Australia v New Zealand | 2nd Test | WACA | Nov 13-17, 2015 | Match Thread

[khalil1986]

According to all reports the WACA will be absolutely rapid, will be fascinating to watch Johnson and co on this rocket.

 

[Bilal7]

Lets go Black Caps!

 

[MarkCooper]

Come on NZ!

 

[khalil1986]

I'm expecting some broken bones for the NZ players if Johnson is on form.

 

[Suleiman]

LOL yeah yeah support NZ for being nice guys, but everyone knows nice guys finish last

'STRAYA to wrap this in 3 days MAX

 

[khalil1986]

Gonna stay up for this hope Austrlaia lose toss and NZ bat, want to see some fierce bowling before I go to bed.

 

[khalil1986]

It's a shame in a couple years they will stop playing at this venue, nothing short of a travesty.

 

[SunTzu]

Boult was very disappointing last test, hopefully he and NZ are more competitive this time around. We already have a boring test series coming up in December.

 

[ChachaCricket]

Australia won't be the same without the WACA. Such a historical ground/pitch, probably the most renowned around the world.

 

[khalil1986]

Australia won't be the same without the WACA. Such a historical ground/pitch, probably the most renowned around the world.

It's all about the money now.

 

[Convict]

According to all reports the WACA will be absolutely rapid, will be fascinating to watch Johnson and co on this rocket.

lol

I hear this every year

 

[khalil1986]

lol

I hear this every year

Hmm hopefully they are right this year.

Either way it will be massive difference to Abu Dhabi

 

[ChachaCricket]

lol

I hear this every year

It was pretty bouncy last time SA and Aus played.

 

[khalil1986]

lol

I hear this every year

Would Australia consider bowling first if they win toss or just the usual bat first?

 

[Belawal2014]

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[Convict]

It was pretty bouncy last time SA and Aus played.

In the ODI?

I guess so?
Seems bouncier in Shield matches to be honest

 

[khalil1986]

Aus choose to bat, slightly disappointing wanted to watch them bowl.

 

[Convict]

Would Australia consider bowling first if they win toss or just the usual bat first?

Fortunately Voges is in the team to slap Smith in the face if he considers bowling first

 

[khalil1986]

Fortunately Voges is in the team to slap Smith in the face if he considers bowling first

Haha fair enough

 

[BigBoy123]

Henry to get a 4 fer...aus to fold under 250

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[ChachaCricket]

In the ODI?

I guess so?
Seems bouncier in Shield matches to be honest

How's the weather? Expect some swing?

 

[Convict]

How's the weather? Expect some swing?

Maybe with the sea breeze

It's going to be hot today

 

[Junaids]

Looks like a slower-than-usual but still bouncy track.

Perhaps a 1-120 lunch, 2-250 tea and 5-360 close track.

 

[Aman]

Boults pace still down...

 

[Aman]

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[Donal Cozzie]

Since when did NZ's pacers turn into 130k trundlers??

Can definitely recall them being much faster than this.

 

[Aman]

Since when did NZ's pacers turn into 130k trundlers??

Can definitely recall them being much faster than this.

Boult is coming back from injury.

Southee has always been around this pace, although he's not 100% fit.

 

[Aman]

Edge not carrying..

 

[dashing_man]

Australia won't be the same without the WACA. Such a historical ground/pitch, probably the most renowned around the world.

its such a shame. Such a historic venue.

 

[dashing_man]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] why on earth is McCleanaghn not playing on this turf has the pace and bounce to trouble the batsman

 

[khalil1986]

lol

I hear this every year

Already a nick not carrying.

Possibly due to them standing too far back in slips?

 

[Aman]

Muting and watching One Piece, the commentary is terrible.

 

[khalil1986]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] why on earth is McCleanaghn not playing on this turf has the pace and bounce to trouble the batsman

What pace? He bowls mid 130's and likes to bang it half way down.

Australia would take him apart.

 

[Aman]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] why on earth is McCleanaghn not playing on this turf has the pace and bounce to trouble the batsman

Henry is far better and quicker.

 

[Aman]

Boult ruining his reputation here, he's much better than this.

Needs to tighten up and bowl it in one channel, the edge will come.

 

[khalil1986]

Warner is looking menacing, just blocks one for nearly four.

 

[dashing_man]

What pace? He bowls mid 130's and likes to bang it half way down.

Australia would take him apart.

bounce comes handy on this turf and you get more pace here

 

[khalil1986]

Boult ruining his reputation here, he's much better than this.

Needs to tighten up and bowl it in one channel, the edge will come.

Even at his best not sure he is suited to Australian conditions.

 

[khalil1986]

bounce comes handy on this turf and you get more pace here

Australia play bounce well and bounce off good length area can trouble the batsman but from what I have seen of McClenghan his stock ball is half way down.

 

[khalil1986]

Henry is far better and quicker.

Is Milne injured?

 

[dashing_man]

Burns won't last long

 

[ChachaCricket]

The bounce is pretty good. NZ just doesn't have the pace or hit the deck bowlers.

It should get faster by day 2.

 

[dashing_man]

better from Southee

 

[Aman]

Is Milne injured?

Haven't personally heard it, but have seen Junaid saying it on here.

 

[dashing_man]

The bounce is pretty good. NZ just doesn't have the pace or hit the deck bowlers.

Let's see how Henry goes, he was good on UAE phattas

 

[Aman]

Burns won't last long

Nah once the ball gets older we'll be chasing leather all day.

