Asians make up 80% of child groomers – study

What's in it for Musk? Is he trying to overthrow the UK government?

Yes basically. He's even urged the monarch of Great Britain to overthrow the govt. He's agitating against the govt in Germany as well. I don't follow this so closely but the opinion on reddit seems to be he wants to break the unions, maybe to bring costs down for his own manufacturing designs.
 

Labour MP breaks ranks and demands Starmer launches grooming gang inquiry​


A Labour MP has broken ranks and demanded that Sir Keir Starmer launches a national inquiry into the Asian grooming gangs that targeted hundreds of white working-class underage girls in towns around the country.

Liverpool Walton MP Dan Carden has become the first Labour MP to back an inquiry after a tumultuous week where Sir Keir and his safeguarding minister Jess Phillips were subject to attacks led by X (Twitter) boss Elon Musk over the decision not to have one.


Mr Carden told the Liverpool Echo: “The public compassion for the victims, thousands of young British working-class girls and children is real. The public call for justice must be heeded.

 
Thank you biff. You walked right in it.

Depends on where in the world you are . You must be either in Tel Aviv, Bombay or some village in the everglades.

If you travel to South Asia, Middle East or Africa, the people are very scared of middle aged white men when it comes to their children.

Have you been locked away in the last decade?

Its now known through Epstein , Presidents, famous actors, famous singers, high profile businessmen. Then you have the UK , Saville, Prince Andrew, Garry Glitter etc. Then you have India, the sexual abuse epicentre of the planet.

To say the world is worried about Pakistani men is ignorant and foolish. 90% of these sick groomers have been born and bred in UK, their culture is British, they drink booze, take cocaine, have parties etc. This is not Pakistani culture, unless you can prove this happens in Pakistan.

Btw where are you from?
 
To say the world is worried about Pakistani men is ignorant and foolish. 90% of these sick groomers have been born and bred in UK, their culture is British, they drink booze, take cocaine, have parties etc. This is not Pakistani culture, unless you can prove this happens in Pakistan.

You can't help yourself can you? First music is haram, now having parties is too.

Forget me, let's have some real Pakistanis laugh at you.

Up next, please also include that these groomers breath oxygen as part of British culture.
 
You can't help yourself can you? First music is haram, now having parties is too.

Forget me, let's have some real Pakistanis laugh at you.

Up next, please also include that these groomers breath oxygen as part of British culture.

Again, I have never said music is haram lol. I challenge you to find a single post on here from me suggesting this. Same goes for parties.

You live in Bihar in India, you have no idea of British culture. Every weekend teenagers get drunk and do drugs, inc cocaine to ecstasy, this is normal culture. Of course these nonces who are mostly born in Britain also indulge in this and take advantage of girls. Its not like India where a woman can get gangraped on a bus. Different places have different cultures and ways of lives. A woman is still far far safer in UK than in India, this will never change.
 
Im not here to discuss my life and make friends with kids from Bihar. My lifestyle is something you cannot imagine living in Bihar, I have no need to watch Bollwyood women dance or attack women, Ive lived all my life here with no such evil desires. Most men dont need to be nonces like most Indian men or these sick groomers, finding someone to be intimate isnt hard.

You seem very frustrated , as if you're missing out. I would suggest marriage and quickly in your case.
 
Its now known through Epstein , Presidents, famous actors, famous singers, high profile businessmen. Then you have the UK , Saville, Prince Andrew, Garry Glitter etc. Then you have India, the sexual abuse epicentre of the planet.

To say the world is worried about Pakistani men is ignorant and foolish. 90% of these sick groomers have been born and bred in UK, their culture is British, they drink booze, take cocaine, have parties etc. This is not Pakistani culture, unless you can prove this happens in Pakistan.

Btw where are you from?

Farhan seems to be disputing that these Pakistanis are complying with Islamic standards and perhaps it is linked to their homeland culture. I suppose he may have a point, as we all accept it is not Islamic behaviour to drink and indulge in sex out of wedlock, so in that case they must be reverting to the culture of the subcontinent and as we all know, India is getting a bad reputation for rape. There is also a culture of child prostitution which is addressed in this serious journal about the phenomenon in India.

