Arsenal FC | 2025/26 Season

[Mamoon]

You have to admit. If Arteta fails to win a major Trophy next season, then he's Toast?

The definition of failure is not black and white. If Arsenal implodes and finishes outside the top 3, then yes you can review his position. However, if Arsenal fight for the league again and fall short by a few points and finished 2nd, you review the areas of improvement and go again next season. Sacking manager is not always the right decision or something that yields success.

 

[Mamoon]

But but but Arsenal should sign Musiala

But but but I don't know why I haven't received a mail in Alum Rock mailbox from Arsenal, confirming my position as Arsenal's new Sporting Director

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but the definition of failure is not in black and white

More hilarious bakwas from Arteta worshipper.

5 seaaons no trophies, no cup finals - is failure.

But but if he competes and doesn't win he should be reviewed

there you go ladies in gentlemen that's the definition of standard in thr gutter

No other big club city, Liverpool, Bayern, PSG, Real, Barca would tolerate such failure

Arteta should go to SPL and take his retard followers with him, that's his and their level

 

[Mamoon]

@Amjid Javed

Please repeat after me:

"Although I don't think Arteta is good enough to win the league for Arsenal, I will be extremely happy to see him to do it. I will be extremely happy to be proved wrong and my agenda is not more important than the success of the club"

 

[topspin]

Not sure this bloke is worth £70m

You not convinced?

 

[Theo_14]

Klopp had a worse team than Arteta but won everything.

Klopp when becoming Liverpool manager didn’t win a major trophy with the players he inherited though? He won his first major trophy almost 4 years into his managerial career and first PL title 5 years into his Liverpool managerial career? He also had time and investment funds on his side; if anything Klopp should have won a few more major trophies given he’s not rookie manager like Mikel and has a far more solid CV (ie Success at Dortmund) and more experience than Mikel.

For me, my expectations have been realistic. Arteta had to fix the squad he inherited, change the culture to competing against top sides, and now once he finally addresses the LW, Striker and playmaker situation (which are crucial to winning major trophies) he has to deliver next season with trophies. Otherwise he must leave, this side should have won a PL in past 2-3 seasons.

Also, no space for Arteta posters. Still loyal to Afridi

 

[aboveandbeyond]

The definition of failure is not black and white. If Arsenal implodes and finishes outside the top 3, then yes you can review his position. However, if Arsenal fight for the league again and fall short by a few points and finished 2nd, you review the areas of improvement and go again next season. Sacking manager is not always the right decision or something that yields success.

Finishing as a Also ran means nothing. Unless you win, everything else is irrelevant.

Arteta has to win major silverware next season. Otherwise, it will be near a billion spent with one solitary FAcup in six season's

 

[Markhor]

Gyokeres has an impressive goalscoring record and he certainly improves Arsenal more than Benjamin Seskey (who's not even prolific in the German Bundesliga) would, but to claim he's the best #9 in the world on the back of performances in the mediocre Portuguese League is fantasyland stuff.

You can assess very quickly from the clips that a) he won't get that time and space in England, and b) some of the Portuguese league defending is diabolical. His record is also boosted by a ton of penalties.

That said he's probably the closest thing to certainty in a market devoid of quality strikers. He also has some familiarity with English football.

I think you are confusing him with a certain retarded Uruguayan who will miss 20 clear chances by the time Gyokeres gets to his 20th goal of the season in Dec/Jan.

Is there really any need for such insults in a week where his teammate has just died ? You have zero class or dignity as a human being. I hope you bring up your children with more decency than how you conduct yourself online.

 

[Mamoon]

Gyokeres has an impressive goalscoring record and he certainly improves Arsenal more than Benjamin Seskey (who's not even prolific in the German Bundesliga) would, but to claim he's the best #9 in the world on the back of performances in the mediocre Portuguese League is fantasyland stuff.

You can assess very quickly from the clips that a) he won't get that time and space in England, and b) some of the Portuguese league defending is diabolical. His record is also boosted by a ton of penalties.

That said he's probably the closest thing to certainty in a market devoid of quality strikers. He also has some familiarity with English football.



Is there really any need for such insults in a week where his teammate has just died ? You have zero class or dignity as a human being. I hope you bring up your children with more decency than how you conduct yourself online.

Won’t get “time and space” in England but scored a hat-trick vs City.

Also, please save me the emotional gyaan. The tragic death of Jota has nothing to do with criticizing any Liverpool player.

Moreover, I would request Liverpool fans not to milk his death in case you have a bad season. The excuse that the players were mentally impacted by his death will not fly. I have a strong fear Liverpool fans will milk his death to protect the team.

 

[Rana]

You not convinced?

Bro I’ve been watching his videos obviously because he’s on the radar now.

I’m not going by his stats in Sporting. Seen football for over 2 decades to see what a player’s quality is.

Maybe £70m is the £30m in today’s market when you had guys like Peak Torres, Drogba and RVP (who were all worth double if not more than £30m in that era). But it’s still a lot of money. The guy needs to hit the ground running. Looks like he gets easy dribbles at defenders in Portugal but we know this will never be the case in the Prem.

It’s definitely a good signing so I can’t complain.

 

[Mamoon]

Klopp when becoming Liverpool manager didn’t win a major trophy with the players he inherited though? He won his first major trophy almost 4 years into his managerial career and first PL title 5 years into his Liverpool managerial career? He also had time and investment funds on his side; if anything Klopp should have won a few more major trophies given he’s not rookie manager like Mikel and has a far more solid CV (ie Success at Dortmund) and more experience than Mikel.

Beautiful shut up call. Good to see an Arsenal fan having the spine to stand up for his team.

Not only did Klopp fail to win more than one league title which he should he have, he also produced two rubbish seasons (2020/21 & 2022/23) with squads capable of winning the league.

That was as big as failure as not winning more than one league title.

 

[Mamoon]

But but but but he will struggle in the PL.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

@Amjid Javed is the only Gooner on here who gives constructive criticism of the Team he supports when he has to. And to be fair to him, he's been spot on majority of the time.

