Australia v England | 5th Test | Day 3 | 5th Jan 2014

[Convict]

So you seriously consider the Ashes to be the pinnacle of cricket?.. The series as a whole is heavily over rated to the point where some fans consider a Ashes series win greater than a WC win.

Australians and Englishmen don't rate limited overs cricket.

As a Kiwi what does it mean to you?

Reeks of wanting to have big series like the big boys.

 

[OZGOD]

Can Bambi and the Orc bat for 2 days to save the Test?

 

[Aman]

Australians and Englishmen don't rate limited overs cricket.

As a Kiwi what does it mean to you?

Reeks of wanting to have big series like the big boys.

What other big series are there? Only 3 teams play each other in 4 match series. Hard to get much of a rivalry going with 2 match series.

 

[trogger]

Johnson needs all 3 to be the 8th man(alderman did it twice) to take 40 in a test series.

 

[Convict]

What other big series are there? Only 3 teams play each other in 4 match series. Hard to get much of a rivalry going with 2 match series.

Then organise more tests. Australia and England organise 5 test series between each other.

 

[Aman]

Then organise more tests. Australia and England organise 5 test series between each other.

Yeah like India, Australia or England would ever give NZ 5

The other teams can't afford to play 5 match series against other financially weaker teams either, 5 is too many anyway but 3 would be good for a start.

 

[OZGOD]

The Orc is going bezerko 20 runs off the Lyon over

 

[OZGOD]

Yeah like India, Australia or England would ever give NZ 5

The other teams can't afford to play 5 match series against other weaker teams either, 5 is too many anyway but 3 would be good for a start.

I reckon you should poach some more Islanders and have them play cricket for a change. That would improve your performance and thus your chances at the 4+ series

 

[Aman]

I reckon you should poach some more Islanders and have them play cricket for a change. That would improve your performance and thus your chances at the 4+ series

Nah they'd probably crush you and bring your board to financial ruin

We'll let you go on your way.

 

[trogger]

Yeah like India, Australia or England would ever give NZ 5

The other teams can't afford to play 5 match series against other financially weaker teams either, 5 is too many anyway but 3 would be good for a start.

So the solution is go on a cricket forum and tell everybody day after day that you don't rate the ashes.

Very productive.

 

[Convict]

I reckon you should poach some more Islanders and have them play cricket for a change. That would improve your performance and thus your chances at the 4+ series

Nah. They should just take back Stokes and they can replace England in the Ashes

 

[Aman]

So the solution is go on a cricket forum and tell everybody day after day that you don't rate the ashes.

Very productive.

It's irritating to see a team like England who is performing like this get 5 Tests, while other teams who would shown some fight would have at most gotten 2 or 3.

I think the purpose of forum is beyond your comprehension, it's easy when it's bright in aussie world but cricket exists outside 3 countries just an fyi.

 

[OZGOD]

Nah they'd probably crush you and bring your board to financial ruin

We'll let you go on your way.

Unfortunately cricket is a non contact sport

 

[OZGOD]

Nah. They should just take back Stokes and they can replace England in the Ashes

They could have Stokes open the batting and bowling for them. And keep wicket too! :umarakmal

 

[Justcrazy]

127 / 7

 

[Aman]

They could have Stokes open the batting and bowling for them. And keep wicket too! :umarakmal

Stokes wouldn't make the NZ team, I'll stand by that statement

 

[Justcrazy]

Partnership 37 runs

 

[Convict]

New Zealand can't even beat Australia, England, South Africa at home and they want 5 test series.

Cute

 

[OZGOD]

On another note it's great to see so much support for Jane McGrath Day, so many in pink out there. We should thank England for taking the match to Day 3 at least. They mentioned at tea that they had raised $460k for the McGrath foundation to help sufferers of breast cancer. That's probably more than the entire annual budget of Enzed Cricket!

 

[Aman]

New Zealand can't even beat Australia, England, South Africa at home and they want 5 test series.

Cute

Yeah, where did I exactly ask for 5? It would be pretty difficult playing worse than the English anyway. I think the C3 fear what the other teams can do if given a level playing field.

FYI we beat you in Aus.

 

[OZGOD]

The Orc has fallen

Stokes after a cowlashing innings of 22

 

[Convict]

Yeah, where did I exactly ask for 5? It would be pretty difficult playing worse than the English anyway. I think the C3 fear what the other teams can do if given a level playing field.

FYI we beat you in Aus.

))))

Bellerive is the only test you'd have a decent chance of winning

 

[Aman]

Nice of you to ignore the rest of the post. Did I strike a nerve?

 

[trogger]

It's irritating to see a team like England who is performing like this get 5 Tests, while other teams who would shown some fight would have at most gotten 2 or 3.

