

Still waiting for something substantial or logical from you, too much to expect, is it? :afridi
Good that you understand my greatness :afridi

You even misunderstood this comment :))), no wonder you need some comprehension lessons :afridi

No no i know you are very dheet and sticky like a chewing gum.

Oh look at that pot calling the kettle :))
But bro, You were basically begging me to end it and trying to save your face while doing it. No need to make excuses now :))


Is it, was I begging ya :)), how many marks did you score in english comprehension :ksi
 
So now you are complaining about me not stopping to other posters as well haha. If you want it so bad, i am giving you an opportunity to agree to disagree and just end the discussion now. Your call.

Lol no chance in hell, you don't know who you messed with, you will learn a life lesson from this thread :))
 
So now you are complaining about me not stopping to other posters as well haha. If you want it so bad, i am giving you an opportunity to agree to disagree and just end the discussion now. Your call.

Btw why are you begging me to stop? :yk2
 
Btw why are you begging me to stop? :yk2

Lol first you tried to hide behind other poster's words and asked me to end it indirectly.
Then you complained about me to other posters that i am not stopping. And when i saw you wanting to end it so badly, i tried be the bigger human and gave you a chance to put the ego aside and agree to disagree. I dont have ego problems so i am still open to ending this useless discussion. And After all this i am the one who is begging? You really have made it an ego issue while i was just having a banter with you. It wont end if you dont want it to.
if you want to come to PP everyday and carry on with this thing, no one is going to stop you.
 
Lol no chance in hell, you don't know who you messed with, you will learn a life lesson from this thread :))

:facepalm: and all this while i thought i was talking to an adult. Such childish words. "Oh hey see i am being a keyboard warrior, i will wage a war on internet and then i can sleep better at night".

its very unfortunate that you have made PP just a thing to satisfy your ego rather than having meaningful discussions.
 
Still don't see any counter argument, I don't want to know about your feelings about kamran, bring out your logic if you have one:msd

I already have. But you choose to ignore it. Boy you must have given your teacher a hard time in school. You cant even understand a simple sentence :yk


Are you that slow that you don't understand the point or you don't want to

You have no point. Just non sense put together to stay in the discussion

Apart for your feelings, I haven't seen you say anything at all
Yes same here then. I know you are a crazy fan boy of kohli but even he would give u a smack if he sees you talking like this :))

Really what was your argument again?
Congrats this just proved how dumb you are. :))



So, you admit to dodging and running, pwned :)))
And you admit to dodging and running by learning it??? Pwned :)))


Again look in the mirror :yk2
At least i can look in the mirror and not get scared :)))

Okay have become mad just like your name :afridi, it is not my fault if your comprehension level is zero
Oh the irony !!!

Again your comprehension skills at display, I didn't accept that my opinion is wrong, I challenged you to prove me wrong, but alas I am expecting too much from you
I didn't say you accepted your opinion is wrong. I said you accepted it 'could' be wrong. Which you really did. Its actually Comprehension fail on your part. Pwned again :)))

At least I have said something, what have you said till now except repeating nonsense
You have said something? Lol blabbering rubbish doesnt count. If i am repeating something , its just because you are choosing to ignore it.

Did you counter my logics in the lala land, the same place where your nobody is fitter than kohli :)))
What logic? :)))

[/QUOTE]Still waiting for something substantial or logical from you, too much to expect, is it? :afridi[/QUOTE]
Yaar trko gold ka lota denge tab bhi trko bheek hi maangni hai :))) you are literally floating in the sea of logic i have provided and still you are saying you are waiting :))

You even misunderstood this comment :))), no wonder you need some comprehension lessons :afridi
Its actually hard to tell when you are joking and when you are being serious because of the nonsense you are dishing out


Oh look at that pot calling the kettle :))
What lol you are the one who has made it an issue of his ego, not me lol you are sticky like an unwanted chewing gum


Is it, was I begging ya :)), how many marks did you score in english comprehension :ksi

You couldnt ask me to stop directly because of the egoistic person you are. So you used the words of other poster. These childish things are very obvious. Grow up.
 
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:facepalm: and all this while i thought i was talking to an adult. Such childish words. "Oh hey see i am being a keyboard warrior, i will wage a war on internet and then i can sleep better at night".

its very unfortunate that you have made PP just a thing to satisfy your ego rather than having meaningful discussions.

Oh the irony, you talking like an adult lol
 
I already have. But you choose to ignore it. Boy you must have given your teacher a hard time in school. You cant even understand a simple sentence :yk




You have no point. Just non sense put together to stay in the discussion


Yes same here then. I know you are a crazy fan boy of kohli but even he would give u a smack if he sees you talking like this :))


Congrats this just proved how dumb you are. :))




And you admit to dodging and running by learning it??? Pwned :)))



At least i can look in the mirror and not get scared :)))


Oh the irony !!!


I didn't say you accepted your opinion is wrong. I said you accepted it 'could' be wrong. Which you really did. Its actually Comprehension fail on your part. Pwned again :)))


You have said something? Lol blabbering rubbish doesnt count. If i am repeating something , its just because you are choosing to ignore it.