 

[topspin]

Bro I’ve been watching his videos obviously because he’s on the radar now.

I’m not going by his stats in Sporting. Seen football for over 2 decades to see what a player’s quality is.

Maybe £70m is the £30m in today’s market when you had guys like Peak Torres, Drogba and RVP (who were all worth double if not more than £30m in that era). But it’s still a lot of money. The guy needs to hit the ground running. Looks like he gets easy dribbles at defenders in Portugal but we know this will never be the case in the Prem.

It’s definitely a good signing so I can’t complain.

I know what you mean. He doesn’t tick all the boxes and certainly doesn’t fit the current system adopted by Arteta anywhere near like a glove. This is because his aerial game is weak, which is a concern for two reasons. Firstly, Arsenal rely heavily on goals form set pieces and crosses from Saka and secondly he isn’t able to lay off the ball like other elite CFs can

As you say, he hasn’t been tested enough against the top sides, mainly due to the league that he plays in.

I respect the top 5 leagues but the Portuguese league is just asss. There have been a fair few players who come from Portugal and have struggled to the PL. This is expected because the difference in the two leagues is huge. Portuguese League is like the 7th best league in Europe, so it’s not exactly the most impressive.

This is a real eye opener:



I know he’s not a forward but let’s not also forget how bad Fabio Vieria has been in the PL for Arsenal as well.

So I would say he’s worth £50m to £60m max.

I agree with AJ on his 18-20 goal prediction in the PL, should Arsenal secure his signing in this transfer window.

 

[topspin]

But but but but he will struggle in the PL.

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I hope you end up being right on him should we sign him but let’s not get carried away just yet.

 

[topspin]

Is there really any need for such insults in a week where his teammate has just died ? You have zero class or dignity as a human being. I hope you bring up your children with more decency than how you conduct yourself online.

What does this Nunez being a “retarded Uruguayan” have anything to do with what happened to Jota?

As football fans, we’re all struggling to come to terms with what happened to the Portuguese forward but I’m sorry to say this is a really poor post from a champion poster.

 

[topspin]

Klopp when becoming Liverpool manager didn’t win a major trophy with the players he inherited though? He won his first major trophy almost 4 years into his managerial career and first PL title 5 years into his Liverpool managerial career? He also had time and investment funds on his side; if anything Klopp should have won a few more major trophies given he’s not rookie manager like Mikel and has a far more solid CV (ie Success at Dortmund) and more experience than Mikel.

For me, my expectations have been realistic. Arteta had to fix the squad he inherited, change the culture to competing against top sides, and now once he finally addresses the LW, Striker and playmaker situation (which are crucial to winning major trophies) he has to deliver next season with trophies. Otherwise he must leave, this side should have won a PL in past 2-3 seasons.

Also, no space for Arteta posters. Still loyal to Afridi

No point trying to explain football to someone who acquired his knowledge of the game from the Alum Rock Mirpuri Cab League.

 

[Theo_14]

No point trying to explain football to someone who acquired his knowledge of the game from the Alum Rock Mirpuri Cab League.

Me and @KingKhanWC go way back. A very knowledgeable poster who I’ve got a lot respect for.

Also - if anything, if anyone is challenging why Arsenal haven’t won a trophy then it’s that itself is progression because at least now Arsenal fans aren’t engaged in narratives of how we no longer are competing or how we have declined. We are now debating either why they haven’t won a major trophy yet or when they will.

 

[Amjid Javed]

What was the purpose of bring up klopps record in England?

If you look at his record in the PL just 1 title was complete failure. He should have won 3 or 4.

Arteta has won fk all in 6 seasons, yet if he ends up with 1 PL in 8 or 9 seaaons. The Artetasexuals will be proclaiming it as greatest thing in PL history.

Also this nonsense about Arteta changing the club's culture? The club is happy buying a dog naming it "Win" after bottling the league. On top of that the club hasn't won a trophy for 5 seasons and their is zero accountability for not winning anything. Manager given a new contract for failure, mediocre players on high wages. The club is happy making CL, happy making excuses as is most of the fanbase.

If Arsenal had a better culture, they would have winning mentality in the dressing room, also in the fan base. But you have people every season making excuses, it's no wonder rivals call the club netflix FC. Supposedly the Arsenal dressing room was "toxic" so toxic that the team won a trophy, so toxic that players who have left have had success elsewhere.

All Arsenal is now is a team which I'd managed by someone whose ego makes him want to micro manage everything and is one of reasons why they keep failing.

Amazing culture lead by an arm waving captain, who dissapears when it matters most every season. then is full of excuses at end of every season.

All other big clubs make failure accountable, which inturn makes the players respect the values of a big club and they understand they need to deliver.

The mediocre culture at Arsenal is such players are happy with not winning anything.

Amount of delusion and exaggeration most of fan base come up with just failure is pathetic as well.

You didn't see Arsenal behave like this under GG or under Arsene wenger in his 1st half of his managerial reign. That's when this club had a culture and values.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Me and @KingKhanWC go way back. A very knowledgeable poster who I’ve got a lot respect for.

Also - if anything, if anyone is challenging why Arsenal haven’t won a trophy then it’s that itself is progression because at least now Arsenal fans aren’t engaged in narratives of how we no longer are competing or how we have declined. We are now debating either why they haven’t won a major trophy yet or when they will.

Arsenal have reached a point where winning major trophies is the only progression. The Premier League is now more competitive than ever, last season showed how difficult results were to predict.

Imho Arsenal have a first XI to win the league but not squad depth. The manager also makes strange decisions and his style of play to me is not clear, perhaps he can change depending on opposition. Its a tough start to the season but can be an advantage if results come early. It will be an interesting season as Arteta is under serious pressure to deliver now.

Appreciate the kinds words, hope all is good on your side. Some chaps take football too seriously, it harms themselves lol.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arsenal have reached a point where winning major trophies is the only progression. The Premier League is now more competitive than ever, last season showed how difficult results were to predict.

