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Btw the most racist are Indian Punjabis but they're generally better educated.
They've made an art form out of it. See: Mist
They've made an art form out of it. See: Mist
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Asians make up 80% of child groomers – study
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The orignial tweet was response to why non-muslims were the victims and the reply was desis dont allow their women outside.
White people are statistically more likely to be victims becuase they go out at night according to you. This is victim blamming. There is no two ways about it. I mean do you even read what you are typing?
A simple google search revelas an example of victim blaming is the classic sentense
- "Why were you out at night?"
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It needs to be a collective one doesn't it?.
There are organisations but the best way is to acknowledge the issue. I say follow the York mosque and offer the other side tea and biscuits
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Or it gives context for the statistics.
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And the context is? Women who go out will be raped? Its the women (the victim) who has to take the blame of being outside for getting raped.
As I said similiar lines used by terrorists and Islamists in justifying burqa and women covering head to the toes.
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I think I found the article -
No, ‘Asian’ grooming gangs are not a myth
A recent Home Office report was deeply misleading.
www.spiked-online.com
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I think I found the article -
No, ‘Asian’ grooming gangs are not a myth
A recent Home Office report was deeply misleading.
That looks specifically at what they call "street grooming" or grooming gangs as the writer would have it. It would by definition exclude paedo rings which would probably be exclusively white, or for that matter the 3000 plus cases of sexual abuse in the last 30 years in UK churches.
I suppose you could research further into gang grooming and associate with Pakistani men, but that begs the question why just do it for that specific subsection of abuse?
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It needs to be a collective one doesn't it?.
There are organisations but the best way is to acknowledge the issue. I say follow the York mosque and offer the other side tea and biscuits
Pretty sure York is almost exclusively white. Not sure how offering tea and biscuits has acknowledged any issues either. Or why a mosque needs to offer any acknowledgment anyway, since there is no mosque which would condone plying young girls with alcohol and having sex with them out of wedlock.
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Three are paedophile rings ...?
I've seen these cases up close , been to court hearings and it's utterly disgusting and beyond comprehension.
Men of pension age sharing victims, underage at that, with others themselves teenagers.
Forget everything else, extramarital etc, it's simply beyond comprehension.
That these people are of the Pakistani community a shame that stigmatises all of it. They're not a small number
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Yes I can well believe it is disgusting and beyond comprehension. But why is it that there is a need to stigmatise Pakistanis on this when there is not the same call to racialise sexual abuse of minors in other cases? Also do you feel fresh shame since Elon Musk reignited the debate more than 10 years later?
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Fantastic insight of the chief Prosecutor at the time of these evil practices.
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Or how about Elon musk getting exposed for his Racist rhetoric.
Funny, you came to a conclusion after seeing Mehdi as the host, And Nazir his guest. Which sums up you personal agenda regarding this topic.
Remember, Nazir was the chief Prosecutor at the time.
Racists are better than Rapists, isnt it?
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Absolutely.
No way I'm defending the culprits. But atleast Chief Prosecutor Nazir has reassured me Musk is clueless.
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Shocking Family Secrets: Elon Musk's Dad Fathered Two Kids with His Stepdaughter!
Errol Musk, the father of tech billionaire Elon Musk, made headlines in 2022 when he confirmed having two children with his former stepdaughter Jana Bezuidenhout. Errol, then 76, fathered a daughter with Jana, who was 35 at the time and 41 years his junior.The unconventional family dynamic sparked widespread public interest and discussion. Jana Bezuidenhout was Errol's stepdaughter from his marriage to her mother, which lasted over a decade. After that marriage ended, Errol and Jana began a romantic relationship.
This revelation added another layer of complexity to the already controversial public image of the Musk family. Elon Musk reportedly learned of his father's second child with Jana on Father's Day in 2022, according to details from an upcoming biography by Walter Isaacson.
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@Rajdeep u remember after multiple bomb blasts in india after Mumbai attacks under upa, "saffron terrorism" was coined. Here f u go through this article "white xxx gangs" was the headlines of the woke left.same modus operandi in both cases.attach the stigma/issue to the majority and let the topic deviate .I think I found the article -
No, ‘Asian’ grooming gangs are not a myth
A recent Home Office report was deeply misleading.
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Don't be an ostrich
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The Musks are likely apartheid deniers too. South Africa is a cesspit
York Mosque praised for offering EDL protesters tea
A mosque is praised for serving tea and biscuits to English Defence League supporters after the far-right group arranged a demonstration there.