 
Farhan seems to be disputing that these Pakistanis are complying with Islamic standards and perhaps it is linked to their homeland culture. I suppose he may have a point, as we all accept it is not Islamic behaviour to drink and indulge in sex out of wedlock, so in that case they must be reverting to the culture of the subcontinent and as we all know, India is getting a bad reputation for rape. There is also a culture of child prostitution which is addressed in this serious journal about the phenomenon in India.


There is an estimated over 10 million children groomed and forced into prostitution in India.

This is a recent story from last year.

Abuse of children is the worst crime imo, everyone who has raped or paid to rape a child should be given the death penalty.

 
Can you please provide a source for this?
Did you miss the link cited on both posts? One is from UK government site and one is from Guardian. Guardian is citing data shared by National police scheme. I don't know where to look for it.

I'm really interested in learning more about it. It's hard to believe a first world country like UK can't put a lid on a Pakistani grooming gang and allowed them to continue grooming more kids. This is not the 1970s America where the Italian Mafia is more powerful than the US government

I don't think it has much to do with Pakistani grooming gang being powerful. Even though Pakistani grooming gangs are disproportionately represented, it hardly matters that they are from Pakistan. There is plenty of this happening with other groups as well otherwise we won't be seeing hundreds of arrests happening in 2024. Some other crime may have some other ethnic group being disproportionately represented. Goal should be to stop them.

It just sick to allow it to happen for decades despite being in the lime light. Politicians, cops, social works - all allowed it to happen openly while it has been in a limelight. It's just sick. Pakistani gangs or any other gang is not relavant. It's a collective failure as a society.

Just catch all and punish harshly. Not taking all possible actions decades back has allowed it to continue till this day. Officals simply did not take all actions they could have taken. Pakistani grooming gangs being disporportionately represented even now is not an indication of government being scared fo them. They were disproportionately represented earlier as well. It's the case of morally bankrumpt government refusing to pretect kids from organized gangs in broad day light.

That's why if Musk actions get rid of this issue, all power to Musk.
 

I don't see any mention there about vodka, and that is specifically talking about wives. I don't think the groomers married the wives. Maybe we need to check some Hindu scriptures now to see if there is a more authentic source for the grooming culture.

My my, what a contributor you are, and what a direction you are taking this discussion!
 
That actuslly gives him some credibility when he speaks out against it, don't you think?

Don't let the whataboutism backfire on you.
Anyone doing it to for the right reason will help to shine a light on the horror of the abuse but Elon has been rumbled because he has used to divert. Bannon destroyed him yesterday and saw through his diversion.
 
More whataboutery lol.

Elon doesn't speak to his father but for some reason People keeps mentioning his grooming dad as if it's Musk's fault.
No. Just basic facts which obviously don't sit well with you. His dad abused his daughter and Elon himself works for a guy that is convicted of rape and appointed a guy as Attorney General that was accused of exactly of what Elon is supposedly so against. Matt Gaetz did exactly what Elon is apparently so horrified by- grooimg and paying for sex. Would he have kicked off if Gaetz was appointed🤣🤣
 
@Cpt. Rishwat - what exactly you want from this thread? You are debating and defending and blaming everyone else as if your life depends on it. Your defense may put the lawyers of these Pakistani groomers in shame. So just wanted to check, what exactly you want and how can we help you here?

Rajdeep.
 
Did you miss the link cited on both posts? One is from UK government site and one is from Guardian. Guardian is citing data shared by National police scheme. I don't know where to look for it.



I don't think it has much to do with Pakistani grooming gang being powerful. Even though Pakistani grooming gangs are disproportionately represented, it hardly matters that they are from Pakistan. There is plenty of this happening with other groups as well otherwise we won't be seeing hundreds of arrests happening in 2024. Some other crime may have some other ethnic group being disproportionately represented. Goal should be to stop them.

It just sick to allow it to happen for decades despite being in the lime light. Politicians, cops, social works - all allowed it to happen openly while it has been in a limelight. It's just sick. Pakistani gangs or any other gang is not relavant. It's a collective failure as a society.

