Australia v England | 2nd Ashes Test | Adelaide | Day 2

[Justcrazy]

 

[Justcrazy]

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Declaration !!!

 

[Justcrazy]

poms get respite here

 

[Red Devil]

Declared

 

[Pantani]

Australia should have batted on.

 

[Bilal7]

Good decision in my opinion. Enough time today to pick up atleast one wicket and get used to the pitch and then come out tomorrow with set plans.

 

[Random Aussie]

Nice work lads, scored fast, demoralised them now we have 20 overs to break their ****ing arms

:

 

[Justcrazy]

Johnson has the ball in his hands .......

 

[Justcrazy]

Early wickets here will put Poms under huge pressure

 

[Justcrazy]

Aussies can afford to go on all out attack here

 

[Justcrazy]

No Ball !!!

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Some serious pace by Johnson..95 mph!

Whole over 92+ ..

 

[Convict]

Always great to see some pace

 

[mmkextreme_1]

he's loosing pace now according to the commentator..."91.5 mph" lol

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Cook beaten for pace there...gone for 3! Aus on top!

 

[Buffet]

Johnsonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Get 2 more today.

 

[mastermind_quad]

WoW what a delivery ....MJ ...

 

[Anfield]

With Cook Gone and no Trott who's going to play the long innings now?

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Johnson hasn't bowled a ball under 91 mph in this current spell, that is some effort by him

 

[Robert]

Just woke up.

Oh gawd, I can see us 0-3 down after Perth.

 

[Red Devil]

152 kph

 

[Bilal7]

England look clueless against Johnson. Aussies will probably go 2:0 up after this.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

damn Johnsons opening spell..everything is above 91 mph

This is what true pace can do..takes the pitch totally out of the equation

 

[Buffet]

152 kph

Only bowler in world to have the capacity to bowl at 150+ consistently. Wicket was due to sheer pace.

 

[Convict]

I wouldn't get too carried away. Things will be a lot easier to bat once they see off Johnson and Harris

 

[Bilal7]

I wouldn't get too carried away. Things will be a lot easier to bat if they see off Johnson and Harris

Fixed. I expect one more wicket to fall today.

 

[Ims1]

MJ was hostile . 150 kmph was being regularly crossed . 1 more wicket today would make it perfect for hosts .

 

[Pantani]

This tuk-tuk won't get England anywhere. They need to score runs, 1.2 an over is unacceptable on a pitch like this and allows Clarke to pack in as many catching fielders as he wants.

 

[Convict]

Fixed. I expect one more wicket to fall today.

Garry seems to be all over Carberry

 

[Buffet]

This tuk-tuk won't get England anywhere. They need to score runs, 1.2 an over is unacceptable on a pitch like this and allows Clarke to pack in as many catching fielders as he wants.

Clarke is going to keep a packed field even if they play shots. So many runs to play with. There is no rational in not keeping all those catching fielders right now.

 

[Pantani]

Some positivity at least lowers the pressure on the England batsmen though.

 

[Ims1]

Flat pitch though very dry for day 2 . Can Eng save this one ?

 

[Ims1]

The delivery that castled Cook ,did it keep a bit low ?

 

[James]

There's nothing in this pitch. Apart from the very rare magic ball like Monty's or Johnno's, you only get yourself out in your head. So we can save the game, we just need to withstand the pressure and bat.

 

[James]

Bell?

I don't know many teams who glue their most talented player to the number 5 spot. Then again he averages zillions there, so why move him.

 

[Buffet]

There's nothing in this pitch. Apart from the very rare magic ball like Monty's or Johnno's, you only get yourself out in your head. So we can save the game, we just need to withstand the pressure and bat.

Wicket doesn't have anything at all but still, it will take some effort to bat very long in absence of Trott and Cook.

 

[Ims1]

Johnson to Root, no run, ouch! Root takes one on the body at 148kph! Banged in short and whether Root lost sight of the ball or just got out of position or what, he just took it right on the chest. Absolutely thudded into what you'd presume must be some heavy padding

 

[Robert]

I think that the ENG team is in transition here.

Swann and Jimmy don't look world-class any more, we have no settled opening partnership and a couple of our top seven can't buy a run at present.

We're going to lose the Ashes.

 

[James]

The last tour of Australia was this team's collective peak - physically, mentally, and spiritually. And, unfortunately, those two months of glory are all we have to compare with this current effort. So it looks even worse than it is - which is pretty bad. Let's just hope that we can come out fighting tomorrow and ensure things don't turn absolutely dismal.

