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Asians make up 80% of child groomers – study

Cover Drive Six said:
Thread title need to be change "Pakistani Origin make up 80% of child groomers in UK – study"
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Yeah thats fair. It's unfair to lump in Indians and Sri Lankans with these degenerates.

The overwhelming majority of those in these cases were Pakistanis.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Thread title need to be change "Pakistani Origin make up 80% of child groomers in UK – study"
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Absolutely not. I am the OP and I posted the article exactly as it was published at the time. We cannot change the title just because some Indian posters don't like reading about Indian perverts.
 
Rajdeep said:
Oh no...why bump this thread again? My friend @Cpt. Rishwat will get touchy once more and will defend these rapists at all costs.

Nevertheless, voices are getting louder


But but but...Hindutva bro

:rabada2
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It was me who opened the thread in the first place numbskull. I don't hide from issues like Indian posters are pretending to have missed the social media storm over Indian defecating on beaches in Canada.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Absolutely not. I am the OP and I posted the article exactly as it was published at the time. We cannot change the title just because some Indian posters don't like reading about Indian perverts.
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That is the reason why this needs to be updated now :D and the remaining 20% should also be added, whether they are Indian or from any other group.
 
Rajdeep said:
100%. This has nothing to do with Indians, Nepalis, Srilankans, Indonesians or other Asian countries. It is only and only Pakistanis. The agenda driven liberals to sound politically correct and not to offend a single community have grouped them as Asians but everyone is aware of the truth. It is high time we accept the truth and works towards course correction rather than peddling mud at others.
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You need to complain to the agenda driven liberals then. Explain to them how agenda driven Indians are upset that Pakistanis aren't singled out specifically for agenda driven dog whistle headlines.
 
Rajdeep said:
Calling Pakistani grooming gangs as Pakistani grooming gangs is not agenda driven...it is called calling spade a spade. You are not able to digest it since these rapists are from your community.

#FACT
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But you are only concerned about Pakistani grooming gangs. The vast majority of groomers are white and that is excluding the thousands who trawl Asia for sex tourism where the child protection laws are lax. That means your only concern is that Pakistanis get a bad name, you don't actually care about the victims at all.

#FACT
 
@Cpt. Rishwat has not for once discussed the topic on this thread and talked about the ample evidence, videos or interviews of victims presented here. His only beef and concern is why Indians, whom he calls as Hindutva's are highlighting these crimes. How dare they? That is exactly what is happening in this thread i.e shooting the messengers.

#FACTS
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
But you are only concerned about Pakistani grooming gangs. The vast majority of groomers are white and that is excluding the thousands who trawl Asia for sex tourism where the child protection laws are lax. That means your only concern is that Pakistanis get a bad name, you don't actually care about the victims at all.

#FACT
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The vast majority of Asian groomers are of Pakistani origin.
The majority of the perpetrators have been identified as men of Pakistani roots. This was even noted by former UK Home Secretary Suella Braverman.

#FACT
 
Rajdeep said:
@Cpt. Rishwat has not for once discussed the topic on this thread and talked about the ample evidence, videos or interviews of victims presented here. His only beef and concern is why Indians, whom he calls as Hindutva's are highlighting these crimes. How dare they? That is exactly what is happening in this thread i.e shooting the messengers.

#FACTS
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The thread has almost 900 replies, pretty sure I have already discussed the topic pretty extensively including possible motivations and outcomes. But if you insist that you want to discuss only grooming from the perspective that they are carried out by Pakistanis, then fine we can go there again IF you actually want to discuss it with depth rather than shout headlines.

Why do you believe Pakistanis have this motivation to groom girls above all other ethnic groups?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The thread has almost 900 replies, pretty sure I have already discussed the topic pretty extensively including possible motivations and outcomes. But if you insist that you want to discuss only grooming from the perspective that they are carried out by Pakistanis, then fine we can go there again IF you actually want to discuss it with depth rather than shout headlines.

Why do you believe Pakistanis have this motivation to groom girls above all other ethnic groups?
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Listen to them, and you'll get the answer. :D
Some guys are saying they believe pedophilia is legal in the UK:ROFLMAO:, while others claim they are following their law.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1877602482878296541


https://twitter.com/x/status/1825283037007118348
 
Cover Drive Six said:
The vast majority of Asian groomers are of Pakistani origin.
The majority of the perpetrators have been identified as men of Pakistani roots. This was even noted by former UK Home Secretary Suella Braverman.