I think the purpose of forum is beyond your comprehension, it's easy when it's bright in aussie world but cricket exists outside 3 countries just an fyi.

England have beaten us 4 times in the last 9 years.

kiwis last beat us 25 years ago.

If there was a thread about nz needing more test cricket i wouldn't go on it and start saying aren't we great we won the ashes would i?

I know what forum is for, and i know obvious trolling when i see it.

 

[Convict]

Nice of you to ignore the rest of the post. Did I strike a nerve?

Nope. We've given you guys a three test series including Boxing Day and Sydney next time you tour (2015/16).

Don't get stage fright

 

[mastermind_quad]

Another brilliant performance by Australia...

Cook in horrible form today's wicket proves it. Very unCook type poking.

 

[Aman]

England have beaten us 4 times in the last 9 years.

kiwis last beat us 25 years ago.

If there was a thread about nz needing more test cricket i wouldn't go on it and start saying aren't we great we won the ashes would i?

I know what forum is for, and i know obvious trolling when i see it.

What do you expect? We've barely played any quality cricket, it's not a short term solution, teams will get canned. But in the long haul it will be worth it, the gap between the top teams and lower ranked teams will close. Unless you think things are fine as they are?

 

[ali bubba]

It's irritating to see a team like England who is performing like this get 5 Tests, while other teams who would shown some fight would have at most gotten 2 or 3.

I think the purpose of forum is beyond your comprehension, it's easy when it's bright in aussie world but cricket exists outside 3 countries just an fyi.

Bangladesh would have shown more fight then what this England team have shown. Don't want 4 or 5 test series against them though.

 

[Justcrazy]

 

[Aman]

Nope. We've given you guys a three test series including Boxing Day and Sydney next time you tour (2015/16).

Don't get stage fright

Good luck carting your pace battery out there

 

[Justcrazy]

more

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 291 runs with 2 wickets remaining

 

[Aman]

Bangladesh would have shown more fight then what this England team have shown. Don't want 4 or 5 test series against them though.

Difference is Bangladesh wouldn't get 5,4,3,2 or 1 Test against Australia in Australia.

 

[Justcrazy]

Broad looking good with bat after long time.

 

[OZGOD]

What do you expect? We've barely played any quality cricket, it's not a short term solution teams we'll get canned. But in the long haul it will be worth it as the gap between the top teams and lower ranked teams closes. Unless you think things are fine as they are?

I reckon you need to spread your sports funding grassroots resources a bit more evenly. At the moment it's all rugby and nothing else. Twenty years ago you had a decent cricket team. With professionalism everyone wants to play rugby and nobody wants to play any other sport. Now rugby's the only thing you're really good at. Not counting league since only 3 countries really play it. Do a bit more to promote grassroots cricket. Push to have a team included in the Shield. Have more players come to OZ to play grade, district and hopefully Shield.

 

[OZGOD]

Broad

 

[Justcrazy]

Broad cameo over

 

[OZGOD]

I had planned to get tickets to days 4 and 5 of the SCG test before flying back to Boston lol

Sucks to be me

 

[Justcrazy]

 

[Justcrazy]

All over for Poms

 

[Justcrazy]

Australia won by 281 runs

 

[Justcrazy]

Congratulations Australia for winning 5 - 0

 

[OZGOD]

Sucks even more to be Vaughan though having to sit with Warne in the active commentary box through this 5-0 whitewash celebration lol

 

[mastermind_quad]

Conghrats Team Australia...

5-0

Congrats OZGOD,RA,Convict and all the Aussie fans here...

 

[Convict]

Yeah stand up if you're five nil up!

 

[Aman]

I reckon you need to spread your sports funding grassroots resources a bit more evenly. At the moment it's all rugby and nothing else. Twenty years ago you had a decent cricket team. With professionalism everyone wants to play rugby and nobody wants to play any other sport. Now rugby's the only thing you're really good at. Not counting league since only 3 countries really play it. Do a bit more to promote grassroots cricket. Push to have a team included in the Shield. Have more players come to OZ to play grade, district and hopefully Shield.

You make it sound as though 2 sports can work in a country of 4m, it can't. We have to make do with what we have, I can't help but feel we could be a good side if our players got some international experience abroad.

 

[vandokkum]

lol at bothams prediction

 

[Gilly]

Yeah, where did I exactly ask for 5? It would be pretty difficult playing worse than the English anyway. I think the C3 fear what the other teams can do if given a level playing field.

FYI we beat you in Aus.

If NZ were given a level playing field they would only lose more matches and lose more money.

You don't get it Aman, NZ are not good enough to play a 5 match series against any of the top four teams. It would be cruel to subject them to that type of punishment.