Just catch all and punish harshly. Not taking all possible actions decades back has allowed it to continue till this day. Officals simply did not take all actions they could have taken. Pakistani grooming gangs being disporportionately represented even now is not an indication of government being scared fo them. They were disproportionately represented earlier as well. It's the case of morally bankrumpt government refusing to pretect kids from organized gangs in broad day light.

That's why if Musk actions get rid of this issue, all power to Musk.

Musk is pushing far right Zionist narrative, he is compromised himself so has no choice to bow down. He has denied it but had ties to Epstein.

Now Musk is trying to get a far right government into power in the UK, esp an anti Muslim government.

Western society from top to bottom is full of rape gangs, inc many famous people, politicians to actors to businessmen, heck dozens of islands and private flights to a temple of peadophilia but it doesnt seem to make the news.

Espteins client list still hasnt been revealed, I doubt it has any British Pakistani groomers on it.
 
@Cpt. Rishwat - what exactly you want from this thread? You are debating and defending and blaming everyone else as if your life depends on it. Your defense may put the lawyers of these Pakistani groomers in shame. So just wanted to check, what exactly you want and how can we help you here?

Rajdeep.

Firstly, I have never defended any grooming, if I have you are free to quote the post. Now that misconception is out of the way, first let me explain that this thread is from a few years ago, it was bumped recently by someone else, probably due to Elon Musk reigniting the debate.

I don't need anything from anyone, as far as I am concerned this was dealt with a long time ago. It is you who is on here arguing that there was not a satisfactory resolution, so let me ask you. What outcome would make you happy?
 
Firstly, I have never defended any grooming, if I have you are free to quote the post. Now that misconception is out of the way, first let me explain that this thread is from a few years ago, it was bumped recently by someone else, probably due to Elon Musk reigniting the debate.

I don't need anything from anyone, as far as I am concerned this was dealt with a long time ago. It is you who is on here arguing that there was not a satisfactory resolution, so let me ask you. What outcome would make you happy?

It was not dealt with long time ago. As many posters, including moderators have posted that grooming gang is still happening as of today as per news. It is not close and shut case by any means.
 
It was not dealt with long time ago. As many posters, including moderators have posted that grooming gang is still happening as of today as per news. It is not close and shut case by any means.

In that case it is you who needs to tell us what outcome you think will resolve this. What is the resolution you are looking for?
 
Captain regrets opening this thread, he didn't expect Indians to chime in with their blunt opinions .. he wanted it to be an internal discussion among britpaks.

If that was the case I would never have opened the thread in the first place since I know Indians are going to be chiming in as they are very vocal on TP when there is something to criticise Pakistanis or Muslims about. Not a problem, an internal discussion between BritPaks would be probably more fruitful, but it's not going to happen so we work with what we've got.
 
In that case it is you who needs to tell us what outcome you think will resolve this. What is the resolution you are looking for?

Excellent post. Look now we are talking without old blame game on Hindus, Indians etc.

1. I would like to know the root cause why this animalistic behaviour only coming from Pakistani population of South East asia and not other regions? Is there some intrinsic reason we are missing? If yes, maybe schools in Britain need to have a chapter on this in moral science sylabus.

2. We need to find the root cause why the victims were only white girls? Is there some sort of racism involved?

3 How are they gaining access to vulnerable girls? Are they using drugs or any other method? That source need to be dealt with whatever it is.

I am sure there are many more but these are the things I can think off from top of my mind.

Burying the issue saying culprits been jailed is not a solution. We need to tackle the root cause, else this will continue to happen in future.
 
I know some people think that educated Brits don't blame the whole UK Pak community collectively but from everything i have seen online, it is clear that people do blame the entire community as a collective.
 
I know some people think that educated Brits don't blame the whole UK Pak community collectively but from everything i have seen online, it is clear that people do blame the entire community as a collective.
There are not many educated Brits. They are mostly Sun readers.

They will of course blame the whole community.

The decent members of the Pakistani community just has to ride the wave for now.
 
Excellent post. Look now we are talking without old blame game on Hindus, Indians etc.