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Pakistanis are not emigrating to UK to join gangs that groom and rape children. The people involved are all British with Pakistani heritage. This problem is very localized and Pakistani Muslims around the world have nothing to do with it.
Indians see the word "Muslim" in the news headlines and lose their minds if they happened to be Pakistani. You have no moral authority to judge an entire religion or group of people based on a scandal that has political undertones. Get your own house in order first. This holier than thou attitude makes you look silly.
Now coming back to the issue at hand, can someone tell me why Mr. Musk has decided to resurface this issue after 10 years? I get that he doesn't like the liberal PM and trying to rile up media and get people emotionally charged up. Has he done anything to improve the lives of victims or offer any solutions or invested in initiatives to address systematic issues? Elon Musk seems to be discovering this horror for the first time and seems to be lost in the circus of internet anger.
Anyone with a working moral compass will be enraged but what is the end goal here? I ask my fellow British Pakistanis, is the British public dead or not concerned about an issue of this magnitude that someone with the stature elon Musk has to shake them up? Are the authorities dead and have they done nothing to bring the perpertrators to justice?
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He is also advocating for more cheap H1B slave labour from India to expand his business empire. You must also be loving that too
Do you honestly expect Indians to have a balanced stance on this issue? They will latch onto anything and anyone who attacks Muslims, often framing their arguments through a specific angle to justify their stance. Remember, enemy of an enemy is a friend.
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Bro. Truth with facts is kryptonite to these keyboard warriors.
Did you watch that video? What are the arguments presented in the video you disagree with?
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It seems UK has started taking stronger actions in recent years as opposed to officials hesitating due to very weird reasons to be honest. I am sure, British Pakistanis won't be opposed to catching culprits and giving them harsh punishment to stop this decades long saga. Everyone would want to stop this. I would want all rapist to be caught in US and the same goes for any sane people anywhere.
Not punishing organized child rapist gangs harshly simply gave them encouragement. It does not matter which community they belong to, catch them, give them harsh punishment. Anyone trying to help organized child rapist gangs should be also punished even if they are not doing the rape. That's how you stop this organized decade long child rape. This can't go on at this scale without tons of people knowing about it. Infact, many repoted cases of officials ignoring it itself exist. Have a national inquiry, punish all guilty parties and just root this out.
This shouldn't continue in future at this scale.
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In the last 12 months the crack team of expert investigators and analysts has helped police forces arrest over 550 suspects, identify and protect over 4,000 victims, and build up robust cases to get justice for these appalling crimes.
Established by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak in April 2023, the Grooming Gangs Taskforce of specialist officers has worked with all 43 police forces in England and Wales to support child sexual exploitation and grooming investigations.
Led by the National Police Chiefs’ Council and supported by the National Crime Agency, the taskforce is a full time, operational police unit funded by the Home Office to improve how the police investigate grooming gangs and identify and protect children from abuse. It is staffed by experienced and qualified officers and data analysts who have long-term, practical on-the-ground experience of undertaking investigations into grooming gangs.
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Yes, thousands of child life were saved with actions taken in 2023, but this is not a new issue. A large scale action should have been taken 10 years back. Shame on politicians.
Based on what I have read, immigrants from a small area in Pakistan are the ones who have friends, families and extended families participating in child rape together. It's not a British Pakistani issue and people should stop making it a British Pakistani issue. I have some friends in USA with Pakitani origin. They have families in UK. I also know some British Pakistani families via business. Everyone wants to stop this. No one wants this decade long issue to keep going.
Also, many members of these gangs are from another immigrants groups. Who cares about their backgorund. If it's very speficic area just stop taking immigrants from there till you solve this issue otherwise just go after all organized child rapist gang members harshly. Just root it out. It's disgusting and very sad to allow this to happen for so long with full knowledge of officials and social workers.
People laugh at US gun probelm, I can guarantee you that those child rapist gangs doing it so openly would have been shot logn time ago. I remember reading that police actually put a dad in jail instead of arresting rapists. If police and higher up politicians are also involved then all of them should be punished.
Till Musk brought it in limelight, I was under an impression that issue was solved. Initially, I told others that Musk is bringing an already solved issue for politics. But looking at arrest of 500-600 suspects in 2023 , it's a very large scale problem even now. Just go hard. Going easy encouraged those low lives to keep doing it for decades openly in day light with full knowledge of social workers and cops.
