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Asia Cup: No change in schedule of India-Pakistan tie, India to play 2 ODIs in 2 days [Update#132]

Itachi said:
Not getting the point here to be honest.
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The schedule is done intentionally as i have not seen such schedule in any major tournaments in recent times.ACC is not even apologetic about this schedule and says BCCI is not raised official complaint,but main question is why in first place such schedule created?
 
I can only laugh at the fake arrogance of Indian posters. I got to say if anyone digs their grave deep - its Indian fans. They chest beat all the time on how BCCI is the richest and most powerful yet are crying discrimination and foul when its clear to everyone that their own board is lying and taking them for a ride. Preferring to live in a fool's paradise and telling others that their 2nd XI is enough when deep down they are shivering at the thought of getting crushed again.
 
Slim said:
I can only laugh at the fake arrogance of Indian posters. I got to say if anyone digs their grave deep - its Indian fans. They chest beat all the time on how BCCI is the richest and most powerful yet are crying discrimination and foul when its clear to everyone that their own board is lying and taking them for a ride. Preferring to live in a fool's paradise and telling others that their 2nd XI is enough when deep down they are shivering at the thought of getting crushed again.
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The scheduling is poor....I think almost all Pak fans here accepted too barring you. Also, as I previously said BCCI only replied when media asked them about the scheduling. They never intented to take the matter with ACC since they dont value this tournament much. You think they would hv kept quiet if its an ICC tourney?

India will rest its main players almost guaranteed. After playing 5 gruelling tests, you think main players will travel in UAE heat? Just bcoz opposition is Pakistan does not mean BCCI will risk injuries of its players. It will be Nidahas trophy kinda line-up with Rohit as captain and maybe Dhoni will play.

Rohit
Dhawan
Rahul
Iyer/Pant
Raina
Dhoni/Pant
Pandya
Sundar/Kuldeep
Chahal
Sriraj/Thakur
Bumrah? (Maybe)

The team will be something similar to this. Obviously Pak will start as a favorite but they have to play good cricket to beat the above lot.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
The scheduling is poor....I think almost all Pak fans here accepted too barring you. Also, as I previously said BCCI only replied when media asked them about the scheduling. They never intented to take the matter with ACC since they dont value this tournament much. You think they would hv kept quiet if its an ICC tourney?

India will rest its main players almost guaranteed. After playing 5 gruelling tests, you think main players will travel in UAE heat? Just bcoz opposition is Pakistan does not mean BCCI will risk injuries of its players. It will be Nidahas trophy kinda line-up with Rohit as captain and maybe Dhoni will play.

Rohit
Dhawan
Rahul
Iyer/Pant
Raina
Dhoni/Pant
Pandya
Sundar/Kuldeep
Chahal
Sriraj/Thakur
Bumrah? (Maybe)

The team will be something similar to this. Obviously Pak will start as a favorite but they have to play good cricket to beat the above lot.
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LOL. Looks like Indian team is going to give you guys a perfect excuse. :23:
 
Slim said:
LOL. Looks like Indian team is going to give you guys a perfect excuse. :23:
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There is no excuse it is just poor scheduling. All Indian players will be back after 2 month long UK tour and many of them might be carrying niggles. The last thing we want is our main players breaking down and missing in action for a long time. India has a hard Australian tour later this year, Asia cup is not important. Rohit Sharma and Dhoni will be sure starters, the rest will be decided only after the tour ends. Kohli is surely not playing.
 
Slim said:
I can only laugh at the fake arrogance of Indian posters. I got to say if anyone digs their grave deep - its Indian fans. They chest beat all the time on how BCCI is the richest and most powerful yet are crying discrimination and foul when its clear to everyone that their own board is lying and taking them for a ride. Preferring to live in a fool's paradise and telling others that their 2nd XI is enough when deep down they are shivering at the thought of getting crushed again.
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BCCI IS the richest board in the world of cricket. But being rich doesn't stop you from getting discriminated. Others become jealous of your success and pride. And hence, there'll be more discrimination than ever. That's a common human psychology.
 