1. I would like to know the root cause why this animalistic behaviour only coming from Pakistani population of South East asia and not other regions? Is there some intrinsic reason we are missing? If yes, maybe schools in Britain need to have a chapter on this in moral science sylabus.

2. We need to find the root cause why the victims were only white girls? Is there some sort of racism involved?

3 How are they gaining access to vulnerable girls? Are they using drugs or any other method? That source need to be dealt with whatever it is.

I am sure there are many more but these are the things I can think off from top of my mind.

Burying the issue saying culprits been jailed is not a solution. We need to tackle the root cause, else this will continue to happen in future.

1. We have already established that the Pakistanis involved were not acting according to religious compunction as sex outside of marriage and alcohol are strictly forbidden. Therefore we can only assume it is cultural. Alcohol use is widely accepted in British culture and it can be abused. Sex with minors could be cultural hangover from child prostitution in the subcontinent which is still rife today. Abuse of young girls in temples was legitimised and accepted for a long time. See the source I posted above. You are right, schools may need a chapter on this moral science.

2. White girls tend to be those who end up in care homes and hanging around street corners with no guardians in sight. That would make them more vulnerable to predators.

3. See above.

Feel free to ask further questions.
 
1. We have already established that the Pakistanis involved were not acting according to religious compunction as sex outside of marriage and alcohol are strictly forbidden. Therefore we can only assume it is cultural. Alcohol use is widely accepted in British culture and it can be abused. Sex with minors could be cultural hangover from child prostitution in the subcontinent which is still rife today. Abuse of young girls in temples was legitimised and accepted for a long time. See the source I posted above. You are right, schools may need a chapter on this moral science.

2. White girls tend to be those who end up in care homes and hanging around street corners with no guardians in sight. That would make them more vulnerable to predators.

3. See above.

Feel free to ask further questions.

Partially agreed with point #1 and disagree with point #2. But lets agree to disagree bro...this is the beauty of debates.

🙂
 
what is your disagreement with his point number 2?


Yes, that is what I found a bit strange as well. Don't think most people would have any argument about it, and it actually had a large bearing on how seriously the police took the cases.
 
1. We have already established that the Pakistanis involved were not acting according to religious compunction as sex outside of marriage and alcohol are strictly forbidden. Therefore we can only assume it is cultural. Alcohol use is widely accepted in British culture and it can be abused. Sex with minors could be cultural hangover from child prostitution in the subcontinent which is still rife today. Abuse of young girls in temples was legitimised and accepted for a long time. See the source I posted above. You are right, schools may need a chapter on this moral science.

2. White girls tend to be those who end up in care homes and hanging around street corners with no guardians in sight. That would make them more vulnerable to predators.

3. See above.

Feel free to ask further questions.

Very valid points.

Point 2 is the glaring issue, which allowes these Predators to pray on the vulnerable. Its a very complex situation for the authorities as well.

We have vulnerable kids brought in toxic Family surroundings which involves drug, alcohol, negligence, and even the education settings then neglects them by throwing majority of these kids in to behavioral special schools, with zero chance of a decent future who then end up in these situations.

Very worrying times ahead.
 
WHat is your reason for why these men targetted these specific young girls?

Because Asian men find white girls pretty. They know they cant date them as white girls mostly fancy men from same ethnicity. So they fulfil their lust by virtue of forced sex.

Why do you think they never target brown girls? Are you saying no brown girl is unavailable?
 
Because Asian men find white girls pretty. They know they cant date them as white girls mostly fancy men from same ethnicity. So they fulfil their lust by virtue of forced sex.

Why do you think they never target brown girls? Are you saying no brown girl is unavailable?
I think it's more down to availability.

You won't see many Indian, Pakistani or East African girls that are as vulnerable as these poor white girls were that are around at night times - most of these men are cabbies take away workers etc people involved in night time economy.

But there isn't a real answer that you and I can provide I guess. Only the perpetrators can answer it.
 
If that was the case I would never have opened the thread in the first place since I know Indians are going to be chiming in as they are very vocal on TP when there is something to criticise Pakistanis or Muslims about. Not a problem, an internal discussion between BritPaks would be probably more fruitful, but it's not going to happen so we work with what we've got.