 

[Luton Bad Boy]

I think that the ENG team is in transition here.

Swann and Jimmy don't look world-class any more, we have no settled opening partnership and a couple of our top seven can't buy a run at present.

We're going to lose the Ashes.

Too early to say in my opinion...

England are just experiencing a more confident and united Australian team....Thank a certain Darren Lehmann

I would not write off England's chance's yet, as at best they need to win one out of the next two test matches...provided they draw this match in Adelaide

 

[Robert]

Too early to say in my opinion...

England are just experiencing a more confident and united Australian team....Thank a certain Darren Lehmann

I would not write off England's chance's yet, as at best they need to win one out of the next two test matches...provided they draw this match in Adelaide

ENG will lose at Perth. If they get a draw here it will mean winning the last two matches to retain the Ashes which I think is beyond this bowling attack as only Broad seems to have any venom now.

I can see them winning at Sydney so 1-2 to AUS seems reasonable now.

 

[Executioner]

I take my words back.

Harris can bat

 

[Luton Bad Boy]

ENG will lose at Perth. If they get a draw here it will mean winning the last two matches to retain the Ashes which I think is beyond this bowling attack as only Broad seems to have any venom now.

I can see them winning at Sydney so 1-2 to AUS seems reasonable now.

Why is Perth a given victory to Australia??

I can see a KP double hundred coming up and England to salvage a draw from this test match...which will mean one win from the next three test matches to retain the Ashes

 

[Robert]

Why is Perth a given victory to Australia??

ENG don't see any real fliers like that in domestic cricket. Sloop and Rhino will rule and ENG will have nobody to counter them.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Good day for Australia, England batsmen just need to dig in here because once your set its very difficult to dislodge a batsmen here.

Very impressed with MJ in this match and in brisbane, never really been a fan of his bowling but hes bowled with good pace and control and even on this surface hes caused a few problems.

Australia will essentially i guess look to just chip away with wickets and try and prey on englands lack of confidence.

One or two england batsmen need to stand up here and score big hundreds tomorrow.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

playing 2 spinners in Australia was nothing short of suicidal. Foreign spinners have usually struggled with the odd exception. Swann was going at over 4 an over. Just going through the motions. And Broad is simply not getting enough support from any of the other bowlers. England have no option but to go with Finn. If he gets it right, he can be devastating

 

[Convict]

I think that the ENG team is in transition here.

Swann and Jimmy don't look world-class any more, we have no settled opening partnership and a couple of our top seven can't buy a run at present.

We're going to lose the Ashes.

I did have my suspicions about Swann and Anderson going into this series. Though I think they'll do better in Melbourne and Sydney.

I went down to WA vs QLD last weekend and spoke to some of the ground staff on the boundary and was told gleefull stories about how bouncy the wicket was going to be.

For the last 5-6 years the WACA staff have tried to restore the wicket to its glory days of the 90s and hopefully this year they will be able. Certainly unlike previous years CA won't tell them to make the wicket flatter.

England can still win there. I don't rate any of our batsmen save for Warner and Rogers scoring at the WACA. But we'd have to be the record due to our great record there against England (one loss- during WSC) and Johnson and Harris hopefully ready to exploit it.

Winning here at Adelaide would be massive though and we've still got a chance. It's never easy being 500 behind.

 

[Savak]

Australia has batted better, that has been the difference. Its allowed their bowlers to attack fearlessly and mercilessly.

 

[Aman]

England are toast, I can't see them fighting back to save the Ashes.

 

[Convict]

England are toast, I can't see them fighting back to save the Ashes.

The media reports and stuff coming out re Flower asking for peace and Giles Clarke 'jokingly' telling the Lord Mayor of Brisbane that he would consider asking Brisbane to be removed from future tours did sound like the team was rattled.

The media boycott was even worse. England didn't need to adopt a siege mentality. They needed to relax and remember that they won the last three series including one three months ago 3-0.

Poor judgement by the support staff and Flower there imo

 

[nish_mate]

Expected a bit more bottle from England- in the famous words of Bresnan "if they dont like it there, they can eff off back home".....

 

[Gunther]

The media reports and stuff coming out re Flower asking for peace and Giles Clarke 'jokingly' telling the Lord Mayor of Brisbane that he would consider asking Brisbane to be removed from future tours did sound like the team was rattled.