 

[Anfield]

Sucks even more to be Vaughan though having to sit with Warne in the active commentary box through this 5-0 whitewash celebration lol

throughout the series not just right now lol Vaughan before the tour probably thought he would diss out some to warney throughout the tour, but his team let him down big time.

 

[Aman]

If NZ were given a level playing field they would only lose more matches and lose more money.

You don't get it Aman, NZ are not good enough to play a 5 match series against any of the top four teams. It would be cruel to subject them to that type of punishment.

So let them waste away in the middle tiers of a 8 team competition? You're practically ensuring 3 of the top 4 positions will always held up the same 3 teams. I think you don't understand this.

How would NZ lose money from playing with Australia, England or India?...

 

[Gilly]

What do you expect? We've barely played any quality cricket, it's not a short term solution, teams will get canned. But in the long haul it will be worth it, the gap between the top teams and lower ranked teams close. Unless you think things are fine as they are?

You will only play more quality cricket if you improve you domestic cricket, sort that out before you start putting the onus on other countries to give you more cricket.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

What a series this has been! Best Ashes since 06/07. Darren Lehmann should be given some credit of course for the turnaround in Aussie fortunes.

 

[P4K1 #1]

Australia pwned England!! Congrats to all Aussie fans 5-0 !!

 

[Aman]

You will only play more quality cricket if you improve you domestic cricket, sort that out before you start putting the onus on other countries to give you more cricket.

Even if we find the cricketers, without the experience, I doubt they'll survive.

 

[Gilly]

So let them waste away in the middle tiers of a 8 team competition? You're ensuring 3 of the top 4 positions will always held up the same 3 teams. I think you don't understand this.

How would NZ lose money from playing with Australia, England or India?...

It NZ that is letting themselves waste away, its not CA, ECB or BCCI job to get more people playing cricket in NZ. Its not their job to promote domestic cricket in NZ. If NZ want to change things then its up to them to get more interest in cricket in its own country and put more effort into grassroot cricket. Don't whine about other countries that have done the hard yards.

NZ will lose money playing in a 5 test series because they don't have the supporters to fill the stands for 5 test series. Australia would lose money if they hosted a five test series against NZ because the public would not come ot the matches.

 

[Aman]

It NZ that is letting themselves waste away, its not CA, ECB or BCCI job to get more people playing cricket in NZ. Its not their job to promote domestic cricket in NZ. If NZ want to change things then its up to them to get more interest in cricket in its own country and put more effort into grassroot cricket. Don't whine about other countries that have done the hard yards.

NZ will lose money playing in a 5 test series because they don't have the supporters to fill the stands for 5 test series. Australia would lose money if they hosted a five test series against NZ because the public would not come ot the matches.

I never asked for a 4 or 5 match series...

 

[Gilly]

I never asked for a 4 or 5 match series...

What do you want, do you want Australia to drop a couple of ashes matches that make huge amounts of money and play more against NZ that are lucky to break even.

 

[trogger]

It's going to be hard to explain the last 7 years of ashes to people in years to come.

Two 5-0 whitewashes(2 of the 3 in the entire history of the ashes) yet in the middle the team that lost both 5-0 series have been the team on top and won 3 of their own.

And thats why people saying it's predictable don't make sense, nobody saw this coming and nobody saw england winning them back in 09 after they got swept last time.

Nobody knows what will happen in 2015 either.

 

[trogger]

I never asked for a 4 or 5 match series...

kiwis nearly always play 3 tests in aus, they are playing 3 vs aus next time they tour.

One stinking series they got 2 tests , get over it.

 

[Aman]

What do you want, do you want Australia to drop a couple of ashes matches that make huge amounts of money and play more against NZ that are lucky to break even.

A fair ground for all teams where the odds aren't stacked in the favor of the wealthy.

That means ICC dictating scheduling and keeping the cartel in check.

 

[Anfield]

It's not about being predictable.. neutrals want to see close contest, hard fought battles, no easy victories. England didn't put up a much fight whole tour and from neutrals' perspective.. that's pretty boring!

 

[OZGOD]

Ryano is man of the match

 

[Anuj25]

England were bullied and butchered in this Ashes.

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[trogger]

It's not about being predictable.. neutrals want to see close contest, hard fought battles, no easy victories. England didn't put up a much fight whole tour and from neutrals' perspective.. that's pretty boring!

Well thats fine to mention it and then leave it at that, when a poster goes onto every ashes thread every day to make constant mention of how boring they find the ashes then it's clearly out of hand.

 

[Anfield]

Nz needs to start somewhere. I agree with you Aman, but got to win against big teams to earn respect and start from winning at home. Your team doesn't win against top teams even at home. When was the last time you won against Aus, Eng, Saf or even against India and Pak at home?