I would love to be a fly on the wall if such a discussion is ongoing. Surely there will be some interesting nuggets rather than the "India India India" stuff beamed out here.

Sadly, there doesn't seem to even be a relevant sub-reddit for this community. Even the overall British Muslim one just has random questions on mosque addresses and stuff.
 
Because Asian men find white girls pretty. They know they cant date them as white girls mostly fancy men from same ethnicity. So they fulfil their lust by virtue of forced sex.

Why do you think they never target brown girls? Are you saying no brown girl is unavailable?

Honestly this feels like you projecting somewhat. Pretty girls are pretty girls, and good looking men don't have much trouble attracting them regardless of skin colour. But these girls who were groomed weren't particularly pretty, if anything they were probably a bit on the rough side. And the guys doing the grooming were definitely ugly, as you would expect from people who have to resort to grooming to get a girl.
 
I would love to be a fly on the wall if such a discussion is ongoing. Surely there will be some interesting nuggets rather than the "India India India" stuff beamed out here.

Sadly, there doesn't seem to even be a relevant sub-reddit for this community. Even the overall British Muslim one just has random questions on mosque addresses and stuff.
You know how you always say BIMARU gonna BIMARU or whatever.

The discussion amongst British Pakistanis is similar. These people are the BIMARU of our community, multi generational degenerates.
 
Sex with minors could be cultural hangover from child prostitution in the subcontinent which is still rife today. Abuse of young girls in temples was legitimised and accepted for a long time.

Where did you get that nugget from lol ?

The culprits are british pakistanis - ergo muslim & subcontinent in origin. Sex with minors is either a muslim cultural hangover or a subcontinental cultural hangover - how do we determine which part of their identity is responsible for their behaviour ?
 


Here is a possible explanation of cultural hangover.
 
I would love to be a fly on the wall if such a discussion is ongoing. Surely there will be some interesting nuggets rather than the "India India India" stuff beamed out here.

Sadly, there doesn't seem to even be a relevant sub-reddit for this community. Even the overall British Muslim one just has random questions on mosque addresses and stuff.
You can look at the first 6 pages of this thread to see British Pakistanis discussing it. It would sadly be impossible now with the amount of anti Pakistani Indians who are now on this forum.
 
You can look at the first 6 pages of this thread to see British Pakistanis discussing it. It would sadly be impossible now with the amount of anti Pakistani Indians who are now on this forum.

Who are these 'anti-Pakistani' Indians ? Name them and shame them. Vague accusations like these are easy to make.
 
Where did you get that nugget from lol ?

The culprits are british pakistanis - ergo muslim & subcontinent in origin. Sex with minors is either a muslim cultural hangover or a subcontinental cultural hangover - how do we determine which part of their identity is responsible for their behaviour ?
As you seem to have decided that you are on expert on child abuse,Explain which part of Jimmy Savilles identity was responsible for his sex crimes? Or those British guys that go and rape pre pubescent children in SE Asia.
 
As you seem to have decided that you are on expert on child abuse,Explain which part of Jimmy Savilles identity was responsible for his sex crimes? Or those British guys that go and rape pre pubescent children in SE Asia.

That is a question that @Cpt. Rishwat can answer for you. He scientifically zeroed in on subcontinental culture, a proxy for hindu culture I assume, as the reason for the problem of britpak grooming gangs.

Similiarly he'll be able to determine which aspect of Jimmy Saville's cultural identity was responsible for his paedo behaviour.
 
That is a question that @Cpt. Rishwat can answer for you. He scientifically zeroed in on subcontinental culture, a proxy for hindu culture I assume, as the reason for the problem of britpak grooming gangs.

Similiarly he'll be able to determine which aspect of Jimmy Saville's cultural identity was responsible for his paedo behaviour.

I don't actually believe paedophila or grooming is specific to one culture, it can probably be found across all societies. It wasn't my idea to attribute racial or nationalistic aspects to this, I think I've made it pretty clear that this has been done to appeal to the jingo bingo crowds.

