Liverpool FC 2025/26 Season

[KingKhanWC]

Arsenal fans won't understand? you've probably seen Liverpool win 2 league titles in your entire life time.

Don't get to carried away with stuff. Some Arsenal fans know exactly what should have been done on Sunday and didn't happen. Don't start portraying aj entire fan base on a select few fans

My apologies, @IMMY69 not included in Arsenal fans.

I hope you guys win something this year, Arteta is causing mental health issues to the fans.

 

[MK7Z]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1962817779372794019

Smart guy finally he will
Win a proper trophy

WOAH WOAH WOAH hold it there a minute - Win a proper trophy?

Are you implying the league cup is not a proper trophy? The very trophy which you have won more than any other club. The trophy that has played a significant part in the title of " Most successful club in England".

Are you now saying that is not a proper trophy?
@Amjid Javed @Geordie Ahmed - interesting isn't it?

 

[KingKhanWC]

WOAH WOAH WOAH hold it there a minute - Win a proper trophy?

Are you implying the league cup is not a proper trophy? The very trophy which you have won more than any other club. The trophy that has played a significant part in the title of " Most successful club in England".

Are you now saying that is not a proper trophy?
@Amjid Javed @Geordie Ahmed - interesting isn't it?

Liverpool are the most successful club due to 20 PL titles and 6 CL cups. League cup is good but its nice to wind up Geordies while they are already down.

 

[MK7Z]

Liverpool are the most successful club due to 20 PL titles and 6 CL cups. League cup is good but its nice to wind up Geordies while they are already down.

So only PL and UCL count then?

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Liverpool are the most successful club due to 20 PL titles and 6 CL cups. League cup is good but its nice to wind up Geordies while they are already down.

It's all good, I was at the trophy parade so know what it meant to me

Speaking of trophy parades, didn't Liverpool hold one for the FA Cup and League Cup? Did you turn up?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I presume Premier League and Champions league Trophies are all that matters.

Utd been ridiculed recently, even though no doubting our Poor Premier league form, we won the FA cup and Carling Cup.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Liverpool are the most successful club due to 20 PL titles and 6 CL cups. League cup is good but its nice to wind up Geordies while they are already down.

Hold your horses Buddy. Utd are equal to You guys when it comes to domestic success. Lol.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's all good, I was at the trophy parade so know what it meant to me

Speaking of trophy parades, didn't Liverpool hold one for the FA Cup and League Cup? Did you turn up?

That was a double, imagination might help. It was booked as we were 2 goals from winning the quad, imagination wont help, try asking Mamoon for drawing crayons.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Hold your horses Buddy. Utd are equal to You guys when it comes to domestic success. Lol.

Yes you are , this is why this season can be historic if we get to the 21. IF we do , I will retire from this forum too.

 

[MK7Z]

That was a double, imagination might help. It was booked as we were 2 goals from winning the quad, imagination wont help, try asking Mamoon for drawing crayons.

Its all perspective isn't it.

If I remember correctly - you could also say you were 2 penalty shootouts from not winning anything.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Its all perspective isn't it.

If I remember correctly - you could also say you were 2 penalty shootouts from not winning anything.

Fair point but I would take being in them positions every year.

All that matters now is no . 21

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

That was a double, imagination might help. It was booked as we were 2 goals from winning the quad, imagination wont help, try asking Mamoon for drawing crayons.

I'm the last person that's going to look down on any trophies but you were the one talking about proper trophies, was just trying to work out what is worthy of being celebrated

 

[mazkhan]

And the gap in centre back remains

Can't believe we sold quansah he could have definetly had made a mark this season and establish himself in the setup.

 

[Markhor]

@Geordie Ahmed - on the Isak/rat issue:

Football fandom is inherently hypocritical. One man's traitor is another man's new hero until they step out the door too. We expect loyalty from players but are equally quick to label them as castoffs to discard. There's no consistent logic to be found in such a tribal sport.

Clubs and players are astute at the PR game and creating narratives. The Isak affair got messy and IMO there's blame all around:

1) Newcastle are fair in arguing he had three years left on his deal. Isak had no release clause or written agreement to leave this summer so that's a dereliction of duty from Isak's agent, meaning the only way Isak was getting his move was by creating an almighty stink.