#FACT
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Obviously Suhella Doggermann has issues with Muslims in General.

www.theguardian.com

Braverman’s claim about ethnicity of grooming gangs was false, regulator rules

Mail on Sunday issues correction over opinion piece by home secretary claiming ‘almost all’ child grooming gangs were British-Pakistani
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Cover Drive Six said:
Listen to them, and you'll get the answer. :D
Some guys are saying they believe pedophilia is legal in the UK:ROFLMAO:, while others claim they are following their law.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1877602482878296541


https://twitter.com/x/status/1825283037007118348
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@Cover Drive Six do you believe this guy then please explain this.
...... @Rajdeep says they are 100 percent Pakistanis. I have used the same person's account that you quoted above.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1884173850482708622
 
 
Oh dear. Looks like the hindutvas were so determined to nail the Pakistanis that they forgot their white British Raj don't really like the fudge brownies much either. :ROFLMAO:
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The thread has almost 900 replies, pretty sure I have already discussed the topic pretty extensively including possible motivations and outcomes. But if you insist that you want to discuss only grooming from the perspective that they are carried out by Pakistanis, then fine we can go there again IF you actually want to discuss it with depth rather than shout headlines.

Why do you believe Pakistanis have this motivation to groom girls above all other ethnic groups?
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This thread is about Pakistani grooming gangs. So I am not sure why should we discuss on any other topic. 900 replies or not is irrelevant.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Oh dear. Looks like the hindutvas were so determined to nail the Pakistanis that they forgot their white British Raj don't really like the fudge brownies much either. :ROFLMAO:
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Why would hindutvas try to nail Pakistanis when it is proven in UK court that these grooming gang members are from Pakistan. Are you taking some imaginative solace from this thread? LOL.

Whether white people like Indians or not is irrelevant to this thread or discussion. We must discuss about Pakistani grooming gangs but usual suspects are desperately trying every distraction tactics.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
O and what about these indians 😕
https://twitter.com/x/status/1874805581237932067
https://twitter.com/x/status/1876648420762407261

https://twitter.com/x/status/1860795791637401863
https://twitter.com/x/status/1851353368125485407
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What is the point of these tweets? Ofcourse there are Indians here who are criminals.

However, we are talking about Pakistani grooming gangs.

It is like you open a thread about a muslim guy beaten up in India and I post 10 videos of minority attacks in Pakistan.

Kuch bhi kar lo dost....Pakistanis have been ashamed in UK due to these grooming gangs. First they were linked only to terrorism and now to rape gangs too. Hiding behind India won't help.
 
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
What's telling is that the hindutva posters who have shouted loudly about the Pakistan connections to grooming, when they are asked should we look for racial connections to all disgusting crimes, go silent or say this thread is about Asian groomers. They are also then quick to say that it should be correctly labelled as Pakistani groomer not Asian.

So this tells us they are not really concerned about victims of grooming or their welfare, but their real desire is that Pakistanis in Britain get tarred with this reputation.
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They couldn't care less about the victims of these terrible crimes, they see it as a chance to spread hate and anger against us. The irony that Ind has a massive problem with rape and abuse isn't lost on anyone bar them
 
Rajdeep said:
What is the point of these tweets? Ofcourse there are Indians here who are criminals.

However, we are talking about Pakistani grooming gangs. As a mod you should stick to the topic rather than this plain whataboutery.

It is like you open a thread about a muslim guy beaten up in India and I post 10 videos of minority attacks in Pakistan.

Kuch bhi kar lo dost....Pakistanis have been ashamed in UK due to these grooming gangs. First they were linked only to terrorism and now to rape gangs too. Hiding behind India won't help.
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It was your Indian pal @Cover Drive Six who first posted these tweets, only he probably didn't realise his British Raj had also tweeted about Indian pervs. The thread is about Asian grooming and these videos show exactly why it was titled as such. Indian pervs were flying under the radar until your friend showed us the white right are taking matters into their own hands.
 