Unfair? Yes.

Why speaking now ???

Probably because it provides the perfect smokescreen for an inadvertent loss to Pakistan.
 
I do think the scheduling is stupid but don't think bcci didnt know about it. More likely they didnt think it was a problem till the indian media made a fuss about it so now are saying we didn't know.
As this match is just an additional pak vs Ind match to make money won't really effect the tournament in any real way
 
Canford Cliffs said:
Who said Indian public dont care about Indo-Pak games? I personally love them. But Asia cup is not an important tournament for BCCI...hence they hardly hosts them. With bigger tournaments coming, they will ensure key players are well rested. I can give you in writing (and mark this post) that India will sent very similar team it did sent for Nidahas trophy. It has nothing to do with Pakistan...its about managing workloads of our own players.

BTW did you just compare ICC Champions trophy final with an Asia cup dead rubber game? Sigh
:yk
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i know it is general trend from indian fans to say they don,t care about bilateral and non icc events like

asia cup against pak but the fact is there is no dead rubber in PAK/IND matches and both team try

to win no matter what it takes .

yeah i did compare CT to asia cup because that was last time we played against india .asia cup is other

tourney where we only see pak/ind matches.you would have point if we both team were playing bilaterail

which they are not
 
Canford Cliffs said:
Ok so what you are saying is before the schedule was announced, ACC contacted BCCI and said...hey BCCI we are doing this farce and scheduling back to back games for you team with one involving against Pakistan. And BCCI agreed whole heartedly. Hahaha...this script might work well in bollywood but for sure it didnt happen in real world.

Organizers are obliged to inform the boards about tournament dates so that respective boards can sort out the team logistics. But only ACC members have the right to decide which team will play whom and when.
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i think you need to remove your blue tinted glass and admit bcci is equally at fault acc both are

responsible for it but may be i am asking too much........
 
saeed5646 said:
i think you need to remove your blue tinted glass and admit bcci is equally at fault acc both are

responsible for it but may be i am asking too much........
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BCCI may guilty of ignorance or even its own arrogance but why ACC prepared such a schedule targeting only India?
 
saeed5646 said:
as i said earlier acc have not done right but a strong stance from bcci would have push the acc change the

fixtures
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That doesn't make BCCI culprit here.Main culprit is still ACC.If they can't even create a schedule without discrimination they shouldn't handle tourney in future.
 
TheLastGreatMan said:
That doesn't make BCCI culprit here.Main culprit is still ACC.If they can't even create a schedule without discrimination they shouldn't handle tourney in future.
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than no point of getting upset just play according to schedule .good luck with back to back matches

in uae
 
saeed5646 said:
Who said acc have done right? .

You do have idea when any major tournment is organize it is send to the respective board after there confirmation the organizer announced the schedual .So if bcci did not have any problem in first place why they did agree that time and why now just complaining on the media about it?.
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And my post was addressing exactly that issue. ACC has made a mockery of themselves and its head along with the individuals who were responsible for preparing this nonsensical schedule should be hold accountable and punished accordingly for this utter mismanagement.

Secondly, it seems BCCI was unaware about the schedule or perhaps ACC later revised the schedule without informing the BCCI to put India in an uncomfortable situation. If BCCI was well aware about this ridiculous scheduling, they wouldn't have made a fuss about it now just because few former cricketers r criticizing the schedule.

India is well within their right to protest against this discrimination, especially when they r the primary team in this tournament and the current title holder. Most people will watch this tournament because of INDIA, not because of all the other comparatively weaker team who all reside at the bottom of the ranking.
 
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RainMan_ said:
And my post was addressing exactly that issue. ACC has made a mockery of themselves and its head along with the individuals who were responsible for preparing this nonsensical schedule should be hold accountable and punished accordingly for this utter mismanagement.

Secondly, it seems BCCI was unaware about the schedule or perhaps ACC later revised the schedule without informing the BCCI to put India in an uncomfortable situation. If BCCI was well aware about this ridiculous scheduling, they wouldn't have made a fuss about it now just because few former cricketers r criticizing the schedule.