What logic? :)))

Still waiting for something substantial or logical from you, too much to expect, is it? :afridi
Yaar trko gold ka lota denge tab bhi trko bheek hi maangni hai :))) you are literally floating in the sea of logic i have provided and still you are saying you are waiting :))


Its actually hard to tell when you are joking and when you are being serious because of the nonsense you are dishing out



What lol you are the one who has made it an issue of his ego, not me lol you are sticky like an unwanted chewing gum




You couldnt ask me to stop directly because of the egoistic person you are. So you used the words of other poster. These childish things are very obvious. Grow up.


Oh you already made a logical argument did you? Let's recap

Me: A player who has played international cricket shouldn't be compared with an international cricketer
You: But I saw both and I have feelings for kamran :))
Me: He can't afford kohli's fitness
You: How do you know? How do you this? How do you that?
Me: :facepalm:

Try again junior :srini
 
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Lol first you tried to hide behind other poster's words and asked me to end it indirectly.
Then you complained about me to other posters that i am not stopping. And when i saw you wanting to end it so badly, i tried be the bigger human and gave you a chance to put the ego aside and agree to disagree. I dont have ego problems so i am still open to ending this useless discussion. And After all this i am the one who is begging? You really have made it an ego issue while i was just having a banter with you. It wont end if you dont want it to.
if you want to come to PP everyday and carry on with this thing, no one is going to stop you.

bete weren't you the one who started crying about my torture :))) , you were like oh I didn't think you were like this :(( :afridi
 
Oh you already made a logical argument did you? Let's recap

Me: A player who has NOT played international cricket shouldn't be compared with an international cricketer
You: But I saw both and I have feelings for kamran :))
Me: He can't afford kohli's fitness
You: How do you know? How do you this? How do you that?
Me: :facepalm:

Try again junior :srini

fixed :asif
 
Lol first you tried to hide behind other poster's words and asked me to end it indirectly.
Then you complained about me to other posters that i am not stopping. And when i saw you wanting to end it so badly, i tried be the bigger human and gave you a chance to put the ego aside and agree to disagree. I dont have ego problems so i am still open to ending this useless discussion. And After all this i am the one who is begging? You really have made it an ego issue while i was just having a banter with you. It wont end if you dont want it to.
if you want to come to PP everyday and carry on with this thing, no one is going to stop you.

lol you tried to be the bigger man lmao, anyway, I give you one last chance to end this stupid discussion (agree to disagree), anymore "begging" or other stupid comments and we will continue this for ages :srini
 
Oh you already made a logical argument did you? Let's recap

Me: A player who has played international cricket shouldn't be compared with an international cricketer
You: But I saw both and I have feelings for kamran :))
Me: He can't afford kohli's fitness
You: How do you know? How do you this? How do you that?
Me: :facepalm:

Try again junior :srini

That had me in stitches. :))) Where did you get that from though?
Let me rephrase the conversation

Me : kamran is fitter than anybody in subcontinent from what i have seen.

You: he is a nobody, he hasn't played cricket at intl. level. He cant be good enough. I have not seen him play but he cant be good enough because my boy kohli takes quick singles (100 times used this example).

Me: its not just about taking quick singles against superior international fielders. Fitness is also about bowling long spells, playing long innings, fielding well throughout the course of a match while not getting tired, having low body fat etc etc domestic cricket does test all this.

You: no no i just used it as an example..kohli is fittest because he has an expensive fitness trainer.

Me: lol expensive instructor doesnt always produce fittest cricketers. Any instructor who knows what he is doing can give you best possible results

You : nooooo your nobody cannot even afford a diet plan

Me: how do you know that?

You : because he doesnt play international cricket.

Me : his family might be able support him. We cant comment because neither you nor me know him personally.

You : no no no you arent logical. I am logical. I pwned you. I am going to teach you a lesson. No chance in hell i will stop. I can go on for a year. You dont know who you messed with. I will give u befitting replies. I will reply to you so hard that the keyboard breaks and the keys pop out. And then i will throw the keys at you but not stop.

Me : :)) grow up buddy
 
bete weren't you the one who started crying about my torture :))) , you were like oh I didn't think you were like this :(( :afridi

Again comprehension problems. The torture was actually because you can't comrehend anything and its so hard to make you understand anything. And i said i didnt think you were so childish, i had thought of you as a sensible poster.
 
lol you tried to be the bigger man lmao, anyway, I give you one last chance to end this stupid discussion (agree to disagree), anymore "begging" or other stupid comments and we will continue this for ages :srini
You really didnt like that begging comment did you. Hahahah sorry for that.

No man dont "give" me a chance :))) Lets say the discussion is over because both of us have said everything we needed to. :afridi
 
That had me in stitches. :))) Where did you get that from though?
Let me re-rephrase the conversation

Me : kamran is fitter than anybody in subcontinent from what i have seen.