2) Isak's argument he was verbally offered a new contract by Staveley, which was later reneged on by Mitchell, cannot be dismissed too. Yes the club will argue a big pay rise would've destroyed a) the PSR position and b) the pay structure leading to Bruno, Tonali and co knocking at the door.

But that stance dissolves trust between employer and employee. And it's made worse when executives are coming and going like at Newcastle.

Eales' blood cancer diagnosis was horrific and unfortunate, but PL clubs must replace a CEO quickly not leave a power vacuum for so long. That's why you missed out on so many targets - transfer legwork must be done months/years beforehand.

3) We suffered the same with Torres in 2011. We had the inept cowboys Hicks and Gillette with a rotating cast of execs and managers underneath who made him promises Torres felt were broken.

He leaves for rivals Chelsea and then a new, young DOF in Damien Comolli panic bought Carroll from you for a fee way over the odds.

The club were very good at painting Torres as the villain like Newcastle have with Isak through briefing their patch journos in the press - but the reality is always more complex.

I can't tell Newcastle fans how they feel. However I hope in the fullness of time you guys remember what Isak did. Losing at Wembley wasn't nice but seeing old Geordies, Alan Shearer etc in tears after a lifetime of heartache made me realise you needed it more than us. And Isak played a key role in ending that 70 year run - like Torres brought me so many fond memories from demolishing Real Madrid, Man Utd away 1-4 etc. Eventually Torres returned in a 2015 charity game and was cheered. Football stops for nobody. Cash in, reinvest, rebuild.

 

[IronShield]

@Geordie Ahmed - on the Isak/rat issue:

Football fandom is inherently hypocritical. One man's traitor is another man's new hero until they step out the door too. We expect loyalty from players but are equally quick to label them as castoffs to discard. There's no consistent logic to be found in such a tribal sport.

Clubs and players are astute at the PR game and creating narratives. The Isak affair got messy and IMO there's blame all around:

1) Newcastle are fair in arguing he had three years left on his deal. Isak had no release clause or written agreement to leave this summer so that's a dereliction of duty from Isak's agent, meaning the only way Isak was getting his move was by creating an almighty stink.

2) Isak's argument he was verbally offered a new contract by Staveley, which was later reneged on by Mitchell, cannot be dismissed too. Yes the club will argue a big pay rise would've destroyed a) the PSR position and b) the pay structure leading to Bruno, Tonali and co knocking at the door.

But that stance dissolves trust between employer and employee. And it's made worse when executives are coming and going like at Newcastle.

Eales' blood cancer diagnosis was horrific and unfortunate, but PL clubs must replace a CEO quickly not leave a power vacuum for so long. That's why you missed out on so many targets - transfer legwork must be done months/years beforehand.

3) We suffered the same with Torres in 2011. We had the inept cowboys Hicks and Gillette with a rotating cast of execs and managers underneath who made him promises Torres felt were broken.

He leaves for rivals Chelsea and then a new, young DOF in Damien Comolli panic bought Carroll from you for a fee way over the odds.

The club were very good at painting Torres as the villain like Newcastle have with Isak through briefing their patch journos in the press - but the reality is always more complex.

I can't tell Newcastle fans how they feel. However I hope in the fullness of time you guys remember what Isak did. Losing at Wembley wasn't nice but seeing old Geordies, Alan Shearer etc in tears after a lifetime of heartache made me realise you needed it more than us. And Isak played a key role in ending that 70 year run - like Torres brought me so many fond memories from demolishing Real Madrid, Man Utd away 1-4 etc. Eventually Torres returned in a 2015 charity game and was cheered. Football stops for nobody. Cash in, reinvest, rebuild.

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[KingKhanWC]

I'm the last person that's going to look down on any trophies but you were the one talking about proper trophies, was just trying to work out what is worthy of being celebrated

All relative on the team in question. It was a great moment for Newcastle to win after so many years, lovely too see. Isak was key to this success and also CL qualifications.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

@Geordie Ahmed - on the Isak/rat issue:

Football fandom is inherently hypocritical. One man's traitor is another man's new hero until they step out the door too. We expect loyalty from players but are equally quick to label them as castoffs to discard. There's no consistent logic to be found in such a tribal sport.