India is well within their right to protest against this discrimination, especially when they r the primary team in this tournament and the current title holder. Most people will watch this tournament because of INDIA, not because of all the other comparatively weaker team who all reside at the bottom of the ranking.
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ACC may have sent the Start and final match dates,that’s only important for to any individual boards.
 
RainMan_ said:
And my post was addressing exactly that issue. ACC has made a mockery of themselves and its head along with the individuals who were responsible for preparing this nonsensical schedule should be hold accountable and punished accordingly for this utter mismanagement.

Secondly, it seems BCCI was unaware about the schedule or perhaps ACC later revised the schedule without informing the BCCI to put India in an uncomfortable situation. If BCCI was well aware about this ridiculous scheduling, they wouldn't have made a fuss about it now just because few former cricketers r criticizing the schedule.
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Theirs no way on earth this happened. Schedule can never be finalized even if it's revised or whatsoever. BCCI purposely confirmed it and are now mourning after the people protested. And if it were to be true, why didn't BCCI come up with this excuse that the revised schedule was not confirmed by us? Off course they're lying!
 
Bcci , if it really wanted to play arm twisting, it would have done so easily by now. After all if it can do that to icc , acc is easy pie
 
giri26 said:
There is no excuse it is just poor scheduling. All Indian players will be back after 2 month long UK tour and many of them might be carrying niggles. The last thing we want is our main players breaking down and missing in action for a long time. India has a hard Australian tour later this year, Asia cup is not important. Rohit Sharma and Dhoni will be sure starters, the rest will be decided only after the tour ends. Kohli is surely not playing.
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Its weird you say Sharma and Dhawan are sure starters. Kohli has had plenty of rest throughout the year, while Sharma and Dhawan have played pretty much every game. Shouldn’t you rest all three to prepare for a long Australian tour?
 
Usman Chadda said:
Its weird you say Sharma and Dhawan are sure starters. Kohli has had plenty of rest throughout the year, while Sharma and Dhawan have played pretty much every game. Shouldn’t you rest all three to prepare for a long Australian tour?
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I said Dhoni and not Dhawan. Rohit Sharma doesn't play Tests and he will be going to Asia cup after a break of more than a month. He should be fine to play for a week.
 
Just goes to show money ≠ competence/clout.
 
TheLastGreatMan said:
That's before IPL..now it's really doesn't matter much..even CT lose in final didn't became big news.Few years back it should have been different story.

Also right now in India we have multiple other sports leagues are getting popular so people no longer takes Cricket results as seriously as they used to earlier.
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LOL, next you are gonna say you come on a Pakistani cricket site to sell Gol Gappay!
 
TheLastGreatMan said:
Not bothered,just highlighting the discrimination.This is not a really important tourney any way.
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So you spent 20 some posts in this thread doing what, saving the environment or what?

Stay quite or move on to another topic if this Asia Cup is not that important
 
Monsee said:
So you spent 20 some posts in this thread doing what, saving the environment or what?

Stay quite or move on to another topic if this Asia Cup is not that important
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I am bothered about discrimination against my country,Asia cup or Cycle agarbatti cup doesn't matter.
 
giri26 said:
I said Dhoni and not Dhawan. Rohit Sharma doesn't play Tests and he will be going to Asia cup after a break of more than a month. He should be fine to play for a week.
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My bad. So I guess you're expecting Sharma to be the captain? I still don't believe India will send a 2nd string team. Will end up being an absolute disaster
 
TheLastGreatMan said:
Actually this schedule is done solely for Money.Otherwise why should you put a qualifier in between India and Pakistan?
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How?

Each side plays the same number of games and the "money making" games aren't even scheduled for prime time. #pseudologic
 
mak36 said:
How?

Each side plays the same number of games and the "money making" games aren't even scheduled for prime time. #pseudologic
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Really? Then why can't move India or Pakistan to other group? Also why you need a qualifier who is goign to lose both matches badly? Why 2 groups of 3 teams and then another round before final instead of Semi finals?
 