The media boycott was even worse. England didn't need to adopt a siege mentality. They needed to relax and remember that they won the last three series including one three months ago 3-0.

Poor judgement by the support staff and Flower there imo

It would be laughable to blame Flower/staff for that. Prior, Cook, Anderson, Root, Trott have been dismal since the Lords test. There has been a feeling that the team is in decline and the Aussies choking in the fourth test largely helped to disguise this fact. Swann who has always been so dependable is also struggling and so England have no where to hide.

 

[Energetic]

lol This Ben Stokes guy is another player not born in England.

 

[leatherface58]

Stokes has a bowling action similar to Finn.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

lol This Ben Stokes guy is another player not born in England.

At least the rest of the commonwealth's getting a look in

 

[Ims1]

Stokes bowled well & could be a useful bowling option at 7 .

 

[Ims1]

odds tell the story of match :
Aus 1/85
Draw 2/26
Eng 42/00

 

[Amjid Javed]

I think it was good to see Carberry take on Lyon early on in his inns, the reason being is that Lyon is essentially going to be there to hold one end up while other bowlers are rotated. So if england can attack lyon and make Clarke use his seamers more we may see signs of fatigue from Aussie bowlers if they have to bowl any substantial number of overs.

Ian bell and KP are two batsmen capable of scoring big so Aussies should target these two when they come out to bat, the major problem for england is the likes of Root, Carberry, Stokes, Prior are going to have to contribute heavily here if england are to get around 400... Day of this test is hugely pivitiol to the match but could also go along way to dictating how rest of the series pans out, England need some players to make a cricketing stand tomorrow.

 

[James]

The Aussie fans are being humble IMO. My view is that partly because their team is high on confidence and also because of the home conditions, Australia is looking clearly the better side at the moment. I share Robert's suspicions.

 

[Gunther]

The end is nigh for this England team. They will still be a decent team but as Jarrod Kimber on cricinfo points out, they have lost that ruthlessness and I suspect they might have lost it forever.

Andy Flower looks like moving on after this series, Cook's batting is a disaster, Prior wouldn't make it to the Bangladesh team on current form and Broad is the only one looking like an international bowler. I do not want to make any judgement on Ashley Giles but I do fear for England in the near future.

 

[Robert]

The end is nigh for this England team. They will still be a decent team but as Jarrod Kimber on cricinfo points out, they have lost that ruthlessness and I suspect they might have lost it forever.

Andy Flower looks like moving on after this series, Cook's batting is a disaster, Prior wouldn't make it to the Bangladesh team on current form and Broad is the only one looking like an international bowler. I do not want to make any judgement on Ashley Giles but I do fear for England in the near future.

I've no doubt that Chef will start to score heavily again at some point. Otherwise there are strong signs that they are on the way down.

KP and Bell should have a couple of years left. After that, it's time to start building the new side around Chef, Broad, Finn and Root.

 

[Gunther]

I've no doubt that Chef will start to score heavily again at some point. Otherwise there are strong signs that they are on the way down.

KP and Bell should have a couple of years left. After that, it's time to start building the new side around Chef, Broad, Finn and Root.

Couple of years for KP may be, but I would like to see Bell play for another 6-7 years. I always envy how the SL, Indian players go on to play till their later thirties and Bell with his professionalism and new found sense of belonging at the top should be able to match that.

I am not still sold on Finn. I would like to see someone like Topley or one of the Overton brothers fast tracked into the squad to offer more options. Anderson should have another couple of years in him too but he could with some rest .

 

[Executioner]

The end is nigh for this England team. They will still be a decent team but as Jarrod Kimber on cricinfo points out, they have lost that ruthlessness and I suspect they might have lost it forever.

Andy Flower looks like moving on after this series, Cook's batting is a disaster, Prior wouldn't make it to the Bangladesh team on current form and Broad is the only one looking like an international bowler. I do not want to make any judgement on Ashley Giles but I do fear for England in the near future.

Are you suggesting he is better than Anamul Haq?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/380354.html

 

[OZGOD]

So what's happened on Day 2? Had to go to bed early as had an early meeting this morning. So Pup, Haddo and Harris went medieval on them?

 

[nish_mate]

So what's happened on Day 2? Had to go to bed early as had an early meeting this morning. So Pup, Haddo and Harris went medieval on them?

