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Australia crowned ICC World Test Champions with a 209-win over India in the final

Ahmed216 said:
India has hardly won a session in this game. Stuff of champions
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They still made it to the finals which is a reflection of 2 years of winning against a lot of others. 2nd best is also champion stuff compared to those who didnt make it....just like T20 WC where india were pathetic and much behind other sides
 
Could be over soon this.

Aussies in full control and toying with India.
 
We should not blame Kohli, but the blame is firmly on the IPL, a tournament which the majority of its fans believe is bigger than the World Cup (ODI & T20).

Lets face it, the Indian Test players just look tired, and now dejected.
 
Mamoon said:
Winning back to back to Test series in Australia is a bigger deal than winning a WTC final. The WTC Final is a glorified exhibition match.

Australia have not done it against India when it matters most. They have lost home and away. A one-off game doesn’t reflect the real relative strength of two sides but a Test series does.

Australia would happily trade this match for winning back to back Test series in India.
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Can't comment it from an Indian or Australian perspective. All I know from a neutral is Australia are about to become World Champions.
 
atleast Pakistan holds an ICC championship title currently. While India holds nothing :)))

Zaleel hora hai India
 
As a Indian fan, I'm not surprise by their dismal performance. Infact i had no hopes from them since the start. Dragging match to fifth day is some achievement for them👍🏻
No heartbreak this time.
 
They should change the cycle to 4 years to keep the WTC on par with WC in terms of value.

Don't want to water it down like a T20 WC.
 
Major said:
atleast Pakistan holds an ICC championship title currently. While India holds nothing :)))

Zaleel hora hai India
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true - india holds nothing.
Not even 0-12 consecutive hidings in tests in a particular souther hemisphere nation.
India holds nothing - But definately not 'Zaleel hora'.:salute
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
yes, knowing they are the 2nd best Test team. Which still takes some doing.
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In a 2 year cycle playing 6 Test series? Sure, if you insist.

Runners up are considered the first losers in any sport; no one remembers the runners up.

Where were you for 4 days? Why have you made a sudden appearance now? To celebrate 2nd place?
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
They still made it to the finals which is a reflection of 2 years of winning against a lot of others. 2nd best is also champion stuff compared to those who didnt make it....just like T20 WC where india were pathetic and much behind other sides
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It only reflects how dominant India are at home because of spinners opening the bowling in favourable conditions. Their batting is fast becoming minnow level and fast bowling without Bumrah is nothing special too.
Congrats in advance for making the WTC final 2025. And best wishes for a miracle win
 
Ted123 said:
India are minnows in England, South Africa and New Zealand. Proved again.
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And everyone is a minnow in India. Your point is?

India is the best Test team since 2015 which is reflected by the number of weeks they have spent at the top of the rankings compared to other sides.

As I said, the WTC Final is a glorified exhibition match. There are several flaws with the current system.

In my opinion, there are two options to make this a credible tournament:

Option 1:

All teams should play each other home and away and play the same number of matches.

Option 2:

Nothing else changes except there should be a WTC Final Series (best of 3) not a one-off match.

Option 1 is unrealistic because cricket is riddled with politics and driven by money. You can’t expect India to play Pakistan and you can’t expect Australia to play the same number of Test matches with Ireland as they would against England.

Option 2 is realistic and it should be seriously considered. It would be a strong indicator of the relative strength of the two sides because a one-off game doesn’t tell us much.

The current WTC cycle is incapable of determining the two best sides that can qualify for the final. Therefore, the least ICC can do is to ensure that the final is a best of 3 so that the two teams that qualify can be properly tested against each other.
 
Technics 1210 said:
We should not blame Kohli, but the blame is firmly on the IPL, a tournament which the majority of its fans believe is bigger than the World Cup (ODI & T20).

Lets face it, the Indian Test players just look tired, and now dejected.
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This is the biggest grudge I have with Indian cricket. They are in process of destroying International cricket
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
true - india holds nothing.
Not even 0-12 consecutive hidings in tests in a particular souther hemisphere nation.
India holds nothing - But definately not 'Zaleel hora'.:salute
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:))) yeh you celebrate that while otehr teams celebrate their ICC trophies.