Grooming gangs task forces shouldn't have been arresting hudreds in 2023. They should have made hundreds of arrests decades back. Musk has his own interest here, but if this problem gets solved due to him having the largest magphone, then all power to him.
Not punishing organized child rapist gangs harshly simply gave them encouragement. It does not matter which community they belong to, catch them, give them harsh punishment. Anyone trying to help organized child rapist gangs should be also punished even if they are not doing the rape. That's how you stop this organized decade long child rape. This can't go on at this scale without tons of people knowing about it. Infact, many repoted cases of officials ignoring it itself exist. Have a national inquiry, punish all guilty parties and just root this out.
This shouldn't continue in future at this scale.
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Grooming Gangs Taskforce arrests hundreds in first year
In the last 12 months the crack team of expert investigators and analysts has helped police forces arrest over 550 suspects, identify and protect over 4,000 victims, and build up robust cases to get justice for these appalling crimes.
Established by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak in April 2023, the Grooming Gangs Taskforce of specialist officers has worked with all 43 police forces in England and Wales to support child sexual exploitation and grooming investigations.
Led by the National Police Chiefs’ Council and supported by the National Crime Agency, the taskforce is a full time, operational police unit funded by the Home Office to improve how the police investigate grooming gangs and identify and protect children from abuse. It is staffed by experienced and qualified officers and data analysts who have long-term, practical on-the-ground experience of undertaking investigations into grooming gangs.
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Grooming Gangs Taskforce arrests hundreds in first year
A dedicated police taskforce set up to bring down grooming gangs has supported police forces in England and Wales to make hundreds of arrests in its first year.
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Yes, thousands of child life were saved with actions taken in 2023, but this is not a new issue. A large scale action should have been taken 10 years back. Shame on politicians.
Based on what I have read, immigrants from a small area in Pakistan are the ones who have friends, families and extended families participating in child rape together. It's not a British Pakistani issue and people should stop making it a British Pakistani issue. I have some friends in USA with Pakitani origin. They have families in UK. I also know some British Pakistani families via business. Everyone wants to stop this. No one wants this decade long issue to keep going.
Also, many members of these gangs are from another immigrants groups. Who cares about their backgorund. If it's very speficic area just stop taking immigrants from there till you solve this issue otherwise just go after all organized child rapist gang members harshly. Just root it out. It's disgusting and very sad to allow this to happen for so long with full knowledge of officials and social workers.
People laugh at US gun probelm, I can guarantee you that those child rapist gangs doing it so openly would have been shot logn time ago. I remember reading that police actually put a dad in jail instead of arresting rapists. If police and higher up politicians are also involved then all of them should be punished.
Till Musk brought it in limelight, I was under an impression that issue was solved. Initially, I told others that Musk is bringing an already solved issue for politics. But looking at arrest of 500-600 suspects in 2023 , it's a very large scale problem even now. Just go hard. Going easy encouraged those low lives to keep doing it for decades openly in day light with full knowledge of social workers and cops.
Grooming gangs task forces shouldn't have been arresting hudreds in 2023. They should have made hundreds of arrests decades back. Musk has his own interest here, but if this problem gets solved due to him having the largest magphone, then all power to him.
I disagree with everything that Islamist Mehedy Hasan says. No sane people around the world takes him seriously...lol.
Stop doing whataboutery, will you? He and his govt is free to take any action in their country, just like Modi is free to implement anything in India like removing article 370 etc.
Lets not distract from Pakistani grooming gangs in UK. You defending the rapists is amusing but not surprising.
Rajdeep.
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I hope some of our constantly shamed posters watch this, would be interesting to get their feedback.
Alright rajdeep. You are not very deep so don't act like you have discovered the fountain of truth. Lemme ask this again, who is defending the grooming gang and rape? Please don't quote me with another Zakir Naik video like your other bright indian friend did.
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My bro, if you are going to come on here and give an opinion, at least have the decency to answer perfectly reasonable queries instead of resorting to name calling.
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The resident indian here who's so passionate about this topic having so much sympathy for the victims and acting all tough hasn't even seen the video. Apparantly he doesn't agree with anything that Mehdi Hassan says. The only issue is, Mehdi hassan is just an interviewer and not the one persenting arguements.