100% spot on

Instead we had the following celebrations last season from the fans with zero standards

"we have drawn at Anfield 3 seasons in a row"

"we have drawn at eithad 2 seasons in a row"

"We progressed in CL"

This is the embarrassing level of celebrations now from the fan base in general and vast majority of Arsenal fans on this forum.

Then when it's challenging "your a fake fan"

"You have an agenda"

My stance is clear

Either win the league or CL (europa league before that) - (which I will give credit for if it happens). Before any of the retards pipe up, Arsenal haven't won it under this manager, so I've rightly criticised. I deal in facts, not hypothetical scenarios.

If the manager doesn't deliver he can fk off back to City to put cones out, or back to rangers or Everton. I want a manager that wins leagues and European trophies.

 

[Mamoon]

@Amjid Javed

Please repeat after me:

"Although I don't think Arteta is good enough to win the league for Arsenal, I will be extremely happy to see him to do it. I will be extremely happy to be proved wrong and my agenda is not more important than the success of the club"

 

[Mamoon]

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I hope you end up being right on him should we sign him but let’s not get carried away just yet.

I wouldn’t blame people for having a little skepticism considering he plays in Portugal, but considering the way he plays, his physique and some of the quality of his goals, I don’t see how that doesn’t translate to the PL notwithstanding the fact that he scored a hat-trick vs City.

When Haaland emerged in the Norwegian league and was heavily linked with United, a lot of United fans were dismissive of his scoring record because it’s Norway.

Similarly, if Arsenal had decided to sign Isak when he was playing in Sweden, a lot of fans would have been dismissive of the signing.

I don’t see how he doesn’t succeeded. He has got everything in his locker. The failure of some other players from the Portuguese league shouldn’t be used against him.

 

[Markhor]

What does this Nunez being a “retarded Uruguayan” have anything to do with what happened to Jota?

As football fans, we’re all struggling to come to terms with what happened to the Portuguese forward but I’m sorry to say this is a really poor post from a champion poster.

1) If one of your close friends was killed a few days ago (God forbid), would you be happy for me to call you a "retard" ?

2) Players have been called idiots or donkeys for centuries, but personal insults like labelling them "retards" or "mentally disabled" is not football banter or normal leg pulling (which I love) - it's crass (especially coming from a Dr) and something I hope most human beings grow out of by age 10.

3) Events of last week is a reminder none of us know when we'll draw our last breath. Criticising players is fine but I cannot fathom why in this internet age grown men think it's okay to get so personal, even stooping to attack them when they're at a low point in their lives.

I don't understand why you guys get so personal with one another on this thread, and you support the same club !

The only people who deserve personal attacks are politicians like Netanyahu who's killed tens of thousands of innocents. In that case, fire away !

 

[Mamoon]

1) If one of your close friends was killed a few days ago (God forbid), would you be happy for me to call you a "retard" ?

2) Players have been called idiots or donkeys for centuries, but personal insults like labelling them "retards" or "mentally disabled" is not football banter or normal leg pulling (which I love) - it's crass (especially coming from a Dr) and something I hope most human beings grow out of by age 10.

3) Events of last week is a reminder none of us know when we'll draw our last breath. Criticising players is fine but I cannot fathom why in this internet age grown men think it's okay to get so personal, even stooping to attack them when they're at a low point in their lives.

I don't understand why you guys get so personal with one another on this thread, and you support the same club !

The only people who deserve personal attacks are politicians like Netanyahu who's killed tens of thousands of innocents. In that case, fire away !

Humble request to all Liverpool fans: please don’t disrespect Jota’s death by using it as a shield to protect themselves from criticism of the club and the players.

Liverpool fans are on the wrong foot already. Some of them are criticizing Diaz for pushing for a move away from Liverpool just days after Jota’s death.

Absolutely ridiculous behavior by the fans.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

1) If one of your close friends was killed a few days ago (God forbid), would you be happy for me to call you a "retard" ?

2) Players have been called idiots or donkeys for centuries, but personal insults like labelling them "retards" or "mentally disabled" is not football banter or normal leg pulling (which I love) - it's crass (especially coming from a Dr) and something I hope most human beings grow out of by age 10.

3) Events of last week is a reminder none of us know when we'll draw our last breath. Criticising players is fine but I cannot fathom why in this internet age grown men think it's okay to get so personal, even stooping to attack them when they're at a low point in their lives.

I don't understand why you guys get so personal with one another on this thread, and you support the same club !

The only people who deserve personal attacks are politicians like Netanyahu who's killed tens of thousands of innocents. In that case, fire away !

POTW

 

[KingKhanWC]

100% spot on

Instead we had the following celebrations last season from the fans with zero standards

"we have drawn at Anfield 3 seasons in a row"

"we have drawn at eithad 2 seasons in a row"

"We progressed in CL"

This is the embarrassing level of celebrations now from the fan base in general and vast majority of Arsenal fans on this forum.

Then when it's challenging "your a fake fan"

"You have an agenda"

My stance is clear

Either win the league or CL (europa league before that) - (which I will give credit for if it happens). Before any of the retards pipe up, Arsenal haven't won it under this manager, so I've rightly criticised. I deal in facts, not hypothetical scenarios.

If the manager doesn't deliver he can fk off back to City to put cones out, or back to rangers or Everton. I want a manager that wins leagues and European trophies.

There are no more excuses. If Arsenal don’t win one of the big two this season, it’s down to the manager but some fans will be happy if he stays until 2030 without winning these

 

[Mamoon]

I love how Liverpool and United fans are more obsessed with Arsenal winning the league than Arsenal fans themselves

 

[Mamoon]

@Amjid Javed

Please repeat after me:

"Although I don't think Arteta is good enough to win the league for Arsenal, I will be extremely happy to see him to do it. I will be extremely happy to be proved wrong and my agenda is not more important than the success of the club"

@Amjid Javed

When will you muster the courage to say this?

You do realize that your hesitation is clearly confirming my accusation that you don’t want Arsenal to win under Arteta and therefore, you don’t deserve to be considered a fan.