Clubs and players are astute at the PR game and creating narratives. The Isak affair got messy and IMO there's blame all around:

1) Newcastle are fair in arguing he had three years left on his deal. Isak had no release clause or written agreement to leave this summer so that's a dereliction of duty from Isak's agent, meaning the only way Isak was getting his move was by creating an almighty stink.

2) Isak's argument he was verbally offered a new contract by Staveley, which was later reneged on by Mitchell, cannot be dismissed too. Yes the club will argue a big pay rise would've destroyed a) the PSR position and b) the pay structure leading to Bruno, Tonali and co knocking at the door.

But that stance dissolves trust between employer and employee. And it's made worse when executives are coming and going like at Newcastle.

Eales' blood cancer diagnosis was horrific and unfortunate, but PL clubs must replace a CEO quickly not leave a power vacuum for so long. That's why you missed out on so many targets - transfer legwork must be done months/years beforehand.

3) We suffered the same with Torres in 2011. We had the inept cowboys Hicks and Gillette with a rotating cast of execs and managers underneath who made him promises Torres felt were broken.

He leaves for rivals Chelsea and then a new, young DOF in Damien Comolli panic bought Carroll from you for a fee way over the odds.

The club were very good at painting Torres as the villain like Newcastle have with Isak through briefing their patch journos in the press - but the reality is always more complex.

I can't tell Newcastle fans how they feel. However I hope in the fullness of time you guys remember what Isak did. Losing at Wembley wasn't nice but seeing old Geordies, Alan Shearer etc in tears after a lifetime of heartache made me realise you needed it more than us. And Isak played a key role in ending that 70 year run - like Torres brought me so many fond memories from demolishing Real Madrid, Man Utd away 1-4 etc. Eventually Torres returned in a 2015 charity game and was cheered. Football stops for nobody. Cash in, reinvest, rebuild.

I respect the time and effort you put into this lengthy post but it does not move me one bit

The bottom line is he refused to play, there is a time and place for me to criticise our transfer window, how it's been handled, what Mitchell did etc etc

The bottom line is he refused to play, he shat on the fans. It's not outrageous to suggest we could be sat on 7-9 points instead of the two if he did what he is contracted to, if we miss out on European football come the end of the season by a few points then he's played his part in that. There are even further reports suggesting he even stopped trying towards the end of the season as us failing to qualify would make him wanting to leave an easier process and as I reflect more and more on those performances I am starting to believe that

Torres to my knowledge never refused to play so the comparison is flawed

I'm sorry, I find it so strange why Liverpool fans are getting defensive about what we call him. Again, I repeat for the umpteenth time no one is expecting you to feel that way, he will be amazing for Liverpool and he will rightly be considered a hero, I have no issues with that but completely failing to understand why we hate him is just baffling

You can write an essay but I will forever refer to him as a rat and that will never change

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

All relative on the team in question. It was a great moment for Newcastle to win after so many years, lovely too see. Isak was key to this success and also CL qualifications.

Indeed and it was a great moment when your team won it too

 

[Amjid Javed]

Players will always want to move onto other clubs, that's always been the case. Some players will look to move in a respectful manner and others won't. Player refusing to train, play etc.. to push for a move, are rightly criticised. Whether someone likes where they are working or not, when under contract you should have the decency to behave in a professional manner.

if promises were made Isak and weren't kept. I understand why he wanted to leave. He should have still played the 1st few games for Newcastle and then moved on. None of the Newcastle players, managers or fans broke promises. It's the board that did. So Newcastle fans are right to be pissed.