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Good Lord.
bury your head in the sand
Definition of bury your head in the sand in the Idioms Dictionary by The Free Dictionary
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I can understand you don't like Mehdi Hasan - although I am surprised you know who he is - but you do realise that the person he is interviewing is the chief prosecutor of the Rochdale gang groomers, someone who went after them publicly and very effectively?
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If there was just one resident Indian would not be so bad. But that he knows who Mehdi Hasan is and refers to him as an Islamist tells you all you need to know about his ideology. You won't get any meaningful debate from an avowed Modite.
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Jackpot. These are the same points I have raised. None of them can answer. It's somewhat alarming that such bigotry can be stirred by a siren call from a man like Musk. I guess it was hiding under the rock all along, just needed a smart operator like him to lift the rock.
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I have a feeling posters are desperate here to shift the topic somehow towards Indians and Hindus but I would urge them to address the issue in hand. We need answers on the following:
1. Why the grooming gang culprits in UK are only from Pakistan?
2. What can Pakistanis in Britain do to remove the stain associated with them?
3. What can Pakistani community in Britain do to give these underage white girls justice and raise awareness?
4. What can Pakistani community do to change the perception of people about them?
Think we need answer to these questions.
Saying Indians and Hindus are bad multiple times will not change the fact. There are multiple threads to discuss these anyway.
This thread is only to discuss Pakistani grooming gangs in UK and we must stick to this topic.
Rajdeep.
1. Why the grooming gang culprits in UK are only from Pakistan?
2. What can Pakistanis in Britain do to remove the stain associated with them?
3. What can Pakistani community in Britain do to give these underage white girls justice and raise awareness?
4. What can Pakistani community do to change the perception of people about them?
Think we need answer to these questions.
Saying Indians and Hindus are bad multiple times will not change the fact. There are multiple threads to discuss these anyway.
This thread is only to discuss Pakistani grooming gangs in UK and we must stick to this topic.
Rajdeep.
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I think those arrests are relating to historical offences mostly. Glad they’re finally being locked away.
You show them ragdeep. Those are some really tough questions. I hope someone can see them and answer them. British Pakistanis need to step up their game and get rid of the stigma of being associated with pedophiles. Afterall if Indians say Brit Pakistanis are rapists, it must be true. Come and prove yourselves to ragdeep you are not rapists.
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I don't know too much details. I read it twitter first and then news headlines NYT. I have some friends who have famiies in UK. They are all talking about it. Coverage in media has been widespread due to Musk having the largest magaphone. I then read a bit in UK official sites. Musk is doing for a different reason but if it helps to get rid of this decade long problem then more power to him.
One way or another, hundreds of suspects should have been arrested a long time back. Ignoring it was a mistake by officials and politicians. Going hard after these low lives is the only way to discourage them.
British Pakistani population is in millions. Associating these lowest of low lives to entire British Pakistani community is simply wrong. Catch all involved in this and punish them harshly. I am 100% sure that British Pakistani themselves will be the most glad to get rid of these low lives. Families and friends together participating in organized rape of kids will be really tiny number compared to total population. There are some others involved as well. Just catch all and punish them harshly.
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Frankly, going by the empirical, a line up of pakistani men with british passports in any situation is to lack scientists.
Unless you are one, or aware of any. Floor is yours.
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You are right, this topic has nothing to do with Indians or Hindus other than people like yourselves asking these questions are Indians and Hindus.
Let me ask you a question. Why have Elon Musk's tweets triggered you? Do you feel suddenly more at risk from Pakistani grooming gangs than you did before he spoke up?
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Correct. We are rid of them, they were convicted and jailed a long time ago. I can understand Musk's reasons for going down this road, but that it has unleashed a wave of pent up racism is of more note.
We all knew about Pakistani grooming gangs from a long time. I have seen the documentaries about it in BBC and the horrific ordeal of those young girls. However, the govt and establishment tried to silence this issue as they were afraid of being called as racists and losing votes from certain section of the society. Now that Elon Musk has reignited this issue, people are rallying behind him in support and demanding action and state investivation against the grooming gangs which aparently still ongoing. Hope I am clear?
Now let me ask you few questions.
1. Why are you so desperate criticizing Elon Musk for being the messanger but never ask for a fair investigation in this case?
2. Elon Musk's purpose may be political but whatever his purpose is, if it is reigniting the investigation of Grooming gang scandal and giving justice to the victims, why are you not happy?