A genuine fan would want the team to win and will feel happiness when they do even if he hates the manager or the players.

You have been beautifully exposed and you can’t wriggle your way out of this one.

 

[topspin]

I wouldn’t blame people for having a little skepticism considering he plays in Portugal, but considering the way he plays, his physique and some of the quality of his goals, I don’t see how that doesn’t translate to the PL notwithstanding the fact that he scored a hat-trick vs City.

When Haaland emerged in the Norwegian league and was heavily linked with United, a lot of United fans were dismissive of his scoring record because it’s Norway.

Similarly, if Arsenal had decided to sign Isak when he was playing in Sweden, a lot of fans would have been dismissive of the signing.

I don’t see how he doesn’t succeeded. He has got everything in his locker. The failure of some other players from the Portuguese league shouldn’t be used against him.

I want him to join us but I'm hearing the deal is being stalled because Arsenal are unwilling to match Sporting's initial fee of 70m euros after offering 65m.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Ive responded to your nonsense for last 5 years and your messiah.

So let me dumb it down for you

If Arteta wins the PL or CL I will give credit. (Feel free to book Mark this comment or the comment I made in December 2023, when I responded to your wild claim)

Reality - Areta has won fk all in 5 years currently, so there has been no need up until now for me to give praise

Whoever the Arsenal manager is I expected them to deliver major trophies and leagues. If they don't they can fk off, next manager comes in and so on and so forth till we win something

So my so called "Agenda" here is against **** managers that don't win trophies.

If the manager fails again. Feel free to apologize just like you said you would in December 2023.

 

[Mamoon]

The behavior of Liverpool fans in light of tragedy has been embarrassing to say the least.

Whilst Arsenal have the worst fanbase in terms of toxicity and negativity towards their own club, Liverpool fans walk alone when it comes to entitlement.

This might not just be a problem for the fans of the football club though; it might run in the city. For example, it was absolutely cringeworthy and frankly disrespectful to see that Everton bloke walking among Liverpool fans to show solidarity to Jota.

He had no reason to where an Everton shirt. It was clearly an attention-seeking move for the cameras. Pretty sure he wasn’t the only Everton or non-Liverpool supporter to pay a visit to Anfield to show solidarity, but it just reflects the psyche of the people of the city.

 

[Mamoon]

I want him to join us but I'm hearing the deal is being stalled because Arsenal are unwilling to match Sporting's initial fee of 70m euros after offering 65m.

It is normal for Sporting to do a bit of penny pinching. It’s just like West Ham holding out for a few extra quids when Arsenal were signing Rice.

This deal is 100% done. Just a matter of days.

 

[Mamoon]

Ive responded to your nonsense for last 5 years and your messiah.

So let me dumb it down for you

If Arteta wins the PL or CL I will give credit. (Feel free to book Mark this comment or the comment I made in December 2023, when I responded to your wild claim)

Reality - Areta has won fk all in 5 years currently, so there has been no need up until now for me to give praise

Whoever the Arsenal manager is I expected them to deliver major trophies and leagues. If they don't they can fk off, next manager comes in and so on and so forth till we win something

So my so called "Agenda" here is against **** managers that don't win trophies.

If the manager fails again. Feel free to apologize just like you said you would in December 2023.

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I won’t allow you to beat around the bush.

You “expect” every Arsenal manager to win trophies but that doesn’t mean you “want”.

Repeat what I said without changing the context otherwise my accusation stands correct.

"Although I don't think Arteta is good enough to win the league for Arsenal, I will be extremely happy to see him to do it. I will be extremely happy to be proved wrong and my agenda is not more important than the success of the club"

No genuine Arsenal fan will have any problem or hesitation saying this as it is. The fact that you are digging your heels and trying to change the context clearly proves that you don’t want to Arsenal to succeed under Arteta because your agenda is more important to you, and therefore, you should be excluded from the list of fans.

 

[topspin]

1) If one of your close friends was killed a few days ago (God forbid), would you be happy for me to call you a "retard" ?

2) Players have been called idiots or donkeys for centuries, but personal insults like labelling them "retards" or "mentally disabled" is not football banter or normal leg pulling (which I love) - it's crass (especially coming from a Dr) and something I hope most human beings grow out of by age 10.

3) Events of last week is a reminder none of us know when we'll draw our last breath. Criticising players is fine but I cannot fathom why in this internet age grown men think it's okay to get so personal, even stooping to attack them when they're at a low point in their lives.

Fair points but what does this have to do with Jota?

I don't understand why you guys get so personal with one another on this thread, and you support the same club !

I completely agree. There is too much toxicity on this thread, largely due to fans of rival clubs (not you), who are more active on the Arsenal thread than the Man U/Liverpool ones, which I find quite sad.

The only people who deserve personal attacks are politicians like Netanyahu who's killed tens of thousands of innocents. In that case, fire away !

Agreed.

 

[Mamoon]

I completely agree and then these Merseyside folk wonder why the rest of the UK see them as a bunch of degenerates.

A bunch of them are hurling abuse at the Spanish police for their statement that Jota was way above the speed limit which anyone with a working brain would know already. Incredible.

 

[Mamoon]

Gyokeres only wants Arsenal. He has already clearly told Sporting he has no intention of returning to pre-season.

This deal is done and dusted unless Arsenal have a last minute change of plan, but that is not happening because Arsenal have been put off by Sesko’s demands.

It is not just about RB being rigid but Sesko himself wanted a release clause in his contract. It seems like he wants to use Arsenal as a launching pad for Madrid/Barca/Bayern/PSG etc., while Gyokeres wants to come to Arsenal in his prime years.

Sporting are backed in a corner now and they are just trying to get the best possible deal given the circumstances

 

[aboveandbeyond]

There should be one football forum for all the clubs. This will make it more entertaining regarding the forum itself.

 

[Markhor]

Fair points but what does this have to do with Jota?



I completely agree. There is too much toxicity on this thread, largely due to fans of rival clubs (not you), who are more active on the Arsenal thread than the Man U/Liverpool ones, which I find quite sad.