Bewal Express said:
They couldn't care less about the victims of these terrible crimes, they see it as a chance to spread hate and anger against us. The irony that Ind has a massive problem with rape and abuse isn't lost on anyone bar them
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They are so desperate to sling mud at Pakistanis they even started retweeting white power content. Just as well the established media are more mindful of what they release to the public or there would be anarchy on the streets. And I am not a fan of established media either, they indulge in more low level dog whistle content, but at least there is some accountability.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
It was your Indian pal @Cover Drive Six who first posted these tweets, only he probably didn't realise his British Raj had also tweeted about Indian pervs. The thread is about Asian grooming and these videos show exactly why it was titled as such. Indian pervs were flying under the radar until your friend showed us the white right are taking matters into their own hands.
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It was not his British Raj. When Britain was ruling India, your forefathers were also Indian. Then after Britishers left India, converted muslims of India didnt wanted to live with Hindu majority and demanded a seperate country. That is you genesis as a Pakistani. So next time pls be mindful of passing the British Raj as yours. Also, educate your other brothers from Bradford if possible.

None of these videos highlighted grooming gangs. It is one or two people acting in their own capacity. Grooming gang is an organized crime where vulnerable girls been preyed upon by a gang of men and all of them belonging from Pakistan. So it doesn't matter how hard you try to pass this grooming gang as Asian gangs, its not. They are Pakistani gangs and are being called exactly for that.

Watch this video, especially from 51:00 onwards

 
Bewal Express said:
They couldn't care less about the victims of these terrible crimes, they see it as a chance to spread hate and anger against us. The irony that Ind has a massive problem with rape and abuse isn't lost on anyone bar them
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That is your assumption but we are all here to discuss the case in hand. Same can be said when multiple threads opened on minority issues in India? The aim is to spread hate and propaganda against India when Pakistan itself has massive issue with minorities. Work both ways.
 
Rajdeep said:
What is the point of these tweets? Ofcourse there are Indians here who are criminals.

However, we are talking about Pakistani grooming gangs.

It is like you open a thread about a muslim guy beaten up in India and I post 10 videos of minority attacks in Pakistan.

Kuch bhi kar lo dost....Pakistanis have been ashamed in UK due to these grooming gangs. First they were linked only to terrorism and now to rape gangs too. Hiding behind India won't help.
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Nope man, no easy exits here. It is an "Asian groomers" no Pakistan restricted thread. You can't go Scot free on a Pak forum by making sweeping statements as they are "100 percent" Pakistanis behind it. Instead retreat from that statement or present proof. Again if it's 100 percents then how come these Indians rapists here?
 
Rajdeep said:
That is your assumption but we are all here to discuss the case in hand. Same can be said when multiple threads opened on minority issues in India? The aim is to spread hate and propaganda against India when Pakistan itself has massive issue with minorities. Work both ways.
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Why just the case in hand. Abuse is abuse, no matter who the abusers and what their background is. You guys( the right wing haters) wanted to make out that it's just PKS and Muslims that do these horrible things. But these are a problem in all communities, it's just the methodology that is different. A child abused by her own father in her bedroom is no different to a child abused PK men in towns in England or gangs of Inds raping and killing children in Ind.
 
Rajdeep said:
It was not his British Raj. When Britain was ruling India, your forefathers were also Indian. Then after Britishers left India, converted muslims of India didnt wanted to live with Hindu majority and demanded a seperate country. That is you genesis as a Pakistani. So next time pls be mindful of passing the British Raj as yours. Also, educate your other brothers from Bradford if possible.

None of these videos highlighted grooming gangs. It is one or two people acting in their own capacity. Grooming gang is an organized crime where vulnerable girls been preyed upon by a gang of men and all of them belonging from Pakistan. So it doesn't matter how hard you try to pass this grooming gang as Asian gangs, its not. They are Pakistani gangs and are being called exactly for that.

Watch this video, especially from 51:00 onwards

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So you quote Petersen, a guy that got humiliated by Morgan on Yaxley Lennon. Yaxley Lennon has used these crimes to become a millionaire. A bankrupt that had no cash has the Zionists and other haters throwing money at him. Shouldn't he have given the money to the victims?
 