3. Why is it that you shutting down everyone in this thread as Hindu, Indian, white supremacists, racists etc but not a word on the rapists themselves?
4. Why are you so triggered that this case has resurfaced again and trying to convince everyone that is a 10 year old story as if you have proof of this is not happening in 2025?
I mean, I know the answers of all the above...but still asking.
Kaptaan Sahab
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We all knew about Pakistani grooming gangs from a long time. I have seen the documentaries about it in BBC and the horrific ordeal of those young girls. However, the govt and establishment tried to silence this issue as they were afraid of being called as racists and losing votes from certain section of the society. Now that Elon Musk has reignited this issue, people are rallying behind him in support and demanding action and state investivation against the grooming gangs which aparently still ongoing. Hope I am clear?
Now let me ask you few questions.
1. Why are you so desperate criticizing Elon Musk for being the messanger but never ask for a fair investigation in this case?
2. Elon Musk's purpose may be political but whatever his purpose is, if it is reigniting the investigation of Grooming gang scandal and giving justice to the victims, why are you not happy?
3. Why is it that you shutting down everyone in this thread as Hindu, Indian, white supremacists, racists etc but not a word on the rapists themselves?
4. Why are you so triggered that this case has resurfaced again and trying to convince everyone that is a 10 year old story as if you have proof of this is not happening in 2025?
I mean, I know the answers of all the above...but still asking.
Kaptaan Sahab
There was a fair investigation into the case, there was at least one equiry which cost over £200 million. There was another separate inquiry into the Rotheram case and many measures were implemented and culprits were put away for a long time.
So is your issue with the justice system or something else? I am just trying to get at what you think the problem is here.
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The investigation was done and 22 recommendations were made and out of them the Tory govt only implemented 5. One of the major recommendations has been implemented and schools and teachers have to report and communicate any suspicions to the Police and other agencies. We have annual training and its a legal obligation to report any suspicions.We all knew about Pakistani grooming gangs from a long time. I have seen the documentaries about it in BBC and the horrific ordeal of those young girls. However, the govt and establishment tried to silence this issue as they were afraid of being called as racists and losing votes from certain section of the society. Now that Elon Musk has reignited this issue, people are rallying behind him in support and demanding action and state investivation against the grooming gangs which aparently still ongoing. Hope I am clear?
Now let me ask you few questions.
1. Why are you so desperate criticizing Elon Musk for being the messanger but never ask for a fair investigation in this case?
2. Elon Musk's purpose may be political but whatever his purpose is, if it is reigniting the investigation of Grooming gang scandal and giving justice to the victims, why are you not happy?
3. Why is it that you shutting down everyone in this thread as Hindu, Indian, white supremacists, racists etc but not a word on the rapists themselves?
4. Why are you so triggered that this case has resurfaced again and trying to convince everyone that is a 10 year old story as if you have proof of this is not happening in 2025?
I mean, I know the answers of all the above...but still asking.
Kaptaan Sahab
Have you thought about why Musk suddenly found an interest in this? He works for a rapist, who wanted to appoint Matt Gaetz and who himself has been accused of lewd behaviour. So it's not to protect any children or nail sexual offenders
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He is desperate to find something that allows him to claim all PKs and Muslims are somehow rapists. He claimed yesterday that these criminal losers were driven by religious ideology.
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We all knew about Pakistani grooming gangs from a long time. I have seen the documentaries about it in BBC and the horrific ordeal of those young girls. However, the govt and establishment tried to silence this issue as they were afraid of being called as racists and losing votes from certain section of the society. Now that Elon Musk has reignited this issue, people are rallying behind him in support and demanding action and state investivation against the grooming gangs which aparently still ongoing. Hope I am clear?
Now let me ask you few questions.
1. Why are you so desperate criticizing Elon Musk for being the messanger but never ask for a fair investigation in this case?
2. Elon Musk's purpose may be political but whatever his purpose is, if it is reigniting the investigation of Grooming gang scandal and giving justice to the victims, why are you not happy?
3. Why is it that you shutting down everyone in this thread as Hindu, Indian, white supremacists, racists etc but not a word on the rapists themselves?
4. Why are you so triggered that this case has resurfaced again and trying to convince everyone that is a 10 year old story as if you have proof of this is not happening in 2025?
I mean, I know the answers of all the above...but still asking.
Kaptaan Sahab
I urge you to watch what Chief Prosecutor Nazir and the enquiry put in place at the time, and the wide range of gangs he prosecuted relating to all this and more.