Agreed.

1) I've explained the relevance above.

2) Anyone who reads this thread can see it's page after page of personal beef between two Arsenal fans in a bid to have the last word.

No non-Arsenal fan has engaged in as much toxicity on this thread. Banter and leg pulling yes, but I cannot see any personal abuse of the kind you guys are dishing out to each other.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The behavior of Liverpool fans in light of tragedy has been embarrassing to say the least.

Whilst Arsenal have the worst fanbase in terms of toxicity and negativity towards their own club, Liverpool fans walk alone when it comes to entitlement.

This might not just be a problem for the fans of the football club though; it might run in the city. For example, it was absolutely cringeworthy and frankly disrespectful to see that Everton bloke walking among Liverpool fans to show solidarity to Jota.

He had no reason to where an Everton shirt. It was clearly an attention-seeking move for the cameras. Pretty sure he wasn’t the only Everton or non-Liverpool supporter to pay a visit to Anfield to show solidarity, but it just reflects the psyche of the people of the city.

Liverpool as a city has family members who are divided in support of both teams , it’s a normal human thing to do .

The truth is you are petrified your poster boy Arteta will go another season winning sweet fa.

 

[BouncerGuy]

NO PERSONAL REMARKS PLEASE

 

[KingKhanWC]

I completely agree and then these Merseyside folk wonder why the rest of the UK see them as a bunch of degenerates.

Soho is degenerate but that’s ok for you lol

 

[KingKhanWC]

There should be one football forum for all the clubs. This will make it more entertaining regarding the forum itself.

some of these Arsenal fans are crying like because their team has won nothing in years , not even a domestic cup . It’s nice to see

 

[Markhor]

@Mamoon I've no time nor the patience to answer post by post (please combine your replies instead of 2-3 separate diatribes), but I'll make these points:

1) Our club has recovered from even worse tragedies than this, and the one thing I'm certain of is it'll recover from this. People can criticise the club for various things but it cannot be accused of a lack of resilience or unity in dark times.

2) If you read my post carefully - I said criticism is fine but attacking people as "mentally disabled" and "retarded" shows a lack of class especially coming from an alleged doctor. Nunez also buried his grandfather last week BTW. When you buried your relatives killed in the Peshawar massacre in Dec 2014 - I and everyone here offered you (rightly) the utmost sympathy and paused all cricket-related banter for a brief period.

3) I've not seen any LFC fans attacking Spanish police but if they have, they're a tiny minority from a global fanbase just like it was a minority of AFC fans sending death threats to Michael Oliver for having the temerity to send Lewis-Skelly off, or rape threats to Kai Havertz's partner for missing chances in the Man Utd FA Cup tie.

So spare me the lectures about fan misbehaviour.

4) Sports fans around the world wear their club jerseys at memorials. When a Brazilian club team plane crashed in 2016, rival fans laid their shirts and scarves as a mark of solidarity to show that tribalism was being put aside.

Attention seeking is not a stone you'd want to throw in your glass house as for years you've posted the most extreme, controversial and polarising positions simply to antagonise and provoke reactions. And you revel in that attention.

Then you'll U-turn on a dime for more attention. You were a pro-India spokesman for years, now you're anti-India. You said you voted for Imran Khan "because you couldn't look your mother in the eyes if you didn't" in 2018 (yes that was your quote) - then bashed him for years.

You've a pathological craving to get the last word in every discussion. I'm not a doctor but I'm a qualified healthcare professional and know attention seeking disorders when I see it. When you start conducting yourself like a dignified human being again, you can come off my ignore list.

Have a good day.

 

[Mamoon]

@Markhor

With all undue respect, I don’t need lectures on morality from someone who approves abusing Netanyahu for war crimes against Palestinians, but is happy to pay tax money to the UK government that is in bed with the Zionists and has supplied arms worth more than £50m to the Israeli government.

 

[Mamoon]

Liverpool as a city has family members who are divided in support of both teams , it’s a normal human thing to do .

The truth is you are petrified your poster boy Arteta will go another season winning sweet fa.

There was no need of wearing an Everton shirt. It is attention drawing behavior. If you want to show respect, don’t make it about yourself. He clearly wanted to standout and as I said earlier, he cannot be the only Everton supporter there. I’m sure there were hundreds, but they had the decency not to make it about themselves.

 

[Mamoon]

@Markhor

With all undue respect, I don’t need lectures on morality from someone who approves abusing Netanyahu for war crimes against Palestinians, but is happy to pay tax money to the UK government that is in bed with the Zionists and has supplied arms worth more than £50m to the Israeli government.

In 2025 alone.

 

[KingKhanWC]

There was no need of wearing an Everton shirt. It is attention drawing behavior. If you want to show respect, don’t make it about yourself. He clearly wanted to standout and as I said earlier, he cannot be the only Everton supporter there. I’m sure there were hundreds, but they had the decency not to make it about themselves.

That’s none of your business , you live thousands of miles away and again do not understand the culture of the city . However it’s not surprising you attack people mourning, as you did when India bombed a kids school and you glorified it by stating it’s a good thing as these kids would have been terrorists .

 

[Mamoon]

That’s none of your business , you live thousands of miles away and again do not understand the culture of the city . However it’s not surprising you attack people mourning, as you did when India bombed a kids school and you glorified it by stating it’s a good thing as these kids would have been terrorists .

It is also none of your business how I feel about a clown deciding to draw attention to himself while paying tribute to a deceased footballer. It doesn’t matter where I live - there was absolutely no need for wearing the Everton shirt.

Furthermore, just like I told @Markhor, I don’t need morality lectures from someone whose tax money is being used to fund Palestinian genocide. I wonder how do you sleep at night.

 

[Amjid Javed]

@Mamoon I've no time nor the patience to answer post by post (please combine your replies instead of 2-3 separate diatribes), but I'll make these points:

1) Our club has recovered from even worse tragedies than this, and the one thing I'm certain of is it'll recover from this. People can criticise the club for various things but it cannot be accused of a lack of resilience or unity in dark times.