India-Pakistan match date likely to be rescheduled

Dubai: The India-Pakistan match in the Asia Cup to be held on September 19 at the Dubai International Stadium is likely to be changed.

It is understood that India want a rescheduling of their fixtures in the Asia Cup matches to be held in UAE from September 15.

As per the present schedule India will be playing back to back matches on September 18 and 19.

Many former cricketers as well officials feel that the match schedule for the India team is too tight and it is wrong to make the team play matches, especially 50-over contests, during two consecutive days.

Though India, the defending champions, will be playing an Asian qualifier on September 18, the need for a change in date has become imperative as they play their arch rivals Pakistan on September 19.

It is after a gap of 12 years that India and Pakistan play each other in the UAE.

Leading the call for the change of schedule is former Indian opener Virender Sehwag. He remarked that he is shocked by the schedule: “No one plays back to back matches now in One Day International matches. It is wrong to have scheduled matches for India in such a manner.”

Sehwag has even pointed out that even when India play T20 matches a two-day gap is given.

“To play two One Day International matches without a break in Dubai’s hot weather is not correct scheduling,” added Sehwag.

India is in Group A along with Pakistan and the qualifier while Group B consists of Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

The top two teams from each group will qualify for the Super 4 and while the top two teams from the Super 4 will play the final on September 28 in Dubai.

Many feel that Asia Cricket Council, has created the schedule like they do for a T20 tournament. Incidentally, the Asia Cup, which will be staging their 14th edition, has reverted to its traditional 50-over ODI format this year after opting for a Twenty20 format in 2016 in which India had emerged the champions.

For India, the Asia Cup commences immediately after the end of the five Test series in England.

Incidentally, India will be playing their fifth Test of the series in England from September 7 to 11 which leave some of the players very little time to return to India and fly into Dubai.

Though India play their first match only on September 18, their skipper Virat Kohli is expected here for the trophy launch before the start of the tournament from September 15.

With regard to India playing back-to-back ODIs, many countries now follow a policy of giving at least 48 hours rest for a player to recover before playing their next match.

Asia Cup officials insist that the schedule for the tournament was finalised only after consulting all the teams in the tournament and that the hue and cry over schedule is unwarranted.

Some feel that what may have irked the Indians is that Pakistan, after playing against the qualifier on September 16, get a two-day break before taking on India while India plays Pakistan without a break.

https://gulfnews.com/sport/cricket/...match-date-likely-to-be-rescheduled-1.2262632
 
Fantastic news...we are talking about a fresh Indian team taking on Pakistan. Hmmm....now we know who will win the game :srini
 
Canford Cliffs said:
BTW the article reads Kohli will be in Dubai on 15 sept to launch the trophy. Is that confirmed news?? Is the King playing???
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Sounds like they just assume he'll be there as he's the captain. The article doesn't really have any valuable information, sounds like speculation.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
BTW the article reads Kohli will be in Dubai on 15 sept to launch the trophy. Is that confirmed news?? Is the King playing???
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King is Lebron and only Lebron is King, this is a guy who won his city a championship after 52 years, before him they were not even contestants.

What has Kohli done? Come on "Cliffs".
 
The BCCI and the Emirates Cricket Board signed an agreement today for the United Arab Emirates to host the 2018 edition of the Asia Cup, thus officially handed over its hosting rights to the UAE board.

“The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) and the Emirates Cricket Board signed an agreement today for the United Arab Emirates to host the 2018 edition of the Asia Cup,” the BCCI stated in a release.

Earlier in April this year, The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) had shifted the 50-over Asia Cup from India to UAE as the BCCI could not get permission from the central government to host Pakistan.

The agreement was signed in Dubai with the BCCI being represented by its acting secretary Amitabh Chaudhary and CEO Rahul Johri. The chairman of the Emirates Cricket Board, His Highness Sheikh Nahyan bin Mubarak Al Nahyan, signed on their behalf.