Souther hemisphere kay champions :)))
 
Aman said:
Can't comment it from an Indian or Australian perspective. All I know from a neutral is Australia are about to become World Champions.
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But as a NZ fan, you can comment because you won this two years ago.

I have a hard time believing that you would not trade the WTC Final 2021 for winning back to back Test series in Australia or India.
 
I can see the Indian media headlines tomorrow.

The Gill catch will resonate for at least 2 years.
 
Technics 1210 said:
In a 2 year cycle playing 6 Test series? Sure, if you insist.

Runners up are considered the first losers in any sport; no one remembers the runners up.

Where were you for 4 days? Why have you made a sudden appearance now? To celebrate 2nd place?
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I was here for all 4 days and comment on india playing international cricket no matter if they win or loose. first runner ups are still better than the others who ran the race ...just like pak in 2022 20/20 wc are defo better in 20/20 than india is the truth no disgrace in saying that.
when you run down someone who came second - thats when its pathetic. And lastly, we still had some memorable test triumps...
 
Every great team in the history of cricket has both dominated bilateral cricket and won an ICC trophy. The Australians won three World Cups in the 1990s and 2000s. West Indies won two World Cups in the 1970s.

India undoubtedly established their home as a fortress but their failure to win a single ICC tournament in a decade is a major black mark against this team's legacy. Instead they will be ranked alongside the South African team of the late 2000s-early 2010s.

IMO excess sentimentality and a celebrity culture resulting in a reluctance to drop big names is a factor. Australia and West Indies were utterly ruthless in selection. Australia replaced Ian Healy with Adam Gilchrist. West Indies axed Andy Roberts and Malcolm Marshall took over as leader of the attack.

Some soul searching needed ahead of the next WTC cycle.
 
Mamoon said:
But as a NZ fan, you can comment because you won this two years ago.

I have a hard time believing that you would not trade the WTC Final 2021 for winning back to back Test series in Australia or India.
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Hell no lol.

I'm taking a world championship. It's more valuable. Only regulars would remember when we won a Test series in those countries. I can't even remember the years we won there. WTC is different, even casuals would know we won a WTC against India in 2021.
 
Congratulations Australia. Deserving WTC champions

Top class captaincy by Cummins. He showed his class with the win against Pakistan away, today he is a WTC champion captain!
 
Major said:
:))) yeh you celebrate that while otehr teams celebrate their ICC trophies.

Souther hemisphere kay champions :)))
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I celebrate our truimphs, do not run down others misfortunes but when you bring up things like 'zaleel hora' which is a bit rich considering your record of 0-12 consecutive against the same team we have lost - i think southern hemisphere kay champs has still a better ring to it. Peace bhai :)
 
Congratulations Australia. Apart from the first session, they dominated this final and really laid down a marker ahead of the Ashes.
 
Markhor said:
Every great team in the history of cricket has both dominated bilateral cricket and won an ICC trophy. The Australians won three World Cups in the 1990s and 2000s. West Indies won two World Cups in the 1970s.

India undoubtedly established their home as a fortress but their failure to win a single ICC tournament in a decade is a major black mark against this team's legacy. Instead they will be ranked alongside the South African team of the late 2000s-early 2010s.

IMO excess sentimentality and a celebrity culture resulting in a reluctance to drop big names is a factor. Australia and West Indies were utterly ruthless in selection. Australia replaced Ian Healy with Adam Gilchrist. West Indies axed Andy Roberts and Malcolm Marshall took over as leader of the attack.

Some soul searching needed ahead of the next WTC cycle.
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Last chance with the ODI WC at home later this year. If they can't do it there, you imagine this generation will have been a massive disappointment.
 
9th ICC trophy for Australia.

No one will remember India’s Test series fluke win down under, Australia have triumphed and are now Word Test Champions.
 
Markhor said:
Every great team in the history of cricket has both dominated bilateral cricket and won an ICC trophy. The Australians won three World Cups in the 1990s and 2000s. West Indies won two World Cups in the 1970s.