2) If you read my post carefully - I said criticism is fine but attacking people as "mentally disabled" and "retarded" shows a lack of class especially coming from an alleged doctor. Nunez also buried his grandfather last week BTW. When you buried your relatives killed in the Peshawar massacre in Dec 2014 - I and everyone here offered you (rightly) the utmost sympathy and paused all cricket-related banter for a brief period.

3) I've not seen any LFC fans attacking Spanish police but if they have, they're a tiny minority from a global fanbase just like it was a minority of AFC fans sending death threats to Michael Oliver for having the temerity to send Lewis-Skelly off, or rape threats to Kai Havertz's partner for missing chances in the Man Utd FA Cup tie.

So spare me the lectures about fan misbehaviour.

4) Sports fans around the world wear their club jerseys at memorials. When a Brazilian club team plane crashed in 2016, rival fans laid their shirts and scarves as a mark of solidarity to show that tribalism was being put aside.

Attention seeking is not a stone you'd want to throw in your glass house as for years you've posted the most extreme, controversial and polarising positions simply to antagonise and provoke reactions. And you revel in that attention.

Then you'll U-turn on a dime for more attention. You were a pro-India spokesman for years, now you're anti-India. You said you voted for Imran Khan "because you couldn't look your mother in the eyes if you didn't" in 2018 (yes that was your quote) - then bashed him for years.

You've a pathological craving to get the last word in every discussion. I'm not a doctor but I'm a qualified healthcare professional and know attention seeking disorders when I see it. When you start conducting yourself like a dignified human being again, you can come off my ignore list.

Have a good day.

Post of 2025 winner right here 🎖

 

[Amjid Javed]

so the person that wanted sesko to join, so that Donkey havertz could remain 1st choice.

Is now saying sesko is making silly demands. Me and @MK7Z made these points Ages ago

Also the same sesko, now Gyokeres lover, was saying isak was only striker he wanted for Arsenal last season

Attention seeking in full swing

 

[Markhor]

@Markhor

With all undue respect, I don’t need lectures on morality from someone who approves abusing Netanyahu for war crimes against Palestinians, but is happy to pay tax money to the UK government that is in bed with the Zionists and has supplied arms worth more than £50m to the Israeli government.

That's an easy one.

Briefly as this isn't football related: Very few nations have their hands clean. Most around the world are entangled in a web of alliances for historical, political and economic interests over which citizens have little power over. If I were a German citizen heating my home with Russian gas, aren't I funding the Russian state that illegally invaded Ukraine ? If I were a Chinese citizen, aren't I subsidising the concentration camps of Xinjiang and the North Korean regime ?

If I were a Pakistani citizen like yourself - would I feel comfortable funding a state that discriminates against Ahmedis, that refuses to abolish the blasphemy law that's been exploited to target minorities etc ? You wrote so eloquently and beautifully about minority discrimination in Pakistan before you went down this Trumpian attention seeking route.

If we took your logic to its ultimate conclusion, the only nations on earth populated by human beings, or at least those opposing their government's unethical foreign policies, would be the Scandinavian countries or Antarctica who, to my knowledge, haven't committed or supported any human rights violations.

When you are a citizen of a state, and it's not a complete rogue nation like North Korea or Talicaveman-ruled Afghanistan, you accept it warts and all. You embrace democratic principles like a free press and free assembly but deplore that we support regimes overseas that deny those same rights to its citizens. You embrace the police who keep our streets safe but deplore the incidents of abuses and corruption. You embrace the principle of free healthcare at point of delivery but deplore the coverups and scandals in the NHS.

If I'm working for the NHS, does that mean I endorse Lucy Letby or what happened at mid-Staffs hospital ? Of course not. I can only focus on the things within my realistic power as a citizen - which's to speak up and hold my representatives to account.

I pray one day you realise holding so much anger and toxicity in your heart, that obsessing over having the last word in online discussions and seeking attention through provocative statements is a futile waste of your own time and talents. Have a good day.

 

[Mamoon]

That's an easy one.

Briefly as this isn't football related: Very few nations have their hands clean. Most around the world are entangled in a web of alliances for historical, political and economic interests over which citizens have little power over. If I were a German citizen heating my home with Russian gas, aren't I funding the Russian state that illegally invaded Ukraine ? If I were a Chinese citizen, aren't I subsidising the concentration camps of Xinjiang and the North Korean regime ?

If I were a Pakistani citizen like yourself - would I feel comfortable funding a state that discriminates against Ahmedis, that refuses to abolish the blasphemy law that's been exploited to target minorities etc ? You wrote so eloquently and beautifully about minority discrimination in Pakistan before you went down this Trumpian attention seeking route.

If we took your logic to its ultimate conclusion, the only nations on earth populated by human beings, or at least those opposing their government's unethical foreign policies, would be the Scandinavian countries or Antarctica who, to my knowledge, haven't committed or supported any human rights violations.

When you are a citizen of a state, and it's not a complete rogue nation like North Korea or Talicaveman-ruled Afghanistan, you accept it warts and all. You embrace democratic principles like a free press and free assembly but deplore that we support regimes overseas that deny those same rights to its citizens. You embrace the police who keep our streets safe but deplore the incidents of abuses and corruption. You embrace the principle of free healthcare at point of delivery but deplore the coverups and scandals in the NHS.

If I'm working for the NHS, does that mean I endorse Lucy Letby or what happened at mid-Staffs hospital ? Of course not. I can only focus on the things within my realistic power as a citizen - which's to speak up and hold my representatives to account.

I pray one day you realise holding so much anger and toxicity in your heart, that obsessing over having the last word in online discussions and seeking attention through provocative statements is a futile waste of your own time and talents. Have a good day.

There is no need of going on the backfoot and making limp excuses. It is none of my business what you do, but if you are going to attack others morality, you will be shown the mirror because your own morality compass is oriented towards sheer convenient hypocrisy.

 

[Mamoon]

so the person that wanted sesko to join, so that Donkey havertz could remain 1st choice.