Post 731 you tube clip is there to be seen . Enjoy getting educated on facts.
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He is desperate to find something that allows him to claim all PKs and Muslims are somehow rapists. He claimed yesterday that these criminal losers were driven by religious ideology.
Yes. They always look to find ways to paint all Muslims as bad. Big losers.
They never condemn when women get raped in India or minorities are attacked. They generally do whataboutism and derail the thread with nonsense.
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British Pakistani Grooming Gangs: Myths and Facts
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Great article on the subject
He is desperate to find something that allows him to claim all PKs and Muslims are somehow rapists. He claimed yesterday that these criminal losers were driven by religious ideology.
It is a fact that these were not just rapes but racist and religious punishments laid on victims. I know you wouldnt like to hear it and even govt tried to bury it but it is the truth. Check the video I posted earlier in this thread where the victim is saying she was constantly been beaten up. Then she was raped and beaten up for not covering her body till ankle, for eating food with spoon and fork and not using hands, beaten up for eating pork etc etc. I have never said all Pks and muslims rapists...pls tell me where have I said that. I am only commenting on this topic and as usual I am speaking the truth. However, it looks like usual suspects trying hard to defend these rapists which is sad to read.
Rajdeep.
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Yes bringing rapes happening in India to a thread dedicated to Pakistani grooming gangs in UK and it is we who are doing whataboutery.
Sweep shot bhai
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Great article on the subject
Fantastic Article.
Yet we have hindutwa Posters with agendas and a BS narrative.
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He is desperate to find something that allows him to claim all PKs and Muslims are somehow rapists. He claimed yesterday that these criminal losers were driven by religious ideology.
Well I gave him the opportunity to tell us what his issue was since it's been pointed out that there was at least one enquiry which cost £200 million of the tax payers money, and many recommendations have been implemented since.
I also asked him if he has an issue with the justice system if he is still unhappy, and also why after 10 years he has suddenly become unhappy again following Musk's tweets. What is the outcome he is looking for?
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So once again how would guys that drink, take drugs and fornicate be giving out religious punishments when they themselves were commiting the cardinal sin. Its a bit like me saying all these Christian white guys that have raped their way through SE asia were using it to punish pagons etc.That is beyond a stupid statement and you picked this up directly from Yaxley and Co. Who by the way is funded by Israel. Not a conspiracy theory, just a Plain fact. Look at the EDLs original name.
why don't you explain why Musk has raised this topic now.
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It has been pointed to you many times that criminals were prosecuted and put behind bars and measures were taken to prevent such cases from happening. You almost sound like you are not satisfied and you want Muslims to admit they rape children for religious reasons and you want them to feel ashamed for being muslims. I know how your little indian mind works so don’t try to pretend you doing it for the right reasons. You have zero concerns about the actual victims. Because if you were sincere, you would actually debate the weak points in the prosecution and provide recommendations as to what can be done to prevent any future victims.
People have provided you references to articles and videos that counter the hindutva narrative but you adamant on labelling muslims as rapists and falsely accusing them of defending the grooming gang.
The bottom line is, there’s nothing people can tell you here that will change your mind against pakistani muslims and you and your little friends will continue to exploit the benevolence of Pakistanis allowing you to come here and share you thoughts. But enough is enough. I urge the mods to take note of this user who has an agenda against Pakistanis and is continuously posting trash about them. He’s not here to educate himself but to argue and promote his hindutva narrative.
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It does not look like the case. This issue seems like an ongoing issue.
In 2023-2024 - Hundreds of suspects were arrested after a task force was formed by UK government to tackle this issue in first year. That's not a long time ago.
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Grooming Gangs Taskforce arrests hundreds in first year
In the last 12 months the crack team of expert investigators and analysts has helped police forces arrest over 550 suspects, identify and protect over 4,000 victims, and build up robust cases to get justice for these appalling crimes.
Established by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak in April 2023, the Grooming Gangs Taskforce of specialist officers has worked with all 43 police forces in England and Wales to support child sexual exploitation and grooming investigations.
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Grooming Gangs Taskforce arrests hundreds in first year
A dedicated police taskforce set up to bring down grooming gangs has supported police forces in England and Wales to make hundreds of arrests in its first year.
Long time ago would have been a decade back.
This needs to be tackled forcefully to end this decade long issue happeing openly in front of cops and social workers. Everyone involved should be punished harshly.