You: he is a nobody, he hasn't played cricket at intl. level. He cant be good enough. I have not seen him play but he cant be good enough because my boy kohli takes quick singles (100 times used this example).

Me: its not just about taking quick singles against superior international fielders. Fitness is also about bowling long spells, playing long innings, fielding well throughout the course of a match while not getting tired, having low body fat etc etc domestic cricket does test all this.

You: no no i just used it as an example..kohli is fittest because he has an expensive fitness trainer.

Me: lol expensive instructor doesnt always produce fittest cricketers. Any instructor who knows what he is doing can give you best possible results

You : nooooo your nobody cannot even afford a diet plan

Me: how do you know that?

You : because he doesnt play international cricket.

Me : his family might be able support him. We cant comment because neither you nor me know him personally.

You : no no no you arent logical. I am logical. I pwned you. I am going to teach you a lesson. No chance in hell i will stop. I can go on for a year. You dont know who you messed with. I will give u befitting replies. I will reply to you so hard that the keyboard breaks and the keys pop out. And then i will throw the keys at you but not stop.

Me : :)) grow up buddy

Let me rephrase the conversation


You: kamran is fitter than anybody in subcontinent from what i have seen.

Me: Since your guy hasn't played international cricket, so he shouldn't be compared with kohli let alone rating him ahead of kohli

You: but but I have seen kammy, he's faster than lightening

Me: Have you seen him against the best fielders in the world, if not then you can't claim him to be faster than kohli, also kohli is one of the richest cricketers in the world, your guy can't afford kohli's fitness

you: how do you know he's not rich? expensive instructor doesnt always produce fittest cricketers. Any instructor who knows what he is doing can give you best possible results

Me : well duh, kohli is one of the richest cricketer in the world, it is an easy deduction, also better fitness instructors does help in attaining better fitness,

You: how do you know that?

Me : :facepalm: are you for real

You : his family might be able support him. We cant comment because neither you nor me know him personally.

Me : Unless you can prove my assumption wrong, my point stands

You : :how do you know, how is this, how is that

Me : :facepalm: is this guy for real? don't just grow up, get enrolled in some logic class

And now its over :afridi
 
Let me rephrase the conversation


You: kamran is fitter than anybody in subcontinent from what i have seen.

Me: Since your guy hasn't played international cricket, so he shouldn't be compared with kohli let alone rating him ahead of kohli

You: but but I have seen kammy, he's faster than lightening

Me: Have you seen him against the best fielders in the world, if not then you can't claim him to be faster than kohli, also kohli is one of the richest cricketers in the world, your guy can't afford kohli's fitness

you: how do you know he's not rich? expensive instructor doesnt always produce fittest cricketers. Any instructor who knows what he is doing can give you best possible results

Me : well duh, kohli is one of the richest cricketer in the world, it is an easy deduction, also better fitness instructors does help in attaining better fitness,

You: how do you know that?

Me : :facepalm: are you for real

You : his family might be able support him. We cant comment because neither you nor me know him personally.

Me : Unless you can prove my assumption wrong, my point stands

You : :how do you know, how is this, how is that

Me : :facepalm: is this guy for real? don't just grow up, get enrolled in some logic class

And now its over :afridi

alright. I wont rephrase it again. So it ends here. See you in some other thread :))

Note: Dear viewers please read this very conversation in which our dear carrom_ball has put his sweat and blood to make it as one sided in his favour as possible and judge for yourself who makes more sense even in this fairly biased "supposed" conversation which according to him favours him :yk :)))
 
alright. I wont rephrase it again. So it ends here. See you in some other thread :))

Note: Dear viewers please read this very conversation in which our dear carrom_ball has put his sweat and blood to make it as one sided in his favour as possible and judge for yourself who makes more sense even in this fairly biased "supposed" conversation which according to him favours him :yk :)))

I made it very fair and accurate, btw viewers don't care about this stupid discussion, why are you so worried about the viewers? I could have shown you in even worse light if I included your childish comments like " oh you don't know what you have got yourself into" or " I am just getting started" or "begging" :)) Anyone with even half a brain can tell that you don't make sense, like I said make a poll between you kammy boy and kohli and see the results :afridi :yk
 
I made it very fair and accurate, btw viewers don't care about this stupid discussion, why are you so worried about the viewers? I could have shown you in even worse light if I included your childish comments like " oh you don't know what you have got yourself into" or " I am just getting started" or "begging" :)) Anyone with even half a brain can tell that you don't make sense, like I said make a poll between you kammy boy and kohli and see the results :afridi :yk

:))) i wasnt even talking to you there so you didn't have any need to reply. You shouldn't be worried about what i say to the viewers.

When i said you dont know what you have got yourself into ,it was just banter and i only said it once because it was a joke. While the way you tried to wage a war here vowing again and again to teach me a "lesson of my life" for "messing" with you :)) was way OTT and doesn't look good at all. We aren't enemies, are we? Unless you think we are.

And i have already told you about the poll thing. Not many people know about domestic players so the poll will not show accurate results.

Anyways its futile to continue with this.
 
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