But liberal societies will always make it easier because it makes everything more accessible by it's nature.
 
That is a question that @Cpt. Rishwat can answer for you. He scientifically zeroed in on subcontinental culture, a proxy for hindu culture I assume, as the reason for the problem of britpak grooming gangs.

Similiarly he'll be able to determine which aspect of Jimmy Saville's cultural identity was responsible for his paedo behaviour.
As an honourary white man, i need you to explain as apparently you are an expert on why men rape children. Was it Jimmy's Savilles White up bringing? Was it his Christian up bringing? Or is it the desi saying about your dog is just a dog, while ours is called Tommy( i know it doesn't translate well)
 
As an honourary white man, i need you to explain as apparently you are an expert on why men rape children. Was it Jimmy's Savilles White up bringing? Was it his Christian up bringing? Or is it the desi saying about your dog is just a dog, while ours is called Tommy( i know it doesn't translate well)

You'll have to ask that to the honourary white man on PP whoever he is, about Jimmy Saville. Seems like a case of powerful person getting away with what he wanted. As the saying goes - 'if you want to test the character of a man, give him power

If there is outsized representation of a community's involvement in a criminal act, authorities should investigate the possible cultural patterns at play. I'm sure you agree. The fact that people from your community are involved doesn't make that any less true.
 
It's pretty damning that Pakistani grooming gangs are a thing now.


Either there are too many evil people or stupid people being trapped by criminal gangs not necessarily Pakistani
 
You'll have to ask that to the honourary white man on PP whoever he is, about Jimmy Saville. Seems like a case of powerful person getting away with what he wanted. As the saying goes - 'if you want to test the character of a man, give him power

If there is outsized representation of a community's involvement in a criminal act, authorities should investigate the possible cultural patterns at play. I'm sure you agree. The fact that people from your community are involved doesn't make that any less true.
So Jimmy's whiteness or Christianity didn't matter and he was a just an individual thga abused his power but when any PK or Muslim does something wrong it must be their religion or ethnicity. This is about the best definition you can ever get for racism. That isnt a surprise for you guys that love the white man so much, you want to believe that they are whiter than white.
 
So Jimmy's whiteness or Christianity didn't matter and he was a just an individual thga abused his power but when any PK or Muslim does something wrong it must be their religion or ethnicity. This is about the best definition you can ever get for racism. That isnt a surprise for you guys that love the white man so much, you want to believe that they are whiter than white.

Look at it from a logical point of view. If this was a religion thing, a significant chunk of muslims would be engaging in this kind of awful behaviour but they don't. If it was a Pakistani thing, majority of pakistanis would be involved in this kind of awful behaviour but they are not.

And yet, the Home Office reports say BritPaks are 21 times more likely to be a part of grooming gangs than a white person. How should the authorities react to this data iyo ?

PS: what's with the 'u love white man' jibe, its hilarious.
 
PS: what's with the 'u love white man' jibe, its hilarious.

His landlord is white, his boss is white, his Prime Minister is white - every morning he wakes up at the behest of all of these people to continue living where he is, so he believes people living continents away too worship white.
 
Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are giving bad name to all brown skin people abroad including us Bharatiya's.
 
East London and Tower Hamlets is filled with these guys now. I keep hearing this kind of accent in areas like Whitechapel, Stephney Green, Bethnal Green, Bow Road etc. Awful awful people

How useless is the British immigration system? Such people should be deported back to Chittagong, Kolkata or Karachi without a second thought.
 
Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are giving bad name to all brown skin people abroad including us Bharatiya's.
Plz stop peddling sweeping propaganda
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Indian Man Extradited To UK Sent To Life In Jail On Rape, Murder Charges

A 36-year-old man, who was extradited from India to the UK, was sentenced to life in prison in London today after he was found guilty of raping multiple women and a murder at a trial.

Aman Vyas was sentenced by UK's Croydon Crown Court, with a recommended minimum term behind bars of 37 years.