In 2016, the Asia Cup was held in the T20 format as the teams wanted to prepare for the World T20, which was scheduled just after the event. This time it will be a 50-over event as teams are now gearing up for next year’s ODI World Cup in England.

Afghanistan, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka will take part in the tournament. They will be joined by a sixth team — the winner of the Asian Cricket Council qualifier event.

The tournament will be held from September 15 to 28 in Abu Dhabi and Dubai.

The BCCI couldn’t procure relevant clearance from government security agencies to host Pakistan.

Earlier this year, the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) decided that the tournament will be shifted to UAE but India will be hosting the tournament.

BCCI acting secretary Choudhary said:”We are thankful to the Emirates Cricket Board for hosting the 2018 Asia Cup on behalf of the BCCI. We will see some of the sport’s powerhouse nations go head-to-head for ultimate glory and I am confident that cricket fans around the world will enjoy every moment of this prestigious event.”

Since organisation would involve financial transactions in foreign currency, a senior BCCI office bearer had pointed out that FEMA (Foreign Exchanges Management Act) rules need to be thoroughly checked after the IPL II fiasco when Cricket South Africa hosted the cash-rich league in 2009.

The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) sanctions USD 2.5 million to the hosts for organisational purposes but it was pointed out that operational costs shoots up in the UAE.

The BCCI release does not state what will be the profit sharing mode from the ticket sales. The TV broadcast money goes to ACC.

The major attraction of this tournament is two assured Indo-Pakistan clashes.

From ECB, it’s chairman said, “It is a matter of great pride for the UAE to host a prestigious event like the Asia Cup. Our country is home to a large section of people from the participating nations and we feel privileged and excited by the opportunity to bring their favourite sport right here to their doorstep.

“This is the biggest cricketing event to be held in the UAE and we will ensure every support to make the 2018 Asia Cup a huge success.”

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/...sting-rights-to-emirates-cricket-board-736495
 
Abdullah719 said:
India-Pakistan match date likely to be rescheduled

Dubai: The India-Pakistan match in the Asia Cup to be held on September 19 at the Dubai International Stadium is likely to be changed.

It is understood that India want a rescheduling of their fixtures in the Asia Cup matches to be held in UAE from September 15.

As per the present schedule India will be playing back to back matches on September 18 and 19.

Many former cricketers as well officials feel that the match schedule for the India team is too tight and it is wrong to make the team play matches, especially 50-over contests, during two consecutive days.

Though India, the defending champions, will be playing an Asian qualifier on September 18, the need for a change in date has become imperative as they play their arch rivals Pakistan on September 19.

It is after a gap of 12 years that India and Pakistan play each other in the UAE.

Leading the call for the change of schedule is former Indian opener Virender Sehwag. He remarked that he is shocked by the schedule: “No one plays back to back matches now in One Day International matches. It is wrong to have scheduled matches for India in such a manner.”

Sehwag has even pointed out that even when India play T20 matches a two-day gap is given.

“To play two One Day International matches without a break in Dubai’s hot weather is not correct scheduling,” added Sehwag.

India is in Group A along with Pakistan and the qualifier while Group B consists of Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

The top two teams from each group will qualify for the Super 4 and while the top two teams from the Super 4 will play the final on September 28 in Dubai.

Many feel that Asia Cricket Council, has created the schedule like they do for a T20 tournament. Incidentally, the Asia Cup, which will be staging their 14th edition, has reverted to its traditional 50-over ODI format this year after opting for a Twenty20 format in 2016 in which India had emerged the champions.

For India, the Asia Cup commences immediately after the end of the five Test series in England.

Incidentally, India will be playing their fifth Test of the series in England from September 7 to 11 which leave some of the players very little time to return to India and fly into Dubai.

Though India play their first match only on September 18, their skipper Virat Kohli is expected here for the trophy launch before the start of the tournament from September 15.

With regard to India playing back-to-back ODIs, many countries now follow a policy of giving at least 48 hours rest for a player to recover before playing their next match.