Is now saying sesko is making silly demands. Me and @MK7Z made these points Ages ago

Also the same sesko, now Gyokeres lover, was saying isak was only striker he wanted for Arsenal last season

Attention seeking in full swing

Please repeat after me:


"Although I don't think Arteta is good enough to win the league for Arsenal, I will be extremely happy to see him to do it. I will be extremely happy to be proved wrong and my agenda is not more important than the success of the club"

 

[KingKhanWC]

That's an easy one.

Briefly as this isn't football related: Very few nations have their hands clean. Most around the world are entangled in a web of alliances for historical, political and economic interests over which citizens have little power over. If I were a German citizen heating my home with Russian gas, aren't I funding the Russian state that illegally invaded Ukraine ? If I were a Chinese citizen, aren't I subsidising the concentration camps of Xinjiang and the North Korean regime ?

If I were a Pakistani citizen like yourself - would I feel comfortable funding a state that discriminates against Ahmedis, that refuses to abolish the blasphemy law that's been exploited to target minorities etc ? You wrote so eloquently and beautifully about minority discrimination in Pakistan before you went down this Trumpian attention seeking route.

If we took your logic to its ultimate conclusion, the only nations on earth populated by human beings, or at least those opposing their government's unethical foreign policies, would be the Scandinavian countries or Antarctica who, to my knowledge, haven't committed or supported any human rights violations.

When you are a citizen of a state, and it's not a complete rogue nation like North Korea or Talicaveman-ruled Afghanistan, you accept it warts and all. You embrace democratic principles like a free press and free assembly but deplore that we support regimes overseas that deny those same rights to its citizens. You embrace the police who keep our streets safe but deplore the incidents of abuses and corruption. You embrace the principle of free healthcare at point of delivery but deplore the coverups and scandals in the NHS.

If I'm working for the NHS, does that mean I endorse Lucy Letby or what happened at mid-Staffs hospital ? Of course not. I can only focus on the things within my realistic power as a citizen - which's to speak up and hold my representatives to account.

I pray one day you realise holding so much anger and toxicity in your heart, that obsessing over having the last word in online discussions and seeking attention through provocative statements is a futile waste of your own time and talents. Have a good day.

Great post but you're wasting time with someone who sees tragedy of death as an excuse to ridicule and attack.

Add to this , clueless of the great game of football, hence idiotic predictions of Arteta winning 2 PL's in a few seasons, while he has won nothing still.

Latest news is Gyokeres talks stalled, Arsenal chiefs leaving Portugal now. Sporting likely playing for a higher fee but could fall through.

 

[Mamoon]

As far Gyokeres vs Sesko is concerned, I would have been happy with either. Sesko is more of a future investment. He can develop into a killer player in a few years.

Gyokeres is someone who is ready to make instant impact, as he is the most lethal number 9 in the world right now. Only Haaland can match him for goals.

Isak is a fantastic player, but nowhere near him in terms of scoring rate. This is proved by international football as well. They play for the same team but Gyokeres is far ahead in terms of scoring rate.

Therefore, this rubbish that he isn’t PL proven means nothing. Gyokeres will score far more goals than him at every level, and the fact that he is the same age and almost 50% cheaper means it’s a complete no-brainer.

 

[Mamoon]

Great post but you're wasting time with someone who sees tragedy of death as an excuse to ridicule and attack.

That is not worse than funding
Palestinian genocide by any moral standing.

 

[KingKhanWC]

That is not worse than funding
Palestinian genocide by any moral standing.

Its not intentional and the its the law. You're funding corrupt politicians and generals and enjoy deaths of Pakistani kids, its not even a close contest.

Btw your 30 goals by Xmas has not yet signed. If he doesnt please dont jump of Peshawer bridge Jim.

 

[Mamoon]

“I have no problem funding Palestinian genocide with my tax money because enjoying the privileges of living in a first world western country is more important to me than the plight of Muslims. I am comfortable with my hypocrisy and I am sure the Almighty will accept my justification in the hereafter”

@KingKhanWC @Markhor

 

[Mamoon]

Its not intentional and the its the law. You're funding corrupt politicians and generals and enjoy deaths of Pakistani kids, its not even a close contest.

Btw your 30 goals by Xmas has not yet signed. If he doesnt please dont jump of Peshawer bridge Jim.

Your decision to continue to live in a state that funds the genocide is intentional. You have a choice and you have made it for selfish reasons and you will be answerable in the hereafter. Therefore, worry about your moral compass not mine.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Your decision to continue to live in a state that funds the genocide is intentional. You have a choice and you have made it for selfish reasons and you will be answerable in the hereafter. Therefore, worry about your moral compass not mine.

So move to Pakistan and fund Pakistani politicians bank accounts? lol

Only a tiny amount of taxes are used to help Zionists, most are for welfare of locals. Yours are to fund destroying the country you cant move out from. Btw those kids who didnt die, as you wished are true Pakistanis, unlike you.

 

[Mamoon]

So move to Pakistan and fund Pakistani politicians bank accounts? lol

Only a tiny amount of taxes are used to help Zionists, most are for welfare of locals. Yours are to fund destroying the country you cant move out from. Btw those kids who didnt die, as you wished are true Pakistanis, unlike you.

“tiny amount”

How shameful. You’re putting a price on their lives.

So how many £ will not be considered tiny? What’s the threshold?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Its not intentional and the its the law. You're funding corrupt politicians and generals and enjoy deaths of Pakistani kids, its not even a close contest.

Btw your 30 goals by Xmas has not yet signed. If he doesnt please dont jump of Peshawer bridge Jim.

Exactly. Bigots ignore the fact, abusing the law of the land is also sinful in islam

 

[aboveandbeyond]

“tiny amount”

How shameful. You’re putting a price on their lives.

So how many £ will not be considered tiny? What’s the threshold?

Why do you resort to this. Your better than this. Your input in football is actually complimentary on my part.

 

[KingKhanWC]

“tiny amount”

How shameful. You’re putting a price on their lives.