These are terrible cricket wickets.

 

[khalil1986]

Haven't personally heard it, but have seen Junaid saying it on here.

Shame really don't think he will ever be consistently fit otherwise could terrorize batters.

 

[dashing_man]

Nah once the ball gets older we'll be chasing leather all day.

These are terrible cricket wickets.

are you joking ? Perth has one of the best cricket wickets. You just have to bowl right to be successful here

 

[Convict]

Nah once the ball gets older we'll be chasing leather all day.

These are terrible cricket wickets.

Why>
This is a good wicket. Rewards good batting and good bowling

 

[dashing_man]

chance gone, Stupid field placement

 

[khalil1986]

Boult leaking runs.

 

[ChachaCricket]

Boult been spraying all over the place. Mate try landing the ball in the same place three times at least.

Should come around the wicket. It's a good line to regain your accuracy for lefties.

 

[khalil1986]

Nah once the ball gets older we'll be chasing leather all day.

These are terrible cricket wickets.

One of the better wickets around actually.

Southee is already troubling the batters.

 

[Aman]

Why>
This is a good wicket. Rewards good batting and good bowling

Prefer wickets where skill is required, not one where natural born traits are more vital (pace and height).

 

[dashing_man]

Boult should learn from Southee and keep bowling in the same channel

 

[Convict]

Prefer wickets where skill is required, not one where natural born traits are more vital (pace and height).

Skill is required though.

 

[dashing_man]

Prefer wickets where skill is required, not one where natural born traits are more vital (pace and height).

so you prefer UAE phattas

 

[ChachaCricket]

Prefer wickets where skill is required, not one where natural born traits are more vital (pace and height).

Southee is 6'4.

 

[dashing_man]

bounce for Henry straight away, need to replace boult with Tim

 

[dashing_man]

Southee is 6'4.

he's trolling. even Oram couldn't get anything out of this wicket

 

[dashing_man]

should have a silly point for burns

 

[Convict]

I've seen Scott bloody Kremerskothen dominate on this wicket.

 

[Aman]

Skill is required though.

By keeping it tight? If the batsmen are sensible they can see that period and score heavily later on against the older ball (Kookaburra's a particularly terrible after the initial overs, they allow batsmen to make merry and offer the bowlers literally nothing after the initial 8-10 overs).

This is the best time to bowl, and if our bowlers aren't getting anything now, they're going to only to get worse from here.

 

[Aman]

Southee is 6'4.

And he's a mid 130's bowler.

 

[ChachaCricket]

And he's a mid 130's bowler.

So is Hazlewood. He bowled much better.

It's down to lack of skill from your bowlers.

 

[khalil1986]

By keeping it tight? If the batsmen are sensible they can see that period and score heavily later on against the older ball (Kookaburra's a particularly terrible after the initial overs, they allow batsmen to make merry and offer the bowlers literally nothing after the initial 8-10 overs).

This is the best time to bowl, and if our bowlers aren't getting anything now, they're going to only to get worse from here.

Going by your logic your batters should score tons of runs too right?

 

[dashing_man]

And he's a mid 130's bowler.

when fidel edwards can get bounce, anyone can get bounce

 

[Aman]

So is Hazlewood. He bowled much better.

3/138.

 

[dashing_man]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] is New Zealand playing this for a win or draw ?

 

[ChachaCricket]

3/138.

Numbers don't show anything. I watched the match. He built all the pressure for Johnson and Starc to cash in.

 

[ChachaCricket]

Has NZ bowled a freaken bouncer yet?

 

[Aman]

Going by your logic your batters should score tons of runs too right?

They should, the Aussies would agree they bowled terribly against us.

Difference is our batsmen were much worse and gave away their wickets.

 

[Aman]

Numbers don't show anything. I watched the match. He built all the pressure for Johnson and Starc to cash in.

Other than a spell in the first innings, he was far from impressive.

 

[dashing_man]

Has NZ bowled a freaken bouncer yet?

they don't have the height

 

[Aman]

Another issue with the Kookburra... they never last... always happens in NZ Tests as well.

NZ Tests are always like this - wickets up front, followed by teams consolidating and building partnerships in the middle before the second new ball usually takes another 1-3 wickets and allows the bowlers to wrap up the tail.

 

[ChachaCricket]

Another issue with the Kookburra... they never last... always happens in NZ Tests as well.

Why don't you guys swap to Dukes? They're much better for your conditions.

 

[Aman]

Why don't you guys swap to Dukes? They're much better for your conditions.

Simon Doull has been banging on about it for years. Hopefully NZC make the change soon.

 

[Anfield]

NZ bowlers have have failed miserably so far in this series.

 

[Gilly]

By keeping it tight? If the batsmen are sensible they can see that period and score heavily later on against the older ball (Kookaburra's a particularly terrible after the initial overs, they allow batsmen to make merry and offer the bowlers literally nothing after the initial 8-10 overs).

This is the best time to bowl, and if our bowlers aren't getting anything now, they're going to only to get worse from here.

Just been looking at the last two years of matches in Australia Aman and would like you to clarify if you are talking about NZ bowling only because if you mean all matches in Australia then the actual figures don't support what you are claiming. Can you provide some sort of evidence because in most matches the Kookaburra ball provides something for the bowlers during the 80 overs and I'm interested in how you drew these conclusions.

 

[khalil1986]

Brendon "Agressive" McCullum losing the plot with field settings.

There isn't any middle ground with this guy.