Asia Cup officials insist that the schedule for the tournament was finalised only after consulting all the teams in the tournament and that the hue and cry over schedule is unwarranted.



https://gulfnews.com/sport/cricket/...match-date-likely-to-be-rescheduled-1.2262632
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Wait, I though India were likely to play a "B" or "C" team, why would Kohli be captaining?
 
Whoever had scheduled the game needs to check his head.

Group Stage
15 September (SAT) - Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka (Dubai)
16 September (SUN) - Pakistan vs Qualifier (Dubai)
17 September (MON) - Sri Lanka vs Afghanistan (Abu Dhabi)
18 September (TUE) - India vs Qualifier (Dubai)
19 September (WED) - India vs Pakistan (Dubai)
20 September (THU) - Bangladesh vs Afghanistan (Abu Dhabi)


Super Four
21 September (FRI) - Group A Winner vs Group B Runner-up (Dubai)
21 September (FRI) - Group B Winner vs Group A Runner-up (Abu Dhabi)
23 September (SUN) - Group A Winner vs Group A Runner-up (Dubai)
23 September (SUN) - Group B Winner vs Group B Runner-up (Abu Dhabi)
25 September (TUE) - Group A Winner vs Group B Winner (Dubai)
26 September (TUE) - Group A Runner-up vs Group B Runner-up (Abu Dhabi)

Final
28 September (THU) - Asia Cup 2018 Final (Dubai)


In preliminary rounds, we are playing 1st & last game, while IND is playing back to back game. Easily last 2 games could have been exchanged to give IND some breather. Logical as well - Friday being start of week-end, they could have started the game (PAK-IND) from 4PM, or even 5PM and continue till 12AM/1AM. Also, I see every game starts at 1:00AM EDT, which means 9AM in UAE - that's every game is Day game under scorching sun, and at 10-11AM South Asian time on working days. Finally, the decider is a Day game on Thursday!!!!


Then, there was absolutely no reason to play 2 games at same day/same time and keep one day in between. They could have easily slotted one game each day, one day gap after 4 games (to make sure no team is playing back to back game), and play Final on 29th (Friday).

Also, if one of BD/AFG ends as Group B runners-up, means they are also playing back to back game very next day.

Extremely ill planned schedule and no clue why there is no D/N game - only good point I can say is, IND/PAK being in same group, 2nd round game between them will be on Sunday, which is good for TV audience.
 
There will be no change in the fixture of India and Pakistan's Asia Cup fixture. The two teams will face each other on September 19.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has confirmed that there will be no change in the schedule of India-Pakistan Asia Cup 2018 tie, that is to be played on September 19. It is to be noted that India will be facing Pakistan without taking a rest as the Virat Kohli-led team is slated to face one of the qualifying teams on September 18 followed by the game against Pakistan the very next day. Few of the former cricketers raised their concerns regarding the scheduling.

A report in Cricketnext had suggested that BCCI was unhappy with the schedule. It was hoped that the board might look to ask for a change in the fixture but a report in The Mumbai Mirror suggests that Rahul Johri, CEO of BCCI, has clarified that there will be no change in the schedule of the historic game.
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As per the report, the Indian team will land in India on September 12 and will again meet in Mumbai on September 16 before flying out to Dubai. Men in Blue will take part in just one practice session before playing two ODIs on consecutive days.

(India are playing a five-match Test series in England. Photo credits: AP)

India team is currently in England where the visitors are playing a five-match Test series. The members of the team landed in the UK in the month of June. Prior to England, they took on Ireland in two T20Is following which India played a limited-overs series against England. The five-match Test series between India and England kicked off on August 1.

It will be after a period of more than one year that India and Pakistan will be facing each other. The arch-rivals last had a see off in the final of the ICC Champions Trophy 2017, where the Men in Green wrested the trophy from Virat Kohli and co.

The two teams also met during the league stage of the tournament, where India emerged out to be the winning team. There are likely chances of India and Pakistan coming against each other twice during the Asia Cup

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...n-in-blue-to-play-two-odis-in-two-days/271716
 
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