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Australia defeat India by 25 runs in 4th ODI

man i am loving it kohli giving it back to the big mouth faulkner! would love to see more in upcoming overs
 
Indians should win today. These boys are visibly angry, and I think a lot of it is down to that 'selfishness' comment.

It was true, but not a smart thing to say, because this is a dream wicket and now they will go out of their way to hammer Aussies and show they are not selfish.

India not getting big scores was due to idiotic strategy, not lack of ability. India's batsmen are actually better players, and now playing properly they will get the runs.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
Indians should win today. These boys are visibly angry, and I think a lot of it is down to that 'selfishness' comment.

It was true, but not a smart thing to say, because this is a dream wicket and now they will go out of their way to hammer Aussies and show they are not selfish.

India not getting big scores was due to idiotic strategy, not lack of ability. India's batsmen are actually better players, and now playing properly they will get the runs.
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It's a dead rubber in a game we're trying out players.

Faulkner was probably told to say something to try and get the public to care
 
Lyon is being murdered today.

This is why Ashwin had NO chance of ANY sorts.

I don't know why but I feel the chasing team always has an advantage of extremely flat grounds (unless of course you are Pakistan).
 
CricketAnalyst said:
Indians should win today. These boys are visibly angry, and I think a lot of it is down to that 'selfishness' comment.

It was true, but not a smart thing to say, because this is a dream wicket and now they will go out of their way to hammer Aussies and show they are not selfish.

India not getting big scores was due to idiotic strategy, not lack of ability. India's batsmen are actually better players, and now playing properly they will get the runs.
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Agree this is India's bet chance to chase down this total. Wicket is perfect for batting, there is hardly any good bowler in this australian attack and no pressure at all on indians because series already lost. And the bonus point for india is that dhawan is looking in good touch
 
Well it's a dead rubber.

But anything looks better than 5-0.

A 4-1 should definitely give some hope. And if Indians can do 3-2, that would be really really great.

Of course, everyone will question the wins, but at the end of the day, it's about providing the team some confidence for future tours. Not making posters happy or unhappy.
 
Australia vs India | 4th ODI | 20th January, 2016 | Canberra | Match thread

Good start but rahane is injured so this is our last batting stand and the tail will start after this


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Even with 3 debutants, I feel this Indian team is at par with this Aussie squad. It takes some time to get used to the conditions, and so many of the younger guys are touring Australia for the first time.

Performance hasn't been too bad this series. In a couple of matches, umpiring decisions made the difference.
 
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Than kohli and dhawan need to slow down a bit and take it to the end. They are playing too many risky shots at the moment and india don't have too many proper bats left.
 
Zak_Fan said:
Even with 3 debutants, I feel this Indian team is at par with this Aussie squad. It takes some time to get used to the conditions, and so many of the younger guys are touring Australia for the first time.

Performance hasn't been too bad this series. In a couple of matches, umpiring decisions made the difference.
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Zak_Fan said:
Even without chasing, India would have won had Bailey been given out as Aussies would be 28/3 at that stge.
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The way Sharma was not given OUT the next game and went on to score a century?

I admire your optimism , but considering that Starc is not playing and Australia have rested their front line attack most of the matches, I do find your comments seriously delusional.

India would not even be marginally close to the real Australian team that won the World Cup.

Not even in the same dimension.

Don't take it to heart, and just hope you win the next two, or maybe even this one.

It still ain't over yet.
 
Strike Rate said:
A spinner leading an australian bowling attack now this is weird!
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Faulkner would be the leader on ODI experience.

Hastings probably the real leader.

None of the pacemen there are good enough to be first choice, Faulkner plays because the selectors only go for three specialists, not because is bowling is particularly good
 
And let me add even at 28-3 you were looking at Maxwell, who has OWNED the Indian attack over the last two games.

So in all likelihood, it would just have made the demolition a little late, but still , inevitable.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
The way Sharma was not given OUT the next game and went on to score a century?

I admire your optimism , but considering that Starc is not playing and Australia have rested their front line attack most of the matches, I do find your comments seriously delusional.

India would not even be marginally close to the real Australian team that won the World Cup.

Not even in the same dimension.

Don't take it to heart, and just hope you win the next two, or maybe even this one.

It still ain't over yet.
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Well, it goes without saying that Aussie full squad will beat India's full squad in Australia.

But, given the teams that played, that decision did make a difference..didn't it?
 
Zak_Fan said:
Well, it goes without saying that Aussie full squad will beat India's full squad in Australia.

But, given the teams that played, that decision did make a difference..didn't it?
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Not really.

As I said, it was one bad decision in the whole series that went Australia's way.

The next day it went India's way when Rohit got to score his century.

It evens out in the end.

There are two conclusions.

1. India can only win when "Every decision goes for them, and without that they can't do a thing."

OR

2. Indian bowlers aren't good enough to get the batsmen out anyways, and would have lost even at 28-3.

I think 2nd is more likely.
 
Zak_Fan said:
Well, it goes without saying that Aussie full squad will beat India's full squad in Australia.

But, given the teams that played, that decision did make a difference..didn't it?
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Made a difference, but for both sides :) And umpiring mistakes are part of the game bro.
 
50 for Kohli, even i hate you but well played sir :) If India want to win this game, Kohli should stay there till the end.
 
I've always maintained the only way India can beat Aus in Aus is by chasing. Simply because of the fact that India don't have the batting to outbat Australia out of the game.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Not really.