Bewal Express said:
So you quote Petersen, a guy that got humiliated by Morgan on Yaxley Lennon. Yaxley Lennon has used these crimes to become a millionaire. A bankrupt that had no cash has the Zionists and other haters throwing money at him. Shouldn't he have given the money to the victims?
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Okay when given proof, start questioning the person's credibility. And no, I was not talking about Petersen. Watch the video from 51st minute and what that black lady had to say. What Yaxley Lennon did or who owned whom in a debate or whom Zionists throwing the money on had nothing to do with this discussion. None of these disapprove that Pakistani rape gangs exist in UK. 10 on 10 on distraction though.
 
Bewal Express said:
Why just the case in hand. Abuse is abuse, no matter who the abusers and what their background is. You guys( the right wing haters) wanted to make out that it's just PKS and Muslims that do these horrible things. But these are a problem in all communities, it's just the methodology that is different. A child abused by her own father in her bedroom is no different to a child abused PK men in towns in England or gangs of Inds raping and killing children in Ind.
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Okay next time when a thread opened on Beef lynching's or minority attacks in India keep these piece of advices in mind. As I said it works both ways and you have been in this forum long enough to know how it works in this section.
 
Rajdeep said:
Okay when given proof, start questioning the person's credibility. And no, I was not talking about Petersen. Watch the video from 51st minute and what that black lady had to say. What Yaxley Lennon did or who owned whom in a debate or whom Zionists throwing the money on had nothing to do with this discussion. None of these disapprove that Pakistani rape gangs exist in UK. 10 on 10 on distraction though.
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What did he do? The story was broken by the Times newspaper. He used to scam money. He nearly collapsed trials in his desperation to get attention. Facts, just facts. Explain why he has become a millionaire and why he hasn't given the money to these girls he has used to make money if he was sincere
 
Bewal Express said:
What did he do? The story was broken by the Times newspaper. He used to scam money. He nearly collapsed trials in his desperation to get attention. Facts, just facts. Explain why he has become a millionaire and why he hasn't given the money to these girls he has used to make money if he was sincere
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And your point being? What has Tommy Robinson's character has got anything to do with this topic?

Even in that video Piers Morgan is clearly saying he doesn't support Robinson or his agenda but he was right is highlighting this grooming scandal issue.

We are shooting down the messenger again I see.
 
Rajdeep said:
Okay next time when a thread opened on Beef lynching's or minority attacks in India keep these piece of advices in mind. As I said it works both ways and you have been in this forum long enough to know how it works in this section.
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You do what you have to do. But you guys jump in with both feet. Look at who you quote on this forum. So once again what made these Scottish guys abuse these kids- their Scottishness or their whiteness or neither and they are evil people?
 
RexRex said:
Head in the sand' behaviour from Pak posters here is just :facepalm:

The statistics matter.
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They do. So what is it about Inds that makes them murder and rape people on such a massive scale. Is it their Hindu background or just their Ind culture.
 
Bewal Express said:
They do. So what is it about Inds that makes them murder and rape people on such a massive scale. Is it their Hindu background or just their Ind culture.
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What are stats on rape in India ?

Btw, nobody said grooming gang-ery is a part of pakistani or islamic culture, why r u so defensive ?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Oh dear. Looks like the hindutvas were so determined to nail the Pakistanis that they forgot their white British Raj don't really like the fudge brownies much either. :ROFLMAO:
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1. The "hindutvas" are an ocean away and don't hold much sway over the British judicial process. If people closer to home (British Pakistanis) are suffering media glare and the wrath of the law, it doesn't matter one jot what Indians, Somalians or Martians think.

2. The word "either" suggests that they don't like you in the first place (British Pakistanis), so once again, please consider my unsolicited advice to move to the land of Khamenei - where your views on the world at large receive more mainstream acceptance.
 
Varun said:
1. The "hindutvas" are an ocean away and don't hold much sway over the British judicial process. If people closer to home (British Pakistanis) are suffering media glare and the wrath of the law, it doesn't matter one jot what Indians, Somalians or Martians think.

2. The word "either" suggests that they don't like you in the first place (British Pakistanis), so once again, please consider my unsolicited advice to move to the land of Khamenei - where your views on the world at large receive more mainstream acceptance.
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Actually if you watch any of the neo-Nazi sting videos which have been posted by your Indian compadres, all of them are featuring 100% imports who can barely speak English. That goes for the Indians featured as well as the Pakistani.