Is there a relation between criminals who were arrested last year and the Pakistani grooming gang?It does not look like the case. This issue seems like an ongoing issue.
In 2023-2024 - Hundreds of suspects were arrested after a task force was formed by UK government to tackle this issue in first year. That's not a long time ago.
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Grooming Gangs Taskforce arrests hundreds in first year
In the last 12 months the crack team of expert investigators and analysts has helped police forces arrest over 550 suspects, identify and protect over 4,000 victims, and build up robust cases to get justice for these appalling crimes.
Established by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak in April 2023, the Grooming Gangs Taskforce of specialist officers has worked with all 43 police forces in England and Wales to support child sexual exploitation and grooming investigations.
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-------------------------Grooming Gangs Taskforce arrests hundreds in first year
A dedicated police taskforce set up to bring down grooming gangs has supported police forces in England and Wales to make hundreds of arrests in its first year.
Long time ago would have been a decade back.
This needs to be tackled forcefully to end this decade long issue happeing openly in front of cops and social workers. Everyone involved should be punished harshly.
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Whether the offenders are white, black or brown of PK origin, they are immoral pieces of ****. Countries are built on shared values and these horrific crimes should horrify all of us, not just the white communities to whom the young girls belong. They should have been given long sentences and exiled from the towns they are from, they should be deported if it's possible and if not, forced to sign the sex offenders register for life.
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Worth bearing in mind these lowlives would have been executed in most Muslim countries. Although what would happen to them in Pakistan I'm not sure since they seem to make the rules up as they go along in that country.
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It does not look like the case. This issue seems like an ongoing issue.
In 2023-2024 - Hundreds of suspects were arrested after a task force was formed by UK government to tackle this issue in first year. That's not a long time ago.
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Grooming Gangs Taskforce arrests hundreds in first year
In the last 12 months the crack team of expert investigators and analysts has helped police forces arrest over 550 suspects, identify and protect over 4,000 victims, and build up robust cases to get justice for these appalling crimes.
Established by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak in April 2023, the Grooming Gangs Taskforce of specialist officers has worked with all 43 police forces in England and Wales to support child sexual exploitation and grooming investigations.
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-------------------------Grooming Gangs Taskforce arrests hundreds in first year
A dedicated police taskforce set up to bring down grooming gangs has supported police forces in England and Wales to make hundreds of arrests in its first year.
Long time ago would have been a decade back.
This needs to be tackled forcefully to end this decade long issue happeing openly in front of cops and social workers. Everyone involved should be punished harshly.
I think you need to watch this you tube clip . Mehde Hasan hosts the Chief Prosecutor for these Grooming gang cases, and what was put in place.
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Yes there is. My point is why care about it? Organized gangs are still raping kids openly and it needs to stop. Who cares if they are from one ethnic group or another or white or whoever. These low lives don't represent millions of British Pakistanis or anyone. Based on my conversation with friends in US and readings, concentration is high due to immigrants from a very small area in Paksitan.
This was published a few days ago and data is for the first 9 months of 2024.
Data is shared by National police scheme.
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Figures from all 43 forces in England and Wales show 13.7 per cent of child sexual exploitation “grooming” offences in the first nine months of last year involved Pakistanis.
Pakistanis up to four times more likely to be behind grooming
National police scheme shares data on ‘group-based’ child sexual abuse that includes ethnic background of perpetrators
www.telegraph.co.uk
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Ethnicity is not relevant in catching and punishing them. Catch all of them and give them the harshest punishment. Anyone hiding them should face the harshest punishment because these kind of activities done opnely means lots of people are turning a blind eye to it. We have documented cases of all kinds of parties including families, cops, social workers etc ignoring it.
As sociaty, it's sick to ignore it despite coming in highlights for decades. No need to get angry at Musk, or think that this issue is an old issue. This is an ongoing issue and we all should be thankful to Musk, despite his different agenda, if spotlight forces politicians to finally get rid of this decade long horrible issue. You can't bring any crime to zero, but this one is onging decade long problem and still a very large one as evident by hundreds of arrests last year.
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To be honest, I have very little trust in British authorities defending themselves for this issue. I will stil watch it later.
How come dedicated task force was only put in place in 2023 which resulted in arrests of hundred of suspects in 2024? This should have been done a long time back and rooted out. Authorities are fully to blame for not taking all posisble actions decades back.