"We are pleased with today's sentence which reflects the gravity of Vyas's crimes. At last the victims and their families have seen the man responsible for such terrible crimes brought to justice. This is a long sentence that recognises the cruelty and depravity of Vyas's actions," Scotland Yard case officer Detective Sergeant Shaleena Sheikh said.

"Aman Vyas carried out horrific and violent attacks on three women which, tragically, culminated in the murder of Michelle Samaraweera. He then did all he could to evade responsibility for his crimes and fled to India. He added further distress to those he hurt by subjecting them to a trial. I would like to commend the dignity and bravery shown by his victims and their families throughout this process, which has lasted more than 10 years," Ms Sheikh said.

Aman Vyas was also sentenced for grievous bodily harm with intent (14 years), for the rape of a woman (16 years and five months), for the rape of a second woman (18-and-a-half years), for the rape of a third woman (18-and-a-half years), and the rape of Michelle Samaraweera, the murder victim, (18-and-a-half years).

 
Look at it from a logical point of view. If this was a religion thing, a significant chunk of muslims would be engaging in this kind of awful behaviour but they don't. If it was a Pakistani thing, majority of pakistanis would be involved in this kind of awful behaviour but they are not.

And yet, the Home Office reports say BritPaks are 21 times more likely to be a part of grooming gangs than a white person. How should the authorities react to this data iyo ?

PS: what's with the 'u love white man' jibe, its hilarious.
They should react like they react to all crime and jail the culprits. It's that simple
 
How useless is the British immigration system? Such people should be deported back to Chittagong, Kolkata or Karachi without a second thought.

I heard your city Bengaluru is filled with them as well. Why aren't your state govt deporting them? They are too busy chanting Pakistan zindabaad is it?

:inti
 
And yet you did.

Yes I did. Because if putting a racial or national slant on evil behaviour is going to be a thing, then don't think it only goes one way. As you can see, @Rajdeep has already followed your post with more jingo bingo slurs, so don't worry, there's a big shiny mirror which needs to be held up so he and like minded individuals can have a good gawk for some self reflection.
 
I heard your city Bengaluru is filled with them as well. Why aren't your state govt deporting them? They are too busy chanting Pakistan zindabaad is it?

:inti

Well it was renamed from Bangalore to Bengal-uru for a reason. 😉
 
Yes I did. Because if putting a racial or national slant on evil behaviour is going to be a thing, then don't think it only goes one way. As you can see, @Rajdeep has already followed your post with more jingo bingo slurs, so don't worry, there's a big shiny mirror which needs to be held up so he and like minded individuals can have a good gawk for some self reflection.
Lets be honest brother, the only reason you don't want to give it a national slant because the culprits were Pakistani muslims i.e the place & religion same as yours. If it was an Indian Hindu, you would be the first one to generalize.

#KaptaanSahab

:kp
 
Lets be honest brother, the only reason you don't want to give it a national slant because the culprits were Pakistani muslims i.e the place & religion same as yours. If it was an Indian Hindu, you would be the first one to generalize.

#KaptaanSahab

:kp


No, Pakistanis here are very self critical in general, but only right we British Pakistanis demand, is if a racial element is going to be attached to perversion or crime, then we should judge all such perversions and crimes by race, not just Pakistani.

So then there should be headlines screaming about the various paedo rings down the years such as the celebrities, Catholic church all being white.

As for the generalisation of Indians, well you must have missed that bit in my post about the big shiny mirror. If you are forced to look at it when you and your friends come to jingo bingo, well I'd say that's fair enough.
 

Anti-Pakistan rhetoric in UK: Diaspora unity required​


The Pakistani diaspora in the UK, despite constituting only 2% of the population, has faced disproportionate scrutiny in discussions surrounding grooming gangs, leading to an unfair and damaging narrative.

The persistent framing of this issue often serves to benefit far-right groups and foreign interests, reinforcing harmful stereotypes and undermining the community’s reputation.

This narrative, which implicates Pakistanis as a whole, fails to address the actions of a small minority of individuals, instead focusing on their ethnic background.

While the Pakistani state acknowledges that a small segment within the diaspora may have acted against Pakistan’s interests, it firmly supports its people, highlighting that they remain an integral part of the nation.