So if you take the British out of the British Pakistani/Asian equation, what are you left with? I think you are left with people of subcontinental origin....the same place you are posting from. Now maybe we need to dig a little deeper on what it is about that place which spawns such degeneracy? :unsure:
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
So if you take the British out of the British Pakistani/Asian equation, what are you left with? I think you are left with people of subcontinental origin....the same place you are posting from. Now maybe we need to dig a little deeper on what it is about that place which spawns such degeneracy? :unsure:
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Isn't there a stigma for old white englishmen performing paedophilia antics?

Perhaps young pakistani males with british passports are simply aping this behavior from the elderly natives.

Or could be religion driven.
 
RexRex said:
Head in the sand' behaviour from Pak posters here is just :facepalm:

The statistics matter.
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Statistics depends on what information you are collecting and what reason you are collecting them for. They can be used to prove many things.

What mattered in this case was that Elon Musk tweeted about it and it lit a flame under the redneck vote base which was always his intent. Do you think he knew the statistics?
 
Farhan The Man said:
Isn't there a stigma for old white englishmen performing paedophilia antics?

Perhaps young pakistani males with british passports are simply aping this behavior from the elderly natives.

Or could be religion driven.
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They were all immigrants who could barely speak English being confronted in the videos posted by the proud white Brits which your Indian pals uploaded today. Perhaps you mean they were abused by elderly Englishmen back in the old country and came over here eager for some payback? :unsure:
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Statistics depends on what information you are collecting and what reason you are collecting them for. They can be used to prove many things.

What mattered in this case was that Elon Musk tweeted about it and it lit a flame under the redneck vote base which was always his intent. Do you think he knew the statistics?
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You definitely have no better knowledge than your Home secretary.
She said, "The majority of the perpetrators have been identified as men of Pakistani roots. This was even noted by former UK Home Secretary Suella Braverman".
 
Cover Drive Six said:
You definitely have no better knowledge than your Home secretary.
She said, "The majority of the perpetrators have been identified as men of Pakistani roots. This was even noted by former UK Home Secretary Suella Braverman".
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She is what has now famously been described as a fudge brownie. This denotes an ethnic person who is appointed to voice touchy racial opinions on behalf of white people. Priti Patel and Sajid Javed were given similar roles previously. Braverman has since been discredited for continually embarrassing the govt with crass remarks for which she had to apologise and was subsequently sacked from her position.
 
Farhan The Man said:
Attack the message, not the messenger.

Your juvenile habit of calling names, mislabels ensures your opinion is never taken seriously.
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I didn't attack the messenger, I quite clearly laid out that she was given a role which she fulfilled along with the fudgies before her. As for who should be taken seriously that is quite funny coming from you. By the way if you want to be taken seriously then quote the whole message, don't leave out the pertinent parts to try to misrepresent the post you are quoting.
 
Farhan The Man said:
Attack the message, not the messenger.

Your juvenile habit of calling names, mislabels ensures your opinion is never taken seriously.
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Yeah I have noticed this too. He keeps shooting the messanger and will blame everyone else except the culprits. Then he acts all surprised saying when have I defended the victims, there are 900 posts where I have condemned etc etc. Had he simply accepted the known fact that the culprits who were from Pakistan and were indeed wrong in raping innocent kids, this thread wouldn't have dragged so much. However, the classic distraction tactics by bringing Hindutva, white people and shooting down every messanger is the reason for such lengthy discussions. Ofcourse he won't do it in real life but internet me bolne me kya jaata hai.
 
Its imperative this Evil is RIGHTFULLY treated as a society issue which it is by calling out EVERY grooming gangs, Peados, of all ethnicities.

This way, innocent children will not fall in to the hands of these predators, if we follow the Toxic pointscoring agenda of some!
 
Rajdeep said:
Yeah I have noticed this too. He keeps shooting the messanger and will blame everyone else except the culprits. Then he acts all surprised saying when have I defended the victims, there are 900 posts where I have condemned etc etc. Had he simply accepted the known fact that the culprits who were from Pakistan and were indeed wrong in raping innocent kids, this thread wouldn't have dragged so much. However, the classic distraction tactics by bringing Hindutva, white people and shooting down every messanger is the reason for such lengthy discussions. Ofcourse he won't do it in real life but internet me bolne me kya jaata hai.
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You have typed something like 100 words there and I think they are all about me rather than the topic itself. Talk about shoot the messenger.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Statistics depends on what information you are collecting and what reason you are collecting them for. They can be used to prove many things.