Well the empire is crumbling it seems....and there were talks about building a dynasty...

 

[Gunther]

So what's happened on Day 2? Had to go to bed early as had an early meeting this morning. So Pup, Haddo and Harris went medieval on them?

Haddin is such a strange case. He looks so rubbish both with the bat and the gloves against other teams but is always performing in the Ashes.

 

[Gunther]

Well the empire is crumbling it seems....and there were talks about building a dynasty...

Do you talk like that even in your real life ?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Cook's form has been terrible over the last 1 year or so. Averages 32.45 in his last 24 innings. In the last 2 and a half years, he has scored heavily in India and Sri Lanka. Struggled against Pak in UAE, against SA at home and is now struggling against Australia. Averages 40 or so in this period which is decent but against top quality bowling attacks, he hasn't been scoring runs.

 

[nish_mate]

Do you talk like that even in your real life ?

Why you want to learn a bit- just then follow your fellow fans and Robert & James- or even worse Malakian...

Oh Mark Cooper sometime chirps a bit too....

Stop being sensitive wussies...

 

[ads101]

Haddin is such a strange case. He looks so rubbish both with the bat and the gloves against other teams but is always performing in the Ashes.

Aussies are harsh on Haddin. They just have their standards so high because of Gilchrist. Averaging 35 (he averages 36 now) and can wicketkeep sufficiently is an above average wicketkeeper in today's world. Most teams will take that. Sure he's not a great, but he's not a rubbish player.

Better his specialist country he performs is England rather than anyone else given he's an aussie anyway.

 

[OZGOD]

Fixed. I expect one more wicket to fall today.

One wicket did...they just didn't review lol. Would be funny if Carbs got a ton tomorrow

 

[ads101]

Aussies have an advantage here. Not only have they taken the win out of the equation so can attack without fear, their bowling line up will better suit this pitch. On average these guys bowl faster and bowl more hostile than the English which will take the pitch more out of the equation. Guys like Anderson and the spinners rely on utilizing the pitch conditions more (and they do this well). Why Broad's probably done the best out of all of them.

Think it was a mistake England picking two spinners. As history as shown time and time again, away spinners suffer in Australia. At least with pace on a bad pitch, you've still got pace. When the pitch isn't doing much and you're a spinner, you'll be hit.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Aussies have an advantage here. Not only have they taken the win out of the equation so can attack without fear, their bowling line up will better suit this pitch. On average these guys bowl faster and bowl more hostile than the English which will take the pitch more out of the equation. Guys like Anderson and the spinners rely on utilizing the pitch conditions more (and they do this well). Why Broad's probably done the best out of all of them.

Think it was a mistake England picking two spinners. As history as shown time and time again, away spinners suffer in Australia. At least with pace on a bad pitch, you've still got pace. When the pitch isn't doing much and you're a spinner, you'll be hit.

Mistake is probably an understatement. Dropped the ashes with that decision. England have found the pace of the Aussies too hot to handle. Finn's radar hasn't been the best but atleast he could have kept the Aus batsmen on their toes. Clarke apart, this batting lineup is nothing special.

 

[OZGOD]

I didn't see any of the day's play other than highlights I'm watching now, looks like Pup and Haddo didn't have many problems. I would expect England to bat all day tomorrow and try to get at least 400 and use up some time. Big ask for Root and Co though. But Bell and Kevinder will be the key.

 

[James]

I wouldn't be surprised if we got rolled for 250 tbh.

 

[khalil1986]

Morning session will be crucial, If Australia get a wicket or two in first session than I just can't see England scoring more than 400, Australia will go out and blaze another 150 odd giving a target of 300+ for England and this pitch will get difficult to play on with uneven bounce I'm sure.

 

[Convict]

I wouldn't be surprised if we got rolled for 250 tbh.

I would be.

 

[ads101]

I would be.

Me too. Pitch is pretty flat, don't think it'll start becoming dangerous in the coming days. England have essentially two chances to put up a decent innings to draw it.

 

[style_guru]

So far it's the Aussies who are ahead in the match. The pitch is uneven, and the aussie bowlers are attacking the stumps. Tough times for England ahead.

 

[Convict]

The pitch is dead and flat and based on the shield matches is still going to play well on days four and five.

England's main problem so far in their innings has being mental and having survived that session with only one down they can recover and get into the correct mind set.

First half hour today is critical.