India undoubtedly established their home as a fortress but their failure to win a single ICC tournament in a decade is a major black mark against this team's legacy. Instead they will be ranked alongside the South African team of the late 2000s-early 2010s.

IMO excess sentimentality and a celebrity culture resulting in a reluctance to drop big names is a factor. Australia and West Indies were utterly ruthless in selection. Australia replaced Ian Healy with Adam Gilchrist. West Indies axed Andy Roberts and Malcolm Marshall took over as leader of the attack.

Some soul searching needed ahead of the next WTC cycle.
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Top post Sir
 
Technics 1210 said:
9th ICC trophy for Australia.

No one will remember India’s Test series fluke win down under, Australia have triumphed and are now Word Test Champions.
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a pity the real world champs could never match that fluke, incident that fluke was twice...
 
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CrIc_Mystique said:
I was here for all 4 days and comment on india playing international cricket no matter if they win or loose. first runner ups are still better than the others who ran the race ...just like pak in 2022 20/20 wc are defo better in 20/20 than india is the truth no disgrace in saying that.
when you run down someone who came second - thats when its pathetic. And lastly, we still had some memorable test triumps...
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I do not remember any of your posts in the past 4 days.

Anyway, you cling to those memorable fluke test wins, because when you lose, it is only natural to cling to positive memories - this is known as compensation psychology.

Meanwhile the world will now remember Australia as Word Test Champions - and their victory etched for an eternity in the annals of World Test Champion history.
 
Markhor said:
Every great team in the history of cricket has both dominated bilateral cricket and won an ICC trophy. The Australians won three World Cups in the 1990s and 2000s. West Indies won two World Cups in the 1970s.

India undoubtedly established their home as a fortress but their failure to win a single ICC tournament in a decade is a major black mark against this team's legacy. Instead they will be ranked alongside the South African team of the late 2000s-early 2010s.

IMO excess sentimentality and a celebrity culture resulting in a reluctance to drop big names is a factor. Australia and West Indies were utterly ruthless in selection. Australia replaced Ian Healy with Adam Gilchrist. West Indies axed Andy Roberts and Malcolm Marshall took over as leader of the attack.

Some soul searching needed ahead of the next WTC cycle.
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Wonderful, absolutely true...
i hope indian cricket starts with replacing Rahul Dravid.
Planning a succession as about 8 of our guys will be retiring in one big hit.
We will be loosing more than winning....cant see any real talent taking us forward. ....thanks to BCCI
's money first policy
 
India lacked bowling firepower in the match.



Where is the next WTC final?

Hopefully not england.
 
Technics 1210 said:
I do not remember any of your posts in the past 4 days.

Anyway, you cling to those memorable fluke test wins, because when you lose, it is only natural to cling to positive memories - this is known as compensation psychology.

Meanwhile the world will now remember Australia as Word Test Champions - and their victory etched for an eternity in the annals of World Test Champion history.
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you might want to check the pages over the last 4 days, i dont post for your memory......fluke - yeah right ...:)...keep them coming
 
Indian bowlers didn’t have enough rest after playing in IPL.Their pace is down.Australian bowlers on the other were rusty esp Starc.He is a rhythm bowler and needs a few games to get going.Overall Australian batting and bowling was better.They deserve to win.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
you might want to check the pages over the last 4 days, i dont post for your memory......fluke - yeah right ...:)...keep them coming
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It’s ok, I am sure you will now watch the highlights of India’s fluke series with in Australia to comfort your loss.

:)
 
Australia are World Test Champions after completing a 209-run win over India in the WTC Final at The Oval.

Superb first-innings centuries from Travis Head and Steve Smith gave Australia control of the Test early on, but India responded well to force the match to a fifth day, falling short of what would have been an all-time record chase to win a Test as they were bowled out for 234.

Scott Boland got the ball rolling with two early dismissals in the day, with Nathan Lyon and Mitchell Starc also among the wickets as Australia rattled through India to win the World Test Championship title.