 

[OZGOD]

Stupid question from Tubby asking Ryano if he's going to play the ODIs when he hasn't been named in the squad lol

 

[OZGOD]

It's not about being predictable.. neutrals want to see close contest, hard fought battles, no easy victories. England didn't put up a much fight whole tour and from neutrals' perspective.. that's pretty boring!

That's England's fault, not Australia or the Ashes though. We can only play the way we have played. Just as it was our fault back in 2010.

 

[Aman]

kiwis nearly always play 3 tests in aus, they are playing 3 vs aus next time they tour.

One stinking series they got 2 tests , get over it.

We haven't played a 3 match series in Australia since 2001/02.

 

[Gilly]

A fair ground for all teams where the odds aren't stacked in the favor of the wealthy.

That means ICC dictating scheduling and keeping the cartel in check.

Its these cartels that provide the money for the ICC to give to teams like NZ.

If the ICC kept the cartel in check then there would be no money for NZ which would mean they would play even less test matches.

 

[Aman]

Nz needs to start somewhere. I agree with you Aman, but got to win against big teams to earn respect and start from winning at home. Your team doesn't win against top teams even at home. When was the last time you won against Aus, Eng, Saf or even against India and Pak at home?

We have been poor at home, we should have finished England last year.

We haven't played Pakistan in quite a while, SA are too good there is no chance of us beating them home or away. As for India, well, we'll find out shortly.

 

[Haripotter]

Congratulations OZ

 

[Aman]

Its these cartels that provide the money for the ICC to give to teams like NZ.

If the ICC kept the cartel in check then there would be no money for NZ which would mean they would play even less test matches.

All short term, in the long term such dealings are not good for the games health. You can have a Ind/Eng/Aus series for so long before fans tire of the constant matches and profits decline. Who will you have to fall on then? SA? then what? Back to India or England? This short sighted thinking will get cricket no where.

 

[Gilly]

Dubai, Feb 1: International Cricket Council (ICC) has allocated $1.8 million to New Zealand in a bid to "develop stronger and more competitive international cricket". ICC Board which met here on Thursday (January 31) announced its decision to grant the fund to New Zealand Cricket (NZC) in ICC's Targeted Assistance and Performance Programme. There were several other decisions taken which also included the ICC recognising the importance of domestic Twenty20 leagues.

Read more at: http://www.thatscricket.com/news/20...d-1-8-million-new-zealand-cricket-065984.html

Where do you think this money comes from Aman, did you think the ICC ran a couple of chook raffles, start being a bit more educated about what is happening in cricket or stop making absurd statements. NZ are one of the teams to benifit from cricket played between Aus, Ind and Eng.

 

[Aman]

Where do you think this money comes from Aman, did you think the ICC ran a couple of chook raffles, start being a bit more educated about what is happening in cricket or stop making absurd statements. NZ are one of the teams to benifit from cricket played between Aus, Ind and Eng.

Mate, if we find the players.. What good is a few games against England in England or India do for them? We'd get smashed 0-2 and go home, the poms and aussies have a laugh. Rinse and repeat.

You know how 2 match series go, you can't take much away from them.

 

[ali bubba]

It's not about being predictable.. neutrals want to see close contest, hard fought battles, no easy victories. England didn't put up a much fight whole tour and from neutrals' perspective.. that's pretty boring!

We don't care about neutrals. You don't have to watch.

 

[Gilly]

All short term, in the long term such dealings are not good for the games health. You can have a Ind/Eng/Aus series for so long before fans tire of the constant matches and profits decline. Who will you have to fall on then? SA? then what? Back to India or England? This short sighted thinking will get cricket no where.

Well the ashes has been played for over a hundred years and the past test which was a dead rubber had more spectators on the first day than NZ could muster for an entire test.

 

[vandokkum]

If nz lose series against India at home , they really don't deserve a 4 test series.

 

[Aman]

Well the ashes has been played for over a hundred years and the past test which was a dead rubber had more spectators on the first day than NZ could muster for an entire test.

Look at the numbers the AB's draw in SA and England

 

[Aman]

If nz lose series against India at home , they really don't deserve a 4 test series.

I never asked for 4... 4 is too many for us, 3 is the most we should be getting at this stage.

 

[Gilly]

Mate, if we find the players.. What good is a few games against England in England or India do for them? You know how 2 match series go, you can't take much away from them.

Not our problem, its NZ's problem. We look after our own cricket and NZ have to look after their own cricket, Aus cricket is about Aus cricket we try to get the best team we can out onto the field, its up to NZ to do the same in NZ. NZ have to find ways of becoming a higher quality team not just sit on their hands and expect other countries to do it for them.