So how many £ will not be considered tiny? What’s the threshold?

lol, You're slower than Havertz to the ball in the 6 yard box. Acc to my faith being a Muslim, not sure if you're Hindu or Sikh but there is no sinn or fault as these taxes are mandatory and almost all nations leaders use taxes to help kill or kill. Yours are being used by Munir to abuse elderly women and children and your taxes one day may be used to attack the women in your family. It wont happen to us in the UK.

 

[Mamoon]

Latest news is Gyokeres talks stalled, Arsenal chiefs leaving Portugal now. Sporting likely playing for a higher fee but could fall through.

Back on topic.

You’ve no clue how transfers work. This deal is done, but Sporting pinching Arsenal for every last penny which is completely normal.

 

[Mamoon]

lol, You're slower than Havertz to the ball in the 6 yard box. Acc to my faith being a Muslim, not sure if you're Hindu or Sikh but there is no sinn or fault as these taxes are mandatory and almost all nations leaders use taxes to help kill or kill. Yours are being used by Munir to abuse elderly women and children and your taxes one day may be used to attack the women in your family. It wont happen to us in the UK.

You missed my question just like the retarded Uruguayan misses from close range. Only difference is that he doesn’t miss intentionally.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Back on topic.

You’ve no clue how transfers work. This deal is done, but Sporting pinching Arsenal for every last penny which is completely normal.

lol the deal isnt done, the personal terms of the player have been agreed. It should be done but you have to be pretty thick to think its all signed and sealed.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You missed my question just like the retarded Uruguayan misses from close range. Only difference is that he doesn’t miss intentionally.

I pray the taxes you pay to Munir will miss the target, not killing anyone esp someone of yours.

 

[Mamoon]

lol the deal isnt done, the personal terms of the player have been agreed. It should be done but you have to be pretty thick to think its all signed and sealed.

Nonsense.

Personal terms are agreed, Sporting know they have to sell him and they also know he only wants Arsenal. They are just waiting to see how far Arsenal would go with their offer. Eventually, both clubs will meet halfway.

This is just like the Rice situation, but that was more complicated because City were also actively bidding for him.

Gyokeres will be an Arsenal player 100%.

 

[MK7Z]

Bid submitted for Madueke before a Striker and LW. £50 Million is not a backup. If you think that you are living in cukoo land.

TICK TOCK Mikel Tick TOCK

 

[Amjid Javed]

Bid submitted for Madueke before a Striker and LW. £50 Million is not a backup. If you think that you are living in cukoo land.

TICK TOCK Mikel Tick TOCK

But he's the best back up winger in PL according to those that are backing this transfer.

Either someone on Chelsea board has nudes of Arteta and are blackmailing him into Transfers

The weird obsession this club has with signing Chelsea cast offs has to be investigated properly

 

[MK7Z]

But he's the best back up winger in PL according to those that are backing this transfer.

Either someone on Chelsea board has nudes of Arteta and are blackmailing him into Transfers

The weird obsession this club has with signing Chelsea cast offs has to be investigated properly

You make a good point..
Don't they call them Chelsea rent boys....

 

[Mamoon]

Arsenal fans love to cry, it is in their DNA. I’m personally ok with this, he is a good squad player and those are complaining about the fee, don’t ignore the English tax.

The winger market is pretty dry right now, there are not many options available.

Gyokeres, Saka, Odegaard, Rice, Zubi, Saliba, Gabriel, Skelly, Raya

This will be the core of the team, and it is the best in the PL. The likes of Havertz, Nwaneri, Madueke, (hopefully Eze), Merino, Norgaard, Calafiori, Timber, White and Kepa will add world class depth.

Hopefully the two useless Brazilians will be kicked out. They add nothing to the team.

Arteta and Berta are building an elite squad.

 

[MK7Z]

Arsenal fans love to cry, it is in their DNA. I’m personally ok with this, he is a good squad player and those are complaining about the fee, don’t ignore the English tax.

The winger market is pretty dry right now, there are not many options available.

Gyokeres, Saka, Odegaard, Rice, Zubi, Saliba, Gabriel, Skelly, Raya

This will be the core of the team, and it is the best in the PL. The likes of Havertz, Nwaneri, Madueke, (hopefully Eze), Merino, Norgaard, Calafiori, Timber, White and Kepa will add world class depth.

Hopefully the two useless Brazilians will be kicked out. They add nothing to the team.

Arteta and Berta are building an elite squad.

Bro... If this is it and no Eze or Rodrygo then I'm sorry this is not an elite squad.

Like I said earlier. If this is an addition to other requirements then fine. If this is it then Arteta can't keep getting away with signing these players.

 

[MK7Z]

I'd rather Arsenal had spent their whole budget on Isak and Zubimendi instead of buying this thrash with the excuse of squad building.

Chances are Mikel won't change anything mid game anyway or his regular 11 so squad building is pointless with this so far limited manager

 

[Mamoon]

Arsenal fans love to cry, it is in their DNA. I’m personally ok with this, he is a good squad player and those are complaining about the fee, don’t ignore the English tax.

The winger market is pretty dry right now, there are not many options available.

Gyokeres, Saka, Odegaard, Rice, Zubi, Saliba, Gabriel, Skelly, Raya

This will be the core of the team, and it is the best in the PL. The likes of Havertz, Nwaneri, Madueke, (hopefully Eze), Merino, Norgaard, Calafiori, Timber, White and Kepa will add world class depth.

Hopefully the two useless Brazilians will be kicked out. They add nothing to the team.

Arteta and Berta are building an elite squad.

Not to forget Trossard.

 

[Mamoon]

I like this lineup a lot. I think it could work beautifully on the pitch. Havertz will drop deep and hold up the ball, allowing Gyokeres and extra space.

I think if Arsenal go with something like this, they don’t need to spend money on Eze or Rodrygo in addition to Madueke.

 

[Mamoon]

^ Califiori and Gabriel to compete with each other. This formation can be effectively used quite frequently.

 

[MK7Z]

Oh wow. I just read Kudus is going to Spurs for similar price

Mikel you weirdo