We all know Liverpool aren't saints in these types of scenarios. We know trent will be called Judas when he plays the CL game vs liverpool. Some Liverpool fans were sending death threats to stevie G when he wanted to join Chelsea. Loyalty works both ways, but people pick and choose when they want to apply it

 

[Markhor]

I respect the time and effort you put into this lengthy post but it does not move me one bit

The bottom line is he refused to play, there is a time and place for me to criticise our transfer window, how it's been handled, what Mitchell did etc etc

The bottom line is he refused to play, he shat on the fans. It's not outrageous to suggest we could be sat on 7-9 points instead of the two if he did what he is contracted to, if we miss out on European football come the end of the season by a few points then he's played his part in that. There are even further reports suggesting he even stopped trying towards the end of the season as us failing to qualify would make him wanting to leave an easier process and as I reflect more and more on those performances I am starting to believe that

Torres to my knowledge never refused to play so the comparison is flawed

I'm sorry, I find it so strange why Liverpool fans are getting defensive about what we call him. Again, I repeat for the umpteenth time no one is expecting you to feel that way, he will be amazing for Liverpool and he will rightly be considered a hero, I have no issues with that but completely failing to understand why we hate him is just baffling

You can write an essay but I will forever refer to him as a rat and that will never change

@Geordie Ahmed You've misunderstood my post if you think I'm objecting to Newcastle fans calling Isak a rat. I literally said it's not my place to tell Newcastle fans how to feel ! Please re-read my post instead of jumping to conclusions.

My point was these situations are rarely as black and white (no pun intended) as made out. Clubs and players are expert in shaping cartoonishly simple narratives where one party is a villain - yes even our own.

What I'm interested in as a football fan is coldly and rationally analysing how and why the situation got so messy. Who is saying what is of no concern to me.

My view, which you can agree or disagree with, is there are multiple villains. Yes Isak behaved unprofessionally and was poorly advised by his agent. He's undoubtedly tarnished his legacy at Newcastle. However, Newcastle learned a harsh lesson in that top PL clubs cannot leave power vacuums at the executive level ! Clubs and players will ruthlessly prey on you.

If a strong, experienced DOF was in charge, would Isak been so emboldened to go on strike ? Would you have missed out on so many targets ? Maybe the outcome would be the same, but it could've happened more on your terms.

No Torres didn't strike but he was moody and uninterested throughout 2010, including in the game at SJP where you battered us (prompting our panic buy of Carroll). We had a manager who hadn't managed for 11 years, a DOF in the job for 2 months, and new owners who knew nothing about football.

We were in no position to fight Torres, floundered for replacements and then paid over the odds for Carroll like you have with Wissa. Now your situation is actually far more stable than ours was - which is why I'm curious how PIF allowed this power vacuum to develop !

Dare I say, is Isak a convenient scapegoat for PIF to hide the fact they haven't moved swiftly enough behind the scenes to create the structures to enable Newcastle to push on from their League Cup win and CL qualification ? Have the Saudis spread themselves too thin ?

 

[Markhor]

Players will always want to move onto other clubs, that's always been the case. Some players will look to move in a respectful manner and others won't. Player refusing to train, play etc.. to push for a move, are rightly criticised. Whether someone likes where they are working or not, when under contract you should have the decency to behave in a professional manner.

if promises were made Isak and weren't kept. I understand why he wanted to leave. He should have still played the 1st few games for Newcastle and then moved on. None of the Newcastle players, managers or fans broke promises. It's the board that did. So Newcastle fans are right to be pissed.

We all know Liverpool aren't saints in these types of scenarios. We know trent will be called Judas when he plays the CL game vs liverpool. Some Liverpool fans were sending death threats to stevie G when he wanted to join Chelsea. Loyalty works both ways, but people pick and choose when they want to apply it

This is exactly my point @Amjid Javed. I'm not attacking @Geordie Ahmed or Newcastle fans who I fully expect to be livid with Isak.

What I'm saying is Newcastle fans must also analyse how the board let this situation develop.

Why did this Mitchell step down as sporting director 3 weeks into the most important transfer window of Newcastle's recent history ? It's like a surgeon walking out the theatre while the patient is still carved open ! Where was the replacement ? Why did it take so long to find a CEO ?

Agents and players like Isak who, even with 3 years left on their deal, will see that as weakness and play whatever cards they have including striking. Not saying it's right or wrong, that's how football is.

We got our pants pulled down so many times in the market until we sorted ourselves out. Cuss out Isak or Liverpool, sure, but assess the wider context too.

 

[Mamoon]

@KingKhanWC

If the League Cup is not a proper trophy, why did Klopp do an open bus parade for winning it along with the FA Cup?