What mattered in this case was that Elon Musk tweeted about it and it lit a flame under the redneck vote base which was always his intent. Do you think he knew the statistics?
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Elon's motives are irrelevant to the wider discussion, even though I agree he likely raised this topic to deflect from the H1B issue that his MAGA fans were unhappy about.
 
RexRex said:
Elon's motives are irrelevant to the discussion, even though I agree he likely raised this topic to deflect from the H1B issue that his MAGA fans were unhappy about.
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We wouldn't be having this discussion if he hadn't suddenly dropped those tweets so I disagree they are irrelevant.
 
RexRex said:
Elon's motives are irrelevant to the wider discussion, even though I agree he likely raised this topic to deflect from the H1B issue that his MAGA fans were unhappy about.
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That is just rubbish. He needed a distraction after the Maga guys after him for HB 1 Visas and he picked these horrible crimes to use for his distraction.
 
“Starmer was complicit in the RAPE OF BRITAIN,” Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, tweeted on 3 January this year. He was accusing the prime minister of failing, as director of public prosecutions, to tackle issues with grooming and child exploitation that go back several decades. A flurry of tweets reignited public interest in the case, something that has been covered for 30 years by the journalist and documentarian Anna Hall, who revisits her work this week for the Channel 4 documentary Groomed: A National Scandal.

The grooming scandal in Britain – which is often perceived as activities in Rotherham between the 1980s and 2013, but was, as this film shows, more widespread – is a complex issue. It crosses racial lines – the perpetrators were largely British-Pakistani, the victims often white – and involved myriad failures that allowed the abuse to go unchecked. Councils, social workers, the police, the entire criminal justice system, all have been scrutinised, and criticised, in the wake of events. It is, in short, a tragedy that is hard to do justice to in little over an hour. “This is the story of five women,” Hall announces at the outset, privileging, instead, the voices of victims like Chantelle and Jade, who appear on camera to deliver gruelling testimony about the rape and exploitation they suffered. This victim-centric account is clearly the way to go with a subject so frequently inflamed for political gain.

Yet as much as Hall wants to platform these women – who are startling, both in their frankness and their transparent vulnerability – the film cannot contextualise their stories without diving into the labyrinthine tale of evil being perpetrated and then (largely) gotten away with. “They’re not gonna stop,” one of the victims tells Hall. “It’s actually organised crime.” The tendrils of what happened have affected many of the interviewees – from Maggie Oliver, a police officer turned whistleblower, to Marlon West, whose daughter was groomed and abused in Manchester – who appear in the film. It necessarily dilutes the rawness of the five women who courageously take to the camera (some are portrayed, facially, by actors; others have waived their anonymity entirely), but provides a pathway through this tricky tale.

And it is tricky. “This is a film I hoped I’d never have to make,” Hall’s low-key narration informs us. It is a stark contrast to the gleeful, propagandising tone employed by Musk, and other far-right groups, as the story has resurfaced in recent months. This much has always been the case: the film shows the campaigns for justice being hijacked, in the 2010s, by groups like the BNP and EDL. “I wanted to make another film that tackles the issue of race head on,” Hall claims. And so even though the film disclaims that the majority of child abuse happens in the home and the majority of perpetrators are white, Groomed doesn’t shy away from the racial dynamic of this case. In fact, it could go further. It teases an understanding about cultural concerns within the British-Pakistani community (the film occasionally elides the British half of this, a possible misstep given how much of the abuse was perpetrated by second-generation immigrants), yet the foregrounding of victims means questions about the offenders get sidelined.

It is a delicacy that is, perhaps, born out of the incendiary nature of this issue. “Rotherham exploded,” a Yorkshire local confides, as the story becomes a global cause celebre. “My little town became world news.” Hall feels that the victims have become a “political football”, and yet the commissioning of this documentary also feels calculated. It is clear that grooming gangs are still in operation, but the salience of this issue has been raised by groups propagating aggressive nativism. Is this a chance for the women – the victims – to finally be heard with their own voices? Or is this a root-and-branch examination of political and judicial failings?