Australia were the dominant team during the WTC cycle, finishing top of the standings to qualify for the showpiece final against India thanks to 11 wins from 19 matches.

Nathan Lyon ended this Test Championship campaign as the world’s highest wicket-taker.

And four of the top six run-scorers in the WTC cycle were Australian, with only Joe Root scoring more than Usman Khawaja (1621) and Marnus Labuschagne (1576), and the first innings heroes Head and Smith scoring 1407 and 1389 runs respectively in the Championship.

India and Australia stars including Virat Kohli and Pat Cummins in a tribute to red-ball cricket ahead of the ICC World Test Championship Final
India’s strong finish to their campaign saw them bag the second spot in the standings and qualify for the final against Australia in south London.

But defeat means that India have now lost each of the two WTC Finals to have been held since the conception of the tournament.

Day five of this 2023 Final had resumed with all results still possible, with Australia requiring seven wickets to win and India needing 280 more runs at the start of play.

With Virat Kohli and Ajinkya Rahane unbeaten overnight there was still some hope for India that they could pull a record fourth-innings chase.

But Boland got the ball rolling in the first hour.

A tempter that moved away from Virat Kohli lured the Indian talisman into a risky drive, and Smith held on brilliantly in the cordon as the ball flew off the edge.

And Boland struck again two balls later, sending down a peach that left Ravindra Jadeja just enough to find the edge, with Alex Carey the grateful recipient behind the stumps.

It was a matter of when not if when Mitchell Starc removed Ajinkya Rahane, and wickets tumbled throughout the remainder of the morning session, with Australia wrapping it up before lunch.

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Awesome display by Aus, wonderful bowling and cathing. Congrats and deserving to win!
their intensity was right up there.
This win will surely send the thunderflash down the English.Cam green is destined to be one of the all time Gully fielders.
for our guys, considering we came in off the cold (or off the heat i shoud say)...good effort - we fought, some good moments, we should have fought more - the end was not a reflection of two years of hard graft and some good wins.
This ashes is sure to be one explosive one, a real celebration of test cricket and should be one that every lover of test cricket will savor.
 
There was never a doubt in my mind that Aussies will win this before the game even started and after the second say It was pretty much written in stone.

These days on Twitter and other social media platforms there is unnecessary hype created by so called 'experts' and 'pundits' just to keep the audience engaged so that they watch the game. These experts probably get paid by the broadcasters for doing this. If anyone thought a world record chase on a sportive wicket in England will be achieved by this Indian batting line up... I mean what can I say, that guy has to be a kid who has probably watched very little cricket to even understand how it works or a fool.

Anyways congratulations to Australia. What an amazing team they are!

Just for the record last 3 Ind-Aus tests, Aus are up 2-0 and they've also won the last ODI series in India.
 
Aus lost to India back to back in bilateral series and won the final. How many time we have seen teams losing in league matches to the team they beat in final ? One I remember Pakistan in CT 2017.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
I celebrate our truimphs, do not run down others misfortunes but when you bring up things like 'zaleel hora' which is a bit rich considering your record of 0-12 consecutive against the same team we have lost - i think southern hemisphere kay champs has still a better ring to it. Peace bhai :)
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South Hemisphere kay champions :)))

Yeh you enjoy that, while other teams enjoy their actual ICC trophies that they hold.

Next you can be the champions of hearts tooo...
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
Awesome display by Aus, wonderful bowling and cathing. Congrats and deserving to win!
their intensity was right up there.
This win will surely send the thunderflash down the English.Cam green is destined to be one of the all time Gully fielders.
for our guys, considering we came in off the cold (or off the heat i shoud say)...good effort - we fought, some good moments, we should have fought more - the end was not a reflection of two years of hard graft and some good wins.
This ashes is sure to be one explosive one, a real celebration of test cricket and should be one that every lover of test cricket will savor.
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India ko thand lagai thee, thats why they lost? ok

Probably explains why they choke in ICC tournaments. Thand lagai thee
 
There goes the theory of India being a champion test team of the decade and all that jazz.
 