 

[Amjid Javed]

This is exactly my point @Amjid Javed. I'm not attacking @Geordie Ahmed or Newcastle fans who I fully expect to be livid with Isak.

What I'm saying is Newcastle fans must also analyse how the board let this situation develop.

Why did this Mitchell step down as sporting director 3 weeks into the most important transfer window of Newcastle's recent history ? It's like a surgeon walking out the theatre while the patient is still carved open ! Where was the replacement ? Why did it take so long to find a CEO ?

Agents and players like Isak who, even with 3 years left on their deal, will see that as weakness and play whatever cards they have including striking. Not saying it's right or wrong, that's how football is.

We got our pants pulled down so many times in the market until we sorted ourselves out. Cuss out Isak or Liverpool, sure, but assess the wider context too.

Agents will always be sneaky and under handed, that's always been the case they are ultimately looking to make their clients and themselves the most money

In the case of footballers they can have at times short careers and need to do whats best for themselves. However, when players do sign contracts they have to be more respectful to what they have signed. Maybe now because we see and hear more things on social media, but it seems players and managers now just seen to think they can act like spoilt brats if they don't get there way. We can't have a situation now in football where if a player all of sudden doesn't want to stay, they Starr refusing to train or play. You can't do that in any other form of employment, so it's should be tolerated in football either. It sets a bad precedent, otherwise you could have 4 or 5 unhappy players at clubs behaving In such a way it just makes a mockery of signing a contract In 1st place.

Personal I think both isak and wissa should have played for their clubs in games this season until they were sold.

It's clear in both cases the players Agents have more than likely said, act like a child as that's only way your going to get sold. I can see more players now doing same as this type stuff just sets a bad precedent.

I think even I'd Newcastle had previous people in place, same mess would have occurred as player knew he had to behave in such a way to get out. Clubs can also handle situations better, allowing players to behave like this just means selling club ends up losing value on their asset. Maybe players should be forced to stump up cash out of their own pocket as part of transfers if they want to behave like this

 

[Mamoon]

@KingKhanWC

What is this?

No wonder this twig is injured all the time. Gyokeres can knock this Somalian pirate out with one blow.

 

[KingKhanWC]

@KingKhanWC

If the League Cup is not a proper trophy, why did Klopp do an open bus parade for winning it along with the FA Cup?

See post #408

After drawing cartoons of managers for your wall, now you're looking for photos of players body?


Once again you are showing you lack of footy understanding. Isak is very strong physically, he is one of the rare defenders who troubled the likes of Saliba and VVD. He is far stronger than Gyokeres who was manhandled like a child on Sunday.

Stop before this hole gets so deep you cant climb out of it.

 

[Mamoon]

See post #408

After drawing cartoons of managers for your wall, now you're looking for photos of players body?


Once again you are showing you lack of footy understanding. Isak is very strong physically, he is one of the rare defenders who troubled the likes of Saliba and VVD. He is far stronger than Gyokeres who was manhandled like a child on Sunday.

Stop before this hole gets so deep you cant climb out of it.

The Somalian twig is so strong physically, he has been out injured for 337 days in his career, while the physically weak Gyokeres has only missed 71 days in his career, even though he has played a lot of football in the Championship where players get kicked around for fun and get very little protection from the referees.

Not only does Gyokeres blow the Somalian twig out of the water as a goal scorer both at international and club level, he is far stronger than him too.

The Somalian twig should really ensure he doesn’t take his shirt off and not expose himself like this.

This picture is doing the rounds on social media and someone aptly called him Alexander Insect .

 

[KingKhanWC]

The Somalian twig is so strong physically, he has been out injured for 337 days in his career, while the physically weak Gyokeres has only missed 71 days in his career, even though he has played a lot of football in the Championship where players get kicked around for fun and get very little protection from the referees.

Not only does Gyokeres blow the Somalian twig out of the water as a goal scorer both at international and club level, he is far stronger than him too.

The Somalian twig should really ensure he doesn’t take his shirt off and not expose himself like this.

This picture is doing the rounds on social media and someone aptly called him Alexander Insect .

lol injuries are not always related to physical strength, clearly you've never hit the gym or done any physical activity.