In these challenging times, it is essential for the diaspora to align with Pakistan’s efforts to combat false narratives and protect their global reputation.

The Pakistani government reaffirms its support for the diaspora, emphasising that collective strength and unity are the most effective responses to divisive rhetoric and targeted campaigns.

Pakistan urged the diaspora to remain steadfast in the face of such negative portrayals and to continue their contributions to global society.

Foreign Office response

In response to the growing racial and Islamophobic rhetoric towards the Pakistani diaspora in the UK, the Foreign Office (FO) expressed its deep concerns and categorically condemned the demonisation of an entire community based on the actions of a few individuals.

A spokesperson for the FO stated: “Pakistan-UK friendship is characterised by warmth, cordiality, robust cooperation, and trust. Nurtured over decades, this relationship remains a top priority of Pakistan's foreign policy.” The spokesperson further highlighted the significant role that British Pakistanis play in strengthening the ties between the two nations, noting their contributions across trade, investment, education, security, counter-terrorism, and people-to-people contacts.

Shafqat Ali Khan, a senior official at the FO, emphasised the historical and ongoing contributions of British Pakistanis to the UK. "The presence of 1.7 million British Pakistanis provides the strongest link between our two friendly countries," he said.

He also pointed out the role of British Pakistanis in the British Indian Army, where many Muslim soldiers sacrificed their lives for democracy in both world wars.

The FO condemned any attempt to demonise such a large and diverse community based on the actions of a few individuals.

In response to recent posts by Elon Musk, the FO reiterated that such false claims should not overshadow the significant and positive contributions made by British Pakistanis.

The provocative comments by Musk also prompted a response from the National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC), which clarified that the vast majority of sexual grooming gang offences are carried out by white men, countering the harmful stereotype being perpetuated.

Musk joins anti-Pakistan tirade

Recently, Elon Musk has endorsed an anti-Pakistan narrative promoted by Priyanka Chaturvedi, a Rajya Sabha MP linked to the Shiv Sena (UBT) party.

Chaturvedi sparked controversy when she claimed that the blame for grooming gangs in the UK should not be placed on Asia as a whole, but rather on "one rogue nation"—Pakistan. Musk, the CEO of SpaceX and Tesla, publicly supported this statement, calling it "true" on social media, aligning himself with Chaturvedi’s position.

The debate around grooming gangs in the UK has intensified following remarks by Labour leader and Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who recalled overseeing the first prosecution of an Asian grooming gang while heading the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) between 2008 and 2013. Chaturvedi criticised Starmer’s narrative, questioning the tendency to associate the issue of grooming gangs with entire ethnic communities.

Musk also voiced his disapproval of Starmer, who has rejected calls for a new national inquiry, advocating instead for the implementation of recommendations from an earlier seven-year inquiry into child sexual exploitation.

Musk’s backing of the anti-Pakistan narrative comes at a time when his company, Starlink, is reportedly engaged in discussions with Pakistani authorities over licensing issues related to satellite internet services.

Some people were commenting online that perhaps Musk’s comments were a tactic to exert pressure on Pakistani authorities and gain leverage.

 
There's sick People in all walks of life .
May these sick Peados Rot behind bars for ever.

Horrible and evil just like the people that brought shame to all human beings by abusing these teenage girls. I wonder if it's their Scottishness or the religion?
@RexRex
@Varun
 
Horrible and evil just like the people that brought shame to all human beings by abusing these teenage girls. I wonder if it's their Scottishness or the religion?
@RexRex
@Varun

What's telling is that the hindutva posters who have shouted loudly about the Pakistan connections to grooming, when they are asked should we look for racial connections to all disgusting crimes, go silent or say this thread is about Asian groomers. They are also then quick to say that it should be correctly labelled as Pakistani groomer not Asian.

So this tells us they are not really concerned about victims of grooming or their welfare, but their real desire is that Pakistanis in Britain get tarred with this reputation.
 
What a wonderful substantial claim provided with proof.
I don't think you understand the context but have just seen the word Hindu and cracked for some reason.

This page is backed by Guramit Singh who is Tommy Robinson's right hand man.
 
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