In the end, it’s a bit of both. The first-person testimony is harrowing but urgent. A broadcaster with more confidence in their audience being able to contextualise that information might’ve done something more radical, and allowed these women to hold the screen from start to finish. But as Groomed: A National Scandal suggests in its title, this issue has transcended the relative simplicity of that dynamic. Fraught with political complexity, this film cannot quite decide whether it wants to provoke or placate.
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Everyone was attacking the messenger Musk earlier for his tweets.now channel 4 management and owners will be attacked but no changes or repentance ever.
 
Devadwal said:
Expected answer from a British Pakistani because you don't have any words to defend this. Exposed . :kp
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There is already a multi page thread on this topic. You can see my views there :kp
 
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Its a menace in all society.

www.bbc.co.uk

Six men from 'depraved' Bolton grooming gang jailed - BBC News

A further six men from a ten-man Bolton gang that abused under-age girls for years are sentenced.
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Six men from 'depraved' grooming gang jailed

Six members of a "depraved" grooming gang that preyed on under-age girls have been jailed.

The men from Greater Manchester raped and abused their victims, who were aged between 13 and 15, at a property which became known as the "party house" in Blackrod, Bolton, between 2016 and 2018.

In a statement provided by police, one of the girls said the men, at whose hands she "suffered every form of abuse", continued to "haunt me every day".

Each was jailed after a trial at Liverpool Crown Court, with four other members of the gang, including its ringleader, sentenced on Monday.

The court heard the gang had met the girls by meeting them near to a community centre before messaging them online.

All were convicted of rape, sexual activity with a child or sexual assault.

One of their victims, who released a statement through Greater Manchester Police (GMP), said: "Because of these men, I will never be able to live a normal life again.

"I'd rather be dead most days than deal with all this mental torture and memories.

"No amount of prison time for them can make that go away. I live in my own prison now and that is what they have done to me."

Detective Constable Robert Booth of GMP said it was thanks to the victims' bravery that the men "now have to pay for their despicable crimes against young, vulnerable and impressionable girls".

He said: "I am glad these depraved individuals have been brought to justice, and I hope this sends a clear message that we will not tolerate sexual predators on our streets.

"If you are a victim of sexual abuse, please reach out to us. We are here to listen and work with you at your own pace, when you are ready."

The six members of the gang sentenced on Tuesday were:

  • Jack Poulson, 31, of Bolton, who was handed a 17-year sentence for offences including rape and sexual activity with a child under 16
  • Richard Haslam, 36, of Bolton, who was jailed for 16 years for rape and sexual activity with a child under 16
  • Daniel Flatters, 34, of Bolton, who was convicted of sexual activity with a child and given seven years in jail
  • James Fitzgerald, 36, of Bolton, who received a five-year and six-month sentence for sexual assault
  • Cory Barrett, 24, of Wigan, who was given 12 years in jail for rape and sexual assault
  • Elliot Turner, 36, of Bolton, who was found guilty of sexual activity with a child under 16 and handed two-year prison sentence.
All of the men were placed on the Sex Offenders Register.
 
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Pakistanis at home or evolve into a Britstanis mostly are a hopeless cause.

Oh well Britain can eat that dirty Karma now with the Britstanis for that 200 year brutal rule of the Sub continent...
 
Romali_rotti said:
Pakistanis at home or evolve into a Britstanis mostly are a hopeless cause.

Oh well Britain can eat that dirty Karma now with the Britstanis for that 200 year brutal rule of the Sub continent...
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250 year brutal rule, bro! Remember Jalianwala Bagh massacre? They deserve every bit of it.
 
Hitman said:
250 year brutal rule, bro! Remember Jalianwala Bagh massacre? They deserve every bit of it.
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This is why it is always so funny to see the Indians falling over themselves in threads like this to boot lick the British Raj.

Vun thousand apaalagies Sir! It iz de Pakistanis doing this dreadful things, ve are 1000% supporting you!" :apology
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
This is why it is always so funny to see the Indians falling over themselves in threads like this to boot lick the British Raj.

Vun thousand apaalagies Sir! It iz de Pakistanis doing this dreadful things, ve are 1000% supporting you!" :apology
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It's always the scums doing the scummy things. No surprises.
 
Title of this thread need to be changed. It is not Asian grooming gang but Pakistani grooming gangs. If we want to be more specific, we can call it UK Mirpuris grooming gang. Everyone in UK calls it as Pakistani grooming gangs and not Asian.

#OhTommyTommy
 
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