Harvey Elliot would be able to mark and tackle Jokeres, he was badly exposed by Liverpool and Utd but will do well against minnows.

Nice racist language too from Peshawar.

 

[Mamoon]

lol injuries are not always related to physical strength, clearly you've never hit the gym or done any physical activity.

Harvey Elliot would be able to mark and tackle Jokeres, he was badly exposed by Liverpool and Utd but will do well against minnows.

Nice racist language too from Peshawar.

Alexander Insect has suffered a lot of muscular injuries. He lacks strength and endurance. It is one of the reasons why clubs were reluctant to sign him when he was in Spain.

What racism - is he not Somalian? Or is he ashamed of his roots like you are?

 

[SherWaqar]

Alexander Insect has suffered a lot of muscular injuries. He lacks strength and endurance. It is one of the reasons why clubs were reluctant to sign him when he was in Spain.

What racism - is he not Somalian? Or is he ashamed of his roots like you are?

No he is not Somalian

 

[Mamoon]

No he is not Somalian

What African country has he come from? Apologies if I mistook him for a Somalian.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Alexander Insect has suffered a lot of muscular injuries. He lacks strength and endurance. It is one of the reasons why clubs were reluctant to sign him when he was in Spain.

What racism - is he not Somalian? Or is he ashamed of his roots like you are?

You called him a Somalian twig is is a racist trope but you wouldnt know this in your little world in Peshawar.

Jokeres is an avg player, will which is why no big club wanted him for half the money of Isak. If you understood footy and watched the 2 matches v Utd and LFC, you'd know he is way overarted by Arsenal fans and some others.

 

[SherWaqar]

What African country has he come from? Apologies if I mistook him for a Somalian.

Eritrea I believe

 

[Mamoon]

You called him a Somalian twig is is a racist trope but you wouldnt know this in your little world in Peshawar.

Jokeres is an avg player, will which is why no big club wanted him for half the money of Isak. If you understood footy and watched the 2 matches v Utd and LFC, you'd know he is way overarted by Arsenal fans and some others.

Yes, the average player was the highest scorer across all European leagues, was the top scorer in the UNL, has a hat-trick vs City in the UCL and has scored same no of goals for Sweden as Isak in the same era while playing 16 less matches.

He will also outscore Isak in the PL even when Isak has now moved to Liverpool. You can bookmark this but please don’t make excuses later.

 

[IronShield]

Eritrea I believe

Yes he is of Eritrean descent.

 

[Amjid Javed]

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Eritrea I believe

Yes he is of Eritrean descent.

Wrong, he is of Eratrean descent actually . . . .

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Also, though I'm loathe to speak highly of him there's levels to football and he is clear of Gyokeres

 

[Markhor]

Agents will always be sneaky and under handed, that's always been the case they are ultimately looking to make their clients and themselves the most money

In the case of footballers they can have at times short careers and need to do whats best for themselves. However, when players do sign contracts they have to be more respectful to what they have signed. Maybe now because we see and hear more things on social media, but it seems players and managers now just seen to think they can act like spoilt brats if they don't get there way. We can't have a situation now in football where if a player all of sudden doesn't want to stay, they Starr refusing to train or play. You can't do that in any other form of employment, so it's should be tolerated in football either. It sets a bad precedent, otherwise you could have 4 or 5 unhappy players at clubs behaving In such a way it just makes a mockery of signing a contract In 1st place.

Personal I think both isak and wissa should have played for their clubs in games this season until they were sold.

It's clear in both cases the players Agents have more than likely said, act like a child as that's only way your going to get sold. I can see more players now doing same as this type stuff just sets a bad precedent.

I think even I'd Newcastle had previous people in place, same mess would have occurred as player knew he had to behave in such a way to get out. Clubs can also handle situations better, allowing players to behave like this just means selling club ends up losing value on their asset. Maybe players should be forced to stump up cash out of their own pocket as part of transfers if they want to behave like this

The precedent was set a long time ago. What Isak and Wissa did is nothing new unfortunately, and if anything the Marc Guehi situation proves why players resort to such behaviour to get their way.

Guehi behaved thoroughly professionally and continued playing for Palace despite intimating that he wanted to leave. Palace accepted the bid, he even completes the first part of his medical before the club changed their mind at the last minute and pulled the plug.