Indian cricket team skipper Rohit Sharma made it clear that the batter were not able to perform well at The Oval and they failed to show promise at the World Test Championship (WTC) Final against Australia on Sunday. India had eight batters with scores between 40 and 49 but most of them were not able to convert it into a big innings. It proved to be costly for the Rohit-led side as they were beaten comprehensively in the summit clash. The India skipper added that the bowlers did have plans against Steve Smith and Travis Head but there did not work and that proved to be a turning point.

It was a tough one. We started well winning the toss and putting them into bat in those conditions. We bowled pretty well in the first session and then we let ourselves down a little bit with how we bowled. But again, credit to the Australian batters, in particular, Travis Head came in and played really well. That took us off guard a little bit and then we knew it was always hard to come back. We put a up show. We fought hard but congratulations to Australia. We spoke of a lot of things. We spoke of bowling tighter lines. But it didn't work out. Things like that can happen," he said at the presentation.

"I thought it was a great fightback from Rahane and Shardul after being 5 down for 150. They stood up and put up a good partnership there and kept us in the game. We bowled pretty well in the second innings. Again we didn't apply ourselves with the bat. It was a good pitch to bat on. All five days the pitch behaved pretty well and we didn't capitalise. We've worked really hard for four years to make two finals. It's disappointment for us. We would like to go one better. But you cannot take anything away from what we've done in the two years. It's a great effort. A lot of players took part in those series. We'll keep our heads high and fight for the next championship as well," he added,

India's poor show at the ICC events continued as Australia won their maiden World Test Championship title with a crushing 209-run victory on the fifth day of the summit clash.

This was India's second defeat in successive WTC finals after losing to New Zealand in 2021 in the inaugural edition.

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Congrats to Australia, completely dominated the final, India were just outplayed by the better side, although on Day 5 they couldn’t cope with the pressure, playing some horrible stokes in conditions which are no too alien for them.

There’s always an attempt to discredit a victory which didn’t go the way you wanted, but when it comes to ICC events, Australia are invincible. The ODI WC is obviously prestigious, and new tournaments take time to marinate, am sure there wouldn’t have been as much hype for the first couple of ODI WC’s. But this is history, NZ will go down as the inaugural champions and Australia the second, in the ultimate Test, years from now, nothing else will matter, the record will show a world championship victory.
 
And to the bitter Indian fans (not all obv) making comparisons to Pakistan. We don’t hold the current Pakistan team as an example of a good side.

But Indian fans (some) tout this Indian side as an ATG side, so naturally they will be dealt harshly.

Really badly exposed this team.
 
Absolute dominance by Australia. This was a one sided affair for all 5 days.

India were never in the game. They just got outdone in every department.
 
Damp squib in the end.

For all the chest thumping, the talk and the pre match hype - India were totally outplayed from start to finish.
 
TheSultan said:
And to the bitter Indian fans (not all obv) making comparisons to Pakistan. We don’t hold the current Pakistan team as an example of a good side.

But Indian fans (some) tout this Indian side as an ATG side, so naturally they will be dealt harshly.

Really badly exposed this team.
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Result would have been very different had they played this Test in subcontinent.

Indian team combination goes into disarray when they play in SENA countries. Their strength in spinners is gone. With spinners , they also loose their batting depth.

The tests they were winning back at home is due to the trio of Ashwin-Jaddu-Axar. These 3 not only take wickets in buckets, they also score boatload of runs to bailout the poor top order consistently.

Indian tail was too long in this Test starting with Bharat at 6.
 
Technics 1210 said:
We should not blame Kohli, but the blame is firmly on the IPL, a tournament which the majority of its fans believe is bigger than the World Cup (ODI & T20).

Lets face it, the Indian Test players just look tired, and now dejected.
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This is a good point.

Once your mindset is heavily transitioned into T20 mode, it’s not only hard to switch back into Test mode but surely enough your body is also very tired - which results in lack of passion and appetite for victory.

I was expecting better but indeed very disappointing from India.

However, it won’t change much. The focus will be shifted back to IPL and T20 cricket by the players, fans and the boards because money trumps everything.
 
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