Honestly speaking, this seems like a repeat of what democrats were doing in US. Ignoring very visible issues and officials were saying they are doing all they can to solve the issue. Result trump won. Not because he was a strong candidate, but folks got fed up with non-sense coming from officials one after another.
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It's horrific crime and focus should be to stop it.
For the bold part, I thought it's a standard process anyway.
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The Tories, who are suddenly taking in everything Musk spouts as Gospel Truth, should be brought to task on this.
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If we can save our kids even due to our enemy, we should be thankful for that guy it will save our precious kids and young generations from trauma for decades .
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I maybe wrong but Not always life. Sometimes for 10 years etc
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He is not doing any such thing. This was a diversion tactic to take the heat off, after the MAGA crowd didn't take too kindly to the HB1 visa support. Look at the Guardian now and look at Bannons reaction to Musk.
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Would have been vs What would happen.
Two contradictions in one go.
What's the point again?
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Whether it's a deviation or not, 2023 stats shows still grooming is going on with 550 plus suspects getting caught and 4000 victim's identified.why should any parent should not request justice for their kid even if its decade old case.unless it's zero cases in 2024, deep rooted paedophiles are still roaming free.
There is no contadiction but perhaps a comprehension issue. He believes the criminals would get excuted in most Muslim countries except for maybe Pakistan where the rule of law doesn't always prevail. What's so hard to understand superman?
Can you please provide a source for this? I'm really interested in learning more about it. It's hard to believe a first world country like UK can't put a lid on a Pakistani grooming gang and allowed them to continue grooming more kids. This is not the 1970s America where the Italian Mafia is more powerful than the US governmentYes there is. My point is why care about it? Organized gangs are still raping kids openly and it needs to stop. Who cares if they are from one ethnic group or another or white or whoever. These low lives don't represent millions of British Pakistanis or anyone. Based on my conversation with friends in US and readings, concentration is high due to immigrants from a very small area in Paksitan.
This was published a few days ago and data is for the first 9 months of 2024.
Data is shared by National police scheme.
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Figures from all 43 forces in England and Wales show 13.7 per cent of child sexual exploitation “grooming” offences in the first nine months of last year involved Pakistanis.
Pakistanis up to four times more likely to be behind grooming
National police scheme shares data on ‘group-based’ child sexual abuse that includes ethnic background of perpetrators
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Ethnicity is not relevant in catching and punishing them. Catch all of them and give them the harshest punishment. Anyone hiding them should face the harshest punishment because these kind of activities done opnely means lots of people are turning a blind eye to it. We have documented cases of all kinds of parties including families, cops, social workers etc ignoring it.
As sociaty, it's sick to ignore it despite coming in highlights for decades. No need to get angry at Musk, or think that this issue is an old issue. This is an ongoing issue and we all should be thankful to Musk, despite his different agenda, if spotlight forces politicians to finally get rid of this decade long horrible issue. You can't bring any crime to zero, but this one is onging decade long problem and still a very large one as evident by hundreds of arrests last year.
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Is this really true ? That is shocking.
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What's in it for Musk? Is he trying to overthrow the UK government?
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Elon knows about grooing- father married his adopted daughter, someone he has looked after since the age of 4.
You do know that their has been enquiries and people have gone down. So why has Elon piped up now? Well look no further than The HB 1 visas and the anger of MAGA. Elon wants cheap, skilled foreign Labour but the MAGA guys don't want it. It kicked off anger against him and he needed distraction. See Bannons comments yesterday
Elon is a man child. His ego is too big and he's making it personal about anyone who dare criticizes him or gets in his way. He no longer has anyone telling him "no" and has unchecked resources and power. When he made a massive mistake and released the garbage Cybertruck that has a myriad of issues and cost Tesla lots of money, he still got a $50 billion+ pay package from them. Even when he blew a ton of money on Twitter and sank its value and continues to hemorrhage money, he still got what he wanted out of it (the role of President, basically), and ultimately he never, ever suffers comeuppance
This leads to someone who believes they are untouchable, because he basically is, and thus his actions are more erratic and extreme. Why not? Nothing bad will come of it ever anyway
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More whataboutery lol.
Elon doesn't speak to his father but for some reason People keeps mentioning his grooming dad as if it's Musk's fault.
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That actuslly gives him some credibility when he speaks out against it, don't you think?
Don't let the whataboutism backfire on you.
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