Look at Man Utd and how they treated the so-called "Bomb Squad" by preventing them from training at Carrington until after the first team had gone. Those players still had years left on their contracts, so it cuts both ways.

The whole system of transfers needs proper regulation. There's too much nonsense that's allowed to happen.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Also, though I'm loathe to speak highly of him there's levels to football and he is clear of Gyokeres

This is hard to deny. In hindsight do you think Newcastle should have sold him early in the window, allowing you more options to replace or are you fully happy with the two you bought in?

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

The precedent was set a long time ago. What Isak and Wissa did is nothing new unfortunately, and if anything the Marc Guehi situation proves why players resort to such behaviour to get their way.

Guehi behaved thoroughly professionally and continued playing for Palace despite intimating that he wanted to leave. Palace accepted the bid, he even completes the first part of his medical before the club changed their mind at the last minute and pulled the plug.

Look at Man Utd and how they treated the so-called "Bomb Squad" by preventing them from training at Carrington until after the first team had gone. Those players still had years left on their contracts, so it cuts both ways.

The whole system of transfers needs proper regulation. There's too much nonsense that's allowed to happen.

Palace were in a bit of a difficult situation, the manager told the chairman if he sanctions the deal then he'll quit

Igor was meant to be the replacement but he decided to join West Ham, so a serious of unfortunate event

However long term Guehi will still come out of this well, he can sign a pre contract in Jan with a club abroad and on hefty wages or he can wait to join Liverpool in the summer on a free, where his signing on fee and wages will be a lot more

He's adored by Palace fans and they will still adore him when he eventually moves on

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

This is hard to deny. In hindsight do you think Newcastle should have sold him early in the window, allowing you more options to replace or are you fully happy with the two you bought in?

I don't think it would have necessarily helped, Liverpool came in with the low ball bid first and accepting that was never an option so we had to wait for another bid but also getting in the replacements was proving to be difficult

I'm actually very happy with the Woltemade and Wissa, though feel the Wissa fee is a bit on the high side, those signings weren't possible earlier because firstly we assumed Woltemade was away to Bayern and secondly Brentford were adamant Wissa was not for sale and kept bumping the price up

I am annoyed that the start of our season has been disrupted, based on performances if we had a proper striker (be that Isak or Wissa) we could easily be sitting on 7-9 points, just hope come the end of the season they don't prove to be crucial but I suspect they will as the margins from 3rd to 7th is likely to be very tight

 

[Markhor]

Palace were in a bit of a difficult situation, the manager told the chairman if he sanctions the deal then he'll quit

Igor was meant to be the replacement but he decided to join West Ham, so a serious of unfortunate event

However long term Guehi will still come out of this well, he can sign a pre contract in Jan with a club abroad and on hefty wages or he can wait to join Liverpool in the summer on a free, where his signing on fee and wages will be a lot more

He's adored by Palace fans and they will still adore him when he eventually moves on

I don't blame Glasner at all since he already lost his best player in Eze, and losing Guehi without an adequate replacement would've taken a wrecking ball to his Palace team who have Europe to contend. I'm not sure why we didn't offer Gomez in a swap but what's done is done.

Going back to earlier, would you agree or disagree that Newcastle's board is equally culpable as Isak, or at least partially culpable, in creating this messy situation ?

How could Mitchell be allowed to walk three weeks into the transfer window as SD ? It's akin to a surgeon walking out the theatre with the patient still cut open. Why did it take so long to appoint a CEO ? Obviously you're more in tune with Newcastle events than me but IMO as an outsider looking in - that gave Isak and his agent the opening to take their stance, and explained why Newcastle struggled for replacements as well as overpaying for 29 yr old Wissa who had a year left on his deal.

I obviously get why Newcastle fans are fuming with Isak, but surely with a strong and experienced DOF/CEO - this summer could've proceeded more on Newcastle's terms than it did ? Not saying Isak would've stayed, but I can't help but feel it suits PIF to paint Isak as a villain to mask their lack of proactiveness behind the scenes.

The only person to emerge with any credit is Eddie Howe who conducted himself in a very dignified manner and deserved more backing.