As I said, it was one bad decision in the whole series that went Australia's way.

The next day it went India's way when Rohit got to score his century.

It evens out in the end.

There are two conclusions.

1. India can only win when "Every decision goes for them, and without that they can't do a thing."

OR

2. Indian bowlers aren't good enough to get the batsmen out anyways, and would have lost even at 28-3.

I think 2nd is more likely.
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Your statement is incorrect. In the 3rd match, Maxwell too got away very early in his inning. You know what he did.

Secondly, what I said is quite simple if you give it a thought. In this series, the teams that played haven't been far apart.

3 players debuted for India, and the alien conditions meant their starts turned out to be disastrous. Even then, two of the matches, India could have won if it was for correct umpiring. I see this as a positive.
 
SunTzu said:
Apologies, it happened the next match. But with no DRS and Dhoni barely appealing, I doubt any umpire would have given it out.
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It may seem I am crying about incorrect decisions, but I am not. The only point I tried to make is that with some luck, even this very inexperienced team could have come close to winning, and I see it as a positive.
 
Zak_Fan said:
It may seem I am crying about incorrect decisions, but I am not. The only point I tried to make is that with some luck, even this very inexperienced team could have come close to winning, and I see it as a positive.
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Fair enough.
 
street cricketer said:
I've always maintained the only way India can beat Aus in Aus is by chasing. Simply because of the fact that India don't have the batting to outbat Australia out of the game.
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Yep said the same thing if India want to win, they should chase. But tbh if India want to win, Kohli shoud bat till the end. Or at least hit 150-170 with SR of 100+
 
Give it up guys. Australia are a par above India, as well as any other team in the world.

India have the batting to win a game or two, but not the complete side to win the whole series. Australia are deservingly the world champions.
 
Zak_Fan said:
It may seem I am crying about incorrect decisions, but I am not. The only point I tried to make is that with some luck, even this very inexperienced team could have come close to winning, and I see it as a positive.
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Well honestly, it's upto you to see a positive.

The only positives I saw for India in the whole series was that Rohit and Kohli showed that they had the ability to hit big innings everywhere.

Dhawan also showed he had some ability.

Beyond that it was always just a case of Australia outbatting India comprehensively in all games.

But if that makes you feel positive, sure go ahead :)
 
I would fancy chances of India if we were chasing around 300, 350 is a bit too much and no one has chased more then 284 against Aus in Aus.

Yaaro, ek match to jeet jao
 
What about consistency of kohli guys?? He should be ranked #1 by the end of this series i guess....
 
Lol VVS calls this Aussie attack mediocre. Must have forgotten that India have lost the series lol
 
#GreenRoars said:
Yep said the same thing if India want to win, they should chase. But tbh if India want to win, Kohli shoud bat till the end. Or at least hit 150-170 with SR of 100+
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Don't think these two can stay for long. No batting after these two. Won't be surprised if our middle order throws this match away.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Well honestly, it's upto you to see a positive.

The only positives I saw for India in the whole series was that Rohit and Kohli showed that they had the ability to hit big innings everywhere.

Dhawan also showed he had some ability.

Beyond that it was always just a case of Australia outbatting India comprehensively in all games.

But if that makes you feel positive, sure go ahead :)
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Exactly, this is very much the positive I was talking about. However, it was accompanied with a realization that all our 3 debutants were rubbiish and they don't belong to international arena.
 
street cricketer said:
Don't think these two can stay for long. No batting after these two. Won't be surprised if our middle order throws this match away.
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VVS and Mark Taylor reporting that Rahana will only bat if he absolutely needs to. If a wicket falls now, India's chance of winning is vrtually nil.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Not really.

As I said, it was one bad decision in the whole series that went Australia's way.

The next day it went India's way when Rohit got to score his century.

It evens out in the end.

There are two conclusions.

1. India can only win when "Every decision goes for them, and without that they can't do a thing."

OR

2. Indian bowlers aren't good enough to get the batsmen out anyways, and would have lost even at 28-3.

I think 2nd is more likely.
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More crucial than either was Maxwell being not given when he nicked Brainder Sran behind.
 
This Australia bowling attack is so mediocre, has been throughout the series.
 
SunTzu said:
VVS and Mark Taylor reporting that Rahana will only bat if he absolutely needs to. If a wicket falls now, India's chance of winning is vrtually nil.
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It's already above 90%.

They need only 6.4 on a belter and even without Rahane, they have 7 players who can bat at least decently, and on a pitch like this with required run-rate so low they can manage it.
 
Australia lost out on scoring 370-380 when they sent in Mitch Marsh at 3, as a Maxwell or even Smith himself could've provided that accelaration a lot earlier.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
It's already above 90%.

They need only 6.4 on a belter and even without Rahane, they have 7 players who can bat at least decently, and on a pitch like this with required run-rate so low they can manage it.
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Dhoni is the only established bat and he has not fired as he has in the past. And the rest are newbies. Game is still in the balance.
 
Kohli hit a 103 meter six he must really hate Faulkner wonder if he would give his wicket away to him today.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
You are supposed to win it to feel good and to help the team boost morale.

You aren't supposed to win it for the whiners and neighbors across the border, and what their educated minds think :)
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This is true but the constant reminders by certain PPers about thw paucity of fast bowling talent in India is disheartening :(. Winning or losing is secondary according to some posters . Its much more important to have bowlers with fluent actions :sami
 
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